#Thule!alec

[witchlingcirce]

Uhm thinking massive thoughts about how one of the few times Janus ever thought to himself while controlled by Sebastian is when he kicked Alec’s dead body where his parabatai rune would’ve been

[sielaltruist]

Alec.....

What could he do? Should have been a rock star Alec now has everything he dreamt of, at the age of 23, after fighting so much for his love. Someone whose childhood should've been easy-going and fun, it was full of responsibility, fear, and anguish. But, now, Alec loves his life. But he didn't have the money for a guitar Thule Alec, on the other hand, didn't experience any such thing as what could he have called a luxury at that dire time. He was filled with despair and held onto his love in his last seconds on that forsaken land.

What could he do? Should have been a politician Alec became the Consul at the age of 23, inspired many shadowhunters, and changed the world. Loved by mostly everyone in the shadow world. But he never had a proper education Thule Alec, who is full of innocence, knows about the depths of shadowhunters bigotry but only ever could dream about changing the world and could never make it his reality.

What could he do? Should have been a father Alec enjoying with his kids and being the best kind of father one can have. But he never even made it to his twenties Thule Alec not experiencing any of this joy and leaving the world at the age of 18.

What a waste, army dreamers Oh, what a waste of army dreamers

Alexander and Thule! Alexander.

Lyrics from: Army Dreamers by Kate Bush.

[fairdale]

wanna know what stuck with me more than janus wanting clary back? the fact that he wanted alec just as much. in every universe, doesn't matter if he's the good hearted jace we know or if he's dark or if he's evil, his heart knows alec is his parabatai. we should talk more about these two

[carelessflower]

in alternate reality when magnus did take the third thorn and turn into sammael minion in the lost book of the white, what's the team you think can take him down, especially with the additional power of the thorn and magnus not holding back? i honestly think ragnor, catarina and tessa team up can do it

[cinnamon-lotus]

Guys, I love Jace. But can we think for a minute in THule-Jace? Like I adore Jace soooo much, all his version.

I need to see Thule-Jace (even if I don't want him to win) flirt the shit out of Clary and hmgoing with badd boy vibe.

Like this man might have been isolated with the rat of Sebastian all that time and still his priorities are CLARY. He used Ash as money change to have Clary.

Like, we are going to see a morally gray Jace with his morals off and with an only objective that he knows he needs even more than exists. Having Clary to himself.

[tu-vieja-steve]

I am soooo excited for thule!simon because

1. he is still a vampire and I hope he appears with thule!raphael or thule!camille

2. he has lost everything, his clary, his mundane family...

3. He told Janus “I’ll kill you jace herondale” before his disappearance AAAAAAAA

I hope that thule!simon and janus can make peace and console each other and that they end up together so jimon finally becomes canon

[the-rebels-and-the-saints]

Best Ways to Kill TSC Fans

I hope the first chapter of TWP doesn't get posted on Tumblr.

I hope none of the Better In Black stories features the couple you want.

TWP probably won't even come out in 2025.

Jessa will probably die off in TWP.

CC will probably kill off Alec in BBoTD.

Ty is going to suffer throughout TWP.

He may finally have to let Livvy go.

Kit and Ty are going to have agonizing miscommunication in TWP.

Kit and Simon from Thule may be alive.

Dru is going to suffer from trauma!

Janus is probably going to meet the rest of the TMI characters.

Ash is going to be on the villain's side at first.

[dayque]

Simon killing Thule Sebastian for save Jace and build a "new world" together live rent free in my head

[the-best-of-the-myrmidona]

every time I read about Alec Lightwood of Thule, I want to laugh and cry at the same time because I've gotten so used to strong confident Alec that I forget about the Alec who was so scared of his sexuality that he attacked Clary when she brought it up. I forgot that Magnus called him a "heartbreaker who wears his heart on his sleeve".

And then I read how Thule Alec dies still afraid to be in love and how he died holding onto Magnus and my eyes start sweating.

[blue-silver-hammer]

I think what you said about the last king of faerie referring to the unseelie king is very interesting and just might be possible thought I’m unsure as to how Thule will come back into the story other than the fact that Janus is from there. Based on Janus seeking out Clary I can’t see him going back and forth between the two dimensions so maybe instead of them going to Thule, Thule!Simon comes to the regular dimension seeking Janus as he promised to kill him. However, now that I am thinking about it more Janus did promise Lily in Forever Fall that he would reunite her with Raphael so there has to be a way to Thule.

As for Dru going to Faerie to seek out Jaime I think that is the only thing that makes sense but I don’t think Jaime being missing is what the Clave is going to be so desperate to solve as he has been missing for over a year by that point. Even though Jaime is related to Diego I can’t see him being missing so important that all of the Clave-in-exile will be trying to solve but he is important to Dru that she’d want to go find him especially if she feels like nothing is being done to find him.

Based on the prologue we have I think that the wild fae, Mother Hawthorn specifically, are going to play an important role going forward especially since we don’t know what Mother Hawthorn told Kit in SoBH.

I know everyone thinks that the mysterious disappearance that Kit and Ty are going to solve is about Livvy as Kit is the only one that Ty thinks can help him but I don’t see how Livvy can go missing and not have Ty be incapacitated even with the necklace given to him by Magnus lessening the effects of the necromantic bond between them. It also doesn’t make sense as Cassie said everyone is trying to solve it. At that point in the story the only ones that know about Ty raising Livvy are Kit, Dru, Magnus, and most likely Ragnor though I don’t think it has been officially confirmed that Ragnor knows that Ty went through with the ritual after he refused to give Ty the catalyst after they had gathered the ingredients needed for the spell. However, they do seem to be good friends as they got along well in SoBH. Based on those two things it can’t be Livvy even if it seems like the most likely scenario.

Overall there is only one character I can think of that is important enough to cause that kind of reaction and that is Clary.

While I am not sure how likely this theory is I can see it going something like this:

Dru goes to Pandemonium to see Simon’s band perform with Thais and the TMI crew. Like usual, Alec and Clary leave to go get tacos and Lily comes and distracts Alec while Janus approaches Clary and kidnaps her. As this is from Dru’s POV she is unaware of this happening and so returns to academy clueless and gets in trouble with Luke (based on the snippet we have) as she left the academy without permission. Later it will be revealed that Clary is missing prompting a wide spread effort to find her which upsets Dru as she feels like Jaime is being cast aside and so she goes to find him herself while everyone else looks for Clary. It will also give her the chance to find out why she has lost three days of time.

The only part I struggle with in regards to this theory is Ty and Kit’s plot line. I can see Ty being given a mission to find her as a centurion and he goes to Kit because he it gives him an excuse to seek him out and he might have some idea of his fae heritage as it is possible that he saw Kit vanish the riders and that there is information in the schoolmates about the First Heir as Auraline was born before the scholomance closed as part of the first accord signings. With Janus’ connection to the fae having someone of that heritage could help him out in his search. Their road trip could be them going to places Janus has been trying to find where he has hidden Clary. Ash has hinted in SoBH that Janus has been planning something that seems to go beyond just making Clary his as he mentions the fall of the nephilim and that they — the shadowhunters— don’t know that they are doomed.

Based on what we know of the Seelie Queen, I can see her making an alliance with the Princes of Hell as she believes that there is no way the shadowhunter can win against them and she always wants to be on the winning side. With Janus being somewhat loyal to the Court through Ash he would be involved in that plot as well. Maybe Janus is trying to find Lucifer which goes well with the tile of the second book being the Last Prince of Hell as Lucifer is the only one that hasn’t made a previous appearance.

This could be how Dru plot line and Ty and Kit’s plot line converge as Ash is going to pull Dru into the matters of faerie and Ty and Kit learn that the Princes of Hell are making their move. They both can wind up in faerie and the book ends with agreeing to go with mother Hawthorn to train more in his powers so he stands a chance fighting against the princes of Hell.

The blackthorn sword being reforged can also be included in this part as it was a blade originally forged by Wayland the Smith giving it similar properties (an angel wing in the hilt) of Cortana.

Once the blade is reforged it will most likely be wielding by Dru or Ty. It is most likely Dru as the main female character but as the flower book mentions that her signature weapon is Livvy’s saber it might actually be Ty as Jesse was the last one to wield the sword and Ty has been compared a lot to Jesse so it might be him instead. Either one of them would work as both have an equal claim to the sword as Blackthorns.

I think at the time of Cassie writing TMI that it was supposed to be Jace and Sebastian but Ash and Kit fit the description as well that she could easily have it be referring to them instead.

I have just had thoughts.

We know that Thule will obviously feature again in The Wicked Powers. CC has said that the location of the black volume of the dead, as well as what happened to thule!simon, will be addressed. What i just realized after rereading TDA for the tenth time is that almost all the clues given so far relate to Thule.

The last king of Faerie? In Thule the Unseelie King united the courts and is currently ruling over them with Erec as his heir. And Julian told Thule!Livvy his true name before leaving. And Thule!Liivvy is around seventeen or eighteen, which is the age Kit and Ty will be in TWP. I cant help but assume that Kit and Ty will encounter Thule!Livvy at some point because they're around the same age- maybe by Kit and Ty somehow ending up in Thule!Faerie?

Also, Thule!Mark is missing and we can assume he's with the Wild Hunt in Faerie, which does not have the blight as the mortal world in Thule, meaning there's a strong chance that he and Janus (due to his extra angel blood) are literally the only two candidates for still retaining their Shadowhunter powers, which may tie in to the third book's title- The Last Shadowhunter. And obviously the second book is related to the epilogue of the Lost Book of the White, and the events of the Black Volume of the Dead.

Besides, the problem that Dru goes to Faerie for at the start of TLKoF? I bet it's Jaime being missing. CC said everyone's looking for a solution to the problem, so either everyone at this point knows about the missing Jaime and can't trace him in Faerie (because Kieran would know where he is on Unseelie lands), or it's another demonic problem. I bet the separate problem Kit and Ty are having is related to Livvy's ghost.

Also, remember the dreams Clary had in the early mortal instruments? Of her seeing Jace and Sebastian circle each other, Jace with white wings and Sebastian with black wings? Well, that didn't happen, but there IS someone who looks like Sebastian and has black wings- Ash. And conversely there IS someone who looks like Jace, too- Kit. Who hasn't sprouted white wings yet, but has fey heritage just like Ash. They're technically related, even- the Seelie Queen is Kit's great great great whatever grandmother, so they even partly trace the same lineage. Somehow I think the prophetic dreams Clary had were not of Jace and Sebastian, but Kit and Ash.

All this to say i have no idea how I'm going to wait 1.5 more years for TLKoF. Istg I'll have finished a PhD by the time this series finally ends

[sielaltruist]

“Stop telling me to let you go,” said Alec. “I will never listen. I want to be with you. I never wanted anything more in my life. If you fall, I want to fall with you.”

Alec in The Red Scrolls Of Magic

Alec looked stricken. “We’ll die together,” he said. “Let me stay at least, with you.” “You have to go back. You have to go back to the world.” “I don’t want the world. I want you,” Alec said, and Magnus closed his eyes, as if the words almost hurt.

Alec in The City of Heavenly Fire

Before Shinyun could act, though, Alec was moving. He was reaching out, and he was wrapping his hand around the blade of the Svefnthorn, and he was grimacing with effort and resolve, and he was thrusting the Svefnthorn into his own chest, piercing his own heart. From where he knelt, Magnus could see the thorn run all the way through him, emerge through his back, and remain there. Alec’s eyes were still open, still wide, still staring right at Magnus.

Alec in The Lost Book Of The White

Bonus:

“Magnus Bane was one of the first great tragedies,” said Livvy as if she were reciting an old story everyone knew. “Bane realized he was turning into a demon. He begged his boyfriend, Alexander Lightwood, to kill him. Alec did, and then turned the sword on himself. Their bodies were found together in the ruins of New York.”

Alec in Thule (Queen of Air and Darkness)

These parallels are truly heartbreaking.

[kthfairchild]

I saw a Reddit post that said that we really don't know Magnus' birth name and all I could think of is -why do you want to know his birth name?-

We already know so much about Magnus that makes him *him*.

We know that he was taught everything about being a warlock by ragnor fell

We know that he spent most of his teenage years with the silent brothers

We know that he saved Catarina from being burned at the stake

We know that he helped Will partly because he felt guilty for not helping his father

We know that he helped Jocelyn despite hating everything that valentine had done to downworlders

We know that he takes pride in watching Clary grow up

We know that he cares so much about Raphael

We know that he loved Camille despite everything she did

We know that he had even considered giving up his immortality to live and grow old with Alec

We know that he helped the tmi gang for free because he was fond of them and he loved Alec.

We know Thule Magnus would rather die than turn into a demon.

We know that Magnus was ready to help Simon grieve his friends once they grew old and died.

We know that Magnus was the shoulder that Tessa cried on when Will died, and he will do it again when Jem dies.

We know that Magnus was willing to do anything just for Julian and Emma to be together

We already know Magnus inside and out, knowing the name given to him by the person who makes both his fondest and his most painful memories won't change anything.

[carelessflower]

TLH or TID

havent read TLH so TID

[cinnamon-lotus]

U know, with all this plot lines we want Cassie to follow. All the lore we want her to give us, she could do a fucking 6 books like in the mortal instruments.

Like we have the reunite of tid apparently, clary dreaming again, one of tmi dying (if not more), fucking Janus, we want to see a little of Emma and Julian in love, flashbacks of Diana in Bangkok, Diana and Gwyn, Kit and ty falling in love, Kit hiding from faeries, Evil-Ty, ghost-Livvy, Dru terrorising Ash, Ash being a spy, Seelie Queen dying and name reveal, Kieran living with Mark and Cristina, (did the uncle of Julian died? If not, someone cured him please. Or kill him. Like let him rest), TJem and Tessa hea, more Anush content, Jaime hello?, The riders of Mannan, ZARA DEARBON DYING, the Cohort punished and in jail, the inquisitor alive 😶‍🌫️, Tavvy oh tavvy ALIVE AND HAPPY, conquering Alacante, AND MOTHERFUCKER THULE. LIKE THULE.

Livvy Thule coming back to live with their Alive-family, thule-kit, Mark from thule also¿?, ty thule.

JUST THULE. GIVE ME EVERYTHING

And for the love of Raziel, Cassie, give the Circle fans here some backstories so they can rest in peace.

Say what more u think should be included and I forgot.

[helenofblackthorns]

going to say something controversial but I actually do believe Cassandra Clare when she says killing a Lightwood every series is unintentional. it's one of the Big Things people talk about when discussing who could die because a Lightwood has to die every series but I don't think that's something she necessarily thinks about?? like she's right, there's just A Lot of them in every series it makes sense it's always them when it comes to killing characters off. especially when other families like the Herondales/Fairchilds/Carstairs are endangered species in one or both of the eras and even then they get close to 4/4 (except for the Fairchilds?? I feel it's just Sebastian for them lol)

anyway the biggest sign to me this is all blown out of proportion and shouldn't be the end all of our theories is that you could say the exact same thing about the Blackthorns, just no one ever does. they also die every single series! Andrew in TMI, Rupert in TID, Arthur Livvy & Annabel in TDA and Tatiana in TLH. As for TWP, most of the remaining Blackthorns have plot armour at this point like who could she even kill? Tavvy? that's not a death that she can write lightly, and if she did go that route it would be extremely difficult to do so with rehashing a lot of stuff from Livvy's death. Plus hes the baby of the family like... thule!Ty died trying to save him even though it was impossible

anyway the thing is now is she knows about the "Lightwoods always die" thing because people love talking about it. so if a Lightwood dies in TWP it's because Cassandra Clare knows & thought it would be funny as far as I'm concerned 😭 literally painted that target on Maryse's (or Jace's or Izzy's..... i highly doubt it's Alec lol) forehead ourselves.

[witchlingcirce]

I really do hope we see Thule!Simon at least some point in TWP because I actually think he’s potential be a really interesting character.

Like I really wanna know the context of Simon saying “I’ll kill you Jace herondale”. I don’t know if “context” is the right word but like, I wanna know what the situation was. Like was it just after Clary died? Or was it something else?? Another battle???

I’m also curious to know the guilt he feels about clary dying, it obviously isn’t his fault BUT it was Simon who gave Clary glorious and is probably the reason that she even got to confront Lilith. I think it would be an interesting difference in the book- the last time Lilith had tried to kill Clary, Simon had the mark of Cain to protect him and clary- while this time he couldn’t.

I ALSO WANT TO KNOW HIS REACTION TO IZZY’s DEATH l!!!

Also, I’m so curious about what point did he go missing?? Like was it right after Clary’s death, or a little later?? Unless the book mentioned this and I completely forgot. But I’m so curious, and I mean I think the book does insinuate he’s alive- since Thule!Maia has a tattoo for Alec, Magnus & Clary- and I’d argue that at that point in time Maia was probably closest to Simon in the group.