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#analog collective#- 🚬 & 👻 & 🎸#its a bur party#and TO PREFACE;#yes we have a... cc! factive#that DOES NOT mean we support his actions or abusers in general#i dont know how or why but you know how it goes with introjection#but even so we are being KIND to him. yeah?#dsmp fictive#revivebur#ghostbur#cc!wilbur#<- PLS DONT COME FOR ME-#i will not make a statement concerning our stance on wss/sss
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i dont really know anything abt systems and i am not one myself
i was under the assumption that the . formation??? of a system can only occur due to childhood trauma but past that point anything goes.
that's probably wrong but idk where to get actual information on this bc i genuinely know nothing
Welcome to systemhood which is the most under-researched thing ever. It can be formed in many different was, most commonly from childhood trauma. Due to how under researched systems are, it’s certainly difficult to find info of them. Your best bet is just learning from systems themselves and their personal experiences. It’s different for ALL systems, so you cant rely solely on One (1) system to tell you the info. I’ll share what I know though!!
I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL IN ANY WAY AT ALL, I AM JUST SHARING KNOWLEDGE IVE BEEN GIVEN THROUGHOUT THE SPAN OF FIVE YEARS OF RESEARCHING AND LEARNING!!! Anyone (in GOOD FAITH) is free to correct me if i say anything wrong. I am on mobile (and only just woke up) so i cant provide real evidence as im speaking
(Didn’t expect to say so much but i did to the point i need a Read More bracket OOPS lmao)
The most well known systems as of now are CDD (complex dissociative disorder) systems, such as DID (dissociative identity disorder), OSDD (other specified identity disorder) and one other i cannot remember the name for. These ones are frequently (NOT ALWAYS) formed from trauma, typically at a young age and often repetitive or severe
At a very young age, your brain is often split in several parts as it is developing. Often why children tend to switch moods very quickly. As you grow up, your brain slowly pieces itself together into your true personality, however, trauma can cause your brain to remain fragmented, leaving those fragments into being parts/alters/headmates. This is a coping mechanism created by the brain so certain parts can handle unsafe situations
Aside from CDDs, there’s two terms, traumagenic and endogenic. Traumagenic is self explanatory and CDDs will typically fall under there. Endogenic is a umbrella term of MANY formations of systemhod. Spiritual, natural (it just happened some day), willogenic (willed into existence on purpose) and so much more. Some can be both, traumaendo, mixed-origin etc! CDDs can even be endogenic in some way too :]
You can have a trauma formed system, but also have willogenic headmates! You can have a naturally formed system, but also have trauma formed headmates! Hell, some systems will not even know their origin and that’s okay!!!! You do not need a label for your system!!
Both terms were coined by a traumagenic system i believe??? Who is also pro-endogenic, so anyone who is antiendo using those terms, do remember that (:3
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Alters/headmates/parts can be different just as much as systems can be. Some can just be emotional states, some can be voices, some can be fragments, some can be completely unique and (mostly) complete individuals. Even in one system alone, alters can differ between all of these! Some systems can only have 2 headmates, some have some between 10-30, some can have 100+, some can even have 1000+
There are also alters that are called introjects, who are formed from a certain someone/something (very often out of their control). They can be a factive (formed from a real life person), fictive (formed from a fictional character), songtive (formed from a song) and soooo much more!!! Some can even be mixed, some can have more than one source!
A common misconception is that introjects will form from comforting sources, or sources the system holds really closely, but quite a lot of systems actually have introjects from things they hate, or hell, are even triggered by. Introjects are very often formed from things they dont want to be formed from, and do not act the exact same way as their sources
Proof? We have a fictive of a shapeshifter from an among us series. Source is a heartless and evil killer who manipulates people. Our fictive though? Genuine sweetheart, often shy and anxious but loves her sourcemates so very much! Hell, Juli (💎) is with me right now and is a good example. Her source (julian arcane odyssey) is a genuine asshole with extremely high ego and brags to hell and back about his accomplishments. Juli here is just a girl trying to live and play games while being silly with her QPP and her friends!
That being said though, some introjects WILL act almost exactly like their sources, and this is okay!!! Even those split from absolute asshole of a person. Systemhood is often a part of healing, and that includes from individual headmates too. Recovery is different for all headmates and systems and it’s best to let them figure out how they should handle their struggles and the such
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Systemhood is extremely complex, it differs from system to system, and headmate to headmate. Some prefer plural or collective, some prefer parts, headmates, alters, personalities. Some CDDs will even prefer MPD (multiple personality disorder) [known to being an outdated term] instead of DID or OSDD and that’s okay!!
Everyone will have divided opinions over how systemhood works, but the MOST IMPORTANT thing to understand is, it’s NEVER black and white, there will ALWAYS be nuance, and honestly my #1 thing to remember is: if it’s in good faith, live and let live
Sharing terminology isn’t stealing. Sharing resources isn’t stealing. It’s called SHARING, and everyone deserves resources that can help understand themselves better and live an easier and better life. It’s good to interact with a diverse amount of systems, to share different perspectives, to understand each other, and show compassion and support for one another
It’s why, while i can understand many systems wishing for seperate spaces, it’s also good to share some spaces once a while. You don’t HAVE TO be in shared spaces, but i feel as though it will genuinely help in the long run. But as always, live and let live, and do what you feel is safe for you so long as it’s not harming anyone else
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With that aside, we ourselves are an OSDD-1b system! While we’re not safe sharing our trauma, i (💛aristris) am one of the trauma holders for some of our worst years of our life. While many CDDs typically experience memory amnesia/barriers, we don’t. Instead, memory is perceived differently from headmate to headmate. Many will remember my trauma more vaguely, fuzzy or blurry (but still remember them happening), while I can remember it clear as day, almost as though it only happened last week.
We often experience emotional amnesia more. One fronter will be absolutely pissed off upset, another fronter takes over while they cool off and can be the chillest and sweetest person ever. We tend to act really “mood swingy” because of this, especially when unmasked
We’ve recently surpassed 100 headmates lately, and we’re incredibly diverse in terms of such. Majority of us are mostly formed, though some are still fragmented or hard to see/communicate with. We’ve grown to enjoy each others’ company, though we still have a few bad apples we have to keep an eye on
Our fronting style can actually differ and never sticks to one method. Sometimes it feels like the clap of a hand switch, sometimes we meld into each other a bit before one takes over, very often we can see each other in frontspace and take turns (though that often causes a headache)
We have like two outer brainspaces. One’s our headspace which consists of a copy of the Upturned Inn from The Upturned and a pretty forest beside it, and the other is… the void. But we dont talk about that!!!
Our headspace memories actually tend to be really vague upon joining front. Some remember headspace memories better than others. And sometimes front memories can get really blurred upon joining. Our headmates have to wait quite a bit for our memory to relog and catch up with us, hah
We’ve known about systems for five whole years now, and two and a half of those years, we denied ourselves ENTIRELY. We were constantly surrounded by gatekeepy systems who were antiendo and would lose their shit over a system having even a Slightly Different experience than they do. Hell, weve seen COUNTLESS CALLOUT POSTS just for suspected sysfaking. It was a dangerous space for us and because of it, we refused to ever accept the idea we were a system
After all that time, we met who is now our partner system, the Lucky Clover Collective, who were the first ever pro-endo traumagenic (or mixed origin) system we ever met. We got to comfortably discuss systemhood, including endogenic systems, and they gave us the space we needed to at least give systemhood a go. In almost 2 weeks, it will be the first year anniversary of when we finally embraced our systemhood!!
Systemhood has a hell lot of struggles. Trauma relapses, headaches, difficult headmates, emotional disregulation, but we’d never trade our systemhood for anything in the world. This system has saved us so many times, made us feel safer and embrace ourselves for who we are easier. I used to hate everyone here, being a former persecutor, but ive learnt to love my headmates as much as they love me and i couldnt be happier with how we grew finally embracing systemhood
… i hope all thats shares enough!! haha, sorry i yapped so much, i think i may have gotten overly passionate, hah. I hope you can learn from this and from many others too, and most importantly, take care of yourself!!! Thanks for reading lol
#💛💎#endo safe#plural#actually plural#plural community#pluralgang#plurality#plural stuff#plural system
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HIII! What are your thoughts after catching up to source . that was a lot haha
I don't exactly know how to send the ask from my own blog so I will just go anonymous hope you don't mind !
- a Ralsei introject
Hey !!! yeah thats ok you actually cant send asks from your own blogs. only primary blogs can do that unfortunately. tale as old as time
but DAMN i dont onow how ill ever be able to SAY what I wanna say- or everything i wanna SAY!!!
THEYRE ALL JUST RANDOM. Like for example
Chapter 3 is really fun and awesome but as someone whos replayed DR completely a couple times i actually dont know if id ever fully-replay Ch3. Thats why im REALLY glad that im content and satisfied with my conpletion file. i got the egg AND moss. Though im also saying i dont know if i can ever replay it—is because id have to fight the roaring knight again and want to WIN. Im good with just trying to beat her NOW and redo all of chapter 4 to be honest
Even with the crazy bosses id really replay chapter 4 the most out of the two newest chapters.girst of all its like…. a little easier than trying to keep track of 6537337 things in chapter 3 that you BARELY have save spots for. plus i missed a spot in Ch4 so id be happy to do it all over again
So you also may have noticed i she/her’d the roaring knight. Thats because i actually heavily headcanon her as Dess …….. so i cant swear at her because id feel bad but i pronoun her BAHAHA
i love ch 3 a lot though. But damn.
damn.
Chapter 4 is something else. If Chapter 3 takes a twist, chapter 4 takes a SHARP TURN. I think thats why i find it hard to forget compared to ch3– not that ch3 is forgettable?? but you cant…. top the SEVERAL reveals and lore drops. Like every time i think of chapter 3 i think about when i tell ralsei (hi) everythings gonna be alright. and then when you talk to him again theres blood. that shit goes hard but in the most shocking way. like what the fuck??? what the fuck??
God im so. Ralsei. dude. Ever since ch3-4 all our fictives have now since downloaded New Memories if that makes any sense so its like.. Yeah. but also oh my god the character work in ch3-4??? on all of us??? god i cant stop drawing this fluffball?? i have so many emotions and all of them are “i need to KILL THE PROPHECY!!!” and REALLY IN MY SOUL i just keep thinking YEAH OF COURSE I WOULDNT LET IT HAPPEN!!!! …. WHATEVER IT IS
#ask#ralsei#deltarune spoilers#deltarune#talking#IM GOING CRAZY!!!! i literally feel like that one video thats like SOMEBODY SEDATE ME!!!!!
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idk how accurate the first part of this post is entirely (actually it’s from 2021 so definitely not perfectly accurate anymore) but i like the questions. i think they are fun.
i appreciate specifying not needing to say origin. origin in the way most people think of it is unimportant in our eyes. to us it is more important to know how we are than why we are. Though I do believe that my headmates may have come from stress/needing help, and I unintentionally built them up over time. A mix of created and some other shit. Truly, however, I don’t think any of us can know for sure (life too complex for any single thing to have caused it), so i just say it’s quoigenic at most. and, for how we are: idk. too complex to explain and i have no clue what labels apply. I know we aren’t disordered. i think what we experience is typically labeled “coconsciousness” but also every switch that’s happened has been monoconscious.
About 5-6, including me. one is possibly no longer here or never really existed at all and i dont know what to make of it. and certainly more may come to exist
Not that long actually. I think it has only been a few months. But, thinking about it now with what I know, I think I have had headmates in the past, and I know sometimes my characters act like they are self-aware in my mind. They aren’t always though, not sure what exactly is up with that
when it comes to plurality it’s mostly maiacord (discord of maia arson crimew). too many others to say when including otherwise + the past
I knew of DID but nothing else. It was the only way I knew of plurality’s existence for most of my life
Not anymore. we used to but it turned into a simple black void over time. We don’t always speak while in “physical” (in headspace) forms, either. There may be some stuff that counts that I am either not remembering or havent put much stock into though. Bear kind of almost has a starry nighttime lake
Anything works but alter or part, really. i most often use “headmate” but i also tend to use “system member” (usually when describing myself though), “brain friends”, just “friends”, etc
skippin over 8 cuz i do call us a system
My headmates help a lot with bodily and mental health. The Eagle helps with executive function, Sputnik helps with self-deprecating thoughts and similar, Bear helps with my confidence, and The Nothing Beast has helped me with intrusive thoughts and runaway imaginary scenarios.
Communication is incredibly confusing and I wish it were easier. Sometimes also my headmates don’t like things that I like to do, and while honestly this is not often an issue (because they aren’t always there), they can’t seem to like, go back into the void for a while to skip it, so we get a little stuck
Varies. Personally I don’t think it can be anything but psychological, but Sputnik as an introject (or whatever you wanna call it) feels the same as the actual satellite in a way that kinda goes against a psychological view. And Bear is solidly spiritual, Bear believes that Bear is itself a spirit. I don’t know anyone else’s opinion or if they even have one.
Nobody seems that able to front but me, either it just doesn’t seem to work, anxiety + rejection sensitive dysphoria takes hold and I fight too hard, or the headmate gets really confused and upset (because everyone else is solidly nonhuman and struggles to deal with a human body plan and human functions). The first one seems to be the most common thing. Only one person seemed able to switch alright and we have not really seen him very much since. If switching was a desire we had (for now everybody seems pretty okay with what we have. there havent been many times where my headmates desired to do something in the world of the meaty) then I think we would need a hell of a lot of work to deal with it. Also being monoconscious for switching means that there isnt like. a break. which is fun (sarcasm). Headmates instead usually just communicate through me, if they have anything to say. Also, instead of switching, we often tend to blob around and influence how im writing or what im thinking about even if they arent directly there. As an example, formality almost always brings a tinge of The Eagle.
The closest word we have is family, but it isnt totally accurate because we could definitely still have other kinds of relationships without it feeling awkward. Instead “family” more means that we unconditionally love each other and are very close.
Yeah. My mom seemed to take it well. My therapist immediately took out the DSM lol which freaked me out at first, but then i listened to her and thought about it and realized it seemed to be largely just cuz she wanted to be sure that we were not struggling in the ways it described. We also are out to our online friends and boyfriend, and it went perfectly fine. Honestly I am infinitely more worried about what other potentially plural people may think of us than any singlet, due to the stupid ass discourse among the community, and the obvious Dunning-Kruger effect that happens when people are of certain identities, but are clearly fundamentally uncurious. I can explain us to a person with little preconceived notion of what we should be. I cannot when a person believes they already know how we function by one single label.
What they are is important to what they are titled. Bear is a bear. The Eagle is an eagle (though with turquoise eyes, and snaggly little horns). Bat is a bat. Sputnik is the satellite. The only one who breaks this mold is The Nothing Beast but that’s just because nobody knows what that is supposed to be physically. Beastie is a dromaeosaurid-like black monster with white eyes and spikes down their spine. They actually took on the form of one of my characters, but they are not the same. They also can shapeshift, but I have not seen them change their basic form. mostly just stretching or making shapes or like, squash-and-stretching around.
question too big and vague 4 us sorry. the nothing beast likes old depictions of dinosaurs though. they just want that to be known
question too big and vague 4 us sorry
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Hi. im the host. ive been writing this the whole time lol. I play the role of guy who is stuck out here. I communicate what headmates wish to say, i gotta do something if they wanna do it, i am basically a communication device for them. I was also here before them.
Not really I don’t think, besides me. i got friends and a boyfriend
It hasn’t been long of course but I have noticed that being aware of my headmates and allowing them to help me has brought me a lot of comfort, and has helped me grow and learn what is possible for me. They do not trigger the same “fuck you, no” response in me that other meaty people telling me what to do has, which means I have done a lot more things I need to do. I care about them a lot. I think I would be more miserable if they weren’t here now.
I did not choose so i cant answer
Please. everybody has different experiences with plurality. be nice and keep an open mind. Black and white thinking will not help you now, even if it may have in the past, and you gotta do your best to work through it. I do not care who or what you are when i say this. Non-disordered folks should respect when disordered folks speak about their own shit, and disordered and traumagenic folks should respect when non disordered and non traumagenic folks talk about their shit. We are different. That is okay! We do not need to have the same experiences to both be going through something real.
Don’t do “well my DID friend is like this and tells me this so i know everything/you are wrong/faking” for the love of god. For one not every plural is DID (i mean, of course, cuz OSDD). For another, we know ourselves better than you do, especially because you do not experience anything even close to as intense. In general, please be open to new things and people and experiences. It is healthier for you and you will learn more about the world! And muah muah thank you singlets who are supportive and do their best to listen to us, i love you.
Sysmeds should not get to write the narrative about us on this platform!
Scrolling through the tags, it seems like a great deal of what's said about us on tumblr is either sysmeds trying to make us look bad or all-encompassing plural blogs that just say everyone is valid (which is great! and these blogs should keep doing what they're doing! but it would be nice to have some more frequent endo (and other) representation on here too!)
Either my tumblr algorithm just sucks major balls, or most endos, tulpas, spiritual systems and other non-sysmed-approved systems get scared off of this platform because of how many loud hateful voices there are compared to how few people there are who we can relate to. (like most of the cool-looking accounts i can relate to that i find are dead and so is my blog for the same reason lol).
SO! Let's do a thing. If you are endogenic, parogenic, a tulpamancy system, a spiritual system, a daemien, or any other kind of system that sysmeds try to silence, reblog this post with answers to these questions to tell tumblr what our lived experiences as plurals are REALLY like!
(Feel free to pick and choose which questions you want to answer, or just come up with your own and tag them under #endovoices or substitute endo for whatever kind of system you are! Also, feel free to just reblog with one answer at a time, or to just answer the questions in a standalone post; no need to credit me, I just want more systems sharing their experiences!)
1. What kind of system are you? (Describe this in any way you like. No need to use -genic or popular terms if you don't want to)
2. How many of you are there?
3. How long have you known about your plurality?
4. What kind of spaces/communities do you/did you hang out in? (Both plural-relevant and non-plural-relevant spaces are valid answers, past and present)
5. Had you heard of DID/OSDD/DDNOS before you became plural/discovered your plurality?
6. Do you have a wonderland/innerworld? If so, what do you call it, and what are some things that you and your system members do there?
7. What do you call your system members?
8. If you're plural but don't use the word "system" to describe you&, what word do you use?
9. What are some of the best things about being plural?
10. What are some of the not-so-great things about being plural? (Any answer is valid- nothing is too minor or too major to be an answer to this question.)
11. Do you have a spiritual or psychological view of your plurality?
12. Do you ever experience "switching" or "posession" or any sort of change in who controls the body? If so, what do you call it, how easy/difficult is it, and what is it like? Were you always able to do this, or did you have to learn how over time?
13. How do you and your system mates relate to each other? (Are you friends, family, romantically involved, caretakers, etc.)
14. Have you come out to anybody in real life/in a singlet space about your plurality? How did it go?
15. What kinds of forms and appearances do your system members take on?
16. What are you and your system members interested in?
17. What is your life like in the meatworld?
18. What are your music tastes? Movies? Favorite colors? Animals? List any other favorites as well
19. Does your system have a host/original? If so, what do you call them? Explain what role they play in your system
20. Do any system members have notable relationships outside of the system? Explain them!
21. If you haven't been plural for your entire life/haven't known about your plurality until later in life: what was life like before plurality compared to life now?
22. If you chose to become plural: why? What has changed since then?
23. Is there anything you'd like to say to the plural community at large?
24. Is there anything you'd like to say to any singlets reading this post?
That is all I've got for now, but feel free to add any more you want to share! Please remember to be respectful to all system types if you post, I do not support bashing or invalidating of any system types. I will also reblog with my own answers soon.
(Note: these questions are not in order of priority or importance, I just wrote them down as I came up with them. Feel free to answer out of order and skip or add whatever you want!)
Also this should go without saying but making any rude sysmeddy responses to this will just result in being blocked and totally ignored, so don't even start, there's no point. The block button is right there.
Have fun everyone!
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how do quiogenic systems exist??
you mean to tell me you dont know how your system formed? it formed from trauma, whether you remember said trauma or not. if you do not have trauma you cannot be a system
"there's nothing saying a system is formed only by trauma" there absolutely is, my friend. Yes, there are cases of systems existing when people don't remember their trauma, but they still have that trauma
a system is formed only before your brain has created a sense of wholeness or self. That can be at any age before the ages of 3-11. Those ages, especially when younger, may not be able to recall trauma, but it still had to have happened for a system to have even been formed
just because you don't remember your trauma doesnt mean you cant be a system, but claiming to not know how your system was created, to me, just seems like a way for endos to worm into real system safe spaces.
not remembering trauma is not the same as not knowing what happened. i knew i endured trauma of some kind long before i remembered what that trauma was. my brain couldnt handle not knowing and created alters to deal with everything for me
the point of alters is to deal with trauma. sometimes that means having alters made from media to cope or having alters based on your abuser to help you remember and cope. i have introject alters inspired by my abuser; yes that means these alters are abusive but i cant help it
i didnt make my alters by will; they were made for me. i have fictive alters based on characters from media i consumed when i was young to help me feel better about who i was and help me cope, i have little alters who are the age i was when i endured my trauma, etc.
youll notice these alters were all formed to help me cope and help me remember; that is the point of alters.
alters dont just form randomly unless trauma is brought back up; for instance, more alters of mine were formed during therapy for my trauma and in the cases of me remembering my trauma. This goes for othee systems with many alters as well
i feel like endos want to only roleplay these scenarios of having truama or friends and think its a fun thing to have- it isnt. my slters are not my friends and there is a scarce amount of them that i actually like. i only try to acknowledge those ones but i still have many
i also dont believe people who claim to have 100s of alters but dont remember their trauma; why did they form if you had scarce reason for them to?? anyway rant over i just absolutely despise people who want to have what i and many others have suffered with
#endogenic#traumagenic#quoigenic#tulpa system#system#syscourse#traumascum#sysmed#endo system#tulpa creation
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We just wanted to do this so..lol
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We currently have 28 Fictives and 1 factive
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Hmmm… this is a hard one, most of our introjects are actually pretty distinct from their source. Only a few get offended or touchy about being compared to it. Id say probably Gojo or Arthur.
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Powder and Tommy. Powders fine with her source, but Tommy is triggered by his.
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Its sometimes awkward? The source mates are sometimes really attached to their source and will try to relive moments from it. For some of our introjects they dont feel very attached to the source and it can be awkward to discuss it with other source mates.
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Zhongli? Since I guess hes like a couple thousand years old lmao.
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Lovely Sylvain from Fire Emblem 3 Houses <3
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This could be a long ass list…. Ill just let a few do it lmfao.
Powder: Enemy by Imagine Dragons, since its literally the opening song lol 🦐
Tommy: Carry on my wayward son by…someone
Tohma: That one song about the fireflies yk the like you would not believe your eyes yeah that one. I dont know why.
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Powder tbh. Shes one of the most social introjects so its easier for her to front in public a lot, and online.
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Zhongli is technically a god so i guess? Thats kinda it though.
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When I first met Kobeni i kind of thought she was annoying. She was very irritating, even though quiet. I eventually warmed up to her.
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Uzui will sometimes, but not really. Sylvain has been trying to front a lot lately also, and seeing fanart of himself is a trigger for him to. Self centered lil ginger smh 😟
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Tommy, Ganyu, Lon’qu, Yuri, Blue, Hosea, Shane, Trafalgar, and Takashi
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Idk what this means???
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Yes! We have a few from the Pokemon game franchise (Blue, Red, Piers) and some from Genshin Impact (Ganyu, Tohma, Zhongli, Kazuha, Kokomi, Gorou) ANDDDD fire emblem (Lon’qu, Claude, Sylvain, Yuri, Blyeth)
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They dont really care but it can be awkward
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Sometimes! Powder prefers bright colors and even makes her own clothes sometimes. But Tohma doesnt want to wear clothing similar to his sources and disrespect the culture, so he just wears clothes with the same color scheme! Also, Yuri hates the clothes his source wears so he just chooses whatever.
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They vary. Most of my alters who are non-introjects have more “important” roles. Almost all of our introjects are just ANP, and dont hold any special roles. But there is about…5? Maybe that have roles like caregiver/trauma holder/persecutor etc. It also depends on how long they’ve been apart of the system and know me.
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Nope!
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Uzui and Blyeth
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Powder, Gojo, and Simon definitely.
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Probably Tommy. He likes fronting, but since hes from a horror franchise he doesnt want to accidentally trigger someone.
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For a few yes. But not really.
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Very few. And ones who do know, our introjects with names that arent from the bodys culture/ethnicity usually use a nickname. We dont want to disrespect a culture or appropriate it. For example, my introject Takashi goes by TK when fronting IRL.
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Simon does our nail polish, Takashi is the best at picking out outfits, and Dallas is learning 3 intruments!
This took…so longg…. Anyways, hope this helps anyone lol
-🪴The Comet Moth System🪴
introject-heavy system ask meme
i’ve been wanting to make one of these for a while. this is specifically for introject-heavy systems because i know that we can struggle with feeling “fake” and i wanted to bring some positivity and fun to others like me. feel free to send some or reblog for your followers to do the same!
1. How many fictives do you have?
2. How many factives do you have?
3. Who is the most similar to their source?
4. Who is the most detached from their source?
5. How do your introjects feel about meeting sourcemates?
6. Who is the oldest introject?
7. Who is the newest introject?
8. Songs that remind your introjects of their source?
9. Which introject fronts the most?
10. Any non-human introjects?
11. Tell us your first impression of one of your introjects
12. Does seeing source related things trigger any of your introjects to front?
13. Any introjects that dislike their source? Why?
14. Any obscure introjects?
15. Do you have multiple introjects from the same source? How many?
16. How do your introjects feel about doubles?
17. Do your introjects’ sources influence their fashion taste?
18. What system role do your introjects have?
19. Do your introjects’ sources influence their taste in food?
20. Which introject fronts the least?
21. Who is the most outgoing introject?
22. Who is the shyest introject?
23. Do your introjects’ sources influence their music taste?
24. Does anyone irl know about your introjects?
25. free space! Give three random facts about an introject
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Fuck yeah lets go
1. What does that mean
It is based on a personality theory (?) called the Enneagram. Its a whole thing (link) (link)
And so/sx is instictual variants. Another whole thing (general overlook link) (so/sx link) (link).
2. How so? (Glad that you're curious even though you apparently dont know what Im talking about)
Havent seen the series in a long time but heres my take
Enneagram 6w5
He is obsessed with objectivity and solving a mystery/discovering a secret of some kind, which is typical 6 behaviour. Getting off on enigmas can be a 6 thing. 5 arent that much invested in objectivity, on the contrary, they want to get away from typically accepted rules of reasoning (which objectivity certainly is).
6 strive to be objective - that phrase about emotions being like an obstacle to CLEARLY SEE THE TRUTH. Those are all 6 key words (clarity, seeing, The truth), and speak of a tie with the Essential Quality of Truth, which is exactly that (seeing/feeling reality as something objective and foundational). Real life is not that crystalline clear though: and that's why 6s need to think think think to rejoin the stability of Truth again. (Doctor House is a 6w5 as well).
It's so funny that 6s are not considered cool within the ennea community when all of these fictional smartasses all have a very strong 6 component in them and everyone wants/wanted to be like them....
He goes around making all his decisions based on "what would be rational to do here?", indirectly doing that 6 thing of needing to Rely on something that is trustworthy outside of themselves (which in this case is the Rationality Goddess herself). "How can I make the case for myself if I dont prove I'm right through a shared framework of reality (that is, reason)?". All of this is very unconscious of course. Many 6s will actually think they can rely on their minds to navigate throug the world, but what they really mean is that they rely on objectivity, and that's why they need their minds to be impartial / free from any bias.
(Nobody cares but many great philosophers from the 17th-18th century were 6s. All of those treatises about the right way to use reason and achieve truth. The hyperbolic doubt in Descartes is something every 6 or even 6fix relates to way too deeply, and that's maybe part of the reason why it was so successful. Kant worked through that as well. Enlightenment movement was literally all about "the light of reason in the dark of night" which is a very typical 6 metaphor. Plus they were dead mad about the whole "authority culture" there was before, as 6s tend to be.)
SH being a 6 is especially clear in those scenes where he imagines himself in a court room with his own fucking brother judging him and suggesting him his next move. The court room setting / the debate thing is the most 6 thing imaginable, plus having strongly introjected figures from your childhood is typically attachment type. I guess other types may have that as well but not the point of basing their decisions around what that figure would say/do in their position.
6 is also the entire thing around proving you're right (and so/sx is also about looking cool while doing it) and prove someone else wrong. 5s seem to be surprised (or even disgusted?) when someone agrees with their views, while 6s unconsciously want others to view reality the same way they do, and that's why they strive to be objective, impersonal, and obviously, correct.
There's probably something else but that's what it came to me on the top of my head. SH is often typed as 5 (or 7 if you're a bit cooler) but that court room scene SCREAMS 6/attachment. Plus the culture around SH is very 6 tainted.
Oh yeah he's also quite reactive at random occasions, and he can be paranoid and feel like other people want to prove him wrong / question his skills
He's terrified of being wrong/being seen being wrong, because that means that what you were relying on until now does not work/does not reflect Truth, and as such makes you feel further away from the Essential Quality of Truth/Total Objectivity. Plus he's social dominant lol
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So/sx
This is the stacking that wants to be fuckable, but unlike sexual dominants it doesnt necessarily make it their entire personality. The main thing for SH is projecting and crafting a certain image of himself, and social usually does this through labels (sociopath, investigative consulent or whatever that was). He's more invested in presenting himself as a quirky and extra intellectual and treats the sx arena of sexual/attraction competition as a game (which is why sx auxes typically come across as v confident and flirty). (using the quirky intellectual trope is possibly both sx and social, but social wants to trasmit that image to everyone who crosses their path, even strangers, while sx doms are paradoxically less loud with their display, and make it less generically available/seen. Social users who want to present that image will dress as a quirky intellectual, social blinds won't because they dont understand social signaling)
It could be made a case for sx/so I guess, but from what I remember his social identity gets way more of his attention and energy.
Social 6s LOVE causing controversies and being polarizing. Not in a sx way "do I attract you or repulse you" but more like "are you with me or against me". Social makes it like "are you THE TYPE OF PERSON to be with me or against me?" Thus GENERALIZING and LABELING people, dividing them into groups, while sx is more specific in their selection.
To me it feels like he's actively being antisocial and misanthropic, whereas social blinds don't realize they're doing that/they're upsetting people. Social blinds dont realize how they're coming across while SH is arguably overly invested in that (even if not in a positive way). Social auxes also arent that much invested in it, since they treat their social image as an inconvenience that they have to sometimes attend to, or as sort of a hobby/playful distraction.
And well he's sp blind cause he can't fucking take care of himself and lets john and that dear lady do all the "boring" stuff. 6 sp blinds cant fucking stand still and have typically excessive mental energy. There is always a need for the next interesting thing and not enough time/attention is spent for the last one. (sx/so appear to me to be somewhat less fickle? In that so/sx treat their sx interests as a game, whereas sx/so take them more seriously. But I'm not sure about that)
So/sx is also 7ish in its energy so that's why he may look like a 7/6w7.
I've not considered his plausible neurodivergency but it doesnt change the gist. Any neurodivergent problem with boredom will look different from sp blindness.
Also I don't generically love typing characters bc they're usually written to be seen by the public in a certain way/reflect some public ideals and whatnot, or are made to be sexy and flirty anyway, but SH striked me as a typical example of how 6 is largely misunderstood (and as a stereotyped so/sx as well) lol
Nobody will probably read this but thank you for giving me the chance to do this it was fun
Hot take: Sherlock Holmes from the infamous bbc series was a 6w5 so/sx
#enneagram#sherlock#superwholock#enneagram 6#ennea6#ennea 6#ivs#so/sx#instictual variants#character typing#personality typing#personality types
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