#osrs.helluva

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Unrelated, but Octavia and Mammon from HB are cannonicaly ACE now

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well DAMN. absolute W for octavia, mammon is crazy unexpected but you know I'll accept anything for more aspec rep. it'd be cool if we got to see indication of octavia's asexuality in the show itself... but congrats on no longer being the only canonically ace hellaverse character alastor. sorry you have to share your sexuality now.

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ace octavia is actually so so fucking good I swear. now can she pull a moxxie and verbally say "I'm asexual" in the show please

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On one hand I get why Mammon might be problematic aroace rep but on the other. I genuinely cannot imagine him going out of his way to form ANY kind of relationship that isn't inherently exploitative of his partner. It's just not in his nature. Like the word 'mammon' literally means money/wealth/profit 😭 there is no room for someone else with a person like that

okay anon I know you mean no ill-will with this but like… the reasons you listed is precisely why mammon as aroace rep is kindaaaa problematic (although again granted we don't know for sure AROace is the intention, but if the ace of spades asexual symbolism was intentional it seems that way)

exploiting every relationship you're in is completely independent of attraction. anyone can do that regardless of whether they are attracted to the person they are exploiting.

a character shouldn't be aro simply for the reason that they're too compassionless to have or want a partner, because that's just feeding into harmful aro stereotypes. that's kind of exactly what the "no love for the wicked" trope is.

and okay some may wonder "oh but what about alastor", admittedly even with alastor I was kind of skeptical going into hazbin since I was under the impression he was a full-on villain, but going through all of it, despite his immorality he still shows the capacity to care for others with mimzy, rosie, niffty and some extent the hotel. so he doesn't fully fall into "oh he's too evil to care of course he wouldn't feel romantic love" because he does care in certain cases, but I worry mammon falls into that category because we haven't seen any instance of him caring about anyone but himself yet

it's okay for an evil character to be aroace but they shouldn't be aroace because they're evil

also I do wonder if octavia is intended to only be ace or specifically aroace too, because unlike mammon she doesn't have the ace of spades imagery, it would be cool if she was though, she would at least balance out as being the only non-evil aroace in the hellaverse LMAO. but I also wish vivzie played around more with different type of aspecs and didn't have every ace be aro (or even GASP. include an aroallo character), honestly if it were between mammon and octavia I'd prefer for octavia to be aro over mammon, but obviously if mammon is intended to be aro I wouldn't deny him of it I'd just be… silently judging but accept it because we have so little aspec rep as it is I'll accept anything.

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Hey, so it has been a week since the Helluva Boss pride mat was revealed, and I know you already gave your opinions on Octavia and Mammon being asexual (and possibly aromantic), but I was wondering on your thoughts on some of the other characters orientations. I know that a lot of people were surprised/upset by Millie and Barbie Wire being confirmed straight and pan.

well I don't really have super strong feelings about the others considering I didn't really have existing hcs for many of the helluva characters in the first place but jokes about millie being the straight girlfriend of a bi boy at pride are very funny to me, I thought she might also be bi but this works fine to me, I think it's cool helluva has like such an array of pan characters too

although I DO think we could probably use more lesbian characters, seems like the only ones in the hellaverse currently now are sallie and vaggie

OH YEAH ALSO

LOVE the bi-ace solidarity here, certainly a bi-ace relation that actually works out

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Re: https://www.tumblr.com/onesidedradiostatic/768559046590627840/sp-sp-spades-i-didnt-take-the-diamonds-into

aroace comrade here, (everyone’s mileage varies, and I’m not a broad representative or anything) and I didn’t see anything that explicitly couldn’t be aroacey for Mammon in this ep? I put that down to having oblivious!aroace goggles permanently glued onto my face, so I’m open to being told otherwise! These are just my thoughts as dot points, I’m not poking at anyone specifically.

- Asking someone if they want to go out later or after something doesn’t always mean “on a date”, it can just mean like, hanging out, and it can also be as banal as walking vaguely next to each other, small talking about work or in awkward silence, buy lunch at the same cafe, walk back to work and then not even eat lunch together or see each other again that day because you’re coworkers and not actual friends

- ‘out on the town’ means getting pissed at multiple establishments, or even a shopping spree, being demanding nuisances. It evokes, like, a montage of over-indulgence, which checks out for Greed. You can go out on the town with anyone, relationship-irrelevant. I’m not sure if these mean something different in America?

- “fuck with” doesn’t always mean fuck with, it can mean “put up with”

- Mammon seemed unimpressed (in the australian sense of “pissed off”) when Bee told him to eat a dick, so maybe eating dick isn’t something he thinks “applies” to him. If Bee had used any other thing that can be eaten, he’d probably reply with “THANK YOU I WILL”. He looks even less impressed at being told to go fuck himself, so maybe that’s not something he’s into either. He seemed most pissed at being called a big asshole. XD ig he’s “I can excuse [everything harmful], but I draw the line at calling me fatass or implying I fuck” He dishes out sexual insults but he can’t take them.

- he ate the dick ice cream later without complaint because free ice cream is free ice cream: dick-shaped doesn’t really matter if it’s not actively being discussed. He’d probs eat it if it landed on the floor. (If I was offered free garlic bread but it was dick-shaped and no one was talking about sex in that moment, or telling me to go eat a dick, I’d probably definitely eat it, my 24/7 want for garlic bread outweighs my aversion to [sex-themed things + myself] “fuck it, it’s food”)

- It kinda came across to me that he was oblivious of how asking someone to go out with him while eating a dick shaped icecream would look to other people, which is funny to me. The unsynchronised blink says “head empty”

- This interaction could be interpreted as a crush, but I didn’t see it that way.(aroace goggles) I think he wants to be Wanted, like, in the only way he knows, which is materially. He has no positive connections with the other sins that we’ve seen so far, but Wants to be one of the cool kids, (the coolest kid, hog the attention etc) and Lev doesn’t actively shit on him like Ozzie and Bee, here. Lev’s indifference could seem like an allyship compared to Oz and Bee.

- He included Lev in his group of ‘like-minded superior elites’, considering himself better than/above fucking the lower class, maybe he thinks he’s above fucking at all? He could be the “[food] is better than sex” stereotype of ace.

It’s been interesting seeing what other people think!

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see I think there are a lot of ways to interpret anything, even characters intended to be allo and their actions, in an aro/ace manner

like yeah I still get being ace while talking about sexual stuff or sucking on dick shaped popsicles like I'd do that because I'm kind of an unserious person and find sex jokes funny even if I don't care to have sex with anyone!!! I can see characters doing that too!!

but like my thing is there is no reference to his asexuality through all of it, there are things that could be interpreted in an asexual way but there is nothing put into those scenes that the average viewer who doesn't know about the helluva pride art that mammon is saying all these asexually, it just looks like he's shaming oz and bee for fucking the lower class and not high class like "the rest of us", like of course maybe he fucks without/with little sexual attraction or maybe he was shaming them for fucking in general idk!

my thing isn't really that any of these disprove mammon being ace (because obviously regardless he is still canonically ace) but rather that I wish there was SOMETHING that called out to his asexuality, that even the average viewer could get, but like okay. the series isn't over yet of course so we could still get something in the future, I just wished his first appearance after the helluva pride art would allude to it in some way, but if they do allude to it in the future it'd be cool to have ace rep that's more favourable towards sex even if mammon isn't really uh the most positive portrayal of asexuality

(also having the "good" characters tell the ace character he's unfuckable and that he should keep fucking himself kindaaaaa doesn't sit right with me, I really don't want to read bad faith into mammon being made ace rep but it's but it gets kinda hard like this)

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btw striker is totally asexual right

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Helluva Boss gets even funnier to me when you remember that all the (currently available) episodes came BEFORE Lucifer made his official debut. The other three Sins we see are HUGE and there's a lot of quiet buildup and then we get to meet him in HH and. He's just a silly little guy

LMAOOOO I can imagine, imagine debuting then ending up getting into a petty ass song fight with the edgy oc because he called you short and then proceed to have your daughter almost stolen by said edgy oc

couldn't be ozzie, beelzebub or mammon (even if he's an asshole)

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speaking of rep, I am surprised that I don't see anyone talking about Solas apparenty being grey ace (tho this flag may be less known), something I'm quite thrilled about

hmmm honestly I'm not really sure if that's the intention here

I can see how you get it from the colours but if there was an intentional grey-ace flag I feel like they would put it out more clearly like how you can see the rainbow gay flag and the blue gay flag as like his earrings(?) here

it would be cool if it was intentional but personally I don't think it is, I think they just had him wear purple and his overall colour scheme with his body makes it look that way

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Did you notice that as soon as Mammon said "Women aren't funny" a pop up appeared saying the show was made by Vivzie? That'd one of the funniest jokes I've ever seen

HEEEEELP????

I DIDN'T NOTICE THIS LMAOOOOOO

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btw I just wanna say I have NOT watched helluva boss (only seen like maybe 2/3 short clips on twitter a bit back), thinking I may hop on at some point and drop some reactions here with a specific tag for it if that interests anyone idk

[onesidedradiostatic]

helluva boss s1e1&2 reaction

alright gonna start this I guess, filter the #osrs.helluva tag if you don't want this on your dash

if you haven't heard before! I have never watched helluva boss, only seen a couple clips and screenshots on twitter. I have heard about some stuff regarding plot/characters though but otherwise, don't know too much

episode 1

so um first off, the thumbnail

holy fucking shit humans!??!??!

you know despite having heard all about it

the first half of the episode made me completely forget that this story had a main romance LMAO

and oh they weren't kidding this is a fucking mess, it's soooo clearly imbalanced in stolas' favour atm

"I will fuck you and your wife" I'M CRYING?????

yeah I can see how these can act as silly filler stuff we don't get to see in hazbin, didn't realise the episodes were this short, makes binging pretty manageable

episode 2

this song!! I've actually heard it before, a cover of it's come up in my youtube mix before

IS THAT THE GUY

also jesus christ can stolas only think with his dick CALM DOWN man

THEY HAVE THAT BIG OF A HEIGHT DIFFERENCE???

LUCIFER HAS A PARK CALLED LU-LU WORLD LMAO??????????????

oh wow fizzarolli's stuff really has a lot of cameos early on

holy shit I love how you can see beef between blitzo and fizzarolli this early on (no idk all the details, all I know is they have some history together)

also I actually didn't expect him to sound like that even if it's just a robo him

and as I was typing this I got this anon ask LMAO

okay thank you for clarifying

holy shit yeah whatever the fuck is going down with these two is what I'm looking forward to LMAO (LIIIKE I said before, what I've heard about fizzarolli interests me even if he only properly appears later on)

awww this is cute

and that's the first 2 episodes!! pretty silly so far but I see hints of interesting stuff that'll come in the future so that's cool, stolas..... well I'm sure you'll improve soon

may end up binging this so idk whether reactions will be as consistent (or if I'll keep grouping them up in 2 episodes) but if I have something to say I'll say it 🫡🫡

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helluva boss s1e7&8 reaction

season 1 finale let's gooo (REALLY GOOD STUFF???)

episode 7

OZZIE yes one of the characters I've been looking forward to seeing

"YOUR BORING AS FUCK MONOGAMY" HELP HE WANTS TO THREESOME WITH THEM SO BADLY

I love seeing some of these tiny hazbin details in the background

kinda funny how some hellborns are just chilling as the exterminations happen

they're so fucking toxic

wait at first I was like ANOTHER ROBO FIZZ but OH MY GOD is that ACTUALLY HIM????

oh yeah it's not asmodeus that blitzo doesn't wanna see huh

oh my god

ohhhh my god

oh my god

HEEEELP WHAT IS THIS

btw one of the things I already know is that fizzarolli and asmodeus are in a (secret?) relationship so I wanna be transparent about knowing that but of course don't know all the details

oh my god x5

oh my god (I'm not offering any insightful commentary I just have to screenshot all this ohm y god)

oh my god

okay yeah that was really good holy shit

OH MY GOD HIS FACE ALSDGMLSMGSHML

awww

honestly good on moxxie and millie for continuing their sappy love song even when fizzarolli and ozzie were screaming about lust LMAOSDIOHKOHSF

HELP LMAOOOOO

oh my god???

oh my god it's this picture

OH MY GOD?????

okay that. that was really good. best episode so far imo jesus christ. well another thing I know about is that blitzo and fizzarolli eventually do patch things up? so really looking forward to that, this is so good

episode 8

heard about this one getting delayed to hell cause of kesha LMAO

I love how awkward loona is here

I don't have much to say about this part, think I've seen some of the visuals cause of twitter back when it first released (so I don't really have any comments on beelzebub)

"she's hot" LMAO??????

NO

NO

NO

NO

NO

NO

"CAN WE NOT TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW?"

awwww man

they are both NOT in good places right now LMAO

this is sweet

AND that's it for season 1, yeah things really started to pick up at the end here, that was really good, definitely definitely need to see more about stuff between fizz and blitzo, and the drama between blitzo and stolas is definitely getting interesting, and glad to see loona got some time to shine in this episode too

but yes, will start season 2 soon (not immediately probably idk), stay tuned 🫡🫡

[onesidedradiostatic]

How do you feel about viziepop stating in one of her recent interviews that in the future seasons of Helluva Boss we will be getting to see more of Stella's character and her backstory?

oh I actually commented on this in a discord convo

if you were there for my helluva liveblog you'll know I didn't really like how one-note stella seemed but now that we know we're getting backstory for her at some point yeah I'm happy, I think it could be interesting, I mean being in an arranged marriage since young should've affected her too and I'm sure her upbringing wasn't very good for her to turn out like this LMAO

but yeah I'm excited to see it I wanna see more to her, it would also be cool to see what kind of relationship she has with octavia since we haven't really seen that

(also saying this again for the record, I'm perfectly fine with her being abusive/irredeemable, genuinely just wanna see more depth to her that isn't just shouting at stolas)

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helluva boss s2e6 reaction

I HAD TO CUT IT DOWN TO 1 EPISODE CAUSE I HIT THE IMAGE LIMIT LMAO. SORRY EPISODE 7 IN ANOTHER POST

episode 6

oh my god. okay. fizzarolli right at the start we're already off to a great start

oh my god????

okay I think I'm starting to see the parallels between fizz and angel dust, I did hear mammon was abusive? idk? didn't expect that not all the deadly sins would be nice like ozzie, beelzebub and lucifer

HAHAHAH OH MY GOD

UH HUH.......

"LOVE. IS. STUPID."

yeah I understand why they were screaming at moxxie and millie now

THIS FUCKING CAPTION LMAO

HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOO

OHHHHHH MY GOD

oh boy

yeah I like where this is going

awwwww

OH MY GOD we're getting blitzo-fizz stolas-ozzie parallels now aren't we

oh here's the part about ozzie condemning love potions, one of the things I heard about

Asmodeus: Well, I can tell ya, if you're looking for a love potion, you came to the wrong fucking guy. I don't fuck with that artificial bullshit! Lust shouldn't be about force... It's an ART! To be earned, and enjoyed. It's all about that journey to Pleasure Town... You feel me?

based ozzie

HAHAHAH oh my god these messages

oh my god

LMAOOOOOO

I love this little exchange they're having it's so funny

Blitzo: Point is, royal demons don't give a shit about guys like us. They're all the fuckin' same. Fizzarolli: That's not...! A-always true...

oooooh this is supposed to be a comparison between ozzie and mammon now is it

ooooh boy (also what the fuck is this shot LMASKDSOGKOHDOMHS)

oh my god what happened between them

oh my god???

oh my god.

HIS MUM? aw. man.

man so it's not even their fucking fault, who decided to lie to him like that what a dick

HAHAHA aww

hahhaha awwwwww

LMAOOOOOOO????

WHAJAJASKLGSDSDKFDLGLG WHAT IS THIS SHOT

WHAT IS THIS

THAT GUY WITH THE HEART EYES???? I'M CRYING

awwww

I'M CRYING?????

HAHAHA OH MY GOD

OOOOH HAHHAHA

LMAOOOO the captions at the end, I hit image limit so

BTW: DON'T WORRY. The quieves all made it home safe and sound <3

but yeah this was GREAT. I was gonna put episode 7 together with this but um. I ended up going too crazy and hit the image limit in one episode whoops. dw, next time, EPISODE 7. and more fizzarolli

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helluva boss s2e1&2 reaction

season 2. let's go

episode 1

oh my god backstory time

ah, arranged marriage

that makes sense

I see so they both worked at the circus together

the love at first sight here is crazy bro's not even doing anything

oh my god

BUY HIM???? oh this is so fucked up

this is cute

he's doing a really good job at that stealing from the rich thing though good job blitzo

this is pretty cute, if only their situations weren't so fucked up

OKAY I'M NOT SCREENSHOTTING THIS BUT THE SCENE IN THE BEDROOM WITH BLITZO AND STOLAS WHERE BLITZO IS TRYING TO STEAL THE GRIMOIRE IS KILLING ME

"sorry I fucked your husband" WHY WOULD YOU TELL HER THAT

well damn...

idk if this is controversial but can stella be allowed to like... have any singular moment where it's not just her being an asshole? like honestly I just want a bit more dimension to her than just abusive bitch wife, she can still absolutely be a classist abusive asshole and an antagonist and not likable, I just wanna see more to her y'know, another side to her? idk if I can explain myself well here, but even when being abusive to her husband, I feel like she should have moments where she acts another way when it comes to other people? other situations? idk. I am AAALL for evil women, but I feel like all we've seen of stella is just angry shouting and nothing else, I just wanna see something more than that. but like I guess I get we're only seeing her from stolas' perspective right now so it kinda makes sense...? idk I just wanna see something a bit more from her.

I mean I'm not done yet so maybe I'll get to see it soon?

episode 2

so from what I can see I'm guessing this is the episode loona and octavia meet

or well bond? they already know of each other I guess

not blitzo's confidence being crushed cause of people not laughing at him years back 😭😭 but hey I feel you man

maaan.

NOT THE FUCKING ACID WATER ON THE POSTERS EARLIER????

sweet

"why does he hate her more than he loves me" aw man

that's cute

awwww

think I'll post this and maybe group 3-5 and 6-7? but yeah really good stuff here, I liked that we got to see a bit of the fucked up origins of their backstories, starting with blitzo being bought just to please stolas and blitzo taking advantage of stolas' liking of him for his benefit, like that's how they STARTED and how they continued to be 😭😭

anyways, stay tuned 🤞

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helluva boss s2e7 reaction

FINALLY catching up, let's-a-go

oh my god???

more younger fizz and blitzo???

do you think he and adam would get along

LMAO???????? GOOD JOB DUDE

why is he like the only asshole deadly sin we've seen so far, ozzie, beelzebub and lucifer are all goodhearted in some way

MISOGYNY???? oh he and adam would REALLY get along

aw man

ah so mammon is the reason we kept seeing fizzarolli merch everywhere, I see

oh. oh boy

oooooh boy

I see that makes sense

I assumed before that his fame came from his involvement with ozzie but it was mammon instead huh, being involved with 2 deadly sins as an imp is crazy

oh hey this looks familiar..... almost like it's someone's pfp with an asexual flag behind it.......

oh boy

awww, more of them. I'm glad at least ozzie is there for him

HEEEEELP WHAT

HELP GAY HORSE SHOW

honestly based

LMAOOO I love how they still banter even though they're sorta rekindling now

AWWWW is that a little deaf kid?

awwwwwwwwwww

ooooooh boy

it's cool blitzo called fizz likable, can really see how they've rekindled

ngl though their act is pretty damn cool, I'm loving all the changes in colours

honestly I've been wondering how fizz and ozzie met, was it through mammon?

aaaaaawww

aaaaaawwwww

caption is killing me but AAAAWWWW

LMAOOOOOOOO

ooooh good on him for recognising it

HELP LMAO???????????

I'M GONNA CRY HE GOT THE CROWD TO SING THIS

AWWWW the deaf kid

AHAHAHHAH WAS EXPECTiNG THIS

I'M GONNA CRY???????

I love how they don't have use the commonly used fizzmodeus LMAOOO. anyways hell denizens are canonically rpf fans thank you for letting me know helluva boss.

BUT YEAH that's it, all pretty cool stuff, of course hazbin hotel is still the Main Attraction for me but helluva definitely has a lot of pretty good stuff, fizzarolli is great, he and ozzie are cute and his dynamic with blitzo is so funny, I love it

no more to stay tuned for for now but hey, now I have helluva knowledge. WOOOO