#now they are both alive and sentient and stuff :) yay

[smile-files]

felt like doodling goldie & bowl!! :)

[annoying-probably]

Hi there. I have three draft posts about akty / vbs vs' / poly jump!

But I'm bad at wording things coherently in a post. So instead, please have a long post on a lot of different genshin lore theories, more specifically linked to Istaroth and Barbatos and Khaenri'ah sometimes. Genshin is a special interest and more specifically, the gods and their lore are! The ending point about the Wind being a primordial one is a favourite theory of ours. We actually wrote about it lightly in our recent fic "With Wind Beside You" on ao3!! Anyways, this is ripped straight from discord! This is a lot of disorganised genshin theory ranting. I'd be happy to hear people's thoughts!

also spoiler stuff for the most recent archon quest iirc

If irminsul can not delete all things, just direct mentions. Venti suddenly knowing every ballad and song ever- along with being connected to a god of time, worshipped with her, and possible from the same origin- the thousand winds (of time) is a lot more scary for him and how omniscient he may be. There's a lot of. Like. Internet connections to genshin. I did ei's story quest2 last night and that ending cutscene with time? How eternity is everything, all at once? Both future and past? How come it looked like a 3d model set up from a spy movie huh. And irminsul.. is kinda like a super computer!!! It's just super weird !!! But also makoto was close with Istaroth!!!! And Ei thought she might have something to do with it all!!!! concerning . istaroth is being mentioned more and more and it scares me cus that's like our once chance of "old teyvat"/ pre war lore that isn't being gatekeeped by celestia because I don't think they can kill a primordial one tbf. I hope we see her but damn I am scared of her. imagining playing a god of time, how fucked up could they be!

gold / rhinedottir was all fucking over the cataclysm. Durin was attacking Mondstadt, making Barbatos wake up and fight him with Dvalin. Ei was fighting Rifthounds in Inazuma, while Makoto died in the cataclysm- both of those things, made by khemia, by gold! What's gold? The last stage of khemia, go memory! And Rifthounds and Durin must be first, really, Soil. This is all going off my albedo lore knowledge without checking give me some slack- but! Durin and Rifthounds share traits! Poison. Completely disintegrating everything and poisoning the land! Yay! Powerful enough to affect god's! And gods familiars! And *ley lines!* Infact they specifically attack ley lines ***which is what causes erosion!!!!*** So. That's very concerning. Whether they thrive off erosion, or ley line power itself, and cause other things to erode thereafter- bad. Durin is also still alive, partly. The heart. So!

After soil comes chalk! Now, Albedo was made to be a perfect being and then abandoned! Did Rhinedottir not need something sentient? Did she not need intelligent life? Did she want a puppet from afar? Where is she now? Albedo, who she so lovingly named /s, is still trying to figure out her question to what human life means!! And the idea that albedo, too, may one day fall to erosion, is terrifying! Because he is strong!! Very, canonically, if i remember!!! Which isn't *great*.

On.

the topic of khaenri'ah.

so the next traveler archon quest has dain and kaeya. Talking. In sumeru. And oh boy Mona's "One day he'll have to pick a side." ***is a lot scarier!*** And ventis line on albedo!! I don't like where this goes!!! Sure I'd kive more cataclysm lore like sure go ahead but holy f u c k. a reason why kaeya isn't cursed would be n i c e. Maybe something of Pierro??? Mentioned??? He's khaenri'an. Theorised to be kaeyas dad really. Which would be funny. And terrifying but funny.

fic idea for my lost notes of Teyvat series but!!

the way mond specifically is where anyone cast out goes is so <3 to me. little monkey brain loves the idea of it just being known for being loving and accepting of anyone new, with some pushing. Collei, albedo, kaeya- and how three of those are specifically khaenri'ah tied but heyo!! I think Collei counts because we don't know what Dottore was using + eleazar specifically comes from some dead god and which one that is could be . important. Unless they mentioned which and I'm just wrong??

Timeloop theory stuff soooo enkanomiya quest, kokomi, irminsul stuff + the sumeru reincarnate theory

timeloop theory makes more sense every day and it's just because of the sumeru reincarnations!! Which again reminds me of black boxes!!!!! Oh so you only have so much data you have to reuse souls? 🤨 okay. /j reincarnation and it's studies and theories have been around forever but not the point. Kokomi being a possible reincarnation of a primordial one could be huge. Does she work on Zelda / Hylia logic? Can she reawaken that power and memories? Can any possible reincarnation? Nahida and Rukkhadevata are literally just reincarnation, too, before the wipe. Also again, the thousand winds itself may be a primordial one-

THIS IS SPECIFICALLY MY INSANITY OVER WIND IN GENSHIN IMPACT IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO ME.

/lh j

how I jokingly said before in my fic- the wind is very important to death. Atleast to Mondstadtians! The wind carries their souls back to Mondstadt to rest. We can see Venti bring back the memory of Stanley, to bring him to Mond to rest. In the final cutscene of Ei story quest 2, in a literal plane of consciousness, the sakura blossoms of Makoto's life is taken away on the wind. This, and Istaroth, can also link the wind to time and the age old-

Seeds of story, brought by wind and cultivated by time.

The wind, as we know through Venti, can carry songs that don't exist yet, wind is constant through time!! Throughout teyvat!! And we think time could be primordial- and that primordial time goes hand in hand with the wind! Literally!!!! The wind itself/ the Thousand Winds are primordial. They carry all of time, and therefore life and death, stories and songs. Istaroth herself was a god of wind and time. Barbatos a God of wind, freedom, and music. (finally actually said by the most recent lantern rite rite calling him a "patron deity of music.") The wind itself is also sort of a guiding spirit? People usually follow it, or specifically - I have hit the nitro limit oh god - mention it with the moons- also very important to teyvat lore- the three moon sisters, the dead moon and possibly the fake sky! So!!! I personally theorise the Wind is a primordial being and that's why we have three different wind / storm gods and also andrius may count as a storm god. He was a wolf leader and god of snow storms, I think? So??? Maybe. The wind keeps splitting, that's how important it is.

If the wind stops, time stops, I believe.

So imagine if we ever went to the Mare Jirvari. And like where we've seen the corpse of every other god. It's completely frozen in time. The wind stopped there. So time cannot move. And imagine if that's where Istaroth died. that's why it's where the wind doth both blow.

[kadywicker]

Hi! Im same anon from few weeks ago thanking you for getting me into the magicians bc dopamine etc and rn Im watching s4 (near end but im rationing it. kinda) but i dont really filter spoilers so Ive seen stuff from s5 and I have to say... every single thing I read/see sounds like a fever dream and not even a fun one. What is going on? I'm not sure i want to know.

oh my god it’s miserable man i’m so sorry. s5 is..... so bad fasdfasdf i avoided watching it for a year bc i didn’t want to waste my energy trying to p*rate it. but i watched it last weekend and let me tell u..... not worth it! there’s a couple episodes that are like? okay? i guess? but mostly it’s just. terrible writing. sexism. homophobia. nonsensical plots. bad writing. more shitty writing. like. there’s some spoilers below so don’t click if u dont want spoilers but in case u want to know what’s going on (warning for spoilers and a huge wall of text):

there’s too much magic now so spells are going off the shits bc there’s so much magic. there’s a harmonic convergence coming up which will make magic go even MORE wild. a pig man from fillory shows up saying there’s going to be an apocalypse and he needs quentin to help. julia says oh shit sorry quentin’s dead but i can do it but the pig man says only STRONG MEN can do it so he fucks off to try and go find a man for the quest. julia decides to stop the apocalypse anyway, which she thinks is the harmonic convergence. so much fucking shit happens long story short they end up DESTROYING THE MOON. they crack the moon like an egg and eliot and margo get trapped in a timeloop caused by sentient whales practicing magic to keep the kraken at bay. margo gets out of the time loop leaving eliot who figures out what to do! and sends himself back in time to stop the moon from cracking. yay world saved. MEANWHILE IN FILLORY eliot and margo were thrown 300 years into fillorys future where the dark king rules. he’s got? fucking zombies or some shit hes “fighting”? i dont know i wasnt sober for half of this season. they’re hunting fairies. eliot talks about quentin in one (1) episode and cries a little before sending quentin a letter in the underworld. earlier in the episode he tried to fuck the dark king. after that he does not bring up quentin a single other time bc gay men do not get to have compelling love stories and he spends the rest of the season mooning after the dark king he met for 3 seconds before deciding actually HES the love of his life, not quentin. fen and josh are dead in the past and margo and eliot change the timeline like three times to save fen and josh! wow yay! also they can’t save quentin bc changing the timeline would be bad and disrespectful :( they can save fen and josh by altering the timeline though! at one point alice tries to make a golem of quentin to answer some questions about a page in a weird language she found in his desk but she brings back child quentin instead and he dies so it’s whatever. after the moon shit, they’re trying to find this seed that’s depicted on that page of quentin’s bc it’s the World Seed and can create whole new worlds! which is convenient bc turns out that apocalypse was NOT the apocalypse on earth but an apocalypse on fillory they think the dark king is gonna cause. turns out no, they’re going to cause it, they need to destroy fillory to stop the dark king from bringing back an army of the dead to bring back his gay lover bc gay mean are evil and bad >:( and before they destroy fillory they need to get all the fillorians in a pocket world and then put them on a new world they build with the world seed. so much shit happens i don’t even know. there’s a heist. there’s a musical episode that’s also the heist episode. eliot makes out with alice AND kady in this episode bc god likes to see me suffer. there’s a new chatwin! she’s great her name is plum and she can travel through time! she uses these time saving abilities to save hyman- you know, the really sexist perverted ghost that spies on people? yeah well she saves him. even though the narrative forbids saving quentin, they can save that fucking guy. julia is pregnant with penny 23′s baby but it’s a Super Pregnancy bc it’s red monkey month in fillory which means it goes faster. and she’s getting affected by the baby’s abilities to travel and be Psychic. fucking charlton is there he was still in eliot’s head the whole time and he gets out of eliot’s head to bother eliot but no one else can see him so they give him hyman’s body bc hyman wants to be a creepy ghost still. quentin gets brought up a few times but mostly to talk about how he ~sacrificed for those he loved~ or what the fuck ever and also to hammer in more quentin/alice like they didn’t have a like 3 month toxic relationship and he had a FIFTY YEAR RELATIONSHIP/MARRIAGE TO A MAN AND HAD AN ENTIRE CIHLD WITH HIM but ya know alice is the true love of his life bc they’re a man and a woman <3 <3 <3 the moon is sentient? i guess? there’s symbiotic aliens? fogg gets trapped in a magic acid induced drug alternate reality? and evil fogg from another timeline ends up coming through and fucking shit up? regular fogg gets back and has to hold a cat to stay sane bc all the insanity goes into a cat? fen, margo, ALICE?, and josh end up creating new fillory bc thats definitely the list of people that knew and loved fillory the most (definitely not eliot who was high king of fillory and sPENT 50 YEARS ON FILLORY WITH A HUSBAND AND SON no no he wouldn’t know about fillory), and disappear to their new fillory. the phrase “ovary up” is used no less than 7 times during the season and in the episode descriptions. kady’s barely mentioned as to what she’s doing post finale. eliot is a professor now and oh in the last FOUR FUCKING MINUTES WITH NO BUILD UP charlton kisses him and they go upstairs to fuck <3 the dark king was getting catfished by his brother martin btw bc the dark king is actually rupert chatwin and he ends up in a time bubble with jane and that’s fine while martin gets trapped in the library or some shit i don’t know. oh and plover is still alive and doing relatively fine compared to other characters who are like, dead. fen sympathizes with him isn’t that nice. there were at least 5 different opportunites to bring quentin back and they didn’t bring quentin back or leave opportunity for that. it’s bad. santa shows up for a minute? alice gets her fingers cut off and sewn back on and can’t do magic w one hand now but she’s a master magician so it turns out fine. there’s a line about “her lunacy identifies as she/her” talking about the moon, as if the magicians has any room to make pronoun jokes when they’ve had 2 trans characters that both died and weren’t even textually trans. at one point it turns out josh and fen fucked and margo tries to kill fen in a fit of jealousy and there’s a love triangle situation. fen is now a werewolf too btw. in conclusion! it fucking sucks.

[fearofaherobrine]

Roleplay Server Log #354

"Slender Tea Party”

[Yaunfen] Mom? Do you think Splenders mom is calmed down now?

[Deer] - Splender's mom?  Maybe not completely, but perhaps some...

[Yaunfen] We should invite her over for tea. That would be polite, right?

[Waffles] Rolling on the floor- purrrr

[Deer] - Yes it would, but she might be more comfortable with her children with her

[Yaunfen] Okay?

[Deer] - Do you want to do it the fancy way and send a paper invitation?  I bet Splender would love that

[Yaunfen] Yeah! I can do that! - They immediately pull out the phoneix quill, a jar of glitter, and some glue. A few flakes dift down and stick to the kitchen table-

[Waffles] Flip and begins sniffing around the edge of the table-

[Yaunfen] No! This isn't for you to play with. Mom can you play with Waffles for a minute?

[Deer] - Sure, come here Waffles!  I'll give you a belly rub

[Waffles] glancing between her and the enticing feather as Yaunfen writes-

[Deer] Clicks at Waffles and rubs her fingers together-

[Waffles] mrr?

[Yaunfen] I'm almost done - glitter sprinkles in play-

[Deer] - You know, I think I know the perfect person to deliver the invitation

[Yaunfen] Who?

[Waffles] Decides to busk Deerheart and nearly knocks her over-

[Deer] - Oof- She rubs Waffles ears- How about TLOT?

[Yaunfen] Okay! -there's a sudden hush and then the little dragon yells pretty loud- HEY TLOT!

[Waffles] Ears flat -MOW.

[Deer] Laughs a little-

[TLOT] Wanders up from downstairs, still absentmindedly carrying a bucket of milk in one hand- Hmmm?

[Deer] - We were wondering if you would like to deliver a very important message for us?

[TLOT] I guess. I could use a break anyway. Lie is going through cheese like it's going out of style. I'll have to fumigate the lab or I'll never get laid again.

[Deer] - She is?  Geez...  Anyways, Yaunfen had a wonderful idea of inviting the slenders and their mother over for tea and we were wondering if you would do the honor of delivering the invitation for us

[TLOT] Yeah okay, Let me have it. -He reaches out for the paper and Yaunfen thrusts it proudly into his hand, sprinking more glitter on the floor-

[TLOT] I see I'm not the only one with a taste for gold....

[Deer] - We do need to eventually find a way to clean that stuff up...

[Yaunfen] But it's pretty.

[TLOT] Can't argue that.

[Deer] - Yes it is, but it's getting everywhere

[Yaunfen] Sorry mama....

[TLOT] Shakes his head- Nobodies mad. You get your stuff together and I'll deliver this-

[Deer] Smiles and heads into the kitchen to start making some tea- Hopefully the rain won't make them call a rain check

[TLOT] Tromps down through the garden, the little droplets pattering on his helm.

[Navy] Gives him a smart little salute from a protected spot under a tree as he passes-

[Exeggutor] Is sitting on the shore watching Basil chase sea dragons out in the distance. The palm tree pokemon seems perfectly content to get watered by the little summer storm.

[TLOT] Stands under a tree himself by the bridge switch and calls out mentally to see whos home-

-There's Splender's happy energy, Offender's restlessness, and Mirabella's nervousness all swirling around the colorful house-

[Splender] Pokes his head out and waves at TLOT- Hello!

[TLOT] shakes off his cloak a little- mind if I come over?

[Splender] - Not at all!

[TLOT] Hits the switch and makes a quick dash through the rain and inside. - Nobody else seems to mind, but I feel like a wet cat today. I've been working in the basement and it's a bit damp down there too.

[Splender] - Do you need a towel?

[Mirabella] Is wary-

[TLOT] Nah, I'll just turn my glitch up a bit, it doesn't help if I'm still out in it. - He focuses for a moment and begins to lightly steam-

[Offender] - So why are you over here?

[TLOT] Came to deliver this actually. - He holds up the folded page and a little bit of gold sparkle wafts out-

[Splender] - Oooh!- He takes it and opens it before gasping happily- A tea party!?  Absolutely!

[TLOT] I thought that would appeal to you. - He gives the smallest cough- Aren't you going to introduce me to your mom? She looks nervous.

[Splender] - Oh!  I'm sorry!  TLOT, this is my mother Mirabella.  Mother?  This is TLOT, he's one of the entities who runs things around here and runs the village that I feed from!

[TLOT] Takes his helm off like a gentlemen and his hair is flufy and a bit mussed underneath. - I am Herobrine the Lord of Tears. It's lovely to meet you.

[Mirabella] - Ah, hello.  I hope I am not intruding here?

[TLOT] Not at all! We've had some rocky encounters with Slenderman before, but we're trying to build a real alliance with him and his family. This is a place of refuge and it sounds like that is something that you could benifit from.

[Mirabella] - I see, he was always a calculating one, and that scared me.  Because it reminded me so much of his father

[TLOT] He's pretty serious. But Doc is equally serious about protecting the people they care about. And in hiding Splender, they have a lot of common ground. We all love having him here.

[Mirabella] - I am just happy he is alive

[TLOT] Me too. - He gives Splender a grateful look- He helped save me from a terrible monster.

[Splender]  Gives a happy smile-

[Offender] - Yeah, he can fight when motivated

[Mirabella] - He fights?  But, he's my happy child...

[TLOT] He fought to defend, and the cause was just. I only have a few small villages here, but I am the god-king of a whole other world. As far as I'm concerned, he saved them too.

[Mirabella] - I see...

[Offender] - Hey, it's okay...  He's still Splender

[TLOT] They added him to their pantheon in thanks as well. He's just as adored there as here.

[Offender] - Meaning he has an over abundance of food here...  Unlike me...

[TLOT] To be fair... your tastes are harder to satiate...

[Offender] Sticks his tongue out at TLOT-

[TLOT] Opens his hands helplessly- I'm not unsympathetic, but I can't just bring you a sacrificial virgin either. Although... not to be indelicate... but is it true your victims don't have to be humanoid for you to feed?

[Offender] - No, they don't, why?

[TLOT] Because I know something utterly unique you can fuck without bothering anyone. Can you hold your breath long?

[Offender] - I don't have to breathe at all

[TLOT] Even better. - He thumbs out at the bay. - Fuck one of the sea dragons. They're decently large and it will be completly unlike anything you've had before. They're barely sentient and Basil eats them all the time.

[Offender] Seriously considers it-

[TLOT] Feels his thoughts and smiles softly- I hope that works. We like to make guests feel welcome. Most of us know what it's like to be a stranger in a hostile land.

[Offender] - Eh if it doesn't work out there's always that pig

[TLOT] Ah, Hock. I was very aware of your session with him. You seem quite talented, and he enjoyed it immensly. But afterwards Cp screamed at him and made him cry. Perhaps next time you should play away from Lie's builds. I would reccomend an upper room in the castle or the signalling tower next time. Just for the sake of diplomacy.

[Offender] - Fucking anywhere is fine

[Mirabella] - Offender language

[Offender] - What?

[TLOT] As I said, for diplomacy. Presumably you have the decorum to not upset Cp's wife intentionally. Hock knows not to do that there again and you'll likely be the one he's mad at if it happens.

[Offender] - I don't care, he can't do anything to me

[TLOT] It wasn't a threat. I'm merely asking nicely.

[Splender] - Well we should get ready for the tea party!

[TLOT] Well you don't need to bring anything and- he closes his eyes  - Yaunfen is just about set up.

[Splender] - Oh goody!  Let's go mother!

[Mirabella] - Ah, I am not certain...

[TLOT] Oh please? It was the little ones idea.

[Mirabella] - I...  I suppose I could try..

[Offender] - I'll sit this one out

[TLOT] Are you sure? - he speaks to Offender mentally- If only because having her sons around seems to make her calmer. You are not unwelcome.

[Offender] - Nah, don't wanna overcrowd stuff

[TLOT] Okay. I'll just Tp you directly so you don't get soaked. Just don't emp or anything, it's totally safe.

[Mirabella] - Alright...

[TLOT] Tp's himself, Mirabella and Splender into the vine room, clipping out of Deerheart for a moment and sliding away.

[Yaunfen] Yay! You came!

-The vine room has a table in the middle of it and several of the wool block plus door type chairs Gem came up with to better fit the Slenders.

[TLOT] I think I have something to contribute if you'll excuse me for a moment.

[Splender] - Hello!

[Deer] - Welcome, you must be Mirabella

[Mirabella] - Ah yes, and you are?

[Yaunfen] This is my mom Deerheart! She's the whole server. And I'm Yaunfen.

[Mirabella] - The whole server?

[Deer] - Everything around you is a part of me

[Yaunfen] She's like a goddess.

[Mirabella] - A goddess?

[TLOT] Comes back up with several hot cheerie pies-

[Yaunfen] Uh huh! - They start running a brewing stand and the smell of tea wafts around the room. - She can talk to mobs and they do what she asks. Even make it rain or stop and check on anyone anywhere and see if they're okay without moving an inch.

[Mirabella] - Such strength...

[Deer] - It's really not that much, you should see what Flux can do, then again she's had a lot more experience than me

[TLOT] She's also one of the kindest people I know.

[Deer] Is just blushing now

[Splender] - Come on mother, sit down

[Yaunfen] pulls out some sugar and a bucket of milk - I like mine sweet with both. How about you guys?

[TLOT] Same please.

[Splender] - Sugar all the way!

[Mirabella] - I...  Do not know, I am not used to forming my mouth or human customs...

[Deer] - Just a little of each Yaunfen

[Yaunfen] Okay. They make the other cups and pass them -Just try it like it is and see if it needs anything. I love sugar!

[TLOT] Well it is your main food source. You eat stuff that makes my teeth hurt sometimes.

[Yaunfen] Giggles-

[Mirabella] Looks down into her steaming cup-

[Splender] Happily takes his tea and thanks Yaunfen- It is good mother, just try it

[Yaunfen] Pulls out a sponge cake block-

[TLOT] How many of those are you carrying kiddo?

[Yaunfen] Ummm.... I had five this morning, looks like seven now!

-There's a tearing sound as Mirabella opens her mouth, revealing a mouth full of needle like teeth as a bit of black blood dribbles from the corner of her mouth-

[Splender] Is just happily humming-

[Yaunfen] Is a little startled but offers her a wool square [as a napkin] -

[Mirabella] - Oh, thank you...- She dabs at the blood- It's been a long time since I last opened my mouth

[Yaunfen] Whoah.... so you don't need to breathe?

[TLOT] So... how are you finding our little corner of the world?

[Mirabella] - No, breathing isn't a necessity for us.  And it is, odd, at least compared to what I have lived with my entire life

[TLOT] Yeah, even some of the brines aren't used to the low resolution. The server is set to defaults, Doc says it makes things run smoother if the loading distance isn't too high either.

[Yaunfen] So if you go really fast and suddenly see down into the ground, it's okay! - They're cutting cake and pie and making little plates to pass around.

[Mirabella] - Seeing into the ground?

[Yaunfen] Yeah! The world will just go invisible for a moment. But it's okay, it's still there.

[TLOT] It's a digital enviroment. If there's no one around, the world kind of... well it doesn't cease to exist really. Just kinda... rests. And it springs back up again when someone gets close.

[Deer] - It feels a little weird when somebody loads new chunks

[TLOT] If you want we can show you the map later. It's pretty extensive. We've done a decent amount of exploring but it's still a drop in the bucket compared to how big this world is. You could walk for years and never reach one edge.

[Mirabella] - I see- She tries a small sip of the tea

[TLOT] Have you shown your mom around at all Splender?

[Splender] - Not yet, Offender has said to wait so she doesn't get overwhelmed

[Yaunfen] Overwhelmed?

[TLOT] Is it just too different of an enviroment?

[Mirabella] - Partially, and it's such a different atmosphere than I'm used to...

[TLOT] Ah.... I take it your home... dimension? [he's unsure of the term] Is not so... relaxed?

[Mirabella] - Not at all.  The rules are so very strict, especially for a household with our status

[Yaunfen] We have rules here too. -big grin because they've memorized them -  No griefing and no stealing!

[TLOT] That is correct.

[Mirabella] - Why would anybody do that?

[TLOT] Well... we are a server full of Herobrines. Our kind has a reputation for malcious mischief.

[Yaunfen] Mada says Cp was really 'murdery' when he came in.

[TLOT] He was... Herobrines are... not generally liked. We're usually shunned and many of us delight in killing players. But the players aren't really here? Their avatars are killed and they are inconvenienced and possibly fightened, but they continue to exist out in the real world. Cp is the only Herobrine we know of who could leave the digital sphere and travel to the real world. He's used this talent to make many of us able to preform the same trick.

[Splender] - He was taught that by BEN!  One of the entities that brother looks after!

[Mirabella] - Oh, I see

[Yaunfen] BEN is stinky. But he's pretty cool otherwise.

[TLOT] Laughs-

[Mirabella] - Stinky?

[TLOT] He's afraid of water. And human enough to get dirty because of it. Getting him to bathe is a nightmare.

[Mirabella] - Oh, I see

[Splender] - Try some of the cake mother!

[Yaunfen] It's from my home seed!

[TLOT] A big chunk of it actually. Yaunfen's home seed is mostly edible. The ground itself is a type of cake.

[Mirabella] Breaks off a tiny piece and tries it- It is certainly...  Flavorful...

[Yaunfen] Big grin- Yep! Oh, Splender! I have a neat thing to show you! - They rustle around and take out two of the mushrollems- I revived fossils! - The smell of cinnamon and sugary orange is thick around the small fungi.

[TLOT] Yaunfen is really taking after Doc. We have a machine that takes things apart and will give spores and seeds from fossils.

[Splender] - Those are so wonderful!  I love them Yaunfen!

[Yaunfen] I've got more! They're really tasty. - Sets a few on a plate-

[Waffles] wanders upstairs with a sleepy yawn.

[Mirabella] Grows tense at the sight of the large cat, having flashbacks to some of the creatures in her home dimension-

[Yaunfen] Gets up and hugs Waffles around the neck - This is my kitty Waffles! They're candy colored like me! - Pats the swirly white curls of fur on their back with little rainbow sprinkle spots.

[Waffles] Loud purr.

[TLOT] Another revival. Doc found a fossil tooth and we got DNA from it.

[Mirabella] - It...  It's like a Doodverskaffer

[Yaunfen] That's a funny word. - Xe's rubbing the big cats cheeks and making their whiskers go up and down-

[TLOT] They're pretty harmless. Their diet is exclusively chocolate, and various sweets. It's just that their home is full of gummy fish, chocolate chickens, and cows that give sweet vanilla milk.

[Mirabella] - Doodverskaffer's are horrible creatures...  They...  They stalk the realm, devouring what ever they can and are commonly used as guard animals.  They stalk the yards non stop and if you are not their master...

[Yaunfen] That's so mean! Waffles doesn't stalk anything. Well, except my feather pen.

[TLOT] That is rather grim. It's no wonder Slender is so serious. As the oldest he likely remembers this all the most vividly.

[Deer] - Yaunfen, why don't you take Waffles down stairs and feed them

[Yaunfen] Okay mama. - at the cat- Do you want some fishies?

[Waffles] happy purrs, super loud-

[Yaunfen] I'll be right back! - Takes the cat downstairs-

[Mirabella] - Thank you

[Deer] - We don't want you to be uncomfortable Mirabella

[TLOT] Same. There's no one here who would harm you. And while the wild mobs can be a threat, you're far too tall and intimidating for any to even try.

[Mirabella] - I'm sorry, there's still so much for me to get used to

[TLOT] Sits back comfortably -Ah, it's okay. This is a pretty calm enviroment. The name of the game is survival, but once you get a decent house and a garden set up it becomes pretty easy.

[Splender] - The only problem may be finding food for you mother, there aren't many people who are lonely here...

[TLOT] Lonely? Well there are a few. There's the male server... he's perpetually lonely. And Steffan, forever unlucky in love. Alexsezia has her occasional bad days too.

[Splender] - I'll keep them in mind

[Mirabella] - No need to rush, I'm not terribly hungry at the moment

[TLOT] I could muster a little.... - he focuses on his want for Steve- My mate noped for the day because I was making something that... offends his senses.

[Yaunfen] Comes back up- TLOT made the stinky cheese!

[Mirabella] Can taste the loneliness and takes small amounts.  It feels different then when Splender feeds-

[TLOT] Lets his feelings overwhelm him a little - I'm psychic, it's okay.

[Mirabella] Only takes a little more before stopping-

[Steve] Over chat- TLOT..? Are you okay?

[TLOT] Answers him mentally to reassure him-

[Yaunfen] Aww.

[Splender] - The kids in the village are not terribly happy today, they can't play much out in the rain

[Yaunfen] But I'm happy! You can have it. - They hug Splenders arm- It's been a pretty good day!

[Splender] Laughs and picks Yaunfen up to hug them better- Yes you have!  I can feel it!

[Yaunfen] Flicks their little tail around. - Yes!

[TLOT] Oh! Mirabella. Let me show you something. Usually Doc does this, but I think I know how to do it now. - He tweaks a little coding and turns her display on-

[Mirabella] Is surprised- What is this?

[TLOT] It keeps track of your heath and what you're carrying. Part of the game is gathering raw materials and crafting them into tools, food and other useful things.

[Mirabella] - I see...

[TLOT] I know you've met Doc already. They built this house. Every chunk of stone was mined with a pickaxe and placed deliberately. The glass was sand from the nearby desert, the wool in the floor sheared from sheep and on and on.

[Mirabella] - Such work, and so much for one person to do

[Yaunfen] It's fun! It's like a big treasure hunt.

[TLOT] It's like life really. Little things add up. And the ones who live here, we like to create.

[Mirabella] - That's good

[Splender] Puts Yaunfen down- Well I'm stuffed now!

[Yaunfen] Yay!

[TLOT] Maybe we could think of something relaxing for you to do? Splender lives by the water. You should try going fishing. It's pretty simple, and if you don't want the fish it gives you an excuse to be introduced to our friend Alexsezia.

[Yaunfen] And play with the kittens, they're super tiny!

[Mirabella] - Fishing?  I...  I don't know what that is

[TLOT] All the more reason to try it. - He goes to one of the crafting tables and makes a quick rod from one of the random junk trunks around the walls. - You shouldn't try to cast it in here. But take it for later. - Offers it to her.

[Mirabella] Takes it and turns it over in her hands-

[Deer] - I'm sure your son would be more than happy to show you how to use it

[Yaunfen] You can do mom and kid stuff! That'll be cool.

[Mirabella] - Mom and kid stuff?

[TLOT] Yaunfen means like bonding.

[Yaunfen] Mom and I do lots of stuff together, me and mada too. It's fun.

[Deer] - It's fun, I promise

[Yaunfen] Oh! I could show you my seed too, it's really neat!

[TLOT] Provided you like sugar of course. Heh.

[Mirabella] - I think I've had enough excitement for today

[Yaunfen] It's okay, days are short and theres always lots of them. - nod nod-

[TLOT] I'm not sure what kind of timescale you're used too, but Yaunfen is right. Days and nights are shorter then on Earth, but time itself affects us a lot less,

[Mirabella] - There is barely a difference between night and day in our dimension

[TLOT] Is it perhaps like our End? The ground is lit, but the sky is perpetually darkened.

[Mirabella] Is unsure how to describe it and so gives a weak mental burst showing what looks like a dark overcast day in a dull gray world-

[TLOT] That would make for a grim state of mind... It's good to get out in the sun now and then.

[Mirabella] - There is no sun there

[TLOT] Maybe that's why you don't have eyes most of the time? Because you're not attuned to having much light to begin with?

[Mirabella] - I do not know

[Yaunfen] Ooo, does that mean you can do the echo locator noise? Like Ashe and our pet bats? They see with noises.

[Splender] - Well, we still have eyes, they're just usually hidden.  Our sight, well, I'm not really sure how to explain it

[TLOT] You know I can read you easily if you want to show me.

[Yaunfen] Do you have weird heat vision or something? Ooh! Tell me if I look weird!

[Splender] Opens his mind to TLOT to see-

[TLOT] Ah, so just very focused. And open in a way that's preternatural. I understand. Yaunfen, it's... just a hunters vision, very forward and precise for whats right in front.

[Yaunfen] Oh, that makes sense. Anybody want a cattail? - pulls out some of the peppermint cattails and snaps one off to suck on idly-

[Mirabella] Puts down her cup- Our eyes all vary in color, and they are usually only visible when we are angry

[TLOT] Herobrines often keep their eyes hidden most of the time as well. Either for sneaking purposes since the light can give us away, or more personal reasons.

[Yaunfen] Cp has green eyes. TLOT has gold!

[Splender] - I prefer your bright eyes!

[TLOT] Me too. I feel like I can't see as well if I move my glow. But it is what it is underneath.

[Splender] - My eyes are red!

[TLOT] smiles- I haven't seen them myself, but Doc did give me a very vivid view of your heroic battle against my NOTCH.

[Splender] Laughs a bit nervously over that-

[Yaunfen] You helped get rid of the huge meanie. That was so cool. And Lie's plant bit him and dragged him like that and that! - Is swinging around a mushrollem for emphasis.

[TLOT] At Mirabella- We have other entities that are supposed to check our individual powers. Sometimes they are... unkind. Thankfully his replacement seems to be merely frustrated with me and not actually harmful.

[Mirabella] - I know all to well how it is to be in the shadow of something terrifying

[Yaunfen] That's when you get big! Then the meanies back off. Or you get your friends to help you.

[TLOT] Just don't be big in here please.

[Yaunfen] I know. I can't go through the walls like mada...

[Mirabella] - Sometimes it's not so easy

[TLOT] We shall see. I'm aware of what we're facing. But the wicker man doesn't realize that this is veritible touchie hive that shouldn't be kicked.

[Yaunfen] Those guys can pinch!

[Mirabella] Just kinda shrinks into herself in uncertainty-

[TLOT] Yaunfen makes a good point. Touchies are very small. They buzz around and touch things to make them grow, they also make a very sweet syrup that can be fermented. They're peaceful creatures. But there are also a lot of them. Each individual can deliver a stinging pinch. Just one can hurt, and several can make an animal go running mad from the pain, but all at once... they can kill. Little things can be important.

[Splender] - Don't worry, we'll deal with father when it comes time for it

[TLOT] And we'll do it together.

[Yaunfen] We'll kick his butt!

[Mirabella] - We shall see

-There's a whoosh far above and the flames above the glass ceiling flicker as the air passes over them-

[Splender] Looks up- Hm?

[Yaunfen] Was looking up- Mada!

[TLOT] Heh. Looks like Doc is home.

-there's some thumping far above as they phase into the ceiling and transform as they accordian into the hallway by the horse pen one floor up-

[Deer] - We're in here love!

[Doc] Comes down the steps- Oh! Did I inturrupt something?

[Yaunfen] Runs over to hug them - we're having a tea party!

[Doc] Awww. That's sweet. - looks- And Splender gets some actual tea. I found out that Sally just likes the pretend type.

[Splender] - Or juice!  Sometimes I'll treat her with that!

[Doc] Chuckles- I tried to play with her and made her some real tea. She said it was yucky. I guess it's just a matter of preference.

[Yaunfen] Wanna mushrollem? - Xe still holding it-

[Doc] Sure. - Xe takes it and munches on it before approaching- This was certainly a good idea for a dreary day. I think it's going to really storm tonight.

[Splender] - Oh, I hope Pinwheel doesn't try to go out then...

[TLOT] Was she there? I didn't see her so I thought she might be out playing with Crim again.

[Splender] - No, since Offender is here she's been staying with Lie's friend!

[Doc] I heard she was getting along with Karla. It's nice to see her making another friend.

[TLOT] At Mirabella - Have you met Pinwheel yet? She's adopted but kind of Splender's daughter.

[Splender] Happily nods-

[Mirabella] - No, I have not, although I have heard about them

[Yaunfen] She's a dragon like me, only way fluffier.

[Doc] Just be careful, she's bitey.

[Splender] - But her venom doesn't effect our type

[Doc] Well, if you want to befriend her, it's best to not do things that make her bite you anyway. She gets overstimulated and lashes out. It's better to talk quietly to her and telegraph your movements so she isn't startled.

[Mirabella] - I see

[Doc] Also if you scratch her neck fluff she'll flop over and purr.

[TLOT] She's still young.

[Splender] - I love when she purrs!

[Doc] She's a fine dragon. And you're shaping up to be a good dad.

[Splender] Radiates happy energy-

[Mirabella] Releases a calm energy-

[TLOT] It's one of Doc's little projects that's really spread a lot of joy around the seed. One of our meanest Herobrines has calmed down immensely under the responsibility of caring for a small dragon. He still doesn't smile often, but if someone touched one scale on Celine with intent to harm he'd rip them to bits.

[Doc] Leans toward Yaunfen and ruffles their hair lovingly.

[Yaunfen] hehe.

[Deer] - Everyone one here is rescued in one way or another, even the children in the village

[TLOT] Even me. - glances at Doc.

[Doc] Little blush. - I just wanted some place to call home, and sharing it with others who have the same wish, well... that makes me even happier.

[Splender] - And it shows!

[Doc] Pulls up a chair for Yaunfen and sits down as well. - The more time I spend out there, the more I just want to be here. I like simple things.

[TLOT] Like cheesemaking?

[Doc] What? Yes, I suppose so.

[TLOT] Then you should take a turn. Steve is not happy with the stink I've been brewing up.

[Doc] I heard Lie was eating it a lot....

[Yaunfen] It's for the baby right?

[Mirabella] - Baby?

[TLOT] Babies don't normally like cheese, at least, I don't think they do?

[Doc] One of our friends is having a child of her own. The first we know of concieved between two Herobrine type entities. It's a really special thing.

[Mirabella] - I see- She rests a hand on her own stomach- I remember only a few of the cravings I had

[TLOT] Well Lie has been all about a type of special cheese that only smells good to our type of entity.

[Yaunfen] It's sparkly but it smells terrible!

[TLOT] My point exactly.

[Mirabella] - There was a plant in our dimension which could curb the urgings of the craving...

[Doc] Ah, it's a harmless thing. We can provide easily.

[TLOT] Lifts a finger-

[Doc] Yes, I will take a turn.

[TLOT] Thank you.

[Splender] Looks up at the sky- It's getting dark, we should probably be getting back home...

[TLOT] I can Tp you both to Offender if you don't want to walk...?

[Splender] - That would be nice, thank you

[Yaunfen] It was nice to meet you slendermom! -more politely- Thank you Splender for bringing Mirabella over. I had fun!

[TLOT] Me as well. - He's typing out the teleport-

[Splender] - You're very welcome!  It was a wonderful tea party Yaunfen!- The teleport then takes them and they are gone

[Deer] - Well that was a nice visit

[onelinemanytimes]

Holy cow that’s a lot of stuff about Fresh.

So, I see you know that Fresh exists. A lot of people have a lot of ideas about Fresh, and while some are delightful, some just don’t make any sense. I’m here to unofficially address some of the things I see about his character that I wish I didn't, so buckle up folks, this is gonna be a long post.

PLEASE NOTE that I am NOT CQ. Never have been, never will be(?), and despite my best efforts I don't know everything about Fresh. To be honest, there are aspects that I'll headcanon the heck out of, especially in regards to his magic and how possession works and what have you, but I try to make sure it makes sense with what I DO know- some of it's probably wrong. I accept that. BUT YA BETTER BELIEVE THAT I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH ON WHATEVER'S AVAILABLE.

Alright, so, first things first that I see a lot.

"Fresh Sans i-"

Wrong, already you're off. If you try to sell UnderFresh/FreshTale to me as canon, I will unfortunately dunk you faster than Sans when you spare him. Let me make this very clear: A TRUE FRESHTALE DOES NOT EXIST.

Now, don't get me wrong- FreshTale can exist if you want! If you want a Universe of 90's hip-hop style, lingo and bad choices then go for it. This Is Not Fresh. There is no Fresh Sans- that's Sans Undertale, who happens to be Fresh's current host. Fresh has fortunately claimed a different, taller (not Papyrus) skeleton in the world of Lucidia, So not even his host is Sans anymore. If you're talking about the canon Fresh, do not say Fresh Sans/Undyne/anyone else from Undertale. Just say Fresh! Or maybe Fresh in a X host. That works too.

Keep in mind, Fresh has no universe, not really. He doesn’t come from anywhere, he exists outside of that kind of logic. It’s just him- and, well, another one that we the people made. A better version. That’s some complicated deep stuff though and trying to get into all of THAT takes a lot more background. Suffice to say, Fresh is the only Fresh, and while he can produce more parasites Asexually, he’s the only him.

“Ok, fine. Fresh is a parasite, but he can still like/dislike/care about/ect. X.”

Wrong again! People seem to think Fresh likes things- unfortunately, that’s really hard to do when YOU CAN’T FEEL AT ALL. That’s right y’all. Fresh, contrary to what people believe, doesn’t care about you, your family, your money, nope. If he could be argued to care about anything, that’s HIMSELF. Because he wants to live. He may, by extension, prefer hosts with more magic to feed off of (More food! Yay! More living!), or that are less conspicuous (I dare you to count the number of Sans that exist. Bet you can’t. It’s infinite. What’s one Sans out of eleventy-badjillion.), but really as long as you’ll keep him alive and well, you’ll do.

However, while Fresh cannot feel and cannot truly understand emotion in his basic, vanilla form, he knows what fear is like. It’s the fear of Death that keeps him going after all- why would survival matter if he didn’t care whether or not he died? It wouldn’t, honestly. There’s an extension to this fear as well- the fear of being replaced, especially by… well, himself. He knows that we, the people controlling everything, exist. He also knows that on a whim, we could end him in moments, or replace him with a better, more entertaining version of himself.

I think we can cut him a bit of slack in that regard. Survival is dependent on Fear- the whole fight or flight thing, knowing when a situation is dangerous, knowing when something will probably hurt or be a bad idea, that’s a fear thing. If Fresh is going to be a sentient being he’s gonna feel at least a little fear in his life. Although, for a while there, fear was a hard thing to make him feel, because he was pretty sure he was simply better than everyone else. He probably hadn’t experienced much in the way of losing a fight, both when it comes to controlling hosts or magic V magic fights with mad people.

I’ll elaborate on how much fun an emotional fresh is after a few more points. Now:

“Fresh is weak, or a joke.”

You make me laugh, pretend speaker of unfortunately wrong statements. It seems you have been fooled by Fresh’s Persona- his gaudy, 90s, friendly, weak persona. I hope you never meet Fresh in real life, because you’d be foolishly drawn into a sense of security by the fact that Fresh acts the fool. Please, take notice: HE ACTS. the fool.

Fresh is absolutely, definitely, not a fool. He doesn’t understand emotion, he doesn’t have emotion, but he is VERY smart. Being smart is a very good way to survive.

So then why is he outwardly ridiculous so much? It’s apparently not because he feels like people should be nice and good and happy, according to me, so what’s the deal? I ask you to consider the situation: You’re at a bus stop and there’s someone waiting there. They show no emotional cues, stare straight into your eyes, and hardly move. Their voice is flat and as far as you can tell they have no interests, besides possibly kidnapping you for who-knows what. Hmm… sounds like someone… I don’t want to be around……

Now consider instead, you go to the bus stop and see a happy, colorful figure standing there having a very animated conversation with someone else. His sense of fashion may be a few decades late, as well as his speech patterns, but he’s so much more approachable! Look at him, smiling and shooting you fingerguns and talking about the new furbies he’s gotten- very rare angel furby apparently, he’s in love already- you’d be much more willing to be his friend!

Fresh want’s friends. Not because he’s lonely, but because they’re easy to use. Friends are more willing to protect you if someone else attacks you. Friends are more willing to believe your side of the story, and put up with a few little quirks now and then. Friends make very, very good hosts. If you aren’t expecting it, there’s no way you’re going to be able to get away from Fresh if he’s got you where he wants you, somewhere private where there’s no one to see him take you, no one to save you, not even a chance to scream…

Being friendly is the key to survival. Of course he’s going to act the fool. NEVER underestimate Fresh. He’s counting on it. He will use you if you give him the chance because he simply doesn’t care.

I do have a quick note though! One thing that I headcanon a bit is that when he gives advice he really does mean it. Don’t Do Drugs! Be a nice person! Stay Hydrated Kids! He probably legitimately wants you to do these things. After all, if you’re taking care of yourself, you’ll make a much better host! Drugs cause all kinds of problems- If the host body has an addiction, Fresh has to deal with all the physical withdrawal symptoms because guess what, if something’s wrong with your body, it’s going to have to be dealt with when Fresh controls you. Broken legs? Not a great host. Easily sick? Not preferable. Trying to get over an addiction? What a hassle. Stay healthy so Fresh can have a nice functional host when he gets to you, ok?

“Fresh is still a good person though! He can’t help being a parasite, that doesn’t mean he can’t be convinced to be better!”

You sound like a Papyrus! Sorry but I hope you also never meet Fresh. You’d also probably die. Heck I’d probably die if I met Fresh. He’s really dangerous y’all.

Here are some possible side effects of emotionlessness!

A: You don’t care.

B: You don’t care.

C: You really, really DON’T CARE.

...really hard concept, I know. Of course, not everyone thinks extensively on what exactly “not caring” means for you, so I’ll give you a run down! I ask that you think a bit about Flowey as well. Flowey lost emotions after having them and became a bad person. Fresh started with nothing and had no morals. Now let’s see what that might do to you!

First of all, this means that you don’t care about other people. Their problems, and most importantly, their life, does not matter to you. If Fresh is helping you with something there’s probably going to be something in it for him too. Now, because Fresh doesn’t care about your life, nothing that happens to you matters! Depressed? Oh well! In pain? Not his problem, unless it starts interfering with your usefulness!

He knows he’s more powerful than you. If you’re his host, you are completely at his mercy- his non existent, parasitic mercy. If Fresh thinks he needs to prove a point, he’s not afraid to. By any means necessary. Does that mean torture? Does that mean making you watch as he ruins your life? Does that mean possessing you more than once because you wouldn’t keep your stupid mouth shut? Ok. If it works, why wouldn’t he do those things? And, even more than that, if it’s more efficient, why wouldn’t he decide to just cut straight to the point? It’s not like YOU can do anything about it. You’re basically a dead man walking.

It doesn’t stop there though. This is stepping a bit more into the shady waters of “maybe” as far as fresh’s character goes, but it’s been mentioned once or twice. Fresh knows that he’s better than you (as evidenced by the fact that you can’t exactly stop him when you’re the host), and honestly? He knows he can get away with a lot. He Canonically infected hundred of people for what amounted to nothing more than “because I can.” THAT’S Fresh. That’s just one example. He knows what he’s able to do, and why not do that as long as it’s not putting him in danger?

You’ll see him pushing the boundaries a lot- him an error have some sort of weird relationship that we’re not really sure about, but considering just how uncomfortable ERROR is about Fresh, that’s kinda a sign that “maybe there’s something wrong here.” Error has destroyed entire universes (at the very least, he has when he was still Sans. All we know about lucidia Error is that he’s dressed like a freakin’ hobo.), and he’s been shown as having a great distrust and dislike when it comes to Fresh.

Error happens to be lucky though. His Soul glitching out could potentially cut True Fresh in half and that’s not something Fresh is particularly into, so the chances of Error ever getting possesed are nearly zero. We’ll just have to see what CQ has in mind.

“You keep talking about True Fresh, is that different from Fresh somehow?”

No, True Fresh and Fresh are the same person. When I say Fresh, I’m implying Fresh when he’s in a host and actually able to talk and do things. True Fresh is the actual parasite that is Fresh. The vaguely Starfish-slug-eyeball hybrid that crawls around infecting people and ruining everyone’s life. That’s what I mean when I say True Fresh.

Right now, True Fresh’s physical capacities are a bit vague? We know that hostless, True Fresh is very very weak. One good stomp on his eye would put him out of commision forever, and he’s not exactly very durable. Beyond that, I’m not entirely sure about the details? I’ve asked questions before about some things and have some solid answers- such as the fact that True Fresh can’t talk (but he screeches! Fun!) and can’t drown, but as far as things like physical strength and whether or not he emits slime… I have no idea. I’d like to think he’s a bit slimey and able to climb up stuff because it’s sticky, but I don’t know for sure so don’t ask me.

In short: Imagine four slugs that are purple. Connect them all together with their faces touching, like a starfish. Now give it a big eye right in the middle that’s also kinda a mouth with pointly lil’ teeth. That’s True Fresh. Probably about the size of a fist. I don’t think a specific size has ever been given. All I know is that they’re definitely small enough to fit uncomfortably into someone’s mouth, but not small or flexible enough to get in anywhere else unless you have a reasonably sized open wound.

*Side note, his teeth!! I’ve seen a few interpretations as to how placement is, but it’s the cutest part. Smol pointy teeth pokin’ out ready for the chompin!! It would be cute if it wasn’t terrifying.

“But I’ve seen emotional Fresh things from people with the CQ seal of approval! What does it mean??”

Nyeh heh heh, my homie, this is a fun topic right here. What your talking about is a variation on the vanilla fresh where he gains emotions- AND BOY IS IT FUN! You see, because Fresh started out emotionless, He’s basically started out at 0. Maybe 1, if he’s got fear going for him.

Now go from 1 ALL THE WAY TO INFINITY.

Or, alternatively, a general build up of emotions that he may not even notice at first until “Oh my gosh what am I doing this doesn’t make sense why I’m I getting so irrational about this thing”

That’s insane! He felt nothing before then! That’s like giving a college professor the emotional disposition of a 5 year old! IT’S A MESS! But a fun, wonderful to explore mess.

Especially if Fresh had the opportunity to do some real bad things before he got emotions.

Everything is a big deal for a while! That furby you had before you even really cared about it? It’s never going to leave your ownership. The person you were trying to befriend so you’d have an easy host for later? Crap. You, accidentally legitimately befriended them and now you can’t bring yourself to do it, even though it’s putting you at risk. That time someone made fun of the way you looked, and they took it too far, and maybe you were having a bad day? Guess what kind of hell they’re about to get.

The thing is, the way Fresh ends up depends entirely on what he did pre-emotion, and how he got his emotions. I’d like to bring up @alainaprana ‘s Kid Fresh- AND PLEASE NOTE! KID FRESH IS NOT TRUE FRESH! THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE WITH SEPARATE STORIES AND SEPARATE EXPERIENCES! However, this is an easy way to make my point.

Kid Fresh was born emotionless, and lived in a fairly good environment. He was never given the chance to develop any bad habits, living with a supportive family (minus error), and he didn’t have the same problem True Fresh has. Namely, the problem of being a soul-eating parasite that has to kill to continue living. So he got his emotions, and bad things definitely happened! He got sick because of the intensity of everything, and felt way too hard and had it pretty rough for a while! But eventually he grew up to do some pretty great things, being healthy and in a great friendship and generally? Ending up good.

Parasite Fresh, however, has a lot more problems going for him than Kid Fresh. There's a very good reason why Fresh is emotionless, most importantly because empathy is killer to him. He absolutely cannot care about people if he wants to survive in the best possible way he can. For every one person he would befriend that would be another source of magic that he’s not getting. Eventually he’d run out of hosts or his friends would turn on him, and neither one of those outcomes are great. Being emotionless also means you’re less likely to cause a scene, because you don't get worked up about anything! Nothing gets under your skin. Except maybe a death threat from someone who could actually conceivably kill you.

This section is about if Fresh gains emotions though, you know the basic backstory of emotionlessness  now. First you have to consider how he got his emotions. Was it gained slowly over time, building itself into existence until it started getting out of his control? That's going to cause problems. I’d like to draw your attention now to @neon--nightmare ‘s Fresh, who is ALSO TECHNICALLY NOT CANON! It’s very good though. Situated in GloomVerse instead of Undertale (or even better, Lucidia) but that’s not too big a problem for our purposes.

This is a Fresh that's been going down the buildup path. He started out exactly like Canon Fresh, but his story took him through The Loveball (essential rp for Fresh’s character) as well as A Meeting with Himself (Also Really important). He knows that if he starts screwing up, we, the people in control, could replace him real easy.

Fresh started out terrified at the least, and for good reason! However, as time passed, there started to be some small things that add up to a lot. One of the most obvious things is his near obsession with Wallis, and not the positive kind of obsession. He’s tried to kill Wallis at least twice, or done things that would end up with him dying, because he's worried about something that Wallis is doing. (Please note that Wallis is still alive partially through plot armor, but I mean, because we already know fresh knows we exist you could argue that he might realize Wallis has some sort of protection, but that’s really Meta and personally not what I think neon is going for.)

Wallis, meanwhile? He’s trying to help Fresh, and Fresh can't handle that. WHY would Wallis be helping him? Fresh nearly killed him multiple times- and remember! Life is EVERYTHING to Fresh! If you nearly killed Fresh but let him live you’d better watch your back. But instead of getting a response like that to his literal torture of this GloomVerse Star, he gets… what almost feels like pity? Regret? An honest, true desire to try and HELP Fresh, Because he needs the help.

The implications of that to Fresh are HUGE! Ignore the fact that Fresh is very definitely grieving the loss of a true actual friend (which was also a mistake) at the Loveball, and the fact that Fresh Knows he has to act “right” or risk getting thrown out and simply replaced by us, but the fact that he needs help is a big problem. He was made to be self-sufficient, an uncaring parasite that’s got a fun, although fake, persona. Now instead he’s a stressful mess that breaks down at a pointed mention of ‘them’ and is trying to desperately hide the fact that he's gaining emotions and it’s bad.

Things to consider with the gradual build up though. Has he stopped taking hosts? No, Although considering he took Wallis twice or so he's not exactly being as efficient anymore. Has he stopped being cruel? More the opposite, if anything he’s now more dangerous than ever in that regard, if you happen to push any of his feel buttons and freak him out enough to see you as a risk. He’s really trying to be himself but it’s not working. He had a fixation on Wallis because Wallis was making him feel, and for all his life Feeling = Bad. He can't afford to break and he knows it. Even still, slowly but surely, he’s falling apart.

---- Small intermission! Sorry but that’s a lot so far. Feel free to take a little break, like I am, and think about what you’ve discovered so far. It’s a lot ain’t it. Who knew Fresh was actually a multi-dimensional in depth character with some big problems. (I did. And now hopefully you do.) ----

BACK TO FRESH! Now, I mentioned before, there's another way to give emotions to Fresh, and while it’s less likely it’s just as fun to explore. That’s the method of “Let’s dump all the emotions on Fresh and see what happens.” This method usually happens from some sort of magical interference.

This is that zero to everything I mentioned before. Fresh, with no experience or build up, is suddenly feeling just as much as me or you. That’s a whole lot more than he was feeling before and BOY WOULD THAT BE STRESSFUL. Especially if Fresh got guilt in a more traditional way, like we would feel, instead of a build of emotions.

See, when Fresh builds up to emotions he’s still being Fresh. He’s still possessing and lying and doing his best to keep being himself, which is just unfortunate enough to not be a great person. If you dump all of the emotions on Fresh he has to deal with it immediately. There’s no time to become comfortable with what he's doing. All the sudden he has all this junk on him, a lot of it not even initially dealing with hosting, but once it becomes time for him to move on to someone else? He has to deal with empathy, and guilt.

Empathy is completely, entirely unacceptable. He can't afford to care about what happens to someone else! He can now feel that feeling of “what if someone did this to me” and if he can't rationalize himself out of that emotion he's absolutely screwed. All the sudden everything is different. There are people he cares about, and he knows what he does is Hell to the host. Ever had the life sucked out of you by force while someone else controlled your body and proceeded to ruin your life? It’s bad. Now imagine you have to do that to someone else just to live. Bad times all around.

That's just for emotions in the present. Start bringing up Fresh's past and it can get worse. For example, the fact that he slowly murdered at least a few hundreds of people more likely than not, as well as destroying relationships, and honestly? Some of that you did because you didn't care and you knew you could. Unfortunately, now you do care and you can see how bad that was. Really bad. You're a bad person, and even trying to act like “yourself” drags up SO MANY PROBLEMS. Some therapy may be required. Or a lot of therapy. Take your pick.

“Well, This stuff doesn't matter for me because I’m only interested in sexy times Fresh anyways and that's a different thing *lenny *wink face.”

(TL:DR of this in case it’ll make you uncomfortable, Fresh is a literal Asexual Parasite and doesn't understand Love anyways. Stop.)

Sorry buddy but Fresh can't even do that! Firstly he has no concept of love, so unless you give him emotions there's not going to be any relationship between you two except “possible host” and “probable cause of death.” Any love you would feel for him is unfortunately one sided, sorry Alaina.

Alright, but then you give him emotions and enough time to sort out his complicated junk. Fair enough, then maybe, very very maybe could you have some sort of relationship with Fresh. One that didn't end badly, I mean.

Emotions or not, Fresh has no grasp of sex. It just, doesn't compute. You see, Fresh is an Asexual Parasite in the literal meaning of the word. He produces more parasites all on his own, as much as he wants (or doesn't), without any help from anyone. Even without that, why would Fresh engage in that sort of relationship? There's no point. If he wants to get close to someone being friends is fine and doesn't take as long more often than not. Maybe, Maybe he would go to a bar and find someone to trick into following him away for a quick easy host, but if that happens, sorry, you’re not getting much more than your shirt off in a best case scenario. There's definitely not going to be any action.

Also, consider his persona. Does he look like the sort of person who would do that with someone he was unfamiliar with? No, not really, and remember, he doesn't exactly have the time to cultivate a relationship until it gets to that point. Please also consider that if Fresh can't feel, you aren't getting anything good out of that kind of venture anyways. He's completely inexperienced, and he's not going to understand what’s going on at any level. He just. He can't, he's completely Asexual. He might be a minor except we don't know how long Fresh has been alive, or when exactly he becomes not a kid anymore. It’s all crappy.

It’s just not good. Stop. Fresh has a kiss list, look into getting one of those instead. Still doesn't understand the weight of a kiss but it’s as good as you're canonically getting.

“Wow, that’s a super long post! How do you know so much?”

Because I LOVE FRESH! I too was drawn in by his friendly persona, however, instead of just taking that and assuming that’s all there was, I tried to find out anything I could. I looked through CQ’s blog for anything involving Fresh, I asked questions when I had questions, I went to sources that were fairly trustable, and then I asked more questions. I watched and read and considered his character really really hard because I didn't want to misunderstand him.

Fresh is in a strange state of having not enough information about him posted, and at the same time having all the information you need about him to understand him. We don't know what his true past is, why he exists, what minor goals will be, because in short, that’s spoilers. This is the information that’ll get revealed within Lucidia. And if it doesn't I’m going to eat my fist and then proceeded to ask more questions.

HOWEVER! We know so much about who he is, and if you're careful with it you might even be able to fill in some blanks with reasonable headcanons! We know that he’s emotionless, and already if you just think about that fact you’ve got miles to run with. The fact that he’s a parasite, and what that means as far as morals go. Something that has to kill to live is going to mature differently than we do, and come to different conclusions about the world! Different assumptions, hopes, expectations, experiences! So many things!

So please, I ask you, don’t try to sell me a fresh that’s little more than a bright sk8er boi that uses outdated lingo and happens to be a parasite. Sell me a Parasite trying to fly under the radar the best way it can, by imitating others and playing their cards so that they're always one step ahead, manipulating and hurting others on the down low so that people won’t believe the ones he’s hurt and they'll be willing to follow him into a risky situation. Sell me a clever Fresh, an emotionless Fresh, a Fresh that isn't afraid to get his hands dirty if that’s really the best way to get something done.

Sell me the Real Fresh, not the Fannon.

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 Special thanks to @alainaprana and @neon--nightmare for having some fun emotional Fresh things I could use, as well as @feth for being a wealth of information that’s pretty safe. And of course, thank you @loverofpiggies for creating Fresh in the first place. None of this post would exist if Fresh didn't exist, and I’m glad to have been able to find you when I did. PLEASE, IF ANY OF THIS IS INACCURATE, TELL ME! I really do try my best to play him right in stories and ideas and I want to show an accurate depiction of him.

By the way, here are the tags that I had originally written, for your reading pleasure. It's a mess, but I just feel like the raw emotion might be good (even if that's basically the opposite of True Fresh).

Heck, so much heck, how does everyone NOT know this??, Fresh is so interesting and in depth and??, He's more than a 90's infomercial, that's just te persona he sells, YOU'RE ALL BEING FOOLED BY FRESH'S FAKE SELF, HE DOESN'T CARE, HE'S A BAD BOI THAT HAS TO SLOWLY KILL TO LIVE, HECKS, LOOK AT HIS SMILE, HIS HAPPY "PERSONALITY", IT'S FAKE!! ALL OF IT!!, except when it's not because it's an au where he gained emotions, and then it's "oh Lordy what have I done", and crying all the time because boi, he ain't never had any emotions, could you imagine going from zero to INFINITY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, when you drop toast butter-down you say "aww darn :(", FRESH WITH EMOTION, A FREAKIN', FUNERAL FOR THE BREAD, not Really I'm exaggerating, BUT BOIS, Y'ALLS, HIS HEART, "Oh no I- I dropped the bread, I had just spent so much time making that and-, and now it's gone, no one can eat it, it landed butter down now there's a huge mess, CQ comes in to fresh on the ground beside a single piece of bread, please know I'm mostly exaggerating, but just, GOODNESS GRAVY, AND THEN??? CANON FRESH WHERE NO EMOTION???, HAVE YOU SEEN HIM, HIM HIM, NOT SANS UNDERTALE, GOOD LORDY I ALWAYS DIE A BIT WHEN I SEE "UNDERFRESH/FRESHTALE", DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THAT DOESN'T EXIST, THAT'S!!!! NOT A THING!?!!, at least, not in te case of REAL FRESH, you can make an underfresh if you want but it will never be canon, there's no fresh Papyrus, no fresh Flowey, no fresh Undyne, BECAUSE THERE'S NO FRESH SANS, ONLY FRESH, and fresh, oh boy, he's the worst, the best worst, "hey you know I don't really care so how about I just, Do what it takes, or even better, what it doesn't take because it'll be amusing for a while", Fresh doesn't care about you, or your life, or your friends, or your money, nothing, he cares about his own life, that's priority number one y'all, If that means murder? Eating people alive? Lying?, he'll do that, Yeah, His persona he's got going on?, he WANTS YOU to underestimate him., "oh yeah that colorful dude haha what a joke", no one would suspect he's actually, A STARFISH MURDER PARASITE, THAT WILL SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY DRAIN YOUR MAGIC, THEN LEAVE YOU FOR DEAD AT BEST, THAT's RIGHT, AT BEST, I have very few doubts that Fresh would kill previous hosts to cover his tracks if he, felt he had to, "If You end up living and telling people about me someone might actually believe you.", "so you get to die! Yay :D!", please note this is an exaggeration, I'm super hyped up, but STILL, MY POINT!!, IS HERE!!, I'm just gonna make a post, because I have so many words to say, and tags r not enough,