#ghost in the shell: innocence

[sonjackcarl]

[drbatsponge]

I just had one of the best nights of my life.

I unfortunately couldn't make it for the dub, but I think watching the sub is probably the way it was meant to be seen, so I'm satisfied nonetheless. :)

[deusexdeathless]

[omercifulheaves]

Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence (2004) 20th Anniversary re-release poster

[lasaraconor]

[anhed-nia]

I like the Hans Bellmer stuff, even though it qualifies as super pretentious.

What were your thoughts on Ghost in the Shell 2?

Thanks for asking! My main reaction to INNOCENCE is that it's extremely cluttered. The snowballing mass of literary citations is interesting at first, and then it becomes so dense and relentless that it just started to feel haughty and I worried that it was taking the place of actual writing. It added extra stress to my already-paltry ability to keep track of what was going on in the movie; I had the feeling that the story wasn't as profound as the first film, and Oshii made up for lack of depth by just making everything really complicated. Overall I found it ambitious but sort of pretentious.

I had a similar problem with it visually, like some of it is absolutely stunning, and then at some point it just becomes cluttered with so much detail that no distinct visual statement emerges. I think sometimes the desire to throw absolutely everything at the wall interferes with the movie's ability to articulate itself: Like, that CGI convenience store obviously took a lot of work, but it is so starkly different from everything around it that all I could think about was the craft and I was taken out of the story; or the parade looks great, but then there are those seagulls that are so cheap-looking I wondered if I was still watching the same movie.

I didn't hate it, though. I would say that I actually LOVED the first 30-40 minutes of it. The scene with Haraway was one of my favorites out of either movie, and I enjoyed the proof that Batou is charismatic enough to carry his own feature even though Motoko really dominates GITS iconographically and Oshii must have known that we would all be wondering if she would appear the whole time. I basically enjoyed INNOCENCE and I'm really glad I saw it in a theater, even if in the end I think it shoots itself in the foot by being overburdened with details, references, and various other complications.

When we got home we watched AVALON which I hadn't seen in a really long time. It's such a weird movie; for something that's partly an action film it's incredibly static, and it suffers from a this brooding silliness, but it takes itself so seriously that I kind of have to admire it, like there's just no self-doubt in it. I guess I sort of like it even though I would have a hard time saying it's really "good". And sometimes it's beautiful, naturally the dog-feeding scenes are the best thing in the whole picture. What is even going on with Oshii, I think he would turn into one of those dogs if he could.

[shesincrediblemath]

Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence - After the Long Goodbye (Masaki Yamada, 2004)

"The hulking cyborg counterterrorist, Batou, doesn't have a family; his electronic brain never dreams. So why did he dream the other night--and dream that he has a son?

At one time, Batou had a human love for his partner, the legendary Major, before he witnessed her transfiguration into something beyond humanity. Now he has only his job, and his beloved basset hound, Gabriel. But when Batou has a near-death experience in an arranged car "accident", he returns home to find Gabriel has gone missing--perhaps, to go look for her owner's lost soul.

Batou's desperate search for Gabriel leads him down surreal streets where homeless men fight tanks and yakuza racing hounds chase rabbits downloaded into their heads. Batou fears his poor dog has made a horrible mistake out of innocence--for Batou has taken a cold look inside himself... and decided that he never truly had a soul..."

[kinghijinx22]

YOOO they put out a poster for the new Ghost in the Shell adaption and it looks so good!

Beautiful art style that is the most faithful to the original GITS manga that any animated adaption as ever looked. I'm super excited to see an animated GITS that actually keeps the tone from the manga which, is still serious when it needs to be and has complicated sci fi stuff but is also, and often very silly.

The Major's new design is so badass and is the most that she's ever looked like her original manga self as well. Her outfit is so cool, she has the classic hair but it's a lighter blue, and a very interesting aspect of her design is her arm being the most visibly robotic she's ever looked outside of seeing her body being built or when her arms get ripped off in every adaption, like she's usually all covered skin and stuff. Also one other thing to point out, of course it's the red Fuchikoma in the background from the original manga, and not the blue Tachikoma from SAC.

For the sake of comparison, every version of the Major-

Her design in the new poster looks especially how she looks with this outfit from the manga-

The black armor is pretty similar which, full combat gear Major is always the best in every version but the long coat over it and the visible robot arm just makes it even more badass. Very excited for this new, more manga accurate adaption of Ghost in the Shell. Seeing what is pretty much the manga Major actually being animated is going to be really cool too, and looking forward to seeing her sillier side actually being adapted. Also hoping that she's still an explicitly polyamorous bisexual with infinite rizz and that her girlfriends make an appearance, I mean they did in Stand Alone Complex as well.

The whole art style looking very 80s/90s is so good and very unique for something released today. Keeping that 80s flair but with a modern polish, going by this poster looks so fucking cool and I'm excited to see it animated.

[luketaluketa]

was watching the commentary track for gits 2 innocence and anytime batou's dog shows up the conversation shifts to be entirely about the dog

[illin-villain]

[sonjackcarl]

[crashhole]

Just saw this with the boyfriend at the Gateway. Fantastic! Super psychedelic and hyper esoteric, just the way I like it. With Batou in the lead this time, it felt like Blade Runner starring the Terminator with hints of the Matrix. I found the experimental art style especially captivating, like tripping balls on a Playstation. With such a heavy emphasis on the uncanny valley in the story, the medium immaculately matches the message. Even when the cgi doesn’t look great, it’s always engaging. I also found the mirrored parallels to the first movie fascinating. While the antagonist of both films is a barely mobile conscious automaton, the Puppet Master was a digital consciousness who aspired to ascend and becoming “more than”, while the villain in this story was a human consciousness invested in becoming a doll, or otherwise “less than”. Two completely opposite approaches in achieving perfection: to become all things, or nothing at all.

[silvadour]

[scenesandscreens]

Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence (2004)

Director - Mamoru Oshii, Cinematography - Miki Sakuma

"There's loyalty that protects secrets and loyalty that projects the truth. You cannot serve both masters, so which loyalty is yours?"

[zuhazavr]

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ghost in the shell innocent 2004

Angel's Egg

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Appleseed

Evangelion

Blood: the last vampire

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Memories

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[ultimateanna]

Album name: Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence - OST  (2004)

Song name: The Ballade Of Puppets The Ghost Awaits In The World Beyond