#c :: david haller

[xmenuniverse]

David Haller in X-Men Legacy #10-11 (2013), art by Paul Davidson and Tan Eng Huat.

[im-thekeeper]

fancy boy

[byneddiedingo]

Ten Cents a Dance (Lionel Barrymore, 1931)

Cast: Barbara Stanwyck, Ricardo Cortez, Monroe Owsley, Sally Blane, Blanche Friderici, Phyllis Crane, Victor Potel, Al Hill, Jack Byron, Pat Harmon, Martha Sleeper, David Newell, Sidney Bracey. Screenplay: Jo Swerling, Dorothy Howell. Cinematography: Ernest Haller, Gilbert Warrenton. Art direction: Edward C. Jewell. Film editing: Arthur Huffsmith. 

[brookstonalmanac]

Birthdays 10.16

Beer Birthdays

Santiago Graf (1845)

Five Favorite Birthdays

Bob Mould; rock guitarist, singer (1960)

Eugene O'Neill; playwright (1888)

Tim Robbins; actor (1958)

Noah Webster; lexicographer (1758)

Oscar Wilde; Irish writer (1854)

Famous Birthdays

Sue Bird; basketball player (1980)

Arnold Böcklin; Swiss artist (1827)

Rembrandt Bugatti; sculptor (1884)

Michael Collins; Irish activist (1890)

Barry Corbin; actor (1940)

Linda Darnell; actor (1924)

William O. Douglas; U.S. Supreme Court justice (1898)

Flea; rock bassist (1962)

Adrianne Frost; comedian (1972)

Goose Goslin; Washington Senators LF (1900)

Gunter Grass; German writer (1927)

Bert Kaempfert; musician (1923)

Angela Lansbury; actor (1925)

Melissa Lauren; French porn actor (1984)

John Mayer; pop singer (1977)

Tim McCarver; St. Louis Cardinals C (1941)

Nico; German model, singer (1938)

Benjamin Russell; artist (1804)

Suzanne Somers; actor (1946)

Paul Strand; photographer (1890)

C.F. Turner; rock musician (1943)

Albrecht von Haller; Swiss anatomist, physiologist, naturalist (1708)

Bob Weir; rock singer, guitarist (1947)

Wendy Wilson; pop singer (1969)

David Zucker; film director (1947)

[identity-library]

Mental Health (Comics)

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DC (Comics)

Arnold Wesker/Ventriloquist (DID, Schizophrenia)

Harvey Dent/Two Face (DID)

Peyton Riley/Ventriloquist (DID)

Rhosyn Forrest/Thorn (DID)

Rose Canton/Thorn (Schizophrenia)

Roy Harper/Arsenal (Addiction - Drugs)

Thom Kallor/Starboy (Schizophrenia)

Todd Rice/Obsidian (Schizophrenia)

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Marvel (Comics)

David Haller/Legion (Dissociative Identity Disorder)

Jessica Jones (Addiction - Alcohol, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder)

Marc Spector/Moon Knight (Dissociative Identity Disorder)

Matthew Murdock/Daredevil (Depression, Trauma)

Robert Reynolds/Sentry (Schizophrenia, Dissociative Identity Disorder)

Ruth Aldine/Blindfold (Trauma)

Wade Wilson/Deadpool (Schizophrenia)

Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch (Psychotic Break)

Monica's Gang (Comics)

Nando (Anxiety, Intrusive Thoughts)

Professor Spada (Dissociative Identity Disorder)

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Our Dreams at Dusk (Manga)

Misora Shuuji (Sexual Assault)

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[rei-ismyname]

Indeed. I do try to forget most portrayals of Marvel 'autism' but more recent instances get closer to DID. Though most recently Aurora has been portrayed as the codename of JMB and David hated Legion as a name chosen by others - embracing it in a moment of self actualisation. I don't think we've seen any alters since X-Men Legacy/I don't remember for JMB, maybe Dark Reign.

Legion is appearing in the Giant-Size one shots, but I heard somewhere that it's not the David Haller last seen with Hope, killing The Phoenix in the White Hot Room. I don't have receipts for that, but I enjoyed the Krakoan portrayal of both characters as. I wonder how they'll square the circle on the drastically different appearances of C list characters. :/

Mutant Names

I've been reading a lot of X-Men discourse recently because I made a random visit to the Pretty, Fizzy Paradise to see if there was anything new and found a link to @kalinara's tumblr.

In the reading of the of all the X-Stuff, I noticed that a lot of fans writing about X-Men don't use codenames when talking about the characters. For the most part, they use the names that the characters were given by their parents. The characters' birth names.

It's rarely Cyclops; it's Scott. Hank, instead of Beast. Logan more than Wolverine. Even Ororo more often than Storm.

I find this interesting because at some point in my X-Men experience I headcanoned that the mutants chose a new name for themselves and their birth names then become dead.

The headcanon probably comes from the scene in X2 when Magneto meets Pyro and asks, "What's your real name, John?" My headcanon was that the X-Men, all the mutants we meet in the comics, was that they named themselves and killed their birth names.

But that's not true, is it?

Xavier named the original X-Men, didn't he? He decided to infantilize Jean and name Scott after a monster from mythology.

I'm going to have to seriously rethink this headcanon, aren't I?

[bruisedconscience]

i am pretty, i deserve love. ✨

[justacomedy-archived]

@bruisedconscience​:  “ even when you smile, your eyes are still sad. ” — from David Haller

— A laugh threatened to escape Arthur, his eyes fall and his attempt to swallow it down was almost futile, but he somehow managed despite the near constant tugging of his lips fighting the smile. It was funny- that he was so sad that other people could see it reflecting in his eyes even when he smiles. No one ever pays enough attention to him to truly see him; to see just how sad he really was as he’s become so good at faking smiles if only to give the illusion that he was happy. Arthur’s own mother cant even recognize his misery, but here stands David, pointing out something so obvious that’s simply gone ignored by the rest of the world around them. Pointing out something Arthur has silently begged for anyone to notice. And he’s not sure what to say; he’s never had to explain himself like this before- even his therapist never seemed to care enough to say something about it if she ever even noticed. “I.. yeah-” he speaks, almost as if he were ashamed. “It’s just.. hard-” there was a short pause, his words come out almost breathlessly, tone bordering broken “to feel happy all the time.” He hopes that the other can relate, even at least a little. “You know, sometimes, I wonder why I even try.”

[sesiondemadrugada]

Bound for Glory (Hal Ashby, 1976).

[thebooksanctum]

Top 5 Wednesday - Book Wish List

Top 5 Wednesday – Book Wish List

So, NaNoWriMo absolutely exhausted me, hence why there’s been a lack of blog posts recently. But, I want to get back into it, so I thought I’d do a Top 5 Wednesday, and have a bit of a chat about my most wanted books on my wishlist!

 The Steel Prince, Volume 1 – V E Schwab. I’m a massive Schwab fan, especially of her Darker Shade Of Magic series. I’m also a massive fan of comic books. So, when I…

[im-thekeeper]

nezha & ao bing: two parts of a whole, quite literally yin and yang

nezha fandom: never separate them!!

me: hee hahah teehee

me: 🤲 *legion and nezha crossover with no ao bing at sight*

[plural-swag-competition]

Going to list names of all the entries that had more than one submission. Let us know if any others should go to vote before we figure out the bracket. This does include some that are already being voted on for inclusion. These will be copy/pasted directly from submissions to minimize how much typing we have to do.

Note that we're more worried about a system existing due to the "evil alter" trope than we are about systems that happen to be antagonists and have done bad things. As part of one of the submissions said:

made funnier by the fact that it's one evil guy... and one even eviler guy. the "but wait ! there's more !" of bad guys

This is also a chance to let us know if we counted a system two different times in this. The Red vs Blue ones in particular is what we're worried about mistaking here. We do not want to accidentally put a system into the bracket twice.

Shallan Davar/Veil/Radiant - The Stormlight Archive

Shigeo "Mob" Kageyama - Mob Psycho 100

Yugi Mutou & Atem - Yu-Gi-Oh!

The Moon Knight System (Marc Spector, Steven Grant, Jake Lochley) - Moon Knight Marvel Comics

Frisk/Chara - Undertale

Raphael Hamato - Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Paper (+ EP) - Inanimate Insanity

Greed/Ling - Fullmetal Alchemist

Harrier Du Bois - Disco Elysium

Sunny/Omori - OMORI

Arthur Lester / John Doe - Malevolent Podcast

Link (Green, Red, Blue, Vio, and I personally include Shadow in this, though he wasn't split, he was mirrored!) - The Legend of Zelda: Four Sword Adventures

Sora/Roxas/Ventus/Vanitas - Kingdom Hearts

ENA - ENA

Uendo Toneido (Uendo & Patches & Kisegawa & Owen) - Ace Attorney: Spirit of Justice

Blitzwing - Transformers: Animated

dr alto clef - SCP wiki

Leonard Church - Red vs Blue

Cassie O'Pia - Psychonauts 2

Bruce banner/hulk/joe fixit/devil hulk - Marvel comics

Link/Deku Butler’s Son/Darmani III/Mikau/Fierce Deity - LoZ Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask

Hojo Emu, Tensai Gamer M, Parado (Kamen Rider Ex-Aid) (Body name Hojo Emu) - Kamen Rider Ex-Aid

The Warrior of Light - Final Fantasy XIV

c!ranboo - DSMP/Dream SMP

Yellow Guy - Don't Hug Me I'm Scared

toko fukawa/genocider syo - Danganronpa

Madeline & Mirrorline!!!! - Celeste

Darcy Wu - Amphibia

Sakaki Yuya, Yuto, Yugo, Yuuri - Body is Sakaki Yuya (technically this is one vote for the anime and one for the manga, but we're counting it as two) - Yugioh Arc-V

Jaden Yuki/Haou Jaden/Yubel - Bodyname Jaden Yuki - Yu-Gi-Oh! GX

Malik Ishtar (x2) - Yu-Gi-Oh!

Mike/Chester/Vito/Svetlana/Manitoba/Mal - Total Drama

Peter Nureyev - The Penumbra Podcast

Epsilon - Red vs Blue

Ford Cruller - Psychonauts

Goldia die Heilige/Fleta/Harpae/Lisette - Pocket Mirror

Akira Kurusu / Ren Amamiya / Joker (honestly we're just gonna count this one as "wildcards" because the more recent protags from this series are all equally plural, but we know that Joker would win a popularity contest of them.) - Persona

the sunken - Oxenfree

Edward Teach - Our Flag Means Death

Jackson Jekyll and Holt Hyde - Monster High

Mikoto Kayano - Milgram

Patrick and Rey Sprigs - Megaman Starforce

the Legion system (David Haller and headmates) - Marvel/X-Men Comics

Triad/Luornu Durgo - LoS Legion of Superheroes Post-Zero Hour run/1993-2003 run

Vyncent “Virion” Sol - Just Roll With It: Prime Defenders

Diavolo and Dopplio (though the second literally said "NOT Diavolo" so. Hm) - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

One-One - Infinity Train

Alluka and Nanika Zoldyck - Hunter x Hunter

Calliope/Caliborn - Homestuck

Gray Reverse - Helios: Rising Heroes

Raiden Ei/Raiden Shogun - Genshin Impact

Sylvie Ashling and Dr. Beefton - Epithet Erased

Kris and the SOUL - Deltarune

Hajime Hinata/Izuru Kamukura - Super Dangan Ronpa 2

BMO - Adventure Time

[braindamxge-blog]

What do you think about them changing David's diagnosis?

|( CURIOUS ANONS )( always accepting )|

by this, i assume you’re asking for my thoughts on david’s show canon diagnosis being schizophrenia while his comic canon diagnosis has always been dissociative identity disorder (DID) and i’d like !!! to thank you for this question. i’ve seen a lot of concern in the legion tag about david’s diagnosis, and some general wariness that noah hawley and the rest of the intrepid crew over at fx legion might erase david’s illness as his powers move more traditionally comic canon based. we’ve already seen notions of a legion of personas: cary actually uses the phrase “split mind” and, apart from the shadow king, we have rational david (who says he was created by david’s powers) and we have potential personality absorptions a la comic canon in lenny busker, walter aka the eye, and maybe even oliver bird. and then we’re facing what happens now that the shadow king is out of david’s head, and what noah hawley means when he says season two will feature “a sane man in an insane world” while also claiming he is NOT looking to eliminate mental illness from the narrative.

let me preface this by saying, i’m not worried. i trust that mental illness will remain a prominent theme in fx legion, and i trust them to represent david haller to the full extent of his character. as for what i think about the disparity between david’s comic canon and show canon diagnoses:

first, i think misdiagnosis is a crucial part of mental health narratives. i think the confusion or conflation of schizophrenia with dissociative identity disorder is immensely prevalent. just yesterday i had to educate someone about it. “split personalities” are still heavily associated with schizophrenia, not DID. i think DID is a less widely known/feared diagnosis than schizophrenia, and i think the symptoms david has exhibited (remember, in the show he’s yet to really present a dissociative identity) would surely bring on a schizophrenia diagnosis rather than a DID diagnosis. the fluidity of the time scheme and the 60s/70s aesthetic/inspiration heavily support a misdiagnosis aspect to the narrative as well.

i also don’t happen to think the comics ever did a very good job representing david’s mental illness as, first and foremost, a mental illness. the comic character of david haller is defined by his omega level mutant abilities, and his relationship to charles xavier. in most narratives, he spends his childhood and young adulthood in a medically/psychically induced coma thanks in part to a horrible trauma, but mostly due to a gross inability to help or even handle him once his ability (see: illness) has manifested. once david is out of his coma, his primary narrative purpose is usually to cause mayhem. the mutant community still doesn’t know how to deal with his existence. charlie x usually dies or fucks off rather than admit he doesn’t know how to deal with his son (that’s not a totally unbiassed statement on prof x’s role in legion’s comic runs, but i’m bitter so it’s what you get here). there’s always some sort of headband or wristwatch designed to help david lock away his personas, and usually (sometimes explicitly) david’s head becomes a prison. in one run in particular, david essentially kills himself when he realizes there’s no way to control what he is, and his run ends there. the representation of the tension between david’s abilities and his illness in the comics is kind of fucked up, and it all tends to result in the flash and bang of visualizing david’s powers erasing or overshadowing any talk of illness. sure, if you sit down and put on your interpretive goggles you can read the allegory for what it is, read david’s abilities as a mental illness, but if you ask me that’s not good enough. i want a mentally ill mutant, not a mutant whose mental illness is erased by or blamed totally on his powers.

and i happen to think that’s what fx legion gives us. i think introducing david’s diagnosis as schizophrenia was a stroke of genius, because it helps us escape the allegory. should david’s powers develop as they do in comic canon, they won’t just present as a physical manifestation of his established illness. had fx legion introduced david with dissociative identity disorder, his powers developing accordingly wouldn’t make us stop and think; we’d accept it, and it’d be a lot easier to tell him he’s not sick. because fx legion diagnosed david schizophrenic, developing his powers more in line with DID symptoms gives the show the opportunity to either visit the possibility of misdiagnosis, or present a mutant who has DID reminiscent abilities, but lives with schizophrenia. he is a mutant and he is mentally ill.

noah hawley’s “sane man in an insane world” comment also stands to engage the idea of a misdiagnosis. it’s important to remember, someone’s mental illness is highly specific to that someone; though we have developed a means for diagnosing mental illnesses, the rules aren’t hard and fast. much like mutant abilities, mental illnesses manifest differently in different people, and new diagnoses always stand to surface. david is schizophrenic, or david has a dissociative identity disorder, because that’s what his therapists decided to call what goes on between his ears. what if his actual illness is something in between, or something else altogether? what’s more, exploring the concept of an external illness (the shadow king existing outside of david’s head) opens up the thematics of the show to exploring not just how david’s mental illness operates internally, but how external forces have affected and will continue to affect it. just how damaging is society’s rhetoric about mental illness to the mentally ill? just how defining is a diagnosis?

fx legion is poised to tackle all of this, and i couldn’t be more excited.

[brookstonalmanac]

Birthdays 10.16

Beer Birthdays

Santiago Graf (1845)

Five Favorite Birthdays

Flea; rock bassist (1962)

Bob Mould; rock guitarist, singer (1960)

Tim Robbins; actor (1958)

Noah Webster; lexicographer (1758)

Oscar Wilde; Irish writer (1854)

Famous Birthdays

Arnold Böcklin; Swiss artist (1827)

Rembrandt Bugatti; sculptor (1884)

Michael Collins; Irish activist (1890)

Barry Corbin; actor (1940)

Linda Darnell; actor (1924)

William O. Douglas; U.S. Supreme Court justice (1898)

Adrianne Frost; comedian (1972)

Goose Goslin; Washington Senators LF (1900)

Gunter Grass; German writer (1927)

Bert Kaempfert; musician (1923)

Angela Lansbury; actor (1925)

Melissa Lauren; French porn actor (1984)

John Mayer; pop singer (1977)

Tim McCarver; St. Louis Cardinals C (1941)

Nico; German model, singer (1938)

Eugene O'Neill; playwright (1888)

Benjamin Russell; artist (1804)

Suzanne Somers; actor (1946)

Paul Strand; photographer (1890)

C.F. Turner; rock musician (1943)

Albrecht von Haller; Swiss anatomist, physiologist, naturalist (1708)

Bob Weir; rock singer, guitarist (1947)

Wendy Wilson; pop singer (1969)

David Zucker; film director (1947)

[morganas-pendragons]

This is still one of the best shows I’ve ever seen. Holy crap.

Legion. The World Killer.

[glofigs]

Dan Stevens 😁

you stinker! Love you C!

Leave an actor or actress in my ask box and I will tell you:

First thing I saw them in: hmm now, this is a complicated question, the first thing I saw them in and the first thing that made me take notice are two different things. Tech the first thing I saw him in was Vamps and DA, but the thing that made me sit up and take notice was Legion and his interviews promoting it.

Why I like them: oh my goodness! The list goes on and on with this one, that man (to me) is Perfection! or just about. Now I know he is human and the people that know him he does shit that annoys them and whatnot but to us fans, he is a lovable little perfect weirdo and he is ours. He is hilarious, not to mention sexy and kind and generous. So fucking witty and clever. Its the littlest things that get him excited and wanting to share with the world on his IG. He has it all.

My favorite role of theirs: This one is a toughy, there are so many. From Nick Guest to Alexander Lemtov, to David Haller to Gilbert Evans to Ray Lovell.

My least Favorite role of theirs: This one is a little easier to answer. Kenny Kristo, Charlie from The Rental, Hugo is a bit annoying, I Am sure there are more, but these come to mind.

Roles I’d like to see them in: Well I would have liked to see him play Mooney in Hangmen, but that shit never happened so, def in a musical on stage, I would love to see him in an ep or two of Doctor who! that would be awesome! or he hasn’t played a funny sidekick best friend  to the leading man yet, so that would be fun. I know he wouldn’t be the lead, but it would be something differnet. he rarely plays funny although more and more it seems he is, which is a great thing. Sorry rambling, moving on..

Who’d I like them to work with: Well i think many fans can agree Michelle again. But i also wanna say Hattie. As far as people he hasn’t played in the sandbox with yet, Lee Pace would be a great one and maybe Jaime Parker, as well as Damian Molony.

Thanks for ask!