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darth-jess · 9 months ago
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“If you’re not with me, then you’re my enemy.”
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
I think it’s become kind of a Star Wars joke when Obi-wan replies to Anakin, “only a Sith deals in absolutes” because Obi-wan is making an absolute by saying "only." However, I honestly don't think this was a mistake. I think this line was very intentional, and I think George Lucas knew exactly what he was doing with this line.
I think Obi-wan's statement shows how far the Jedi have fallen from what they were meant to be.
In 25,800 BBY and before, the Jedi recognized the light and the dark within themselves, and life was a constant balancing act between the two parts of themselves. In Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void by Tim Lebbon, we see Lanoree (a Je'daii Ranger) even acknowledge the darkness in herself, and struggle to balance it with the light. She does not fight against her darkness, she does not even try to expel it from herself, she accepts it as an important part of her life, she just cannot let it control her.
This novel takes place long before there were Sith (the religious order, not the species) and I'm not sure but I feel like the Sith just existing really shifted Jedi priorities.
I think because the Sith chose Dark over Light, the Jedi began to choose Light over Dark, instead of balance. They still preached about balance in the Force, but I'm not sure they truly understood what that meant.
Even Master Yoda does not understand this until he meets the Five Priestesses and they put him through a trial to face his darkness (Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Season 6, Episode 12: Destiny) and he literally goes in like a warrior, expecting to FIGHT his darkness. He tells Dark Yoda, "Part of me, you are not!"
But Dark Yoda replies, "Part of you, I am. Part of all that lives!"
And Yoda is nearly defeated by his own darkness, simply because he continues to deny its existence.
Finally, Yoda says, "Recognize you, I do. Part of me, you are. Yes. But power over me, you have not." And he is finally able to reject his Dark Side, choosing not to give into it. He rejects it, but he does still recognize it as his own.
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The fact that even Master Yoda did not at first recognize his own darkness, did not even acknowledge its existence, is a serious flaw in the Jedi Order of that time. The Jedi were so blinded because they refused to see the darkness even within themselves, and so were blinded to see the darkness that rotted at the heart of the Republic.
And so, when Obi-wan says, "Only a Sith deals in absolutes," he is, completely on accident, also revealing the flaw in Jedi thinking, the flaw that ends up destroying the Jedi. A Sith should be the only one dealing in absolutes, but the Jedi have begun to deal in absolutes as well. In denying their own darkness, in only recognizing the Light, they blind themselves, just as the Sith blind themselves with the Dark.
Btw… this is not an anti Jedi post, this is just an observation of one of the flaws of the Order.
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emperornihilus44 · 7 months ago
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betterboxd · 1 year ago
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Beau Willimon (ANDOR) will co-write James Mangold's Dawn of the Jedi Star Wars movie.
• Follows the origins of the Jedi
• Set 25,000 years in the past
(via THR)
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Continuing Dawn of the Jedi with Volume 2: Prisoner of Bogan! Feat. bad photo of ashla and bogan donut holes, lol
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inquisitor-apologist · 1 year ago
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The Je’daii dumb as shit tbh. Oh, we see you’ve fallen to the Dark Side. Sad. We will now send you to Evil Dark Side Moon, where it is always dark, you are completely isolated, and the only other people on the moon have also Fallen. This will bring you back to the light somehow. Our civilization has remained in perfect balance for 10,000 years.
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mrfandomwars · 1 year ago
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If the dawn of the jedi movie doesn't have a running gag where the founder is constantly correcting non-jedi on the meaning of attachment, is it even worth it?
On that note, they should DEFINITELY meet someone who supports them to make the Order who either suspiciously looks like George Lucas (if it isn't him - though lbh, I think he would probably only do a cameo in the final, maybe as a maintenance worker looking at the new temple or something) or has a name REALLY similar (Jor'ge Luke or something), as a nod to the man who started this all
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highassho · 1 year ago
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theyre all so pretty what ????
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archivist-annemi · 1 year ago
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Got my hands on a really battered old copy of Star Wars Insider 141 mainly because it contains a printing of Eruption, the oldest tale in the old Star Wars Legends canon. To clarify: chronologically the oldest. It was published in 2013, after Disney acquired Star Wars, but before the mouse started their own new canon.
I should note that it’s not necessary to find this copy of Insider if you want to read it, since the short story Eruption was also reprinted in Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void as well as being included in the audiobook. But it was only a few bucks and it has illustrations.
As much as I am an enjoyer of KotOR era Star Wars, I haven’t really forayed into this time period of Legends canon. Dawn of the Jedi (DotJ era?) takes place more than TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND years before the OT (specifically 25,793 BBY). That’s… a huge amount of time. Sure, on the grand, cosmic scale it’s just a blip, but on a human scale? 25000 years ago is considered pre-history in real life. That’s about the age of the oldest permanent human settlement we’ve found so far.
A long, long, very fuckin’ long time ago in a galaxy far, far away….
This little short story by John Ostrander showcases two ancient Jedi (or Je’daii as they were called at the time), Lanoree Brock and Hawk Ryo. The story is short and sweet and details the rescue of a hostage and the early work of Jedi as negotiators. It ends with Lanoree being recalled to Tython, the home planet of the Je’daii order, for a special mission. I assume this is the lead-in for Into the Void, which is next up on my reading list.
A little fun fact for you: Hawk Ryo (a blue Twi’lek man) is officially the first character and first Jedi mentioned in the Legends canon if you are reading chronologically. His name is the first word of the first sentence of the story.
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fellthemarvelous · 1 year ago
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So since they are making a Dawn of the Jedi movie that's set 25,000 years in the past, does this mean we are going to be seeing baby Huyang in the early days of the Jedi Order??
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David Tennant's contract with Star Wars can essentially last forever since his droid has 25,000 years of Jedi history to cover.
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He's going to have a lot of stories to tell while he's stranded in another galaxy far, far away with Ahsoka, Sabine, and a tribe of pacifist turtles who spent the past ten years with Ezra Bridger.
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reyturnofbensolo · 2 years ago
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"Now I’m what’s called chief creative officer of Lucasfilm," Filoni tells Vanity Fair, which places him into the development process much earlier and in a much more expansive capacity than his previous advisory duties. He described his responsibilities as understanding the intent of the filmmakers and being a resource to them, based on his mentorship under Lucas himself, and his years spent steering The Clone Wars, Rebels, and Ahsoka.
I think Filoni will be AMAZING in this capacity(I realize this could tots blow up in my face btw but I think he will be good bts)! D/LF should’ve had him in this position years ago(I’m looking at you TROS)!! Make George proud my man(give us some dang midi-chlorians)!!!
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Filoni will continue developing his film, as well as exploring a possible second season of Ahsoka, while serving in his new position.
Excited about his movie, the possibility of more Ahsoka(writer’s room please), and Dave really getting in there and making good decisions for Star Wars…YES! YES!! YES!!!
"You know me, I plan for a long game. I really do. And that encompasses a lot more than it used to, as I help other people as well," he says.
Now bring back Ben Solo and Rian Johnson!!!🙏
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@TheDinkumReylo
"I know the storyline for one film. That's not to say that that's all it is, but that's what I was told about. And I imagine it will be the next film, I think. I mean, again, I don't know, post strikes and everything, how quickly everything will start up again. But yes, so far, I know the story of one film and I think people will be very excited."
I love Rey! Give her the story she deserves!! She needs a happy ending please!!!
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d3adlybunn1s · 1 month ago
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Been wanting somewhere to talk about force hounds or go more in depth and explain the fucked up shit they have to go through so here it is. Reading dawn of the Jedi and going through Xeshs story made me go crazy !!!
Force Hounds are Force-sensitive individuals who are enslaved and exploited to serve the dark side of the Force. They are subjected to brutal “training” and psychological torture to groom them into servants of the dark side.
Their training was not training but life long ritualistic breaking.
They are made to live a life surrounded by death and taught not just to be wielders of it, but become it. All for their Rakatan masters. Overseers force these individuals to duel to the death, where failure often means execution or being maimed, scarred, or disfigured. They are compelled to kill siblings, loved ones, or anyone they grow close to. Showing no mercy or emotional attachment is not only expected but rewarded heavily by the overseers.
They were shackled in both body and mind, leaving no room to grow outside of the Rakatan masters will. Any strand of humanity shown in these individuals were severed and ripped out of the ForceHounds.
Rakatan overseers also perform agonizing dark side rituals on the Force Hounds. During these rituals, they invade and violate the Hound’s mind, forcing them to relive traumatic memories and even implanting false ones. These beings are shaped into emotionless and ruthless killers.
All of this is done to completely shatter their sense of self—to break them beyond repair and seize absolute control over them. In the end, they are reduced to weapons remorseless, obedient, and loyal only to the Rakata.
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darth-jess · 8 months ago
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I love this little scene from the Star Wars Legends Epic Collection Volume 1: Dawn of the Jedi: Force Storm #1.
For context, the Je’daii Master has just told these younglings the history of Queen Hadiya, who began the Despot War against the Je’daii. But she ultimately failed twelve years ago (from the standpoint of this scene) and was killed and the war ended.
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The way the Je'daii Master handles the situation is so different from what we would expect of the Jedi of later generations.
The Jedi of later generations would tell their students to let go of their anger and their hatred, that these are trappings of the Dark Side. However, the ancient Je'daii Order of 25,800(ish) BBY champion balance above all else, and so they recognize that hatred and anger are a natural part of being alive. They are not dangerous emotions, so long as you do not let these emotions consume you.
"To understand Hadiya, I must find where she lives in my heart, how I am like her."
Also, I absolutely love this quote which so beautifully displays the radical compassion of the Je'daii.
You can buy Star Wars Legends Epic Collection Volume 1 here on iBooks if you have an Apple device, that’s where I got it. I could only find it for over $200 on Amazon so this is the best I got. I'm sure you could find it on eBay though?
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tobyig · 2 months ago
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Lanoree (Dawn of the Jedi): I hate killing people, they have friends and family and dreams that I have ripped from then
Also Lanoree: I cut off their hands and arms and legs and head and then shot them for fun as well
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domonicriley · 6 months ago
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Hello there! I am alive!
Health issues kicked my butt last year, hence my not updating (or continuing) this challenge in a really disappointingly long time. But, the fog seems to be clearing, and I am once again able to focus on things I enjoy, so I am very happy to get back into this.
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Entries 7 - 10 of my Star Wars Legends challenge are Dawn of the Jedi: Force Storm issues #2 - 5, written by John Ostrander and art by Jan Duursema, Dan Parsons, and Wes Dzioba. All four issues take place in 25,793 BBY, and were released in 2012.
Thoughts and images beneath the cut so as not to flood your feed.
Issue #2 introduces (who I assume will be) our main cast of characters from here on out - Shae Koda, Tasha Ryo, and Sek'nos Rath, all three Je'daii Journeyers from Tython.
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Is it just me or do all three of them have maaaaaajor OT3 energy. I desperately need to see the three of them… er, kriff. And as I am assuming this is not going to happen on page, I WILL be turning to AO3 when I am done reading this series and y'all had better not let me down.
Willing to extend that to OT4 and let Xesh in on the kriffing as well.
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(This part of the post is not getting posted on instagram xD for the most part what I post there and post here will be the same but people I know follow me on instagram xD containing the horny posting to tumblr for now bc I am not brave enough to… the mixed metaphor that popped into my head was "put my pussy where my mouth is" but that sounds like a physical impossibility and now I've gotten confused and distracted.)
Aaaaaaanyway.
Sexual tension between Shae, Tasha, and Sek'nos is palpable. All three having a tense force vision about a mysterious, dangerous bad boy dark force user? I am restraining myself from looking on Ao3 until I've finished reading this arc to avoid spoilers, but y'all I am going to be so kriffing mad if you disappoint me on the fic front. PLEASE tell me there is fic here. I DON'T want to be the one who has to write it.
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For the most part, I am engaged with the three (four if you count Xesh) main characters. Their dynamic is engaging (yes, beyond just sexy lmao) and each of them are interesting on their own as well. I am looking forward to seeing them continue to develop over the course of the series.
Then, let's see. Things that annoyed me...
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Boob armor is always annoying. Jedi Emma Frost has some incredible shoulder armor but the boob top is sigh. She must be using the Force to keep her titties from shooting out the gaping hole in her shirt. Like. I love good cleavage as much as the next bisexual, but c'mon, man.
On the other end for costumes that make me happy, I'm in love with Tasha's look. It is one of the few not over-the-top sexualized twi'lek costumes I can think of, and that is a breath of fresh air on top of just being a really cool skirt that I would absolutely wear.
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I think that's it for now. Hope to read more of the series this week and will continue to update as I go! I might start posting reactions as I read here? Not sure yet. Sometimes it can be fun but sometimes it can distract from the actual reading xD
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bloggingtheouterrim · 7 months ago
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James Mangold Promises Something Original For Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi!
For those out of the loop, James Mangold, the esteemed director of films like The Wolverine, Logan, and Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, has long been attached to head up a Star Wars project since the post-sequel trilogy era. However, updates on Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi have been few and far between. The radio silence has sparked speculation among fans, with some fearing the project…
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