#and rise raph. OH RISE RAPH I COULD WRITE ESSAYS

[angelmichelangelo]

took a hit of my cold medicine and now i’m thinking hard about how 2012 splinter and rise splinter have such similar traumas that they accidentally pass along to their eldest sons in different ways.

2012 leo feels expected of things by his father because of what splinter lets him in on about his past. rise raph feels that same urgency but from what splinter keeps from him. it’s such good story telling to say that both versions of the characters are pretty much doomed no matter how they approach it with their kids because at the end of the day, that trauma is always going to fall on their shoulders whether they intend for it or not. bottling it up or sharing it basically yields the same results and that’s just the Big Brother Ninja Turtle Curse for poor leo and raph in this instance.

it’s why i don’t really gel with splinter being a rat first in certain iterations because it draws so much away from his character in that sense because both 2012 + rise splinter have SO much to unpack and it makes them so much more of an interesting character than just a rat that got mutated by chance.

both kids love their dads. both kids want to do right by him and both of them feel so much pressure no matter how their dad tries to undo the generational hurt by either sharing it or shielding them from it… they’re fated to experience it either way.

[blue-lamento]

Sorry for the long wait, everyone! I had to ask my friend for a help with translation (/she actually helped me with everything ♥/).

Let the salt pour!

@vicholas, here we go again. I’m saying one thing, while you switch the topic and try to portray my opinion being as silly as the ‘He is not the leader anymore and I don’t like it!!!’ phrase.  But I wasn’t talking about that. Do I really have to write a huge essay on why Ant’s opinion is problematic? I mean, I even highlighted the quote I had issues with and you still don’t get it. Ant specifically said that Leo’s fans love him only because he IS the leader and nothing more. It’s wrong and stupid. It’s as if Donnie’s fans love him because he is genius, Mikey’s fans love him because he is funny and Raph’s fans love him because he is a hothead. Of course, there are people with this sort of view, but it’s not exactly Leo’s or any other character’s fault and I’m sure if you go around and ask people why they love a certain character they will definitely describe more than one trait for you.

Oh, and one more thing: rotTMNT does make me cry… from laughing at their low ratings and let’s not forget about how their toys are badly sold, because that’s a whole comedy tour.

Nothing personal.

 @ankle-beez, ‘many old fans’ and who would that be exactly? You mean those old fans who help keep the show’s rating as low as it was during the airing of the fifth season of 2012 TMNT? Do you really think that the people of tumblr and twitter represent the fanbase as a whole? Spoiler: not really.

‘Not making Leo the leader this time is one of the best changes rise made’? Yeah, right, only because you didn’t like the old versions of Leo lmao. But you know, if I was one of those fans of the new show, whose reply to any criticism and ‘I don’t really like this and that’ would be ‘FUCK YOU YOU’RE JUST A HATER’, I would say something silly too.

‘Wait nvm you like tcest your opinion sucks even more now’ – yet you decided to write the post anyway. As if you didn’t know what else to say, so you decided to simply insult me. Not really clever, but childish for sure. Good job lmao.

If only you have noticed the theme of my blog before writing to me, riiiight?

And again, you, like vicholas, have changed the topic, so thank u next.

 @cretinodemilus, I’m sorry, but you didn’t get my point. Please stop telling me to ‘give it a chance’. Why did you assume I didn’t? Is it because I don’t like the show? Yes, I don’t like it and, as you said, it IS my right. I have watched tmnt2012 two times because I wanted understand for what exact reasons I disliked it.

Sadly, it’s okay to criticize old versions of Leo, but once we open our mouths about rotTMNT Leo we have a lynch party.

I hope that after reading my replies you will finally understand my point.

 @madigeezie, oh, I’m sorry, I don’t have any legal documents stating that my opinion is ‘invalid’, maybe you could find them for me, because I really need that guidance. Thank you.

 @bluetheanxiousdork, oh you know, it’s just that SOME people love Leo not only because he’s the leader. Pure and simple.

  @thekrabbykrust , go ahead and trash me as much as you want. I won’t be the second zamii ;)

 @kc-anathema, THANK YOU. You are the only person who understood the problem of the statement and didn’t start the ‘rotTMNT is great you are just a hater give it a chance pls’ nonsense.

BTW that paragraph about Raph is really good. I have seen similar opinions here, but since it’s dangerous to criticize rotTMNT here, the discussion usually didn’t go as far as it could. And while I strongly think that making Raph the leader was done simply for the sake of attention, it’s going to be really sad watching him lose his characterization just so it could be given to Leo.

And if you think about it, seeing how quickly the creators of rotTMNT said ‘don’t worry guys! Raph won’t lead for too long! Leo is going to take the lead!’ after the backlash makes me think that they… didn’t respect their own ideas or something? And on top of that this whole ‘Leo is going to be the leader later’ looks really insincere, because they were clearly forced to do it. It might sound weird, I won’t deny it, but that’s just how I feel.

@cesarin , yeah… no. Ant said what he said. Period.

They have said it before, so stop acting as if they meant something else.

"...out of the window is not OK." – nah, it’s fine. I wasn’t talking about the show itself, yet its fans thought that I did? Can’t relate. I have a full right to throw them out of the window, because they don’t even understand what I am talking about.

 @j-penny, oh wow. He is the least explored character? Wow. I thought that ankle-beez’s reply was funny, but yours is hysterical.

I would love to prove you wrong just by analyzing 2003 cartoon… actually, this is exactly what I’m going to do. Don’t worry, I will make sure you won’t miss it.

[angelmichelangelo]

Hey you know would be fun? You could rank your favorite to least favorite iteration of each of the four boys. Btw sorry for all these asks lol

OH THAT WOULD BE FUN!! don’t be sorry i haven’t had asks in months so it’s all good friend! okay here we go:

starting with leo.

least favourite leo would for SURE be the bayverse version. now.. i am the Few that actually enjoys those movies (sue me, they came out when i was first getting into tmnt so they hold some nostalgia value) but ive mentioned before my gripe with bayverse!leo just because he’s so narrow minded and so set aside from mike, raph and don. it feels like he’s their awkward older cousin that lives with them rather than a brother. bayverse!leo get in the bin. michael bay, you can join him whilst he’s there, actually. why did you do my boy dirty like this, huh?

my favourite leo would be 2003! i just really enjoy his storylines! i like that he’s far from perfect! i think he’s well written and he is a good balance of all the ingredients that make leo Leo!! plus leosagi <33333

now raphael.

least favourite version of raph would be.. rise? this is hard because like i said in my last ask, i genuinely enjoy all versions of raph! i’m just gonna say raph just because i like it when he has his typical anger issues. UGH but it’s so hard because he’s so Eldest Daughter in rise. it’s official: i do not have a least favourite raph. it is simply impossible. even bayverse!raph is good lol

favourite raph is easily 2012. sean austin the man that you are, that is MY raphael. as an anger issues girlie i just relate to this raph. he loves his brothers and i will die on the hill that is defending him with every breath i have. we love 2012 in this house and we love 2012 raph even more.

donnie’s turn!!

gonna be super duper controversial with this one so im putting on bubble wrap to protect myself but least favourite donnie is… rise. oops. HEAR ME OUT!! i am totally fine with others liking rise don. i get the appeal. but my heart will forever love gentle, soft, sweet donnie, and whilst the change up in rise is COOL as hell, i just can’t with the sarccy, cold, snarky version of him. (plus i have a LOOOOT to say about ahem. certain stereotypes when it comes to writers creating canonically autistic characters but that’s another rant for another time) ONCE AGAIN!! i still enjoy his character!! but i just don’t find him to be my favourite.. okay swiftly moving on lol

favourite donnie is EAAAASSILY 2007 don. he’s basically a side character in that movie alongside mike but BOY OH BOY he’s just so fantastic. he’s so fun. i could write essays about how he held that stupid family together. give him a medal. give him the moon idc he deserves it. 2007 is a winner

and now for my golden boy, michelangelo

least favourite mikey? im probably gonna go with mutant mayhem???? again, i enjoyed his character and i think his va was like perfect! but he was pretty underutilised in that movie and im really desperately hoping that he’s bumped up from background comic relief to something more in the show and sequel. he’s only on the bottom of the list because he didn’t really do much in the movie except nearly die lol rip

favourite mikey? idw. bodies all the rest of the turtles in every iteration. idw mikey is funny, clever, smart, has great storylines plus we get my meat and potatoes woodyangelo. that’s all i really ever need lol. plus idw mikey checks splinter and that’s like. the best. put that rat DOWN mike !!!