#jcink discourse

[jcinkbabble]

to the "consequences of your own actions" person: i have a question for you when someone does something wrong, they mistreat someone, they hurt someone, etc. why is it then the response to go and air out that drama publicly for everyone to see? all the things that were posted on tattler, including the sasha situation, were truly not things that needed to be public rpc knowledge. people's interpersonal conflicts, who people like/don't like, etc are not everyone's business. shaming people publicly is still bullying even if they hurt you first, and if you truly want to be a bigger person, then don't facilitate the same hurt onto someone that they put onto you. the old take "an eye for an eye make the whole world blind" is true here for this situation, if someone hurt you, i am so sorry that you were hurt, but you are not owed public restitution for the hurt done upon you. the accountability falls on the person that hurt you to make it up to you in private, not in public. most people that rp in the jcink sphere are 21+, i'd say that the majority are 25+ to be honest, and we should be able to handle conflicts maturely. without gossip blogs, people will still get hurt and people will still gossip, but the hurt will not be widespread. no one owes anyone a public apology, my friends. you are not entitled to that, no matter how much mudslinging you have done. ignore the people that you don't like, don't have them in your spaces, don't join their sites. your experiences are not universal and even the world's biggest assholes have friends. you don't get to change that because you're salty.

I would be inclined to agree. There's a difference between resolution/closure, and punishment. Seeking to wound back because you were wounded isn't commendable. It's just revenge.

[jcinkbabble]

Since I've lost faith that Tattler will post anything challenging her narrative, I'll also reblog this here.

Tattler, if you need to put out a message saying "if my blog hurt you, you can message me", you need to reconsider your blog. I did block your blog, but that didn't stop the impact of what you've allowed on it. It didn't stop others from spreading lies, distorting what did happen, and trying to set a community on their personal enemies.

I only recently entered Jcink, but I now know more people harmed by your blog, than people not, all of whom I met through the simple act of RPing. People chased off sites before they got started because they're Tattler-Proclaimed "Bad People", people harassed because of rumors you spread on this blog, with no care about the impact.

Some folks might say it's not on Tattler, it's on us, but the reality? It's on all of us. Yes, it's on us, but it's also on you. The moment you opened and hosted this space, you made it possible for hate to have a platform. "This blog should never be impacting your mental health" is a ridiculous statement while you platform hate without any sort of restrictions or checks.

You can never safely reveal who you are. You've created a space of such hate, such vitriol, such pain, that the moment you out yourself, you'll be the target of the machine you made. You, Tattler, are the one person on this entire blog who gets the benefits of anonymity all the time. You control whether you are identified. Whether you are a target. You have complete and utter control. So please, don't talk to us like you're one of us. You have no skin in the game you started.

If you truly, genuinely want the harm to stop, shut this blog down. What on earth makes you think this space is a net good? The amount of people I've sat with through panic attacks, self harm thoughts, and crises because of hate spread on this blog should tell you what you've created. A machine of pain and punishment.

You've given abusers whose victims have escaped them, a way to reach them again. And not just reach them, but continue to harm them.

You've not created a machine of good discourse or conversation. You have given a platform and voice to the worst impulses we all have, and you're going to continue to enable it. You're going to keep causing pain and hurt so long as people keep submitting it. You're not worth talking to. And bluntly, I hope this blog changes, or burns to the ground, because holy fuck is this a trashfire of abusers who love the power they have over their victims.

Anyone looking to block Tattler - because clearly she won't stop the destructive machine - I suggest BlockSite if you're on Chrome. It has a paid mobile version, and the 30-odd bucks I paid to own it for a year is worth it for my mental health, and the mental health of those around me. I wish y'all the best. And as one of the positive anons who tried to turn things around, I'm sorry I couldn't, but I'll be over here on jcinkbabble trying to spread some good where I can.

It has come to my attention that some of you don't know that my messages are open. Not asks or submissions but messages. I have had many conversations in my private messages ranging from who I am to demands to attempted doxxing to mental health. If your alias is a constant on my blog and you need a mental health break I encourage you to message me. I understand some of you are hesitant to have a conversation with me but if you are unable to block my blog this is another solution for you. Through the duration of Tattler I have never released screenshots of my private messages or any information discussed within them. Many of you can attest to that. Tattler is about the rpc and while sometimes things outside of the rpc get brought into it, this blog should never be impacting your real life mental health. If it does, block me. If you can't block, message me.

[skinsort]

Hello, I've been thinking about code and selling code and sharing code in the rpc because someone posed the question to me of what I'd want to happen if someone was heavily editing a skin I sold, and to be honest, my first instinct was 'take my name off it'. That was met with some surprise, but let me explain why.

Code, to me, is a largely democratic landscape. If you want to learn, hundreds of thousands of people and websites have come together to teach you. Masses of people share open source work on codepen, stack overflow etc. Code as a skill is like assembling an especially abstract puzzle where you can only think about the pieces, not really see them. But most puzzles have similar strategies to solve- start with the corner pieces, then the edges, then the most recognizable patterns etc etc etc working your way down to the more and more difficult details. Most of code- most of my job writing code- involves minimizing the amount of time working on those shared strategies so we can have more time to work on the the interesting bits, the hard bits. the bits that make the site we're working on unique and useful. Frankly, jcink is the easy part of code, by and large. Your data is already structured and provided to you in a very particular way. It is inefficiently, but largely documented. Many other people have solved all the problems you are likely to have trying to build a skin. Skinning is html and css for the vast majority of items. It is the easy stuff. If I sell code, that code is now the property of the person I sold it to. It is not shareable or redistributable. You can't take my code and resell it as your own, but as far as I'm concerned you can do whatever you want with it. If I solved problems that might otherwise feel difficult (accessibility and responsiveness come to mind) cool. You can solve the easy ones, like styling and colors and fonts you like. You can add or subtract things that vibe with what you want that code to do. Once it is sold, it is yours to do with what you like when it comes to personal use. This is true of almost all coding contracts that exist in the entire world. If it weren't, no one would ever hire external contractors to do any work for their company, and I can tell you now, even companies which could fully afford to do all their tech in house absolutely do not in 99% of cases if their business isn't selling their own tech. The rule is generally- you may do anything you like with this, except resell it to someone else. So why take my name off it? I don't endorse how other people code. Even in my professional life, I've taken projects off my portfolio because the client took a project I worked on and broke it (imo), often with other professional developers doing the breaking. If a prospective employer were to go look at it, I'd be embarrassed by what it looks like today. Tell me why I (and my team) created a website that was fully responsive, and they went back to make it adaptive in the year of our lord 2022 because they preferred to have pixel perfect views at 3 specific breakpoints rather than a responsive site. I don't know, it's infuriating. I can't cite that project as an example of my work anymore, because it isn't. I would never leave a site in that state.

So, my first instinct with the idea of people using a skin i sell them as a base is 'take my name off it.' I don't want to be associated if responsive/accessible features are lost due to others working on a skin I wrote. But at the same time, where is the line between using something as a base, and editing a few small features? I certainly don't want to be an arbiter of that, or have to field questions or navigate feelings about it. In fact, personally I would not feel upset at all if someone used a paid for skin as a base, and inviting that kind of discussion is the only way I possibly could get upset since people have weird attitudes about a lot of this stuff. So I think the more practical standard is just to put credit, but make it explicit that the work has been heavily altered. Don't resell or redistribute, and you're golden, imo. Anyway, those are my feelings as someone who writes code for a living. I'm interested to hear counterpoints - constructively of course.

[widowskins]

widowbase v3 and v4

Whooboi, there is a lot of discourse going on right now about JCINK coders. Perfect time for me to update some base skins!

For those who just want to streamline their coding process, I have updated my widowbase v3 to include a day/night theme toggle and made a few responsive tweaks to the vertical nav and sidebar. For those looking to learn how to use CSS grid and flexbox to create responsive forum designs, I added a new base, widowbase v4. This version includes some HTML templates that have a very ugly, extremely basic, but functional fluid grid layout. These templates also incorporate hidden divs (read as, display: none) that include the PHP variables frequently used inside those respective HTML templates, so you can easily delete everything I've done and start from scratch with your own. Then just delete the hidden div when you've used everything you need. Easy peasy!

For those of you just beginning your coding journey, I wish you the best of luck! It is such a fun and rewarding hobby. You are also free to rip apart any of the codes on my preview site and cobble them back together. These experiments can be a great learning tool! You are more than welcome to use any of my free resources as a base, as long as the finished product remains free. As for my actual skin bases (or template sets specifically labeled as bases), these can be used for free or paid skins. Make money or give it away, whatever works for you, just leave the credits given to resources intact so others can find out how to accomplish the same thing!

[rpcburnbook]

i dont really care about the discord discourse. but as someone in jcink for nearing 15 years now, the mandatory move to discord is definitely new. i was always in an unfriendly timezone for real time conversations & aim/msn isn't a thing here, but while most sites i was on did have people share them (and i did have an account), jcink DMs, shippers and cboxes were definitely the norm. tbh, i miss it. its nice not having further separation between my accounts and the longer messages. also shippers became a kind of scrapbook to my character and their connections- i personally miss it. i struggle a bit with this faster paced, information lite culture of react posts. obvs shipping & sending longer messages to each other still exists, but there's definitely a bend to the culture. again, not inviting discourse or judging, but personally i just find it a bit of a struggle to adjust to and wonder if i want to keep putting effort to either adjusting or finding likeminded folks when thus far, the results arent sparking much joy.

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[allthingsroleplay]

Stars Who Listen has gone through a revamp, and is planning on a re-launch soon! Stars Who Listen is a jcink premium roleplay, set in an alternative universe of acotar with entirely original characters. Characters have unique abilities according to their court ( spring, summer, autumn, winter, dawn, day, night & now with hybern ) with different species & sub-species purchasable in the shop.

We’re active, with plenty of events planned & plotting to write out! We use a profile app, have lax activity requirements for general members & are exclusively 21+. Keep an eye out on our tumblr for our discord link to drop very, very soon-- new reserves and members will be welcome into the discourse before you know it.

[jcinkanon]

i appreciate you guys wanting to bring this back, but honestly: please don't. there was so much opportunity for people to cause discourse for fun on jcink anon and start fights with themselves, straight up, and while you tried your best to moderate it, its impossible with so many posts. please just leave it the tea blogs who have the opportunity to at least approve before posting.

there's an option on dreamwidth for all comments to be screened/pre-approved before posting. part of the reason we chose that platform was for demonstrated transparency, however, during a time when the other tea blogs came under suspicion of 'curating' their posts.

[therealteablogger]

for the discourse, of course.

[animangatea]

gay anime porn isn't fetishizing gay men because anime twinks aren't actual gay men. you can only fetishize a living human being, you cannot fetishize words on a screen that sprung from your fantasy. secondly, no gay man is ever going to be harmed by the nastiest, filthiest smut thread between two nerds on jcink because it is just words. gay dudes have tangible issues and unless they're a he/they named sock who never goes outside or fucks they don't really care about women into gay porn. this discourse needs to die, it's 2025, you know it's bullshit and you speak from a place of jealousy. you write m/f or f/f and are mad others won't write into your preference. grow. up.

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[jcinktinder]

Stars Who Listen has gone through a revamp, and is planning on a re-launch soon! Stars Who Listen is a jcink premium roleplay, set in an alternative universe of acotar with entirely original characters. Characters have unique abilities according to their court ( spring, summer, autumn, winter, dawn, day, night & now with hybern ) with different species & sub-species purchasable in the shop.

We’re active, with plenty of events planned & plotting to write out! We use a profile app, have lax activity requirements for general members & are exclusively 21+. Keep an eye out on our tumblr for our discord link to drop very, very soon-- new reserves and members will be welcome into the discourse before you know it.

[jcinkbabble]

Admin Note: This was an anon submission. To quote their own words;

It is long past time that these anonymous blogs of hate and toxicity close their doors. The RPC needs to heal. At the end of the day, we are writers trying to enjoy ourselves through escapism. Stop the hate. Stop the entitlement. Stop seeking entertainment through the real suffering of others.

If you agree, send Tattler the poll that she asked for. Put in your say and tell Tattler that it is time to close her doors for good. That anonymous hate is not going to be tolerated any longer.

Below, I’ll be collecting screenshots of the discourse. If you wish to add yours, submit them below.

[starswholistenrp]

Stars Who Listen has gone through a revamp, and is planning on a re-launch soon! Stars Who Listen is a jcink premium roleplay, set in an alternative universe of acotar with entirely original characters. Characters have unique abilities according to their court ( spring, summer, autumn, winter, dawn, day, night & now with hybern ) with different species & sub-species purchasable in the shop.

We’re active, with plenty of events planned & plotting to write out! We use a profile app, have lax activity requirements for general members & are exclusively 21+. Keep an eye out for our discord link to drop very, very soon-- new reserves and members will be welcome into the discourse before you know it.

[therpdirectory]

Stars Who Listen has gone through a revamp, and is planning on a re-launch soon! Stars Who Listen is a jcink premium roleplay, set in an alternative universe of acotar with entirely original characters. Characters have unique abilities according to their court ( spring, summer, autumn, winter, dawn, day, night & now with hybern ) with different species & sub-species purchasable in the shop.

We’re active, with plenty of events planned & plotting to write out! We use a profile app, have lax activity requirements for general members & are exclusively 21+. Keep an eye out on our tumblr for our discord link to drop very, very soon-- new reserves and members will be welcome into the discourse before you know it.

[rpcburnbook]

the license to the software (per server) is $499. // this whole convo shows that the rpc knows nothing about any of this. the og ipb was open source and free to use if self hosted, then turned to zeta, to tapa, to dead. current ipb is different. you can't just "update." jcink runs on a massively customized, self-contained bastard child of what ipb used to be that's been built from the ground up. if there's a feature you want, request it. that or choose elsewhere. mybb can be great. //

mostly true but not quite accurate. zetaboard is what happened to the old invisionfree website. it's not the software suite they used, which is invision power board (now invision community). invision power board used to be free and was extremely scalable, which is why sites like invisionfree (rip) and jcink use(d) it. but, around 20 years ago, it went from free to a premium license subscription model where you either are hosted by them for a monthly fee per forum, or you buy their 'classic' self-hosted option for $500 + $199 a year for support and updates. they justify this high price, which is considerably higher than other, equally feature rich forum software like xenforo, vbulletin, or discourse, by claiming that the vast majority of their business uses their managed/cloud hosting, and that's the cost that would justify keeping their self-hosted platform going at all.

jcink as a platform is a scalable environment which can create thousands if not tens of thousands of individually contained sites. it would be impossible to replicate this with invision community classic, and it would also be against the tos to do so, since the license only covers ONE instance and one site.

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[allthingsroleplay]

DISCOURSE - A MARVEL COMICS AU

Site | Adverts | Plot/Timeline

What sets us apart from other Marvel sites:

Not MCU based, AU comics-based

Magneto runs the Xavier Institute

Mutant Registration is the hot political topic, and is currently in the process of being enacted

The Civil War plot from the comics is a strong theme, and expected to play out

Some other factors to consider:

Advanced literacy site

No word count

Main profile applications

Inclusive environment

18+ 3/3/3-rated site

Jcink Premium

[therealteablogger]

we be moderated and guaranteed transphobe-free over here

re: they're talking about the ability to actually carry on an on-topic conversation // i don't see a problem with this set up. jcink anon was way more toxic because there wasn't anyone monitering it. it'd be a way bigger shitstorm

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