#bbclock

[weedle-testaburger]

does anyone else remember how the wwdits writers said nandor and guillermo weren't going to be conventionally dating and people claimed that wwdits, a show that from the very first episode had casually and explicitly bisexual vampires with constant references to their biness, and every single lead was canonically queer, was Queerbaiting? i'm sorry but that was fucking dumb

[leatherbookmark]

kpop desperately needs fandom historians for obvious reasons but also because some... tropes? dynamics? keep on reappering and i have no idea why. like okay one fic where yeosang and san don't like each other, whatever, happens. but two? three? four? and it's not even the focus of the fic (for example, a rivals to lovers dynamic) but rather it's just something that happens in the bg. oh yeah, yeosang is just an irritable guy who hates when people (san) get into his business. yeosang? kang yeosang? THE kang yeosang? post-2019? you cannot do this to me without at least a paragraph of context

[claudia-kishi]

ele haters in the tags again and it's bc the dashboard is like hey this post was posted in elementary! maybe don't tag your i hate elementary and it isn't a sherlock adaptation posts in the elementary tag, you bbclock losers

[bulletproofbell]

Honestly i dont think I’ve seen the sense of superiority that bbclock Stan’s feel this badly since their famously terrible 4th season of their show

[eidetictelekinetic]

Also, honestly, Sherlock being more or less in "the real world" works. Both Supernatural and the Whoniverse are set up as the kind of fantasy/sci-fi that exists in said "real world" with the fantastic elements hidden from most of the population. (Well, the Whoniverse involves that hiddenness breaking, but still, same basic idea.) So having a third player in the crossover that is in the "real world" and doesn't require even more universe-bending to fit together actually makes perfect sense.

It's quite easy to have the TARDIS appear in BBC Sherlock's London, and it doesn't take too much work to figure out how Winchesters might end up there too, or how Sherlock and John might end up in the USA somewhere that the Winchesters also are. And the TARDIS can crop up there as easily as London.

I'm putting more thought into this than some of SuperWhoLock needed - some really was just for fun - but I do a lot of crossover fic, and it honestly works a little easier if some of the canons you're using can just... slot into that "real world" spot instead of having to always figure out how the different universes can fit. Honestly, making SPN and the Whoniverse fit is much harder in that respect.

unrelatedly people are always like “lmao what was supernatural doing in superwholock” and i’ve said that myself in the past but actually no. what was SHERLOCK doing in superwholock. like i know the answer is queerbait but also like. supernatural and doctor who as sprawling sci fi behemoths lasting longer than is plausible deliberately veering into ridiculousness featuring a Heroes Breeze Into Town monster of the week format and universe-level stakes and a WHOLE lot of speculative “what if what if what if” . sandbox shows cultural curiosities. sherlock is NOTHING she’s DUST. britishness does not a similarity make

[lovetheinsane]

im still around, even more obsessed with tf stuff but now im employed so i have less free time :(

[mercy-misrule]

It's so funny that I read 19 of the miss Fisher books but stopped after her threesome with Watson and Sherlock stand ins book because I read the afterword and the author didn't like Elementary

Lmao

Some wounds never heal! Carrying the scar of being an Elementary liker from when it first aired and how horrid the bbclock fans were being

We used to have to tag Elementary positivity on our fandom posts so we could go into that tag and not see weird screeds.

She wasn't rude about it, btw. People are allowed to like and dislike what they will. There's no issue there!

...I just think it reflects poorly on me for how reactionary I am still, now, more than a decade later lol.

[randomwholocker]

i'm having feelings translock feelings also trans jon feelings s4 of bbclock 2017 s1 of tma 2016 trying to justify them knowing each other but idkkkkkkkk probably not going to be much dialogue (if at all) hypothetical title: The Archivist and the Detective which is kinda boring but tbh vibey

[thesporkidentity]

to give additional context on just how nonsensical this is to those outside holmes fandom, this would be like if they took "The Bible and Related Fandoms" and synned it so it redirected to "Jesus Christ Superstar" thus claiming that dante's inferno is a fanwork of an andrew lloyd weber musical

recoiling in horror bc the "sherlock holmes and related fandoms" tag is gone and it got replaced with the bbclock tag and now it looks like I'm a bbc enjoyer on ao3

[silenthillmutual]

i hereby request your unpopular opinions about characters wronged by the writers

in addition to characters whose sources are Just Not Good (bela talbot spn and molly hooper bbclock) i would argue xavier from saw ii (holy shit why does no one talk about the massive amts of racism in how he was written specifically to be a hate sink) and literally any fat character (why for example does every single danganronpa character get hit with the I Can Fix Them beam by the fandom except the fat ones 🤨)

[thisweekinfandomhistory]

Oh, boy. This week, Emily and V dig into yet another cult of personality and banana-bonkers conspiracy theory within fandom: BBC Sherlock's The JohnLock Conspiracy, or TJLC. From the totally normal metas dissecting why curtains are blue on the show to totally abhorrent doxxing at a convention, this episode has everything. Gay tea. Secret BBC vaults. Un… aired… specials. Were you a BBClock fan? (Given that Johnlock is the #2 ship on AO3, some of you must be!) Did you TJLC?

This Week In Fandom History is a fandom-centric podcast that tells you… what happened this week in fandom history!

[weedle-testaburger]

why did that make me think of this:

[presumenothing]

@ lianhua novel anon: just fyi that i saw your ask and yes would love to talk on it when the braincells permit!! (+ probably also when i finish watching, we're on ep36 rn)

…though i did just have unfortunate and highly cursed but not inaccurate thought that at least some of the plot/coherency issue may be familiar from acd holmes to bbclock adaptation issues, i.e. the addition of Big Backstory Plot followed by the shoehorning of said plot into what were mostly standalone cases in the original writing with varying degrees of success

[bigscaryd]

I love Elementary and kind of liked BBCLock before it went so aggressively off the rails, but this is the most brilliant idea I've ever heard.

"hey everybody it's your boy, Doc W, here with the afternoon update on You-Know-Who"

("Sherl," as he's called, can be seen intermittently behind Watson's head as he paces back and forth.)

"Not much today, but you'll never guess who didn't know the earth orbits the sun."

Offscreen, Sherl can be heard shouting "it's simply not relevant! I'm quite familiar with the dynamics of the Earth-Moon system, as the position of various satellites and their transit of the moon has proven relevant in a number of cases.."

(Watson makes the blah-blah-blah motion with his free hand, and adjusts his phone so Sherl is in frame over his shoulder.)

"...and, should any crime ever occur beyond circumlunar space I shall promptly acquaint myself with the entire system, without the need for any pronouncement about your mother's luncheon-table!"

"Anyway folks, we're off to dinner, don't forget tomorrow is the subathon and show-and-tell from his coat closet. Content warning: BONES! Cya!"

Everyone gives Sherlock Holmes a hard time about being mean about Watson's writing, but honestly imagine you told your roommate "sure, you can write up an account of my work for the newspaper," thinking it would be like, about the murder, but then he publishes it and it's 90% about you, as a person, and it's a huge hit and now everyone in London knows that you hoard newspapers and do cocoaine when you're depressed. Because I think you'd be little miffed too.

[amazingkitty]

Me when i forget this is the antiblack site where everyone is white. Aldjfkskfdd decided to finally check to see what ppl on here think abt the watson show and there's like no fandom for it and then majority of ppl talking abt it are like hating on it and calling it a house rip off WHICH IT'S not even. Just cuz it's a medical procedural with a modern watson. So like can we never have modern medical procedurals Holmes adaptations without them automatically being a house md rip off??? I don't really care i just like medical procedurals when they have characters i like.

Like there are valid critiques to be had abt the writing but every complaint i see seems so mean spirited and bad faith. Also saw several ppl say they like bbclock more which LOL.

[unintentionaloracle]

Funny thing about the (often ex-)BBClock fan trauma of the "drunk phone charger" thing is while I feel that, I think I've moved past that... buuuuut I still put my scarves on like that one so there's still some of that brainrot left...