#simultaneously paranoid and oblivious Jon

[kairos-polaris]

I am Very curious about your thoughts on married pre canon jonelias btw. I am looking directly at it.

thank you so much for asking! I Can Not stop thinking about them

took a couple of tries because I just couldn't focus on one thing. my favourite thing is how everything changes while simultaneously nothing does. so here is all the changes by seasons:

some pre canon details: Jon invited Georgie to their wedding, they start talking again after that. Georgie jokes about Elias being jealous but he just smiles and says that Jon is his anyway. for some reason Georgie feels weird about it

Melanie is Georgie's plus one to the wedding

they don't keep their relationship secret, but they aren't obvious, not exactly into pda. Jon does say he wants to keep it secret so he isn't accused of nepotism. there are rumours but no one actually believes them

s1: nothing much changes, except Elias and Jon sound just slightly more fond when talking about each other. they only really look at each other (no one can convince me they don't do it in canon but Jon is more obvious now since he doesn't worry about Elias noticing). they have lunch dates and it's the only way to get Jon to take a break (Elias tells himself it's so his Archivist doesn't collapse too early but he just wants Jon to be healthy). Elias is extra touchy when in front of Martin because he knows about his crush and he gets jealous sooo easily. Elias thinks it's funny and Jon is oblivious

Sasha knows they are married and thinks that's why Jon got the promotion. she probably got hands on their marriage certificate somehow. Sasha talks to Jon about it, says she isn't upset with him. Jon is incredibly flustered and tries to deny it until Sasha says she saw their marriage certificate and then Jon gives up. Sasha promises to not mention it to Tim or Martin, "let them figure it out themselves, you two are obvious enough" and Jon is even more flustered now, he is denying being obvious but Sasha laughs him off

if I wrote this, I would also focus on Elias taking care of Jon and his scars, touching them softly, almost caressing. it makes Jon feel a bit better about it

s2: Jon is just as paranoid as he was canonically but now he feels guilty that he suspects Elias. he tries to tell himself his husband wouldn't do it, he knows him. sexy conversation about Jon still being with Elias despite his doubts and paranoia. Jon raises his chin saying "It's because I know you that I am suspicious. It's not above you to kill Gertrude, is it?" and Elias asks him if Jon isn't worried he will meet the same fate then. Jon falters but says that for some reason he Knows Elias won't kill him and not because he is his husband (Elias is very into Jon Knowing things so he kisses him and the conversation gets derailed)

when Leitner tells him about Elias and Gertrude all Jon can think is that he was right, betrayal comes later, when he returns to his office to Leitner's corpse and he Knows it was Elias. Jon is angry because Leitner could have told him so much more

s3: Georgie takes him in, Jon saying he had a big argument with Elias. she tries to get Jon to talk but he says he doesn't want to think about it and she reluctantly agrees to drop the topic

Daisy contacts Elias first thing as Jon's husband. Daisy is also the one to reveal that Jon and Elias are married, when Tim and Martin (the only ones who didn't know) turn to him in shock and betrayal, all Jon can say is that he thought they knew, that Sasha would tell them. and there are all the rumours. Tim runs off in anger Melanie exchanging glances with Basira, wondering if she should have told them, but she also thought they knew

Jon is a lot more upset when he and Elias are alone. Elias cleans his wounds, kissing his scars (including all the visible worm scars) and Jon softens just slightly, letting himself be pulled into Elias' lap (sitting on someone's lap is Jon's natural habitat, ok?)

Jon moves back in with Elias which makes his relationship with Tim worse. Martin refuses to look him in the eyes, Basira doesn't care and Melanie doesn't like him anyway. Jon tells himself he is living with Elias to be able to catch him unaware and compel him but he just missed his husband and sleeping in the same bed (because he is down bad)

a couple of people suggest divorce (Georgie, Basira, Melanie, Martin) but Jon scoffs and says he doesn't want to waste time on filing documents when he could be working on stopping the Unknowing. he does not file for divorce even after they have figured out everything and all that was left was waiting

they still work to get Elias arrested despite Jon's doubts but Elias betrayed him, can't he do it too? and he wants to prove his trustworthiness

this is getting long, I think I am going to make a part two for seasons 4 and 5

[goodqueenaly]

So, I was thinking, what exactly was Rhaegar’s plan post-pregnancy for Lyanna+child? Or at least, what was the best case scenario for her? (Assuming that Aerys had a weird period of sanity and doesn’t kill Brandon & company and doesn’t ask for the head of Robert & Ned, so the situation doesn’t implode in a full-on civil war) Was she gonna be relegated to Dragonstone as a favored mistress with her bastard son? Would Rhaegar had insisted in keeping them in court so Jon could bond with his (1/2)

siblings/fellow saviors of the world? or do you think he would have pressed the “legitimate polygamous marriage” narrative? (I don’t think he thought that far ahead, but it’s fun to consider what were the endgames)

Honestly, I don't think Rhaegar was really considering the more detailed aspects of his relationship with Lyanna. After all, this is the same man who decided to spectacularly sabotage his own political position by simultaneously insulting his wife, her brothers, the Starks, Robert Baratheon, and his own supremely paranoid father through his stunt at Harrenhal. This was also the man who, upon returning from the south, made a vague comment that "changes [would] be made" following his return from the Trident, totally oblivious to the impossibility of such a plan thanks to his father's tyranny and his own military defense of that tyranny in that very moment. This is also the man who did literally nothing to make sure his wife and children were safe from either his deranged father or anti-Targaryen forces even late in the rebellion, I think because he believed they were prophetically safe.

I think Rhaegar believed that there was an apocalyptic crisis coming. I think Rhaegar came to believe that his children were the key to solving this apocalyptic crisis. I think Rhaegar believed that he needed three children fathered by himself to be the heroes of this apocalyptic crisis. I think that Rhaegar decided Lyanna made a worthy candidate to birth the third child that Elia, so he had been told, could not. Anything beyond these points I think Rhaegar considered secondary, if not totally unimportant. Who cares what Lyanna's title would be at court when the apocalypse is coming? Who cares if Lyanna would be considered legally or officially his wife when the apocalypse is coming? The important thing was that he did his duty - and his duty, so I think Rhaegar saw it, was to make sure the children he believed were necessary to fight the apocalypse got conceived and born. When you've believed since the age of about eight that your entire destiny, your very reason for existing, is tied up in a millennia-long-gestating apocalyptic crisis that you have to solve, I think you'd get pretty good at dismissing the "little" stuff (whatever you consider that to be) in favor of facing that crisis.