#cs julia

[cstveamaryllis]

i should draw some carulia..but in my season 5 au...hmm

[xenthosss]

In Julia's defense, if I was that gay and Carmen Sandiago asked me to do literally anything at all I would obey, zero questions asked

[pinkestlemonades]

I'm writing anonymously not out of anger, but because it's emotionally easier for me to communicate with people this way, so I apologize for that.

In my scenario, after the ending, Carmen and Chase actually become a couple within literally a week. Chase just shows up for Carmen in Buenos Aires, and they talk (it's funny that he lies to the Chief again about his diseases for this). Carmen even finally tells him her story. The peaceful atmosphere gives them a chance to get to know each other better and talk without chases, conflicts, or misunderstandings. Moreover, Chase immediately proposes a relationship to Carmen, deciding to be straightforward and not play hinting games.In a way, Chase becomes a kind of "sun" for Carmen, distracting her from the worries and dark thoughts about having been a villain and causing harm to people.

And Chase genuinely tries to atone for his guilt towards her, feeling responsible for VILE kidnapping her (Chase, however comical or ridiculous he might be, is an adult man and a guardian of law and order with experience, and he regrets that he hindered Carmen instead of helping her fight VILE). Carmen essentially saved his soul earlier (by giving back the masks in Venice, letting him believe in himself after all his failures and reprimands from the Chief), and now he's trying to support her soul.Anyway, Chase becomes Carmen's boyfriend faster than Julia would have, because he's used to acting immediately and not playing games with hints. Julia, on the other hand, preferred to wait passively – I don't know, maybe deciding to give Carmen time to recover and talk to her mom. This is kind of a callback to the first episode.

An interesting aspect of Carmen and Chase's relationship. Chase, as an adult man, now gets the opportunity to be dominant and challenge Carmen, which adds a plus to their relationship development. This seems amusing considering how often it was Carmen who challenged Chase and made a fool of him.I also think Carmen quite liked Chase before, because, although blindly, he never gave up in his attempts to arrest her, just as Carmen never gave up in her fight against VILE. They both are used to acting immediately, not waiting. Carmen saw how VILE tortured Chase and how steadfastly he tried to hold on, which adds to her respect for him. He also showed kindness and was worried about Julia. And I think Carmen would be shocked and admiring if she saw the enormous amount of work Chase did in his apartment in Poitiers, literally finding the VILE island alone and marking many places Carmen had visited (damn, he practically fulfilled Carmen's dream that she talked about in the official book about the first episodes!). The investigation board was a symbol of yet another failure for Chase, but Carmen changes that, making the board a symbol of his persistence and intelligence. In any case, Carmen tells Chase to keep the investigation board, not throw it away, and a couple of years later, their daughter plays under that board as the result of this entire investigation (where he was searching for a cunning criminal, but found an incredibly kind and brave girl who became his family).

I also have a headcanon about Chase's parents, and they are literally the reason why he's so arrogant and why he dreamed so much of always getting recognition (interestingly, Chase ran away from them just like Carmen ran from VILE, to follow his own path, which he believes is right and which his parents would never approve of).

A small detail, but Carmen seems to love Chase's smile, and Chase often used his smile to let her know everything was okay when he sensed her worries or anxiety.

I also want to note that Carmen and Chase go through almost identical paths (Carmen believed in VILE, Chase believed in the villain Carmen, and both were mistaken, subsequently trying to atone for their mistakes and their guilt).

Anyway, I would be grateful if you read all these thoughts and ideas of mine.

ooooooooooh there is so much food for thought here I don't think I can properly respond tbh. but. omg. your brain is so beautiful

(and don't worry about the anon thing!! you can dm me if you'd like but I understand if you'd rather not lol)

I think that this could totally be an option!! A lot of this is a thought process I totally wouldn't have been able to think of on my own, so I really love how in depth you went here. I definitely agree that if he gets to her early enough, Carmen would be feeling herself in this new calm environment and reflect that in the way she interacts with him. I think that especially after she's done with VILE, she decides to just live the simple life and hang out with her mom, and for like the first month she's really living her 'danger is finally over' fantasies. Personally, I think that over time she realizes that she's lived like 5 years of her life on the hunt and gets antsy, which would explain why she goes back to Carmen Sandiego in the epilogue, but especially in the beginning, I think she would enjoy some peaceful times, which would make her a lot less guarded. I can imagine her romanticizing it in her head like 'i am a normal person meeting up with an old friend. that has not tried to capture me like a billion times' and that kind of softening her purely because she wants it to be true.

And yeah, our views on julethief are pretty much the same. If they're ever to get together, it would take FOREVER. Meanwhile, I really love the idea of Chase just deciding and then going straight to action. In that way, I'd like to think he beat Julia in the race lmao

Out of curiosity, how willing do you think Carmen would be to share her story? imo some part of her would be pretty hesitant, even when she's a bit more relaxed, because there's only so many people that know how she came to be Carmen Sandiego, and all of them were pretty morally grey to begin with (Player hacked her phone, Shadowsan was in VILE for like over 20 years, Ivy and Zack only met her because they were trying to rob that bagel place). I believe she might think he would actually still vilify her purely because he's a Good Guy that works within the law etc etc, and she grew up a Bad Guy that turned into some sort of morally dubious vigilante.

And I absolutely love the idea of Chase being the blanket that sort of cocoons Carmen from the implications of her stint as a VILE operative. Her entering the honeymoon phase in a relationship would definitely distract her, and I'd like to think that as she copes with her emotions surrounding the situation, a lot of her mental struggles creep their way into their relationship and his steadfastness in continually wanting to be with her would make her a lot more receptive to his affection, if only because he's sticking through what's probably the worst time of her life.

I find your explanation of Chase trying to atone incredibly compelling, especially in my context of Carmen being willing to see their relationship through because he's so eager, because there's the potential for some wires to get crossed. Like maybe they have this big argument some time down the line that goes along the lines of "YOU DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT ME, YOU JUST FEEL GUILTY" "I FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT YOU" or something? just a thought I had. tbh they could also be perfectly normal about it because, at least for Carmen, all her childhood connections with people were a bit fucked up and it could still mess with her head to the point where she's like "yeah he decided to love me because he's guilty. the important part is that he loves me" (not that i'm saying that's what actually happened, that's just what I believe she would think)

I also love the idea of Carmen saving his dignity by giving him back the masks. I think that might actually be a part of what triggered his doubts in Carmen's Bad Guy status; she helped him, even though she's always very exasperated with his antics. Something something it has symbolic meaning to them as a moment? I like the idea of him thinking of it as a solid she's done him and her trauma as a way to repay her kindness.

It never would have occurred to me that Chase would forgo trying to get to Carmen through Julia and just show up at her doorstep like "hiiii can I come in?". I actually like this concept better than the third-friend-in-a-duo thing I'd been going with in my head. He really is the type to do now think later, and I love that for him <3

I wonder if Chase factored Carmen's reunion with her mom at all? I can imagine him not even registering it and meanwhile Carmen appreciating the fact that she has a (physical, sorry Player) person who just Knows what her deal is. Especially since he'd done all the detective work he had, and with her filling in the rest of the gaps rather than explaining the whole thing, as she would to her mom. He has a level of experience with her that Carlotta just doesn't have, so I think that for a while she might even be more invested in her relationship with him than with her mother. There are a ton of angst possibilities here that I won't really get into because that might have to be an entirely separate post. but know I am brimming with ideas of how that influences them.

Personally, I really cant see either of them being the 'dominant' one in the relationship tho. I think that their flirting styles are very opposite, so they tend to take turns on who's leading. Chase gets all the big romantic cheesy gestures, and she gets all the smooth one liners. When he's leading, they're going on sweet romantic dinner dates and she's his beautiful princess, and when she's leading they're hitting up bars or something and she's just flirting with him until he gets flustered. I don't think they'd know that they're taking turns tho it just kinda depends on their general mood. Although I can see the merit of having their relationship take a 180 pre- and post- getting together.

I also wouldn't say Carmen liked Chase per se -- she was often very done with him, but I do think that it could also be partially because of his comically bad timing rather than who he was. I think she definitely respected the drive but found it ultimately annoying because the thrill she got from her capers wasn't from a chase (hah) from Interpol or ACME but rather her chasing down VILE. I personally believe that his repeated involvement was a growing hurdle to her, until her final and true team up with ACME

They definitely do mirror each other in a lot of respects though. I loveee the idea of Carmen being impressed by Chase's determination to Shut The Fuck Up when he got kidnapped. I think if she knew he sang the French national anthem to confuse his thoughts she might fall in love with him right then and there. and the investigation board would probably make her sappy, because she's a lil insane like that.

Their bond over the Julia kidnapping arc is definitely the basis for most of their positive interactions, so I think they would both cherish it a lot. Although I sort of want to see how they would both think of it

I have no clue what book you're talking about though I didn't know they had a book?? i'll have to check that out lol

The investigation board symbolizing failure is definitely an interesting idea. Like would he walk away from that first meeting, sad because he was so close yet so far away? Would he focus more on the fact that he was finally given the story and his detective work could finally be put to rest?

And this might be an unpopular opinion but I honestly don't think that either of them would be good parents. Carmen and Chase both get a thrill from the work they do, so they tend to throw themselves into it. Part of the reason they would get along is because they both understand this of each other, and don't mind being put on the backburner as their partner focuses on something important to them. Once they trust in their love for each other, they could probably be one of those couples where they don't go out for like 3 months for no real reason and be fine by the end of it, because while Carmen tried to unravel some longcon halfway across the globe, Chase gets fixated on a kidnapping case or something. I think both of them would also have the self awareness to know that their habits aren't really conducive to raising a child. And I don't necessarily think that really says anything about their morality either, I just don't think they would be good at it. I do love the loop back to the beginning vibes tho I could totally see this as a longfic or spinnoff series, and it could totally be cute!!

Chase's parents headcanon? Do tell? I tend to forget to fill in the backstory blanks that the main media doesn't supply, so I'd like to hear your take on it.

also yessss them two mirroring each other I'm so here for it. I love when a ship is literally the same story in a different font

overall. I love this so so much and I think you might actually be convincing me of carchase as a concept. thank you so much of this beautiful ask. I'm not sure I won't break Tumblr with this response but hopefully it'll stay intact?? anyways YIPPEE I LOVE THIS very many things have been put in my headcanon purse thank youuuuuuu <333333

[st0r-fruit]

Carulia child screenshot edit

(has this been done yet-)

The name i had for her is Isabella Carulia Argent Cruz/Sandiego

Kind of a messy screen shot edit, sorry.

Hope you like it!

[yttmnm5]

The scenery is amazing!!!

Rooftop ✨

[nocturnalhe]

BOOMSHAKALAKAAA art dump + silly edit🌀

[captainpluto13]

Happy Halloween!!🎃

You know I had to draw the CS cast in Halloween costumes again this year! Have fun and stay safe!

Thank you everyone for the amazing support! I appreciate it a ton! 🎃🍬🦇

Last year’s post!

[skipppppy]

I’m just throwing things at the wall to get rid of the hyperfixation at this point

[mochapao]

me when im normal about something (draws them as ponies)

[snakesinsocks2005]

Ok but like what if post canon acme, having finally succeeded at something in two decades, starting gradually making more sensible improvements to their whole thing?

Like, for example, designated tie clips as a mandatory part of their uniform, to indicate an agents level of training. Each level and clip colour gets an agent different levels of acme clearance to types of missions, leniency with given acme property, etc.

Silver would be the very first. You get this one when you first get your suit. Very little clearance to pretty much everything. Must have an older agent accompany them on missions.

Copper (can also be called bronze) is commonly seen as the awkward agent puberty stage- in the process of finishing their training. Mostly put in surveillance and data analysis. Standard level for those staying in logistical positions.

Gold in the acme field agent standard, all necessary clearance for the average agent. Most are happy at this level, and do not continue training.

Black is the most extreme level of formal training acme provides, in which the agent has to, of their own accord, opt in to attempt finishing. These select few especially determined (most likely prideful and stubborn) agents are the most chosen for the missions in which they ordinarily risk their life. Requires special Chief issued recommendation.

Special thanks to @disfordevineaux for helping me with this idea!!

[kitty-meowskers]

i may be 5 years late to the fandom but i have made some cs things👍👍👍enjoy

[cstveamaryllis]

HEADCANON BIRTHDATES AND AGES OF CARMEN SANDIEGO CHARACTERS (FOR MY AU)

MAIN CAST YEAR - 2023-2024 Carmen - 24-25, March 1, 1999 Ivy - 23-24, July 18, 2000 Zack - 22-23, September 27, 2001 Player - 19-20, March 7, 2004 Shadowsan - 48-49, January 10, 1976

MAIN VILLAINS Amaryllis - 19-20, October 5, 2004 Flytrap - 21-22, November 26, 2002 Spinkick - 21-22, December 16, 2002 SIDE VILLAINS (not revealing them y et) ??? - 27-28, November 10, 1996 ??? - 26-27, April 17, 1997 ??? - 28-29, May 8, 1995 ??? - 30-31, April 26, 1993 ??? - 25-26, June 6, 1998

ACME

Julia - 26-27, March 16, 1997 Chase - 44-45, February 4, 1980 Chief/Fraiser - 56-57, February 19, 1967 Zari - 28-29, June 22, 1995 ??? - 43-44, September 2, 1981

VILE FACULTY

Maelstrom - 62-63, December 10, 1961 Bellum - 56-57, November 27, 1967 Cleo - 52-53, May 5, 1971 Coach Brunt - 61-62, March 16, 1962 Roundabout - 60-61, September 26, 1963

OTHER CHARACTERS

Marta Contreras - 46-47 October 15, 1978 Gray/Crackle - 30-31, October 21, 1993 Sheena/Tigress - 29-30, July 16, 1994 Mime Bomb - 28-29, November 2, 1995 Antonio - 31-32, July 23, 1992 Jean Paul - 31-32, February 2, 1992 Paperstar - 26-27, August 6, 1997 Neal - 31-32, November 18, 1992 Dash Haber - 34-35, August 20, 1989 Lady Dokuso - 48-49, August 22, 1976 Cookie Booker - 52-53, December 19, 1971

[slimmmby]

Drawings of Julia!

(I liked way more the second one)

Requested by @gwourtneystan

[pinkestlemonades]

Chase and Carmen have the opportunity to spend some peaceful time together after the ending. Moreover, Carmen has promised to tell Chase about her past. This is a good start for their friendship and romantic relationship. Just the two of them, talking, a cafe, and a park...

Chase is still a good, kind, attentive, and smart man. And he can be nice to Carmen.

I don't think Carmen will consider him a ridiculous fool if she finds out how much work he put in to find her (but instead found VILE Island, which is probably shocking to Carmen).

And I think they're both interesting people. And Julia isn't the center of the world.

ARE YOU THE FAMED CARCHASE ANON?? I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT OMG. This feels like a rite of passage. I'm so happy you sent this ask!!

First off, I'd like to apologize for taking forever to answer this. I'm actually a bit scared that since you're on anon, and I supposedly haven't had any new followers recently, you won't see this at all and assume I deleted the ask, which would actually be a tragedy because I want to open a dialogue here!! I'm interested in different interpretations of Carmen and Chase's dynamic and the show as a whole, and I love that you gave me just that <3 in other words, get off anon!! I wanna be friends :3

But here's my take:

I actually agree with most of what you said. Chase is absolutely a good man, and he has tons of energy to put into cherishing his life partner, if he so chooses. We see his conviction that overnight, his job has turned into Capturing Carmen Sandiego and Nothing Else in the show for like. 3.5 seasons. When he goes for something, he goes all in, and I think that would translate to romantic relationships as well. To me, he's the type for grand romantic gestures, perfectly planned dates, all the classics. That man knows how to woo!

And he absolutely can be nice to Carmen!! We see that especially at the end of the show, with the whole 'Julia is kidnapped' arc, considering he didn't yet know she wasn't with VILE the night he got kidnapped and yet still trusted her, and basically every point beyond that. I don't think she'd ignore that either, which in retrospect I can see where you got that from but it certainly was not my intention to imply that in the original post. Carmen, as much as I love to clown on her for having poor people skills (raised on an island, barely says anything to anyone she talks to outside of Team Red, etc etc), is not blind. She knows that chase has all those qualities you listed, as she should.

I could also believe that, were they to date, they would be pretty peaceful compared to the life Carmen led. Chase throws his whole heart and soul into everything he chooses to hone in on, and I think Carmen would enjoy just being along for the ride. Like, in my ideal Carchase world, Carmen would make fun of him for failing to catch some criminal and, once again, driving himself into a river, while also secretly finding it hopelessly endearing and also kind of scary because WHAT IF THE EJECT BUTTON DOESNT WORK ONE DAY. and then she offers to teach him how to drive and he focuses on it so hard that she's like 'damn. he's so cute.'.. or something. idk.

And while I do agree with you that Julia isn't the center of the universe, she's also the strongest and original link between Carmen and ACME, and by extension Chase. She is most definitely, at least at the point the series leaves off on, closer with Carmen than any non-Team Red character, much rather any ACME agent. Especially right after the finale, Chase would most likely be the third wheel to Julia and Carmen's homoerotic friendship, which would probably be where any relationship between the two of them would build, platonic or otherwise.

Most of my gripe with Carchase actually getting together, is that I don't think they could get to a place of romantic interest in each other. Right around the same time Chase starts showing what could be interpreted as feelings for Carmen, he also starts showing something similar towards Julia, and I don't think that they were ever meant to be romantic. he mentions them being "one big happy family" at some point, referencing her getting back with ACME and him getting to be her partner, and his improved relationship with her felt much more platonic than anything else to me.

My interpretation of their relationship post-Julia kidnapping is that he was in awe of both Carmen and Julia's competence and smarts because he realized Carmen wasn't with VILE, and Julia was right about her all along. This kickstarted his admiration of Julia, and Carmen being Carmen and seemingly effortlessly confident even when (in my world at least) she isn't, he quickly grew to respect and appreciate her brains. The doylist reason is most likely that it was a pretty quick redemption arc addressing his borderline misogynistic treatment of Julia at the start of the series, but on the watsonian side, added depth to his character in that he was shown to be able to grow as a person and accept when he was wrong.

For the purposes of my headcanon post, I mainly meant that they tend to hate on each other recreationally. A kind of 'I'm friends with this guy but I'm not sure WHY bc s/he's a loser (affectionate)' vibe. They get along pretty well and don't cut contact post-finale, but they also don't ever a romantic attraction to each other. AKA, they end up as each others homeboys.

While I think the scenario you pointed out as the start of Carmen and Chase's relationship is a possibility, I don't think it's the most supported one. Carmen has historically been endlessly exasperated with Chase showing up and forcing her to rework her plans, and I don't think one caper team up would change that. Not only that, but Julia being kidnapped was a sudden turn around. Julia is someone Carmen has put in danger of VILE, as well as a close friend that isn't on Team Red, so she wouldn't know how to stay safe in this situation and Carmen knew it. It was an emotionally fraught time for her, and I believe that when she asked Chase if he wanted the whole story, she'd meant it more as a challenge than anything. She also went back on it immediately after, as soon as he 'called her bluff', because she wasn't expecting him to try it. From what she's seen of him so far, she'd expected that he'd see it as her trying to sow seeds of doubt into the facts he believed: Carmen was a bad guy, and he had to catch her.

I definitely enjoyed reading your opinion though!! you're right, they're both very interesting people, and their relationship is just as fascinating if not even more so. At the end of the day, one of my favorite things about Carmen Sandiego as a show is that it introduces all these different love interests for Carmen, and then canonizes exactly none of them. It leaves all these different pathways for Carmen to take, whether it be in romantic relationships or otherwise, and we as the fans are given the opportunity to get silly with it!! Your scenario is just as valid as mine, and I'd honestly love to hear more about it <33

[disfordevineaux]

Brooooo HOWW many times are we collectively going to have to suffer through this nightmare of a discourse before it's finally understood by everyone?

No ship in CS is canon

There is no 'evidence' to support one, or one over the other

Any post or pre show interviews with ANYONE who worked on the show are just people talking about a project they once worked on. What they say means nothing either way 'for' or 'against', its all just for fun.

And the show is not in any way shape or form about romantic entanglements and or relationships.

How many times does this need to be said i'm literally banging my head on the walls, tearing at my curtains in anguish as I scream into the abyss.

Why are people fighting and creating mass spaces of general debauchery once again about who is 'right', 'wrong', 'justified' or 'unjustified'.

Nothing is canon, no ship is canon, sorry but that's life, that's the show. What do you think fanfiction is for?

[7origamisheep]

Can you do Julia and Paper Star first meeting? Like how would they react and what would they say?

I don’t think they would get along tbh, paper star would be irritated by her and julia wouldnt like her nonchalance about cruelty and intentionally vague answers

I suck so bad at drawing julia I know I apologise