#and like. thats fine but when the story has like. actual interesting bits ... should prob include those in the ads...

[xxplastic-cubexx]

I was extremely skeptical going into rogue the savage land bc 1) Rogue objectification and 2) Rogneto but I actually thought issue 1 was alright! Not my favorite thing ever but way better than I was expecting (the bar was so low though). There wasn't romance (there was kind of one panel of ~eye contact~ but that's it) and despite the covers, it wasn't just Rogue tits & ass shots the entire issue. We'll see how it goes from here but I'm encouraged by Seeley saying he wasn't interested in their romance. The marketing around the entire series has been nothing but "ooooh half naked Rogue" and "ooooh Rogue and Magneto steamy jungle romance" but the actual content inside was decent and had some good character depth.

ill NEVER be a fan of the savage lands outfit in general i think that'll always leave a bitter taste in my mouth BUT NO YEAH when i skimmed it in the shop i was actually interested ..... the advertising team for this issue really were prioritizing the wrong things 💀

[misterbitches]

Dude yong jie’s character is literally unbearable this is like how not to write a vharacter 101

Our first intro to him is stalking, then PUNCHING someone in the LIVER bc the person he “loves” was fucking drunk and he blames his best friend? Then his mom is like “lmao actually um hes psycho” so anything they try to do retroactively like how they peppered in HIS DAD DIED A BLOO BLOO but previously it was also his OWN MOM going “im afraid he’ll lose his humanity” so not only was there no breathing room then it’s bumrushing him into their lives as best friends and it doesnt work. This dude sucks and he isnt even fun to watch. You know how breaking bad has one of the most abysmal main characters of all time but all of us were fucking ENGROSSED but the show made it clear that every enemy he faces, even the DEA, we want THEM to win (it is also a class analysis but woreva) so i am like wtf they show us literally nothing here. He’s just there. Wasting space and being awful. What is the purpose of his character in ssu’s life? Once you rape someone it is fucking over full stop but he didnt even fucking manage to start off in any compelling fucking way. Absolutely bonkers dude Esp bc theres at least a base moral code ie DONT HARRASS GIRLS UR “INTO” and thats why mei fang the absolute mad lad beaut was like “lmao nah i hate u”

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?????????????????????????????????? WHERE IS THE WRITING HERE? WHAT IS THE SCRIPT? awhat is the PROGRESSION? This is such an insanely fucking dumb plo5 point i rly cannnnjnnntoeiwijshsgsgsgsgsgsgeggwiwowiw GORL

Lets talk abt the good things in the characters (theres none for yong jie hes just there being a little bitch)

Li cheng - himbo dumbass “manly” cutie and the manly stuff is fun cos it gets heaped on and yet every bit of him can be extremely “feminine” and jubilant. Great.

Muren - seems >:O but i rly like that hes actually pretty open in his own way. Side note: he is so thin and willow-y i rly loke tall pretty boys (and all women lmao) and he doesnt do it for me but He suits the character like his body and the way his character is. Also u gotta be weird and he is

Hsinng ssu (girl im never gonna learn how to spell their names it’s too much work cos the eng alphabet andnromanization is terrible) - mild mannered, good son, a homosexual confirmed confirmed g”(awesome!) great friend, good brother (and i guess his reward is being raped, great message!) and someone ppl like

The establishment of the three of them and their distinct personalities happens within minutes and then we meet

Yongjie - what about him? He may have an MI, okay, but we dont know for sure and oh gee that doesnt matter actually bc u have to get urself treated and also not be terrible. Not even psychopaths do the shit he does BC THEY HAVE TO GET HELP. Why the parents didnt get him help and are just realizing their son is terrible? Who knows . His purpose seems yo be “boy obsessed with brother like his actual brother” i dont care id they arent related in that way bc that’s not the fucking crux of incest and it is so insanely Fucked every thing to do with incest is almost always a disgusting powe r issue. WHAT PURPOSE DOES HE SERVE? WHAT DO WE ONOW ABOUT HIM OTHER THAN HE IS A FUCKING JERK AND AN IDIOT AND SUCKS AND I HATE HIM AND THAT HE WANTS TO STALK AND ATTACK THIS REALLY AWESOME FUCKING DUDE OK

There’s no returning point deom rhe line they croased byt theyb set him up for failure. Even in the fight hes a fucking cheater hes a goddamn immature rat they know he fucking sucks but he just sits there and waits for everyone else to move around him. A fucking selfish prick with nor edeeming qualities snd hes also a violent rapist stalker. Really great that thry have no clue how to make this dude actually have any humanity or likeability. Hes the man from 365 days basically except not even that hot and at least he kidnapped her but “WAITED” for “CONSENT” but in that movie’s world nothing mattered and it was bad and the point was to have a horny movie. But this show is for younger ppl and also IT HAS RULES AND IT KNOWS WHAT BAD ACTIONS ARE???? Soooooooooooooo in all these other dumb salacious books there seems to be just a mutual agreement that it’s fucked up but totally normal i their movie’s universee (it isnt and it is still just bad filmmaking)

Also it is up to yong jie to figure put how to get over it and understand that his brother is concerned for him. Bc it is. His brother. There’s a reason that incest is never advisable and thays bc there is no way in that situation that people aren’t somehow being coerced. There has to be a sort of split in the pursuer and the person being pursued bc one person is not thinking that way. (This is why people who find out they are related after the fact and havent grown up together is something thatms really unfortunate. They had no idea and they have to grapple with that but that is another scenario and it happens bc THEY DIDNT GROW UP TOGETHER.) i have experienced this from a (not immediate) fam member and i was the vulnerable one, had less powr, that is how it must go.

Thats why the power imbalance is scary and none of this is acceptable but it begs the question how did they get to this point? But the show doesnt even address that bc they cant bc theyre not original. And power imbalance does not mean automatic absolutely not territory. Theres things we dont like (in my casee i hate age gaps a lot) but i will avoid that.

I havemt seen “right or wrong” and i have no desire but from what ive garnered from ppl i like who liked that episode, the show outlined the moral issues with it. Idk if they did it in a way i would have preferred (again no desire) but at lesst from what ive heard it...tries? Idk i dont see the need for these if they dont give us a reason why these ppl should be together and there’s several lines that cannot be crossed that were. Basically it’s like stockholm syndrome now and there’s no choice for him, it goes beyond power imbalance and “legality” so to speak and now it’s just entrapment.

Theres not even avoiding or enjoying. Even for MODC as stupid as i found the secondary rship and negligent even like ok. Fine. Whatever. His boyfriend is 100 but at least it was semi agreed upon. It is what it is, go forth. I will criticize it but at least it was the story and as stupid and gross as i think it is and they will probs break up (idc what the show says) at least there are set ups that can make us see “why” it works and oh, gee, their whole rship relies on a different fucked up but at least at some point it could possibly be transcended. The foundation of youngjie is “rape entrapment and aw now they are in lvoe” BITCH NOOOO???? Where is the REASON? And why should we root for them? (There is none and when the Thing happens it is now impossible for that not to be absolutely foundational to their rship lmao and that is never something that goes away.)

I would like to say theres nothing romantic int he flashbacks i know thats what theyre trying to twll us but the actor is 30 and that child is like 8.

Im not missing the point bc i see it with my eyes and it sucks. If you cant even write the character well then how do you interest something heavy and work out the links? The only solution is yongjie dying i mean fucking off forever and hsing ssu not letting him into his lifeXni doubt we will get that but at the very least they cannot end up together and that will be their crowning fucking achievement over the waste of time bullshit plot this was. Imagine actual conflict that wasnt so deeply fucking traumatic and, oh, again WHERE ARE THE PARENTS? They fucked up SO FUCKING BADLY. This gives people the wrong idea about how these things work. God he is truly a shitty character and his ass isnt even fat so wtf bitch why am i here!

[danisnotofire]

How did you plan out the plot for the Spiderman!Jeremy fic, like chapter-by-chapter, or story arc? The writing is so good and I must know your writer secrets!

and tdfhgskjsljgf first off, thank you! this answer is super long and a lot more than u asked for but lmao here u go (imma put it under a read more just bc its probs longer than what u were expecting. really. it’s so long and Extra ghfjdkfhg)  

nsm is the longest thing i have EVER WRITTEN, so i’ve been having to deal with a lot of things that come with that (like plot continuity??? consistent characterization??? chekov’s gun?? kinda major plot-points mentioned for half a second and then i forgot to include later on that i now gotta figure out how to make relevant again??? making each character dynamic and their own person with their own habits/way of speaking/etc?? also, on a related note, including multiple characters in a broad range of scenes?? and so much more omg) but yeah, it’s A Lot and it’s all stuff i’ve never had to deal with before!!! 

before this, the longest thing i’d ever written was 50,000 words, which i’d done twice as apart of nanowrimo, but i never actually finished the works to a point that i was satisfied with lol i just kinda threw down 50k and was like I’M DONE IM NEVER OPENING THIS GOOGLE DOC EVER AGAIN EVEN IF IT MEANS SITTING UNFINISHED FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY

with nsm, i figured out around chapter 4 or 5 that i should actually start planning where i wanted this to go, bc originally i only wrote the first chapter and then i was like ‘huh okay maybe if people are interested i’ll get this done in another freakishly long chapter or a few short chapters or w/e’. so i started messaging debi (@debusya ) about things like ‘okay how are we eventually gonna take down the squip? how do i want the reveal to go?? how do i get this oddly specific scene that isn’t relevant but i really really want to include to fit?? and debi (t god for debi) read every chapter and every 238597239857-message (like double message except there was 2348327429837 of them in a row) of me freakin out and helped me work through it

it was a lot of me floundering around and every time i sat down to write the next chapter i was like ‘FUCK I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THIS IS GOING I FEEL LIKE I BARELY HAVE A HANDHOLD ON THIS FIC AND SOON ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE GONNA START NOTICING AND STOP READING AND CALL ME A FRAUD’ 

so then when i was writing chapter 9, i paused for a minute and actually outlined every chapter with plot points and certain bits of dialogue and where it was gonna end. and i was like YES OK FINALLY SOMETHING MAKES SENSE 

and then when i was writing chapter 10/11 i completely fucking threw most of it out the window. (originally, chapter 11 took place in jeremy’s room and it was just him moping and then christine was gonna burst in and put him in his place. i had also planned originally for jeremy and michael’s Big Adult Conversation to take place in the middle of the street as michael was trying to leave for school, and and michael got a lot angrier a lot quicker) but i kinda realized as i was writing the actual chapter that a) i wanted jeremy to be Super Guilty About The Bus and go way harder than he should trying to make up for it, and b) that wasn’t really what michael would do lol considering how he reacted in the musical although to be honest c) i could still easily have gone with that route and been fine with it which leads me to d) this fic is still mostly me just screaming into google docs like ‘FUCK I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THIS IS GOING I FEEL LIKE I BARELY HAVE A HANDHOLD ON THIS FIC ETC ETC’) 

so now i have this literal actual fucking 13 page outline of this fic sitting in google docs that i’ve mostly ended up ignoring. it’s still good to have it tho because i’m still sticking to it KIND OF in the sense it’s helping/has helped me figure out things like ‘where is this scene gonna take place’ ‘when am i gonna remind people about a certain plot point that i haven’t mentioned in a few chapters’ ‘okay lets bring back this certain part of jeremy’s life bc he’s got a lot going on and i’ve gotta try and make them all seem equally relevant bc they are (aka his Fighting Crime vs High School vs Home Life vs Whatever Else Problem of The Week)’ 

but i have drastically changed the way things like  ‘what’s gonna happen to the squip’ and ‘what’s gonna happen with jenna (yes she’s coming back)’ and ‘how this whole thing is gonna actually end’

i REALLY didn’t expect it to turn into this monster 60k+ thing. and honestly to me it feels like a Mess thats held together through sheer force of will and duct tape and super glue that i’m slowly trying to turn into something coherent but i know most of how messy it seems is in my own head, so every time people comment or kudos or w/e i get SUPER HAPPY bc it makes me feel so much better about this whole thing!! so again, thank u for ur kind words <33

but yeah, there are still a few things i’ve KINDA figured out but need to mention a few times more before i close the plot line bc i realized i only included them like once or twice and i’m like ‘yikes that’s too important to only be mentioned once!’

tl;dr: i had a 13 page outline that i’ve mostly scrapped and so i plan mostly by screaming to debi over facebook while she calls me out on my shitty ideas until i come up with something decent

this answer was SO MUCH LONGER than what u probably wanted but im a pretentious douchebag who loves talking about writing and The Process, and also its really important to me that people know that writing is really fuckin hard bc whenever people come to me like ‘ugh i wish i could write as well as u’ i FLIP bc i never want to be one of those people who’s like, wrapped in silk with a fountain pen sipping champagne being like ‘ah yes writing is a gift the gods have granted me with i am just a slave to the muse’ bc that’s not true lol muse is 1% of this whole thing. the rest of it is crying into google docs, which is COMPLETELY. ATTAINABLE. 

that probs didn’t make any sense but uh here have an actual fucking essay on how i plan things and yeah!!! pls feel free to ask more questions like this if this answer didn’t completely scare u off lolol i love going in depth about things i feel like nobody cares about <33333