#kyle katarn

[passionesolja]

The strongest proof I have for my “The Sith Empire/Sith Order didn’t like the Banite Sith Order and Galactic Empire” theory is that the Rebel Alliance and Jedi were hanging out on Yavin 4 and still won. That was Naga Sadow’s, one of the most important Dark Lords of the Sith, planet. He was exiled there after getting bodied by the Jedi and Republic, he died there too like his mf tomb is on the planet. There were tons of Sith species mfs and Proto-Imperials on that planet

Like dawg, Yavin 4 is within Sith Space, it’s close as hell to Korriban, Ziost, Dromond Kaas, all these very Sith planets. And the Galactic Empire still lost even though the opposing side was on the planet of the side they was tryna emulate. Sith have ghosts, force ghosts been normal for Sith since forever.

It was the Clone Wars and Yoda was like “hm, are force ghosts real? Nah that’s superstitious”, meanwhile Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh was dueling in front of Marka Ragnos’ ghost before mfs even flew a starship into the Jedi Temple. Marka Ragnos be popping up to fight mfs like Kyle Katarn, mf doesn’t even know what’s going on.

Sith species Force Ghosts do not give a fuck, they let you know they’re there.

If the Sith was really fucking with Sidious and his Empire, they would’ve been interfering and doing shit to hinder the Rebels. You know they would’ve been fucking Luke Skywalker’s shit up the minute he stepped foot on Yavin 4. But mfs didn’t. Probably was helping ‘em out lowkey.

Imo, this is because Darth Bane caused the Sith Empire’s demise when he decided there could be only two Sith at a time so he used the Thought Bomb. The Republic and Jedi didn’t stop the Sith Empire and the Sith Order, Darth Bane did.

Bro ain’t know shit about the Sith culture, Sith is not sneaky mfs they ain’t ever been sneaky. Mfs disappeared, rebuilt their forces, then crashed into the Jedi Temple and attacked Coruscant head on. They was not hiding. The Sith be like “we want the Jedi and Republic dead” but that really meant “we want to fight them everyday and talk shit”, but that bald mf thought everybody but him was a fake Sith.

Literally, that bald traumatized mf made dozens of millenniums worth of Sith Pureblood and Imperial blood, sweat, tears, and tireless effort absolutely useless for no reason. I’m sure they were so mf pissed off so that’s why when the rebels/Jedi popped up on their planet, they ain’t do shit and probably helped em lowkey.

I just know that the OG Sith Order absolutely hated Darth Bane for the shit he pulled and Sidious stealing their swag while being apart of the Banite Sith Order made them want all the smoke with him too. That’s all I’m saying

[2stepadmiral]

After the reconstruction of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, Han Solo's constant presence at the Temple begins to confuse the younger knights and apprentices.

At first, it makes some degree of sense. He usually shows up with Leia or one of his kids, and he is well-known as a friend and ally of the Order, so it makes sense for him to eat meals with Jaina, or attend meetings with the Masters, or assist Corran Horn in overseeing pilot training, or walk little Ben around the Stealth-X hangar. Plus, Lando Calrissian, Wedge Antilles, Booster Terrik, and Talon Karrde, also prominent allies and friends, are frequent visitors as well, so it makes sense.

But one day, some of the apprentices start noticing that Han is around a little bit more often than a non-member really should be. Maybe its been a while since he came for a briefing or training exercise, and maybe his reasons to visit lately have become a little too casual. Now, he's showing up alone just to try out the flight simulators new Chiss clawcraft program, or because it's nerf sausage day in the cafeteria, and more often than not, its on days where his kids are off on missions and Luke and Mara are tied up in council business.

It reaches a whole new level during a pilot exercise led by Corran, Kyp, and Jaina, when one of the apprentices ask who's the best pilot they know, and three of the Order's premiere pilots, two of whom are Rogue Squadron veterans and all three of whom spent most of the Yuuzhan Vong war in a cockpit, unanimously agree on Han Solo.

Then, two months later, when the Temple's security system is being updated and Master Kyle Katarn gives strict orders that no one is to enter or exit the temple until the update is completed, Han casually walks right up to the two senior apprentices guarding the temple entrance. When told that there's a security lockdown due to system updates, Han doesn't "want to hear about security updates, I want to know where my wife is. It's our wedding anniversary and I'm taking her someplace nice in the Falcon, now tell me where she is so we can get going." After several minutes of arguing, a visibly frustrated Han decides to just go get her himself, and when one of the apprentices tries to stop him, Han somehow disarms him of his lightsaber and throws it outside of his telekinetic range, leaving him chasing after his weapon and his partner following Han, trying to talk him into stopping. All while Jaden Korr is watching, shaking his head, and mouthing, "You'll be sorry."

Han quickly finds Jedi Knight and former New Republic Chief of Staff, and SHOCKS the two apprentices with his absolute immunity to her infamous and feared anger before sweet talking the lifelong diplomat into leaving the temple in the middle of the lockdown for an anniversary escapade. Then, he casually walks out of the Jedi Temple in the middle of a security lockdown like it's kriffing nothing with one of the most prominent Knights in the Order. And when the two apprentices finally get a hold of Master Katarn to advise that Han Solo just infiltrated the Temple and absconded with Jedi Organa-Solo, his reaction is something like "<pause> and you idiots actually tried to stop him?" "Well, yes, Master, you said no one comes in or out." "<pause> Yes, but what in the Sithspit made you think that you should try to stop Han Solo from getting to his wife on their anniversary?"

A month after that, he walks up to the High Council chambers right in the middle of a serious meeting. The apprentices standing watch outside (one of the same from the security incident) assume that he's been summoned to answer to the rumors that he started hosting a weekly Sabaac tournament in one of the temple classrooms (the rumor is completely true, just last week Kenth Hamner nearly ragequit after Han cleaned him out for the fifth consecutive week) and assure him that the Masters will call him when they're ready for him. Han ignores this and walks right in, right as the masters are in the middle of a discussion about potential Dark Jedi sightings on Corellia, to demand that Mara make good on all the lost bets she owes from the previous few Sabaac nights. After several minutes heated discussion (the Dark Jedi are almost forgotten at this point), the entire council comes out, and Master Cilghal informs the incredulous apprentices that Mara owes Han so many lunches from the Sabaac nights that it was agreed that she would just treat the entire council, as well as Han, to clear her tab. Mara is semi-sternly lecturing Han about interrupting council meetings for something so trivial, while Han is good-naturedly wondering if she's been deliberately scheduling meetings at lunchtime to avoid paying up, causing her to go curiously quiet (the apprentices are FLOORED that the infamously terrifying Mara Jade Skywalker isn't plugging him full of laser bolts for this whole interaction).

As the last one to leave, Luke stops to ask the apprentices if they're okay, having sensed their immense confusion.

"Well, Grand Master, it's just... it seems like Captain Solo gets away with whatever he wants. It's like the rules don't apply to him, and some of us have been wondering..." she gulps before continuing. "If it's maybe possible that Captain Solo is secretly not only a Jedi, but more powerful than you, and secretly the real Grand Master of the Order."

Grand Master Luke Skywalker, completely unable to resist this particular urge, rubs his chin thoughtfully, pretends to carefully consider the question for a moment, and then, with a small grin, responds: "That's a interesting question, Apprentice. Perhaps he is," before walking away, grinning like mad, while the apprentices stare incredulously at his back.

[1stprototype]

Dark Jedi: "You call using a flak cannon a Jedi martial art?"

Kyle Katarn: "Hey, as long as it works."

[haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted]

Star Wars: Dark Forces - Jedi Knight - Battle in the Milagro system from inside the cockpit of the Moldy Crow by Dave Dorman

[pedroam-bang]

Star Wars: Dark Forces (1995) - Star Wars: Dark Forces Remastered (2024)

[the-time-lord-oracle]

In 1998, Hasbro dabbled in the Expanded Universe. Quite a nice line of figures and vehicles, especially Mara Jade and Grand Admiral Thrawn.

[incorrectstarwarslegendsquotes]

Star Wars Legends + text posts, part 3 (2) (1)

[alphamecha-mkii]

Star Wars: X-Wing - HWK-290 Expansion Pack - Kyle Katarn, HWK-290 by Ben Zweifel

[saphronethaleph]

I'd Have Two Credits

The field was silent, and Mara Jade Skywalker was almost invisible.

She would have been completely invisible, hidden in the long grass, but her red hair was sort of a giveaway… still, it was close enough.

Then she shifted slightly, and fired her blaster rifle.

The skeet she was shooting only appeared after she’d pulled the trigger, and skeet and blaster bolt converged before vanishing in an explosion.

“Not bad,” Kyle said. “What does Luke think about this kind of thing, by the way?”

“Shouldn’t you have asked that before agreeing to help?” Mara replied, firing again. A second target flew across the range and exploded, and Mara smirked slightly.

She was sure her husband wouldn’t have a problem, not really. He’d grown up a farmboy using a blaster to protect himself, after all.

“Aunt Mara?”

“Safing the range,” Mara declared, flicking the safety onto her rifle.

“Confirmed,” Kyle agreed, from inside the bunker, and Mara rolled over onto her back.

“Hey there, Young Ben,” she added, smiling up at Ben Solo. “What brings you out here?”

The teenaged trainee Jedi looked serious.

“Aunt Mara, I’ve got a problem,” he said. “I… don’t know who to ask, but… can you help?”

Mara picked up her comlink.

“This sounds private, Kyle,” she said. “Sorry.”

“Copy that,” Kyle agreed. “I’ve got some training of my own to do, anyway.”

Mara flicked the switch off, and sat up.

“Okay,” she said. “What’s the problem?”

“I’ve got… suspicions,” Ben answered. “I feel like people are keeping something from me.”

“Yeah, probably,” Mara agreed.

Ben blinked.

“Huh?” he asked.

“You don’t know everything about my past,” she pointed out. “That’s because some of it is private. You don’t know everything about Kyle’s past, either. I don’t know if Kyle knows everything about his own father’s past… but what you’re actually saying is that you think people are keeping something important from you. Is that right?”

Ben nodded agreement.

“It’s something to do with me,” he said. “It’s when… Uncle Luke is talking about me. When my parents are talking about me.”

Mara frowned, thinking.

“I do know what it is,” she said. “And I also know why you haven’t been told yet, Ben… and it might have been a mistake, but here’s why you haven’t been told.”

She patted the grass next to her, and after a moment Ben sat.

They looked out together towards the skies of Ossus, and the Jedi Temple some kilometres away.

“It’s because they don’t want to put too much pressure on you,” she said. “There are some things which are too much strain to comfortably put on a child… and I say that as someone who had too much strain put on them as a child.”

“You turned out all right,” Ben muttered, almost accusingly.

“Eventually,” Mara conceded. “Eventually. But it took a long time, kid, and it’s an ongoing process too. I still wake up sweating in the night, because of the person I used to be… because of the weight that was put on me, by someone who wanted me to be a tool. Rather than to grow up as a child.”

“I still don’t think it’s fair,” Ben said. “I’m old enough to know.”

“Maybe you are,” Mara allowed. “But maybe you aren’t – and once you know something, you can’t unlearn it. Your family is keeping this from you, but it’s out of love… and Luke didn’t take it well when he learned something similar, and he was over twenty at that point. So it’s partly about making sure you learn in the right way.”

She shrugged. “But, hey. I’ll keep a close eye on you, and see if I come to a different opinion, okay? You are my favourite nephew.”

“I’m your only nephew,” Ben objected.

“Makes it an easy choice, doesn’t it?” Mara asked. “Doesn’t make it wrong, though.”

They sat in companionable silence for another minute or so, and an insect buzzed past with wings that droned deeply and resonantly.

“You’d never know there’d been a supernova blast hit this place thousands of years ago,” Mara said, then saw Ben’s expression.

“Aunt Mara,” the teen began, sounding like he wasn’t quite sure if he should ask. “What should I do if I hear… voices?”

“Voices how?” Mara asked.

“Talking to me,” Ben answered. “Suggesting things. Telling me things.”

“Well, in my experience, a voice in your head is usually Emperor Palpatine,” Mara told him. “Persistent bugger, too. Took five years after he died to finally get rid of that voice… but, fortunately for you, Ben, I’ve got experience in how to deal with that kind of voice.”

Ben didn’t say anything, but his expression looked relieved.

“If it’s about something horrible happening,” Mara began. “Like, an injury, or hurting yourself, you just think… yeah, that would suck. And then you keep going. If it’s telling you to do something, you think… do I actually want to do that? Will I still want it later?”

“And if it’s telling you something?” Ben checked.

“Then… best thing you can do is ask someone about if it’s true,” Mara replied. “But, you know, Ben… if a voice in your head tells you something that’s true, something you didn’t know, you know what that means?”

“...no?” Ben replied, frowning.

“It means you have every reason to think there’s an actual person, trying to manipulate you,” Mara said, her voice suddenly firm and her eyes very much like her maiden name. “And if it turns out that someone is trying to manipulate my nephew, I would very much like to know about it so I can ask them to stop. With a lightsaber.”

Ben was silent for about fifteen seconds.

“Is my grandfather Darth Vader?” he asked.

Mara promptly stood up.

“Right,” she said, and flicked the comlink on. “Kyle!”

There was a crash sound.

“What?” Kyle asked, sounding distracted. “I was getting the skeet shooter into position for testing my defence, and dropped it!”

“Never mind that now,” Mara replied. “Contact your friend Jan, we’ve got a force-user to track down and kill.”

“Right, right, on it,” Kyle replied.

That done, Mara crouched down again.

“Yes,” she said. “I wish you didn’t have to find out this way. Like I said, Luke didn’t take it well and he was over twenty at the time…”

[legacy-expo]

Any Mysteries of the Sith fans in the house…? Nothing quite hits like trying to build a costume based off game graphics from 1998.

Photo: @nikkwhyte

Mara Jade: @roboemma

Kyle Katarn: carhoooun (IG)

[supersaiyanjedi14]

"Then I am alone. I am the last of the Jedi." "Not the last of the old Jedi, Luke. The first of the new."

To celebrate the end of Jedi June, I present these exceptional young men. All Force-sensitive Rebel Alliance operatives who came into their own after the fall of the Order. All guided in the ways of the Jedi by a survivor of Darth Sidious's purge. And all, in their own ways, setting the stage for the return of the Jedi Knights to the galaxy.

@jedijune

*credit for my pixels here

[2stepadmiral]

The New Jedi Order is awesome and one of my favorite parts of the Expanded Universe, no I will not be taking questions at this time

[infinitepunches]

Cassian is Alive in the Legends Continuity:

As expected, Andor season two overwrites the first meeting between Cassian and K-2SO from the comic book.

How can there be two versions? Some have theorized that the comic is the official story the Alliance tells. I propose an alternative.

Here's a panel from the comic. In the far right, we see our first Noghri in Disney canon. (Prior even to Rukh's appearance in Rebels.) However, that's not what Noghri look like in Canon.

Canon Noghri:

Legends Noghri:

Obviously, the Cassian/K-2SO comic takes place in the pre-Disney Legends Coninuity. Meaning that Cassian and K-2SO exist in the old timeline. And since Kyle Katarn retrieves the Death Star plans in Legends, that means Cassian is still alive, and he probably survived the war and raised his son Throckmorton.

[blade-liger-4ever]

Relationship Analysis: Why Kanan/Hera Works and Kyle/Jan Doesn't

Look, I don't hate Jan Ors. She's a good character, very well rounded, and quite impressive. However, unlike Hera, her approach to relationships/family is....lacking. And because of that lacking, I feel she's not a good match for Kyle.

Allow me to explain, if you feel inclined to listen. Otherwise, nothing is stopping you from ignoring my post.

Kanan/Hera: War-Forged Lovers

When he was a barely into his teens, Kanan Jarrus was a front line soldier and commander. He threw himself into the Clone Wars, fought side by side with fellow Jedi and clones, and was doing all he could to preserve the galaxy. When Order 66 happened, he was still quite young, and as he began drifting in and out of jobs and bars, he realized that he wanted to find one woman he could settle with, who he could have a family with and the happiness in life he'd been denied during the Clone Wars.

Hera Syndulla is the daughter of Ryloth's prominent hero Cham Syndulla. She grew up learning about heroism, honor, and the rights of the people at his knee, and saw firsthand the horrors the Separatists unleashed on the galaxy. When her mother died, she was still quite young, and this both drove a wedge between herself and her remaining family, and made her seek out a purpose in life to fill the hole left in her heart from Eleni's death. When she found Kanan, Hera slowly began to realize that the answer to her pain and heartbreak didn't just entail fighting for the cause and pouring her heart and soul into it, but in forming the family that she had lost.

This is what makes them work. In seeking out a goal in life to soothe their pain, Kanan and Hera discover that they have the chance to create a life together after the war with the Empire is over. It takes some time for the two to acknowledge the depth of their love for each other, but even then, they know that they'll never be happy with anyone else.

This is the beauty of their relationship. Kanan and Hera, two lost souls broken by a war they had no say in, find love and healing together, and against all the odds come out of it together complete and healthy. That's why they work, and why everyone is drawn to them: because Kanan and Hera show that no matter what has happened to you, whatever has shaped your life until that moment you meet the love of your life, you can find happiness and family with someone.

Kyle/Jan: Unscathed Casual Lovers

Kyle Katarn is a farm boy from Sulon, who lost his mother to natural circumstances at a young age. This left him to grow up with his father, and while they were untroubled by the Clone Wars, the most problems they had were keeping the money coming in, which is why Kyle joined the Empire in the first place. It was only after his graduation that the greatest tragedy in Kyle's life took place, and once learning it was the Empire that had killed his father, Kyle quickly renounced the Empire and joined the Rebellion.

Jan Ors is the daughter of well off Alderaanians, and while she most likely heard and saw a lot of the aftermath of the Clone Wars, Jan grew up happy and independent. She wished to do a lot on her own, and was inspired to fight for the cause of the Rebellion wholeheartedly without that much inspiration from her family (though them setting up an anti-Imperial network didn't hurt either.) I'm sure she was devastated when her homeworld was obliterated, but Jan continued to put the mission above all else, even when Kyle came swaggering into her life.

And this is the crux of their relationship that makes it off-putting: Kyle and Jan, while frequently flirting and spending alone time together, have different goals. Kyle, while a lot healthier than Kanan in terms of his personal history, primarily seeks a steady family life while maintaining his New Republic and Jedi Master duties. Jan, as good as she is, prioritizes building up and serving the New Republic. She loves Kyle, but if it comes to a choice between marrying him and continued service, she will choose service without fail. No joke, she repeatedly turned down his proposals of marriage, and while she excused it as not knowing which one of them will live or die, it still boils down to Jan not wanting to relinquish her independent career for a family.

Thus, their relationship comes across as casual partners with "benefits." They maintain a relationship without tying the knot, and it feels both superficial on Jan's side and like a grim acceptance on Kyle's part.

That's why I feel Kanan/Hera is both better than Kyle/Jan, as well as realistic. Because of the hardships that Kanan and Hera have each been through from such a young age, they're more readily able to discern the nature of their relationship as well as form the family they now understand they want. Meanwhile, Kyle and Jan, though damaged later in life, were relatively unharmed during their childhood. This means they don't actively seek what Kanan and Hera search for, and with their different approaches to life, makes their goals contradictory and lead only to cohabitation that is ultimately unfulfilling for them both.

I hope you enjoyed this. If you agree, I'm happy. If you disagree, that's fine and I accept that. I just felt like sharing these observations and explaining the nature of these two well known couples.

May the Force be with you!

[haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted]

Star Wars: Dark Forces: Jedi Knight - Kyle Katarn dueling with Sariss by Dave Dorman

[noblcgames]

Of course. Many people have them. Lightsabers? Questions