#c00lkidd has a cat now its canon to me

[mildeleef]

Weird mammals on my screeeeen euuuuh

Random whiteboard doodles go here

And here, the stupid doodle rhat sparked the existance of this creature

It eats skittles off the carpet

[forsaken-headcanons]

I think that the spectre likes to change the species of those in its thrall every now n then and if a killer{or even a survivor if they can monkey paw it] has a species that sticks theyll let them stay like that or keep some traits so here's some alterhuman headcanons

Guest 1337 - cockroach copinglink{unrelated to the spectre, its related to the war because like they just like. dont. Die. Like Ever]

007n7 - water drakobloxxer otherkin{had a feeling ever since c00lkidd had them roleplay drakos, realized because of the spectre, got to keep the claws, teeth, and nictitating membrane(though at the cost of his old eye lids), made a shark fursona before he figured it out]

C00lkidd - whatever the rake is otherkin{Realized after stumbling upon the creepypasta, while getting to know the other killers he mentioned it and the spectre just ran with it, on top of c00lkidds whole new look he causes minor nightmares if you hang out with him too much(this will get more intense as he ages)]

Chance - robot otherkin{Realized after they got into casinos and kept observing slot machines and going "god I wish that was me", he told itrapped, itrapped told the spectre who just made them a robot when they got forsaken, not waterproofed, has a slot machine reel bundle where his eyes were that does the hp rolls/rerolls(cameras/eyes are in their hat), can print jokers from his mouth]

Two time - shadow otherkin<this part might be canon?) {knew from an early age, came up with the shadows die twice thing on their own and thats why the cult chose them for the whole sacrificing azure thing, talked about it to someone at some point while the spectre was stalking them, this was one of the many reasons the spectre gave them the second life, once forsaken they only have a shadow in their first life, got more desaturated, and theyre slightly translucent]

Elliott - cat otherkin {Realized after dropping some spectre provided™ acid and staring at the cat for a while, can purr now

- fear anon

oh we love these sm holy shamoly. SPECIFICALLY TWO TIME'S HELLOOO??? shark fursona 7n7 is SO real. people assume he's dangerous for admittedly valid reasons, when in reality, he's a lil softie now. oguh. holding him

[f0rs4k3nbyth3sp4wn]

making a post about how the fandom characterises elliot bcs ts pmo icl 🥀🥀🥀

(small cw for mentioned attempted murder towards a child [fictional ofc]. but this is the forsaken fandom so i dont think most people will care. oh also this is a REALLY long post so. beware)

sooo im pretty new to the fandom but after having browsed almost every sfw 7n7 fic on ao3, its safe to say elliot's characterisation (or, well, mischaracterisation), is becoming a HUGE problem. a lot of people make him pissy around n7 and c00lkidd, which, to be fair, he has a right to be pissy! but the way they execute this is where things go wrong.

this is a more extreme example, but here's the gist of an au my friend found on tiktok (not linking for the creator's sake, which, speaking of, if you've seen this au and know the creator, please don't harass them. i mean i shouldn't have to say that but im still putting it out there):

honestly i agree with the last sentence he said, even i know this is bs even though i've only been a forsaken fan for like a week or smth 😭😭🥀🥀 to show you why, let me break down what we do know of how elliot's personality, how he feels about n7 and c00lkidd, and how he expresses it:

he is generally portrayed as a sweet and kind person, who always wants to help wherever he can.

he 'hates' n7 due to what c00lkidd did to the pizzeria (according to the fanmade wiki), though nothing has (canonically) ever been said about his feelings towards c00lkidd himself (to my knowledge)

he is not openly hostile towards n7, and has never canonically said anything 'mean' to his face, only acted passive aggressive (e.g. "...just get going").

i do disagree with his feelings towards n7 being 'hate' rather than just 'strongly dislike' (trust me, theyre VERY different things), but i digress. even if we were to say elliot hated n7, some people portray him as not even hating, but loathing him (this is an even bigger problem in pizzaburger fics/aus imo). if you want to write a complicated/negative relationship between two characters who are not your own, it's vital to know the difference between dislike, hate and loathe (as seen below).

(via langeek.co)

the reason i say elliot strongly dislikes n7 as opposed to hate is because hatred is often accompanied with a sense of hostility (while dislike is more avoidant, which fits elliot more imo when we look at their canon interactions). if you hate someone, you will not want to help them, and to be fair, i've read a handful of fics where elliot straight up refuses to give n7 pizza, or is at least hesitant. i dont think that's how elliot would behave. yes he is mad at n7 for not controlling his son, and has a grudge against him, but at his core, elliot is a kind guy. even if he wasn't, he'd never leave someone to die, no matter how temporary.

but continuing on the whole 'elliot loathes n7' dynamic, it becomes even more jarring when you apply it as an 'enemies to lovers' pizzaburger dynamic. even more so if you don't do the work to make it well paced. here are some tips on how you can do that:

pay heed to the rest of this post and do NOT make elliot too aggressive towards 007n7 in your fic. otherwise, it may feel too forced, especially if you don't want to go through the slowburn route. feel free to let the guy be passive aggressive though, just don't make him feel uncontrollable hatred every time he sees 07 (i prefer to think he feels manageable disdain, though i think you can tell by now).

on the other side of the coin, do NOT make n7 too pathetic. im all for him being a soggy wet cat, but at the end of the day, that's a grown ass man that was once very similar to c00lkidd. at the very least, i don't think he'd be crying left and right, considering this is a former terrorist, lol.

this is more me telling you guys to be creative than giving tips on pacing (since im not very creative myself, so i dont have many tips myself rn) but if you want to write the exact moment elliot began to like and respect n7, i don't really like the idea of n7 achieving that by bodyblocking for elliot?? like. it's not typically executed right bcs again. it often does what i advised against in the above two points. if you wanna do smth like that in your fic/comic, try comprimising by making it a clone block instead, and letting n7 be a REALLY good distractor like those aggressive n7 main. (i left this incomplete on accident when i posted this lol)

just overall make sure elliot is respectful to n7 during the late pining and post establishing the relationship stages!! it's perfectly fine if you want him to say 'mean' stuff to him that he doesnt mean (think of how siblings, friends, and again, sometimes partners, joke with each other. tough love or wtv), but don't make him have a hate boner for the guy lol. unless youre writing smut where there are actual hate boners involved, i aint getting involved in allat.

anyways, idk how to end this post off, so on a more positive note, go check out this pizzaburger yaoilicious peak rn !!! and feel free to add your own opinions, idm having a discussion as long as youre respectful, and am likely to add more to this post if you remind me of smth i might wanna say (im not the best at articulating myself lol) !!

oh and also i made an addition to this post too covering the other characters