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arcade-confetti · 27 days ago

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what do you think jason's life would be like if he had been taken in by someone other than bruce? as in bruce researches a good foster home instead of sending him to maa gunn's or something and he gets to be raised by a relatively normal foster family? what job would he work? what would he major in (i know english is a popular answer but i would also love to hear your opinions on other subjects for him)? if we're talking pre crisis then maybe nocturna (maybe even harvey bullock) but what about post crisis?

idc what bruce's life would be like without jason, i just wanna know how jason's life would pan out without bruce being too involved, i don't like the "he would have died without bruce finding him" route some people take because the possibilities seem endless

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There is SO MUCH potential there for him!! So many possibilities to think about it's so so fun..

Personally, I enjoy making it so Jason never dies or becomes something like a crime lord under anyone's care except Bruce's- even including other heros. It is a small joy I give myself

Sooo much potential with what families could adopt him.. like.. awahh there's just so many branches and opportunities for him...

Different families for Jason is really interesting to think about. I think he'd be very against it at first in a way he wasn't against Bruce. Like other than Bruce (literally batman taking him in + gave him the gotham child fantasy dream of being Robin, etc) and Sheila (2 years of having to live with Batman and without friends + connection to his parents) Jason is rather against new parental figures in his life. I MEAN. ok so Nocturna did kinda kidnap him and Catwoman took Bruce's attention which he does hate but like. I stand by this. He does NOT mesh well with being freshly adopted, he's very independent and sees himself grown. But also I will say this is like. A minor conflict overall. A brief bit of tension. He will not start fine with it but Jason is rather desperate for attention and care and I think having his needs met would smooth things out. He is fiercely loyal once he starts liking you but he's gotta start liking you.

On the other hand. I do think Jason would have a rougher time with siblings. Like. It is undeniable Jason gets pretty jealous, certainly in pre-crisis. Dick didn't have issue bc he doesn't live with Bruce and Jason looks up to Dick (though Jason certainly has complicated feelings about him) like I don't think he'd quite know how to deal with it. I can see it being less of an issue than it would be with Bruce (his attachment to B + his isolation from fellow heros + his isolation from fellow kids) but I dunno. I think it should definitely be a point of note even for a little bit. Especially once he gets attached to a parent- potential siblings would be something Jason would tackle with. He's been an only child all his life and he CRAVES attention. He told Julia to move out he hated Catwoman he hangs out with other people when Bruce isn't giving him attention to prove himself or get back at Bruce LIKE. There's gonna be a curve for him. And I think unpleasant feelings will definitely arise if he isn't the favorite but another kid is or if the other kid is taken somewhere and he isn't.

I know fans like putting him in a caretaker role and I do think Jason would take it up if he felt it needed, but I want, more than anything, for a no Bruce au to allow him to be a child

Now this is very largely pre-crisis and I DO fully believe he'd do much better if less isolated and dependent on someone like Bruce for connection and attention. But I still think this should be a conflict early on at least. Like an early arc. A development to be done. Something to keep in mind and all that.

He ran away from Bruce to go back to his original connections BOTH in pre and post when he wasn't getting what he needed (i cheer him on). We hope his new family doesn't reach that point- though for them it might be more of him going to sit in his old home and talk to his old neighbors. I think itd be an interesting point to think about how a different life would lead to him facing Sheila, I can't see him being fine with leaving it alone just unanswered once he learns about her. Maybe he'd be older. Maybe he finds her somewhere else. Maybe he never physically finds her but something online. Maybe he tries but can't find anything. Maybe the search is done by another. But I don't see him leaving it fully alone once he knows. But that's enough about Sheila, she's a bit too associated with his end and feels like it all going down the same path anyway than I care for in this ramble, though there are thoughts to be had on it

He should run away a little bit though. I do think the main conflict of a better life should have him dealing with independence and attention. Being taken care of and having a new family. Not to the circus or a different country but yeah like his old home. Sorry I keep just like repeating this I'm not sure I'm getting the thoughts to paper like a want so I just end up saying it again lol. It gets better and there WILL be better communication and he WILL be doing better than with Bruce but yknow?? If his story has any or initial conflict it will be this or have this somewhere at its core

I think, what's really important to me, is that Jason is a FAST learner. Hes so fast in lost days. If I made him into a pony his special talent would be being a fast learner. It's not like super relevant here I guess but it colors all I do

I also really love the civilian moments we get with Jason, I've made a (still barebones) highschool au with them, and I'm bringing them here too! Jason does extra credit work, he's asks whoever his guardian is to quiz him on the way to school sometimes, he does one of the school's sports (soccer is what's stated/implied, but I heavily associate Jason with baseball + to me that one panel of him playing is equal to one off text saying soccer) HE GOES TO AFTER SCHOOL CLUBS he works on plays/theater, either as a performer or behind the stage, I think both work well. I want him to THRIVE. I want him doing well and doing everything without Robin holding him back. I do not know how on earth he does theater and baseball but he's doing it anyway. I THINK one panel implied him with some sort of class presidency or something along those lines but I CANNOT find it again or know For Sure it was Jason saying it but something to think about maybe perhaps,though its not important to me. I mentioned it in my headcanons post but I definitely see Jason as just.. someone who is doing things all the time. He loves learning and gaining new skills and just doing things, it's real fun

I think Jason really genuinely enjoys school and he'd be able to do way more without Robin on his shoulders. The chance to be able to go back after having to drop out I'd say is really important to him

I imagine he wouldn't so deeply be labeled as boring if he got to do everything he wanted. Though it could still happen. He'd probably have more friends without Robin looming over and affecting him. Any siblings if his age I can see him kinda gravitating towards but kinda weird about if they have their own friends while he's still new in school, whether he joins into the group or forges his own could be an interesting storyline. On his own his friendgroup would be 3 max, not including himself, he does a little bit maybe have a need to dominate it out of a need for attention. I mean. Not like. Dominate it. But like??? He has a mild need to be better than the others in it. Competitive in a probably not very noticeable but happening in his own mind way.

I still haven't made it far in RHATO so how he does in a group/team dynamic thats on more equal ground is not something I've not really yet read or become familiar with in comics. And RHATO is after significant vigilante and Bruce influence. And written by lobdell. The titans team ups have him feeling lacking or like a substitute- Eddie was rather equal but the story deeply short- Annual 12 boys seems older than him but there might be something there about how they sorta brought him to their pack and that probably making him feel special and the leg up he has on them in grades and not getting in trouble. I wiped the intricacies of Countdown dynamics from my memories other than Jason being miserable and kicked down the whole time and being written as more of a generic asshole template character than himself

English is a popular subject but if I may be so real, I'm personally not a fan of it! Farthest I go is librarian or maybe even book store employee, which delight me, but going further is kinda like giving a character who just happens to enjoy drawing an art degree you know? Jason really absolutely enjoys books, but I can't see it as a teaching or studied thing. If he wrote a novel it wouldn't be his job. Just something he'd do. If he got a degree for it it'd be less out of need and more of just sorta Wanting to and having the time and funds

For jobs. I remain I sucker for mechanic or local theater- again in production or behind the scenes or both for theater. Jason loves knowing things and loves having his hands on things so definitely just sorta blue collar jobs I can see him leaning towards or Knowing how to do. I can also see him working for local businesses or in the back of a restaurant somewhere. There's also of course sports. Jason is a fascinating character who's really hard for me to pin in one spot, he has alot of options and he wants to do things. Job or jobs also might depend on the money situation of himself and family. But overall it's not actually that deeply different from how I imagine his canon self. Except ☝️ he can do more because there's no mask to haunt him or potential people he's failing to save. AND. I'm sticking acrobat in here. No Dick to compare to no adrenaline lost no clown murders- I'm giving him back his circus option. ...Now might be a good time to mention I casually mix pre and post crisis together when talking Jason because I think both matter.

He would rather avoid working at a zoo

MAJORS. If money is no obstacle and if not stopped I think he'd dip his toes in alot when it comes to college. I do think he would've like, gotten or earned a scholarship. Majors... I don't know too much about that really, engineering I suppose. Although, if adopted by Natalia there's also an option for astronomy, meteorology, or maybe aviation, I can see her encouraging a love of the sky in him.

Natalia I can see adopting him, rather than a Bruce Wayne plot it being the right place and time where she sees a kid on the streets that reminds her so much of her past self. Fucks with the timeline a bit but maybe have Anton in jail and escaped it already to keep the adoption timeline in place. Anton continues to want to kill a 12 year old. Maybe they become theives together, maybe Natalia takes to a less extravagant life with Jason around, maybe both. Awahh so many possibilities with this alone.... Thieves would probably put him in the direction of Bats like those Stray aus... OH! I'm. So wouldn't be stopped from all the thief tropes I like. It is Disguise and Drama time

BULLOCK!! awahhaahgh he was so important to Jason's story as Robin and I LOVE it and I WANT their friendship but oughh how does it go about now... Harvey adopting Jason would be a REALLY fascinating angle to explore... but without adoption.... Harvey should be a cop Jason decides to bother. Either a Knight Jason messing with him during heists or just a regular Todd who believes in acab. They could meet in a Jason running away plot. They could meet at the theater (does Harvey go for plays or is he more movies? I figure both could work?) They could warm up as Bullock goes through his character development. Ideal world Harvey quits the force. I struggle to see their friendship being quite as strong- or maybe that's just because it'd be in a different direction from solving cases..

Detail not gone in and I can't remember her name if she had one but I AM imagining Jason having a closer relationship with the lady that saved his n his parents things in A Death In The Family. And generally with more neighbors and people in the alley. I mean- this woman we've never heard of before was holding onto those things for him for maybe 2 years? I want Jason to feel more connected there and to its community, people who knew his parents before. Yknow?

Whoever adopts him tries to take him to see and visit Willis Also. May not succeed but they try

No matter what he DOES try to help if he feels no one else will so maybe he could still be a vigilante. Maybe he's offered a different world by a different hero- maybe on the magic he has

WAIT... I'm. Paramedic or doctor Jason...maybe firefighter. An everyday hero could be a fun direction. Firefighter spinning around in my head considering Jason died in an explosion and it's said from smoke inhalation...

I like to think he'd have a firmer sense of self, that he would've had a nice life with more friends and a more communicative family. I think he would've delved into school and pursued interests and passions for himself. Could've lived the rest of his childhood as a child instead of someone whos accepted as grown and old and pushed further into it. Vigilantism wouldn't be wholly off the table i dont think- but it wouldn't be all that's on it. And he'd get his own identity, never seen as a copy and never becomes a ghost or a warning. Maybe its not all sunshine and rainbows but fuck he's alive and happy and has his own name and knew he was loved.

This is a bit of a ramble bdjsbsks, endless possibilities but ah.. I also wanted him to be a happy...

#ask #me personally i had a max of one friend at a time during school and id end it and avoid them if they talked to me too much #so i cant say much on his friendship skills other than i hope theyre better than mine #...mutuals if youre reading these tags dont worry about it #anywya hi its 3am oopise. goodnight #🎠🏚🌊#💥🌃🐦‍🔥🗡#��🎫🪽#3:40 now i made that tag preemptively bsjsbssks #and they take him out for tbings a support his interests #without it all just taking him there because of work

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