#kgptidbits

[jungkoode]

ngl i could hear you rant about how and why you made a character do a specific thing in a certain way for houuuuurs c'mon one tiny rant about one thing a kgp character has done or said that you wanna rant about because we havent talked about it enough yet ?

Ohhh you want me to rant? Say no more. But fair warning: you’ve just unlocked the mental whiteboard I keep for Jungkook’s unprocessed guilt and social dysfunction, so grab a snack. This will be long.

I do have a lot of moments I’d love to psychoanalyze to hell and back, but most of them are spoilers so tragically... I have to behave. That narrows the field considerably. But one scene that no one talks about enough—and I mean criminally overlooked—is the damn croissant incident in Chapter 6.

Yes. The goddamn pastry. That moment where Jungkook brings a croissant to Y/N but pretends it’s for Hoseok like he’s not literally on fire from the inside out. Let’s rewind.

So. First of all, this man has had a horrible impression of her since Chapter 1. It’s not fair, but it’s so deeply human. When they first meet, she’s clumsy and breathless, and he hears footsteps that she should’ve heard. He gets mad because, to him, that’s dangerous—being unaware is a death sentence in his world. She didn’t notice someone was tailing her and nearly ruined the stealth of their approach. So right away, he sees her as sloppy and unfit. That would be one thing. But then—she talks back. To him. The guy people avoid confronting because of how terrifyingly cold he is. She talks back like she doesn't care who he is. And that short-circuits his entire operating system.

From there, it’s just confirmation bias spiraling. Every time they interact, she reinforces his internal narrative that she’s a liability—even when she’s not. Which is what makes their whole dynamic so fascinating to write. Jungkook doesn’t actually know her. He knows a handful of first impressions, and his trauma takes it from there.

Flash forward to Chapter 2. She beats him to the cafeteria. She gets the first cup of coffee. That’s not just petty annoyance, that’s a violation of a ritual for him. Coffee isn’t coffee to Jungkook. The first cup of the day is a tether—it’s one small thing he can control in a world where everything else is chaos and punishment. He needs that coffee the way someone with OCD needs a ritual to ward off a spiraling sense of dread. When she gets there first, it triggers something raw in him—this woman who doesn’t follow rules has now disrupted his one safe routine. It’s irrational, but grief is irrational. Jungkook needs control to cope, and she messes with that without meaning to. So the resentment deepens.

Now—let’s talk about the ambush moment. This one gets overlooked a lot. She has no idea who’s sneaking up on her, and what does she do? She blocks the figure instead of shooting. Which ends up being Jungkook. And here’s the thing: no matter what she did, he would’ve been mad. If she shot, he’d have said she was reckless and impulsive. If she hesitates (which she does), he sees her as slow and naive. There’s no winning here. He’s the kind of person who would’ve found a reason to be pissed either way, and that’s on purpose. Because this man isn’t neutral about her—he already dislikes her, so every choice she makes confirms his bias. It’s the definition of a no-win situation.

And now… they’re paired. Again. And she’s hurt (her ankle). Of course. She’s now a liability. A burden. And this is key: Jungkook doesn’t do burdens. He doesn’t care. He’s not some protective alpha male who steps in because someone’s weak and helpless. HE RESENTS weakness and dependable people (make your guesses). That’s not how he works. His trauma has stripped him of softness when it comes to strangers. He’s efficient. He’s cold. In a normal setting, he would have left her behind without a second thought. But he doesn’t. And it’s not because he cares. It’s because he’s competitive. He is not going to let V win. V is watching. This is now a power play. Y/N is technically on Jeon’s team in this moment, and there is no way this man is going to give V the satisfaction of taking a shot at one of his. She’s not a teammate. She’s a chess piece, and Jeon refuses to lose. That’s the only reason he helps her. Not because he wants to. Not because he’s kind. Because he’s vicious and competitive and his hatred for V is a living, snarling animal.

He's not doing this out of moral code. He doesn't have a moral code that protects weak links. He has spite. V is not getting a free target. That’s it. If anything, he’s pissed that she got hurt and made this his problem. So when V offers to take her to the infirmary? Jungkook is like, “Thank God. Yes. Get her away from me.” It’s not guilt. It’s not kindness. It’s pure, unfiltered exasperation. This man wants nothing to do with her. And when readers ask why he’s so cruel in that moment—it’s because he is. He’s detached. That’s who he is right now. That’s what his past has shaped him into. The instinct to care has been systematically burned out of him. He just wants to get away.

It’s later—after some distance, after the adrenaline fades—that the guilt kicks in. But not for abandoning her. Not for using her as bait. Please. No. He doesn’t feel bad about that. What does gnaw at him is the realization that when she blocked the ambush, he paired her harder than he meant to—and that’s what made her stumble and sprain her ankle. And that’s where the guilt starts to creep in. Not emotional guilt. Physical guilt. The cause-and-effect kind. And—more importantly—the croissant guilt.

Because he sees her every morning. He doesn’t want to. But she’s there, always there, chasing that one croissant before anyone else gets to it. Just like he gets his first cup of coffee. It’s her ritual. It’s her anchor. And when she misses breakfast because of the injury—he notices. And even if he doesn't fully understand why it bugs him... he does something about it.

He gets her a croissant.

This man, who doesn’t do vulnerability, who doesn’t apologize, who doesn’t care—he sees that she missed out on her thing. And something in him recognizes it. Coffee to him. Croissant to her. Maybe he doesn’t name the emotion, but it sits in his chest like something unfinished. So he goes and hand-selects one. The good one. The perfect one. And he walks it into the infirmary.

And then—Hoseok walks in. Hoseok, who is not just Hoseok. He’s Council. He’s power. And power means surveillance. Power means masks. So Jungkook redirects. “It’s for you,” he says. To Hobi. Even though Hobi hates croissants. Jungkook knows he hates croissants. That’s the genius of it. He’s counting on that. He hands it off like it means nothing, knowing full well it’ll land in the right hands anyway. That’s how he operates. Indirect. Quiet. Controlled.

And when Y/N takes it, she has no idea what just happened. And she wouldn’t. Because Jungkook made sure she couldn’t trace it back to him. But we know. And Yunjin knows. Because she saw Jungkook that morning at the breakfast table, digging through the basket like he was picking a wedding ring. And that’s why I had the confirmation come from Yunjin—not from Y/N’s inner monologue. Because if we’d seen it through her lens, the whole thing might’ve felt romantic too soon. But it’s not romantic yet. It’s layered. Tense. Complicated.

To me, that croissant isn’t about the romance. It’s about the crack it represents in Jungkook. The first real, subtle moment where we see that his silence doesn’t mean absence. It means calculation. Fear. Caution.

And that’s where the whole emotional arc starts to shift. That’s the hinge. That stupid little croissant.

Anyway. I think about that scene a lot. Like, a lot. So thank you for coming to my TED talk about a pastry.

[jungkoode]

i REALLYYY wanna see v and y/n form a special bond like a bestie and they work together to make jeon jealous. or OR like when some shit happens they both protect her in front of everyone but she proves everyone that she doesn't need any protection and she can handle herself YKNOW WHAT IM SAYING UGHH i love that shi #kgp

I see what you’re doing and I am not falling for it, bestie. I can’t confirm or deny anything—because if I gave you that satisfaction, it would be handing you far too much power (and also, you know how I feel about spoilers).

That said, let’s actually unpack this idea, because I love when people dig into character dynamics, and your read opens the door to some really interesting layers I’ve been trying to build beneath the surface.

At first glance, the idea of Y/N and V forming some kind of alliance to rile up Jeon might seem fun. It’s a familiar trope, and in a different kind of story, maybe it could work. But this isn’t that story. The emotional architecture here isn’t built on tropes—it’s built on trauma, consequence, loyalty, and realism. And if you’re reading with that lens, you’ll start to realize: that kind of dynamic between V and Y/N isn’t just unlikely—it’s incoherent with who they are.

V isn’t just a wildcard. Yes, he presents as impulsive, even manic at times, and he’s absolutely the kind of person who appears to do things “just because.” But that’s camouflage. V is Chief of Stealth. That role requires precision, strategy, and the ability to manipulate reality itself—quietly, invisibly. His charm is a weapon. His chaos is curated. Every move he makes is either calculated or, when it’s not, laced with consequences he’s ready to live with.

And I’ve shown this. Think about the camping trip. That wasn’t a petty argument. That was a trap. V kept provoking Jeon—not physically, not in ways that would leave bruises or witnesses—but verbally, psychologically. He was goading Jeon into breaking composure. And it worked. Jeon lost control. He had V pinned against a tree, choking him, so worked up that if Takama hadn’t stepped in, the outcome might’ve been catastrophic. That’s how V operates. He doesn’t need to swing first. He waits for you to. He waits for you to leave traces of transgression—because he knows what those traces will cost you.

That’s not playful. That’s calculated warfare. If RM gave him the order, V wouldn’t hesitate. He’d slit Jeon’s throat and sleep like a baby.

And that’s not hyperbole.

Their hatred isn’t “sibling-like enemies” or some cute rivalry. It’s genuine. They were very close once. V watched Jeon break the one rule that cost them everything. And then he made himself the executioner.

That’s not something you walk back from.

V doesn’t want to tease Jeon. He wants to expose him. Prove he’s still soft. Still susceptible. Still a traitor. And then he wants to remove him. Permanently.

Ultimately, what’s so fun and interesting about V is that he plays chaotic, but he isn’t. He’s patient. He’s dangerous. He’s setting traps—and watching to see who steps in them.

And if you want proof of V’s capacity for manipulation? Look at his relationship with Jimin. The way V moves within intimacy while weaponizing it as leverage. That entire relationship is V being manipulative. That’s not softness. That’s control. That’s information leverage. That’s how V operates. There’s no part of him that doesn’t know how to extract advantage from a situation.

So it’s not even about just Jeon. It’s his whole persona. It’s his character. He embodies stealth, even personality-wise. The only reason he fits in KGP is how absurdly loyal he is to the gang and RM, and that’s why he’s kind of leashed in his chaos.

Now let’s talk about Y/N.

Y/N isn’t naive. She’s observant. She knows how power works. She’s not the type to play manipulation games with people’s emotions, least of all someone like Jeon, who’s carrying a guilt complex so heavy it’s practically its own character.

Y/N isn’t here to provoke people into emotional spirals. She’s learning Jeon’s damage. She’s seeing past the cold exterior. And not because she’s trying to fix him or claim him—but because she understands what grief and guilt look like. She recognizes it. That’s empathy, not manipulation. That’s what makes her dangerous in a different way: she sees truth. And she doesn’t run from it.

When V teased her—joked about biting her when she was cleaning the blood from his lip after Jeon punched him—did you catch that moment where she spit the threat back? And V paused? That wasn’t just banter. That was a psychological beat. It was V clocking that she’s not afraid of him. That she won’t play by his rules. And that pause? That was rare. That was V recalibrating.

So could V and Y/N develop some sort of mutual understanding down the line? Maybe. But it won’t be playful. It won’t be tactical. It won’t be “let’s mess with the boy.” It would have to come through pain and change and character growth on both sides—and if it ever happens, it won’t look anything like what you’re imagining.

And that’s the beauty of this world, I think. It’s not about playing out tropes. It’s about watching people try to survive the weight of their choices. If you’ve been reading this story and thinking, “Wait, is V maybe trying to provoke something more complicated?” or “Why doesn’t Y/N react the way a typical character might?”—then you’re right where I want you to be. You’re asking the good questions.

So don’t stop theorizing. I love when you guys pick up on layers, even if the conclusions don’t always line up. Just know: if something feels off, it might not be because you read it wrong… it might be because you read it too easily.

And nothing in this story is ever that simple.

[jungkoode]

Where is the limit on the "relationships are weaknesses" mentality ? You say V wants to show Jeon is still vulnerable and therefore still a threat, but that was a case wayyy before Sunshine came into the picture and exposed Jeon in tiny tiny ways in the way they interact that V probably sees. Jeon would have never admitted to being fuckbuddies with Sunshine or sharing a bed with anyone the way he was willing to with Jhope even in his annoyance and in trying to prove hes got it under to control. Never in a fuckin life he would have admitted it anywhere within AD's ears. Is just admitting to have a crush or have feelings for someone the line ? WIll it lead to actions to separate the people ? What about close friendships that regularly includes cuddles, bed sharing, maybe even cuddly fuckbuddies, is it like high school rule where the kiss is what draws the line ? Is it when the feelings between people start clouding their mind and affecting their decision making negatively, even if it were platonic ?

Soooo this was briefly addressed and very intentionally not explicitly stated or developed in narration, but I did hint at it lowkey. 👀

The ‘no attachments’ rule isn’t about sex. It’s not even really about intimacy or closeness or sleeping in the same bed. It’s specifically about romantic attachment. And that’s a crucial distinction.

The “relationships are weaknesses” rule doesn’t apply to friendships, affection, or even people being physically close or sexually involved—people in KGP hook up, sleep in the same beds, have deep emotional bonds. What it does apply to is emotional romantic attachment that can lead to perceived betrayal of the gang’s interests. And the reason that line is so sharp, so non-negotiable, goes all the way back to RM’s origin story as mentioned in chapter 9.

RM’s brother (Jin) was betrayed by the person he trusted most—his fiancée. She sold intel to MDF. That act didn’t just cost him his position—it cost him his life.

And for RM, watching someone he admired and loved get taken down by romantic entanglement became a foundational trauma. That betrayal, under the guise of love, is what burned the rule into stone. Romantic relationships make you vulnerable. And vulnerability makes you fallible. So when RM took over, he didn’t ban friendships. He didn’t ban sex. He banned love.

So this isn’t some high school “if you kiss it counts” rule. This is psychological warfare. This is about where your loyalty goes when everything is on the line. Romantic love—deep, exclusive emotional attachment—is seen as a threat to structural integrity. Because history showed them what happens when love turns into betrayal.

And RM, just as every other character here, is also deeply traumatized; and thus acts accordingly; even if to outside people his logic is flawed. It comes from somewhere deep.

Now bring that back to Jeon.

The problem isn’t that he’s sleeping around, it’s that in everyone’s eyes (everyone who knows, who’s almost nobody), he’s a traitor.

Nobody else has to be secretive. Nobody else is being watched like he is. That’s the core psychological fuckery happening here. It’s not about sex. It’s not about cuddles. It’s not about affection. It’s about Jeon. Because he already proved he could fall. And when he did, someone died.

So now? He has to keep everything tight. Controlled. Quiet. Not because he’s in love again—not consciously, not even close—but because he’s already on thin ice. He’s a man. A healthy man. He’s attracted to Sunshine—because she’s sharp and independent and nothing like Sylvia, and because wanting her feels instinctual, inevitable. And yes, because he wants to fuck (lmao)—but that’s not the issue.

The issue is that he isn’t just anyone; it’s that he is the guy who broke the rule once and got someone killed for it. And the people watching him—V, AD, even RM—aren’t clocking his desire. They’re watching for patterns. For signs. For déjà vu. They don’t care if it’s just attraction. They care about possibility. They care about the idea that history could repeat itself.

So he lies. Not because he’s hiding a grand romance, but because he knows even the appearance of emotional compromise could cost him everything.

And V? V’s not looking for a kiss or a confession. He’s looking for slippage. Evidence that Jeon might break the rule again. Because that gives V the green light to say: “He’s a liability. You’ve seen this before. And he’s doing it again.” and boom, take him out.

So yes—romantic feelings are the line. Not because they’re inherently wrong, but because of what they represent in this world. A person torn between their loyalty to the gang and their loyalty to one person. And that is something RM doesn’t tolerate. Not after what happened to his brother. Not ever again.

And I promise… all of this is going to make even more sense the deeper into the story we go.

You’re already seeing the threads. Keep pulling.