#sasuke did nothing wrong

[nardo-headcanons]

Late, but it's not 12 AM yet. Happy Boopage day everyone.

[maricacarica]

Curse of Hatred has to be the biggest bullshit in all of Naruto and I understand how more then half the fandom takes it as truth. Tobirama tells us how Uchiha's feel strong emotions. Strong love and strong hatred when they lose somone they love. In other words they grief unlike most of Shinobi, who just bury it deep inside as we've seen. The Curse of Hatred is the same thing people used as to why women deserved less and weren't welcomed in politics. Because apperntly they were hysterical, unlike logical and rational men. Same went for Uchiha. Konoha used curse of hatred as excuse to not trust Uchiha and keep them out of politics. Because they were too irrational and their emotions would cloud their decisions and judgment.

And fandom took that to heart instead of seeing it as prejudiced propaganda. Madara and Sasuke are prime victims of this in fandom. Their ships are all literally "insert character" saving them from themselves and bringing them to good side (said good side supports having child soldiers). SNS and HashiMada/MadaHashi are literally the same thing as man saving women from themselves because their choices are "irrational". I've heard it thousands of times how Naruto "saved" Sasuke from his dark side. As if Sasuke didn't have evrey right to be mad at Konoha. Same goes with Hashirama "saving" Madara. It's always how they saved them from Curse of Hatred.

Or how SasuSaku fans use Curse of Hatred as reason Sasuke rejected Sakura. While after it was "broken" he suddenly realized his feelings for her.

The whole Curse of Hatred is just an excuse for how Uchiha's were treated. Just as whole women are too emotional statement was used as an excuse to not give women equal rights as men. Uchiha's weren't irrational, hysterical or too emotional. But if standard for love was "If anyone dares try and disturb that harmony. Whether it's my own offspring, family, or someone I consider brother I won't hesitate to strike them down" Hashirama, then Uchiha's do seem hysterical.

In conclusion, Curse of Hatred is bullshit and if we had major female Uchiha character we'd agree it sounds like sexism. It's just that Curse of Hatred wasn't used for sexism, but racism so they can keep Uchiha's away from powerful positions.

[shyflowerhologram]

sometimes I wonder if everyone reads the same manga, or if they even read manga, or base their facts on fillers.

I have already seen several posts, where people are saying that Sasuke tried to kill Naruto here, but actually:

Naruto was the first one, who decided to use deadly jutsu. If you see the chapter, Sasuke dispelled Naruto's clones with katon, meanwhile Naruto had already started working on rasengan.

Naruto had already used rasengan before to take down Kabuto and knew how powerful it was even with Kabuto's self healing. He knew the extent of it, he was conscious when Kabuto was bleeding his guts out, he knew the result of his attack.

but he still used it on Sasuke, so let's make it clear: if someone tried to kill someone, it was Naruto, who tried to kill Sasuke. Naruto was the first to bring rasengan into the fight, against Sasuke who had no way to heal himself.

Sasuke used chidori as a counterattack. Chidori is a focused jutsu and it could give Naruto clear cut wound, but Naruto knowingly used jutsu that would blow Sasuke's guts out.

Even Kakashi and Jiraiya admitted it, and let's be honest, if it had been other way around, everyone would call it the curse of hatred and blinded by vengeance, but if Naruto does it we just let it slide?

Naruto tried to kill someone he calls a friend, so what

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

LOL, this is so funny. The Uchiha neutralized the scoundrel and released his prisoners, you racist shit. It was YOUR pupil, standing there by your side, who enabled the scoundrel and let him torture and experiment with humans. Funny scoundrel seems to share your deranged hobbies, huh, wonder where he got those ideas from. You should all shut up your mouths and learn morals and decency from the Uchiha, you shameless criminals, your hypocrisy is boundless, YOU HAVE NO SHAME.

[moon-trees]

[uchihaempress]

I just had a “debate” with an Itachi Stan and it inspired me to go back on Tumblr again 😭 They were saying how Itachi killed the Uchiha clan for the greater good. I asked what greater good? And they said “Uchiha curse” lmao I hate Naruto stans so much like I can’t even take them seriously 😭😭😭😭

[camtheestallion]

blaming itach for what he did to sasuke when he himself was a kid (13yo!!!!) and had to deal with such a complex situation while the council & the third hokage (fully grown adults) literally pulled the strings behind is crazy

don’t blame de victim blame the system

sasuke was so right in his vendetta against the village

(i’m talking bout his actions while he was a konoha shinobi, what he did after he deserted is a whole different thing)

[saschuv]

Thinking about how sad the end to Sasuke’s story is and how his grief and anger is minimised.

Rewatching parts of Naruto and seeing Naruto declaring to sasuke to put all of his hatred onto him and that he’s the only one that can take it is actually so strange. Don’t get me wrong this isn’t hate for his character (okay maybe mild hate because he does do a lot wrong, but so do most Naruto characters and I’m not here to get into that rn). It’s just I find it kind of off… (I know people use this moment as a great sns scene and I have no hate against that ship! This is nothing to do with sns) Sasuke’s grief for his clan and deep seated anger at the village and world is beyond valid. Naruto’s declaration feels slightly entitled? I understand they were friends for a bit and went through a lot together during the short time they were a team and how sasuke is one of Naruto’s first proper connections so it’s all very important to him and so on. It’s just… this isn’t about him? He’s got nothing to do with this? I know it’s about trying to “help” sasuke who is self destructing to get revenge and justice. I’ve spoken before how this fandom compares characters’ traumas a lot and how that’s odd, including how Naruto doesn’t compare to sasuke - both had truly dreadful childhoods, I just think they’re two different traumas and whilst both lonely, are lonely in different ways and for different reasons. And also sasuke is so much more than just lonely. Naruto doesn’t understand Sasuke’s trauma and doesn’t understand his anger. The whole of team 7 disregarded his grief and trauma. At the end of the show Naruto fails to give the Uchiha any justice as hokage and sasuke is manipulated into believing he needs to “repent” and to protect the village. It’s such a sad story. I could say a lot more and this isn’t well articulated at all but anyways… if people disagree or have another interpretation I’d love to hear!

[phoenixremix69]

Sasuke, in my opinion, deserved to fuck off

and I don't mean that in a bad way. Sasuke and Team Taka as a whole were people who got firmly fucked over by the world and shinobi society and deserved to leave.

Juugo was born with an uncontrollable medical condition and the only one willing to "help" him was a genocidal madman that was allowed to do whatever atrocities he felt like because the hokage said to let him go that one time

Karin is a survivor of another genocide, and was only allowed to live because her mother and her were deemed useful enough to live as slaves, to the point where her mother was literally sucked dry of chakra and died. Only to be recruited by, oh my god, same crazy asshole. and that was somehow a step up for her

then Suigetsu, another genocide survivor over another uncontrollable medical condition. except in his case, the uncontrollable part was just him having extra powers with barely any downsides. and in fact, he was jazzed to be part of kiri. he was totally up for being a loyal shinobi and joining their most elite group. But fuck that, tube time

and finally, Sasuke Uchiha. another genocide survivor, except this time, the genocide was performed by the person he loved most in the world. a person who proceeded to torture him for a few days straight. and then got no consequences so for all Sasuke knows, he's been completely free to kill more people and ruin more lives. and the only comfort he has is that he's safe in the village, and that one day he'll be strong enough to kill him. except not. another round of torture and being reminded that he should be strong and the only way to be strong is to give up your bonds. so he does, he gives up on his friends and his village and goes to train with the guy promising him free magic powers. and he does it. he kills the man that's been haunting him for almost a decade. only to be told no, not only did that man love him more than anything, not only was he ordered to kill everyone by the village council, but that same council is still very much in power. In fact, one of them has been abducting orphans and brainwashing them into child soldiers for decades. and literally everyone knew. it's not like kakashi never told anyone, hell, he tried to kill the ninja dictator once. so sasuke goes to kill him, and the konoha council, and every leader who keeps perpetuating this bullshit system. and the whole time, his "friends" keep telling him. "Let it go! ignore the systematic oppression and subsequent slaughter your clan faced for decades. ignore all the atrocities the shinobi system has perpetuated and continues to perpetuate even now! come back to the village that's been fucking you over your entire life!"

Fuck that. at the end of the story, after naruto and sasuke's big final battle, and naruto tells sasuke to come bvack, he should've been like "fuck you. i might not have been right but you sure as shit aren't right either. so you know what i'm gonna do? i'm gonna take my actual team, and these chakra monsters that've also been oppressed and enslaved under the shinobi system, and i'm gonna jump in a dimension hole, and never come back. if you ever want me to reconsider, maybe try living up to your promises and start changing things for the better. i'd start with the actual slavery your girlfriend's "family practices

[martialartslover7]

Sakura VS Sasuke (Kage Summit Arc - Rewrite)

Alright, I cannot hide this anymore. I HAVE to show this. Because I was so freaking annoyed with how the writing of Naruto Shippuden took a serious nosedive after the Pain arc (literally, the only big positive I can name, is Sasuke FINALLY killing that son of a bitch, Danzo, the guy just had it coming with his disgusting anti-Uchiha sentiment, abusing their power for his own aspirations), especially how the Five Kage Summit arc got concluded, with all of Sakura's sacrifices, once again, ultimately leading to yet another failure of hers, which, for some of her supposed IQ level, is just disgraceful (and mind you, I am not blaming Sakura, I am blaming Kishimoto for being a living laughingstock when it comes to writing females, I repeat myself, but this shit seriously gets on my nerves here, because the fandom is just as illiterate, as he is in writing any character with a vagina, on top of being a toxic cesspool too). You can dislike Sakura all you want, but it doesn't change the fact, she is part of the main cast, yet during this arc, where she could have done SOMETHING, she only ended up being a liability, yet again. All that training, all this yearning and devotion, all the sacrifices she made to get to this point to try and face Sasuke on her own terms, and she only ends up hitting a brickwall, as always. As if, all her attributes mean absolutely nothing, and she only exists for Naruto, or anyone else to save her, even in her best form. Yeah, no.

FUCK. EVERY. SINGLE PART. ABOUT ALL THIS.

And well, with all this in mind, I decided to rewrite the entire endgame portion of this arc, down to the root of it. Instead of Sakura hesitating, you will NOT be seeing this with me, the girls in Naruto are all queens, and deserve to be more than just the labels that Kishimoto put on them. She won't kill Sasuke, but she will beat the ever-living crap out of him. He is injured, blinded, exhausted and drained of almost all chakra. It would be STUPID to not see the chance, and get all in. Maximum effort.

And I was actually inspired to write this story, thanks to another dedicated Sakura fan on Twitter, who made this lengthy post, showcasing their efforts to rewrite that portion of the Kage Summit arc, as well. Go and check them out, this story wouldn't have been possible without them. In fact, I took a few notes from it, to write the fight choreography. You will notice, once I show you.

Side-note: And unlike what the canon story did, I will NOT go this route with the cast, Kakashi and the other Jonin will slowly catch on to the fact that, Danzo, and the Konoha elders, had always been the true evil, this whole time. And the assault on the Leaf village, along with the fact that, Naruto's arrival was uncomfortably delayed, all can be traced back to the elders, and mind you, for those who have read my "The Hero, The Blind & The Martyr" story (click the title to immediately get there, to get back up to speed, especially in the final portion), as a follow-up of the rewrite, Nagato had dropped a hint for them to take seriously. That there is a traitor among them, and he wasn't talking about Sasuke. So yes, once the war is over, do not expect Kakashi to play bootlicker to these assholes. And Sasuke WILL be getting the peace and pardoning he, and the rest of his family and clan, so dearly deserve. And Sakura is not blind to it either, anymore.

Especially not Neji, Shikamaru and Kiba, whose families unveil more evidence of what the elders had done, behind the scenes. Yes, another link, connecting to this story, and that is this one:

"Weird Wednesday Headcanon: Outside of Team 7, Neji, Shikamaru and Kiba sympathize the most with Sasuke's fall from grace after the Five Kage Summit"

And now, time for the main event, here is the link:

Sakura VS Sasuke (Kage Summit Arc - Rewrite) - AO3

PEACE.

[appleyass123]

Kakashi Hatake is a bad teacher to Sasuke Uchiha

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Kakashi but there are some moments where I question his leadership and how he teaches his students, especially regarding Sasuke.

Firstly, let's talk about this conversation with Sasuke when he finds out he plans to leave Kohona to take revenge on Itachi. Here we see him trying to talk Sasuke out of it and explain why revenge is a bad way to get justice.

Now I do admit this is really good advice because revenge truly isn't the answer to solve your problems and quench your hatred but then you remember that Kakashi had no problem helping Shikamaru with getting revenge for Asuma when he was murdered.

Not only is it hypocritical but it just goes to show just how dismissive Kakashi is towards Sasuke's suffering. Sasuke is clearly unstable and needs help from not only his friends but his teacher but Kakashi hasn't provided any help from him or tried to understand his trauma.

And don't get me started on this scene right here. Kakashi saves Sakura who nearly gets nerfed by Sasuke and instead of worrying about Sasuke he claims that Sasuke is being brainwashed by Madara when that clearly isn't the case. Sasuke has been mentally unstable for a really long time, from the moments his clan was murdered he changed and became unwell. Sasuke has long planned to take revenge and yet Kakashi thinks that Sasuke is being brainwashed by Madara is COMPLETLY delusional as well as uncaring as this further proves his lack of care for Sasuke's well-being.

And this scene, boy do not get me started on how hypocritical and biased Kakashi is being right here.

At this point, Kakashi is basically projecting his own self-hatred and trauma on Sasuke by claiming that Sakura suffers from her love for Sasuke and that she only wanted to save him claiming her to be the kind and selfless girl for trying to save Sasuke. This is definetly a call-back on how Kakashi failed to see how much Rin loved him and died because of him but that doesn't mean that he gets to project that on Sasuke. This is also a HUGE insult towards Naruto too who has been risking his life to bring Sasuke back and yet this is how Kakashi sees it?

Since when did Sakura attempt to bring Sasuke back? And wasn't she the one who tried to kill him? Sasuke was only defending himself so why is Sasuke the only being treated like he's the wrong person here?

It almost seems like he's trying to force Sakura's feelings onto him and that is not OKAY!

Sasuke isn't obligated to love Sakura if he doesn't want to and all Kakashi does is coddle Sakura whenever she gets rejected by Sasuke and it's clear Kakashi doesn't care about Sasuke's well-being and feelings and honestly I can understand if this is why Sasuke doesn't like Kakashi that much because honestly, Kakashi was nothing but a dick to Sasuke. He failed as a teacher to Sasuke, I'm sorry but it's the truth.

[moldy-flowers]

I think 2025 should be the year Kishimoto lets Sasuke say fuck

[maricacarica]

We severely overlook the fact Sasuke was only seven when massacre happened and he started living alone in whole ass street. Not house, a district. He was only seven, that boy was still running off to Fugaku's and Mikoto's room because of nightmare on regularly bases. And then suddenly he ran into their room and it was empty and cold. He was completely alone in district to comfort him when he was scared. That poor baby probably cried so often because he was scared and yet there was NO ONE to help him. He had to live in that house knowing no one was there to protect him.

[shyflowerhologram]

Sasuke's War Crimes?!

today I saw several posts talking about how Sasuke should have been punished for war crimes. War Crimes. Let me consult Wikipedia:

War crimes - all the things Konoha had done.

What is Sasuke's unforgivable war crime? I've been trying to find answer for years. - Killing Samurai in combat? Sasuke was there for Danzo, if they stepped back he had no interest in them. - Killing Danzo? Maniac who orchestrated Uchiha genocide, why nobody thanked Sasuke for ending that scum? - breaking into Kage summit? If we want righteousness, then other Kages should have executed Danzo themselves. Or at least draft an apology later for trying to stop Sasuke. - Trying to kill Sakura? She was literally there to kill him, she had attacked first. - Trying to kill Naruto? It sound like Sasuke waited behind the door with an axe. Each time Sasuke hit him with chidori, Naruto came back with rasengan, so Naruto was equally trying to kill Sasuke. - Leaving the village that made him and others into a child soldiers (which is a war crime)? Maybe the crime is that nobody is allowed to have a free will in that village? I get it, it's a military village, but Sasuke made it clear that he wasn't planning to go against Konoha, he was going after Itachi, which was supposedly in Konoha's interests. - Or maybe crime was going to Orochimaru? Orochimaru who actually did (and most probably still does) some war crimes but was pardoned and attended Hokage's wedding. - there's also part where he wanted to end Konoha's and other village's war crime record and reform the world but no, we are happy with child soldiers, genocide and power imbalance. The actual words of the argument were "change their idyllic system". Idyllic system. The system was idyllic. - 'joining' Akatuski? Sasuke had never cared about Obito's goals and turned on them almost immediately. - Only thing that seems like an actual violation is attack on B, although B wasn't actually harmed. And it doesn't specify as war crime, B isn't a civilian.

So what is Sasuke's unforgivable crime, the war crime? What he did that was worse than for example - what Orochimaru had done?

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

Shikamaru buried the murderer of his sensei alive and you don't call that "curse of hatred". Imagine what he would have done if someone exterminated his whole family and grave robbed them to implant stolen body parts on themselves. I honestly think you don't appreciate me for how trully chill and rational I am in comparison to the average shinobi.

[tora-the-cat]

A happy ending for Sasuke is literally not even POSSIBLE for basically ALL of Naruto like it's not even funny. He really never even had a CHANCE he has of living a decent life, it's not even on the TABLE, by literally no fault of his own (because he's never done anything wrong). I'm going to scream.

0-6? Forces unbelievably outside of his control are organizing, ensuring, and executing an ethnic cleansing of his entire clan at the hands of his favoritest person in the world. Forces including the shattered psyche of said favoritest person, who tortures him until he is too terrified and traumatized to even think about anything else for years.

7-12? enrolled in Child Soilder School, completely isolated socially (not as a pariah but as a prodigy) befret of any support system, still traumatized beyond belief, and left with no outlet for any of his issues besides obsessing over the day, one day in the future, where Itachi will be dead and all this unresolved suffering and guilt and love and anger and fear and fear and FEAR will go away forever. Right? Because it has to. There has to be an end. Right?

12? Government assigned found family give him the support and love and attention and outlet and for the future that he's been craving for so long he didn't even KNOW it's what he needed. Has a soulmate and a bestie that can read his mind and a mentor who actually is willing to meet him where he's at and help him and maybe even love him and is this......Hope? That perhaps he can have a life outside of what Itachi did to- Itachi. Itach- FUCK. ITACHI IS LITERALLY HUNTING NARUTO FOR SPORT WITH ALL HIS WAR CRIMINAL FRIENDS AND SASUKE SHOULDN'T HAVE LET HIS GUARD DOWN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW STRONG KAKASHI OR EVEN THE WHOLE VILLAGE IS, ITACHI WILL KILL ANYONE SASUKE IS STUPID AND SHORT SIDED AND CRUEL ENOUGH TO CARE ABOUT, HOW DID HE FORGET, HOW DARE HE FORGET, HE NEEDS TO GET STRONGER HE NEEDS TO AVENGE HIS CLAN HE NEEDS TO FUFILL HIS FRATERNAL DUTY HE NEEDS TO LEAVE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE IS MURDERED BY ASSOCIATION-

13-16? He dropped a lit match on his support system behind him him and ran into the cold shadows of obsessive anger that he only stepped out of long enough to loose the ability to ignore the gnawing want for warmth. That's bad enough, not even taking cohabitating with goddamned OROCHIMARU. No further explanation required there.

17? Kills his brother, gets NONE of the 'benefits' he spent his life convincing (begging) himself must be awaiting at the end. Instead everyhting has, in fact, gotten much worse very quickly and now all he has is a list of powerful people and systems that don't work and hurts and kills and tortures the people they've promised to protect that no one except him will oppose because it's basically suicide, and isn't he already so familiar with being on the shit side of this dynamic? Isn't it the normalest thing in the world, to fill the hole where his vengeance used to be with a hunt with near identical goals and intentions of his first vengance, the only real difference being his increasing dissalussion with ever being able to 'go back home', his almost all comsuming doubt that there's a 'home' waiting for him still, if there ever even was? So he dives into another goal before it goes as cold as the love he doesn't dare indulge, accumulating more power and rage then he knows what to do with (where can he put it down? where can he put it down?) and no reason NOT to challange corruption until it's either all gone or it kills him. Naruto, once the only person who looked at him with empathy instead of pity or expectation, thinks he should grit his teeth and bear it and go back to the village, as if that was ever an option for him. Sakura, once the only person who understood him, who followed his every thought process with ease and loved him even when he thought himself a monster, has finally given up on him and tries to kill him. What can he do but laugh as the world burns? It burned him first.

(but if that was true, then why is he still so cold?)