#and while powerful shouldn't be unmanageable

[allurasgrace]

Little did I realise Mythic Destinies was a pipeline to Free Archetype and Dual-Class characters

[sparkbeast20]

Some of these are incorrect, theories at best or never mentioned in main story/events.

Death does not exist in Paradise Lost, because of Gamigin.

We don't know that he can completely revive devils, cause he would have revived canon dead characters like Andrealphus brother, and in the two star events, he said it himself that-

There is a limit to his ability, and just because he can revive Morax, Marbas, and Buer. That doesn't mean he can do it all the time. There is a limit.

Solomon also had to drink human semen to stay in hell.

Actually...

He doesn't stay in hell, he can go back and forth from hell and earth.

Demons are infertile. Except for kings, because they have enough power not to use Lilith.

Devils are fertile, they just can't do it with other devils, they can have sex and have children with other species like humans

Also, technically Lilith isn't a devil, they refer to her as a 'Archfield'

All six deadly sins are needed to defeat Lucifer.

Not defeat, but fight and this is a theory at best cause who knows if the kings can survive when Lucifer can kill them with one command.

Demons and Angels can change shape. It influence their emotions.

Its more on changing forms, not shape (this is more vague). And so far, only Satan, Beelzebub, Naberius, Stolas, and Amon has showed that they can shifts form either demonic form or animal.

The only devil that can change someone else's form is a Noble that we haven't meant yet, Ose

And with the angels, they are more on disguising themselves (Seen in Beelzebub's event, and Orias event)

Bael tries to be a copy of Beel. He must follow the shape-shifting, from hair dyeing to limb mutilation, because he made a deal.

This is a misinterpretation from Bael's comic. And there is no mention of deal with Beelzebub or anyone about this.

Minhyeok is no longer human. Due to Mc's deal with Satan, nothing can kill him while it is in effect.

Technically, he can die. The only thing that can't kill him is Gabriel's scythe. Minhyeok can still be killed other ways.

Bael's comic. He almost died for impersonating Beel. Still can't explain what happened.

We still don't know what happened in that comic, we are missing context.

Its too vague to assume that he almost died from impersonating Beelzebub.

In hell, crimes of all kinds can be committed, without being punished. This also applies in heaven.

There are rules in hell and heaven. In heaven is more like Heaven has there own rules by the Seraphim and one example is Leamas/Samael who literally gotten punished by Gabriel.

Also, Hell isn't as lawless.

Abyssos has a nearly unmanageable crime rate, so it's only appears lawless. Hence Bael is buried in paper work.

Death lines. Canonically they die in battle.

This is just in-game system, again going back to the Gamigin one he has his limit, and Getting to Belial in Chapter 1, 2 and 3 wouldn't been important and his angst of killing his Subordinates shouldn't been a issue (Though, I would make a post about Gamigin or other healers can't save victims of angelification)

The Glasyalabolas Philia.

Okay, so Michael, Ronove, and Dantalian doesn't count? Also, people please understand not all kinks and Philias are the fucking the same!! (Looking at the uproar of Buer, Orias and Naberius's philias)

The real Gamigin committed suicide.

Sacrificing is different from Suicide, he didn't out of selfishness, but in order to save Dragon!Gamigin.

Ronove is going to take the fingers from Mc's corpse.

Ronove would much prefer MC's whole body

In more line that Ronove is like a twisted lover where he will preserve MC's body.

Also...

Leviathan was going to end Solomon's lineage.

There is no mention of Leviathan killing off Solomon's lineage. He was going to kill MC because they are a threat to hell. And not because of Solomon's lineage.

Satan has anger problems that can kill Mc/Mammon and Valefor could kill Mc by accident if they apply the wrong force/Mc has a high probability of dying if ignores where may or not be in Paradise Lost. This implies that Lucifer can kill anyone with just a voice command.

Technically, all of them can kill MC. However they know and won't hurt MC like that.

Andre's past. (He carried his twin's head for days.)

This is untrue, there is no mention of this happening at all. (Please prove evidences about this)

Going crazy to the point of carrying part of dead body isn't a necessary part of devastation.

And here's are some that can be speculated or theories, not canon yet

Bael's comic. He almost died for impersonating Beel. Still can't explain what happened.

Buer, Morax and Marbas have died hundreds of times.

Demons were the first to experiment with angels.

I might miss some things, but these are the ones that stood out.

Whb iceberg.

We start from curiosities, data that we can realize at first sight and descend to the murky ones. I clarify that I will also attach non-canon theories.

• In hell, a hundred years have passed since Solomon disappeared, while, on earth, since 931 BC.

• Not only Solomon, but also God and Lilith.

• Satan has a barcode on his arm, and sleep with his eyes open.

• Death does not exist in Paradise Lost, because of Gamigin.

• Beel left Abyssos since Solomon's disappearance.

• Orias will never stop consuming souls. Youth is never eternal, and by obtaining Levi's soul, it would only stop it for a while.

• Satan has confirmed that he has lost his home.

• Angels can also be humanized.

(Theory)

• Ark Academy and whb are connected.

• Solomon also had to drink human semen to stay in hell.

• Demons are infertile. Except for kings, because they have enough power not to use Lilith.

• All six deadly sins are needed to defeat Lucifer.

• Demons and angels can change shape. It influence their emotions.

• Bael tries to be a copy of Beel. He must follow the shape-shifting, from hair dyeing to limb mutilation, because he made a deal.

• Minhyeok is no longer human. Due to Mc's deal with Satan, nothing can kill him while it is in effect.

(Theory)

• Gamigin and Serenade will never see each other again. Since they reside in different realities.

(Theory)

• Beel wants to eat Mc.

(Theory)

• Morax's skill. Absorbs wounds, even if they are fatal.

• Beel has eaten angels.

• Solomon can possess the bodies where his soul resides.

• In hell, crimes of all kinds can be committed, without being punished. This also applies in heaven.

• Bael's comic. He almost died for impersonating Beel. Still can't explain what happened.

• Solomon has all the filias. Even the most questionable ones.

• Angels have orgies.

• Christmas cards. It's sexual abuse.

• Leviathan is the first, and the one who has forced Mc the most to have sex.

• Beel has died thousands of times because of angels.

• Death lines. Canonically they die in battle.

• The Glassyalabolas filia.

• Solomon knows what happened to Lilith and God.

• Fruit of the tree of knowledge.

• God and Lilith are dead.

(Theory)

• The real Gamigin committed suicide.

• Ronove is going to take the fingers from Mc's corpse.

• Leviathan was going to end Solomon's lineage.

• Kamikaze angels.

• Jjok was abandoned in the forest to die.

• Buer, Morax and Marbas have died hundreds of times.

• Satan has anger problems that can kill Mc.

• Mammon and Valefor could kill Mc by accident if they apply the wrong force.

• Angelification is so painful that it breaks a demon's mind.

• Mc has a high probability of dying if ignores where may or not be in Paradise Lost. This implies that Lucifer can kill anyone with just a voice command.

• Demons were the first to experiment with angels.

• The massacres of the angels. This includes the demonic, angelic race and the near extinction of dragons.

• Andre's past. (He carried his twin's head for days.)

• The archangels will never get the punishment they deserve.

• Leviathan and Orias' constant abuse on the farm.

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Does anyone else have any interesting or shady data?

It took me a day to gather information in my head, but that's it! I appreciate knowing that the shape-shifting is different, between angels, and Beel's camp.

Edit: Yeah, as soon as I realize my man is a walking red flag, it's confirmed that Levi baby never tries to have a forceful response from Mc, or tries to get her to ask him first.

[olreid]

something i read on a fic once and been thinking about.. is a ghost the opposite of a grave?

GREAT question, i don't have an answer as much as some thoughts that may not all hang together but maybe speak to different ways of thinking about this dynamic. consider these jumping-off points more than fully formed thoughts! the relationship between ghosts and graves is at various points

symbiotic: ghosts mark graves that would otherwise go unmarked and graves anchor ghosts who would otherwise wander aimlessly. ghosts speak for graves which have no voice and graves house ghosts who have no home.

additive: ghosts and graves ultimately contribute to the same project, that of pointing to things past which would otherwise remain hidden. ghosts and graves are both ultimately representations of "something which has been lost but which is still present among us" (gordon).

geographic: graves are rooted in place while ghosts are "characteristically attached to the events, things, and places that produced them in the first place" (gordon). not every ghost has a geographic attachment, but many do, such that places can be marked with graves, haunted by ghosts, or some of both.

temporal: if graves are fixed in place, ghosts are fixed in time. (or is it the other way around?) graves are problematic because they stain their locations permanently; once something has been a grave, it is always a grave. ghosts, on the other hand, are problematic because they are flexible; unmoored, unmanageable, appearing in times and places they shouldn't be.

envious: ghosts long for the peaceful sleep found in graves. graves long for the power of the ghost: to insist on remembrance and to punish forgetfulness.

material: graves are of the earth and ghosts are ephemeral, no longer earth-bound. their transience gives them freedom of movement but they cannot hold what they cannot touch.

causal: improper burial or grave maintenance produces ghosts. proper treatment of ghosts results in burial and banishment back to the grave.

antithetical: ghosts, however partial, are still beings, whereas graves represent the ultimate nonbeing, the limit of consciousness. the ghost rises out of the grave or seeks the grave, but the corpse in the grave is not anything at all.