#light avengers: doomsday speculation maybe?

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In a way being Sentry has the potential of more harm because he wasn’t able to be talked down in that state. (Granted the team didn’t really give Yelena a good chance to try, but still)

Yeah, and from there it continued to build up. He went from just seeming more confident to "I'm a god actually" pretty quickly, and then he was suddenly at aggressive and paranoid, and was choking someone (which, yes, it was Val, and she treated him abominably, but what if Mel hadn't stopped him? Val's a normal human, he could break her like a twig.). Which given his past with that abusive father is pretty alarming and clearly wasn't meant to be something positive.

If he’s going to have a power set in future projects, become a hero, it can’t be with just the Sentry powers/look/persona. It’s gotta be something new - a meeting/melding of the two personas he’s presented. In a way he’s gotta just be Bob.

Yeah, exactly.

I hope they don’t just turn around and make him superpowered good boy as Sentry.

According to Lewis Pullman, the post-credit scene is actually meant to be part of Doomsday (which would definitely fit the Russos' MO), so at least the characterization about both parts going together will be kept for the time being. And after DD/SW, who knows what the situation will look like? I can't imagine they'd ditch the Void entirely, though, and making the Sentry something that also might become too much is simply a pretty good way of keeping his powers from becoming too story-breaking.

Ok, but I’ve seen no one talk about the representation of Bob’s manic episode as Sentry. Hear me out.

He describes himself in the movie as having really high highs and really low lows. They never use the word but that’s clearly bipolar he’s describing. A manic episode followed by a depressive one.

The Void is clearly the representation of his depressive episode. Obviously. But I really think that fight as blonde boy Sentry was his mania.

It’s not the typical manic depiction we’re used to seeing, he’s very very calm during that scene. But a lot of times when experiencing mania people describe themselves as feeling indestructible, unstoppable. Bob literally calls himself a god. That’s, that’s mania, babes.

His mental health manifests in his powers. He literally becomes indestructible. He literally becomes nothing, a void.

In addition: In the end credit scene he says he can’t be Sentry without also being The Void. They go hand in hand, just like bipolar. Now, I know nothing about this guy’s comic counterpart, but going off of what the movie has shown us, I’m assuming that if he gets his mental health managed, he’s going to have both power sets. He’s going to have the Superman like powers and the shadow like powers. They’re intermingled.

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Doomsday Theory (In light of Comic-Con)

The only way this whole RDJ as Doctor Doom thing is going to work is if they did a full on arc about Iron Man secretly being resurrected by some force attracted by the energy left over from the infinity gauntlet. Can you imagine it? How much more sense it would make?

S.W.O.R.D sees something headed for Earth. They destroy it or so they think. Then there's like a tremor or something, everyone's on high alert, and then it stops. Nothing happens. Everything's fine.

Suddenly however, miles away, Tony Stark is crawling out of his grave with no memories. He only remembers science stuff and that's it, nothing about himself, so he's wandering the city trying to find someone who can help him, corrupt alien voices in his head that survived S.W.O.R.D's intervention, before he gives in from being lost and he's brainwashed by them.

He follows their orders, slowly becoming Doctor Doom over several years and hiding away in like, abandoned labs or something till he's able to amass some kind of money to become public.

Even though he looks a fucking lot like the deceased billionaire, just slightly older, Victor Doom (his new name, something to do with the word Victorious) somehow gets away with being in the tech world without so much as a person batting an eye.

Come to the whole villain arc thing whatever way they play it out in both the new Fantastic Four reboot and then, Avengers: Doomsday and when he reveals himself in the latter film, the older Avengers are tortured having to fight their friend while the newer Avengers don't know the significance (maybe some do, but it's speculative) until someone tells them.

(Of course, Disney would never do something that outlandish even though it's very in line with the canon universes of both The Avengers and Fantastic Four, but what have you. I'm just saying.)