#this is a little rough and feels incomplete without Al the visuals I planned for it

[susie-dreemurr]

CH3 Theory: Kris shared the ”Roaring Knight” title with this chapter’s final boss

I’ve made a poll saying I might make a short theory video on this before playing chapter 4, in order to properly process all this new information first, but just in case I decide to give up, here’s the script I just wrote for the video:

Playing chapter 3, one of the things that drew me in the most were the S-Class gaming scenes. They provided a significant amount of material for theories, especially on what’s up with Kris.

Às I played, one of the things that drew me in the most were the S-Class gaming scenes. They seem to provide a lot of potential for theories, especially regarding what’s up with Kris.

Ramb talks of how, as a child, they and “that girl” brought the library laptop home, therefore letting darkner characters like Queen, Spamtom and Tenna meet, seemingly to play pretend in the light world. Ramb acts overly familiar with Kris and their mentality, claiming to know them, and throughout the S-class quest, questions them on what they want. Could this really get you what you want? Your poor mother is in grave danger because of this. Your knife is getting dull. While on its own these dialogues coud just reference only the third fountain, they do not exist in à vaccum

Eventually, Kris meets the S-class game version of Tenna. He starts talking about his past with Spamtom, which is a whole other can of worms, and says “they never should have brought that laptop.” He then notices Kris and is startled, dropping the bombshell of:

Later on the game, Tenna says he was alone until the Knight came. While showing an image of Tenna similar to how ch2 ended, we hear him say how he struck a deal with the Knight to “keep the trio busy” só he could be watched again. This instantly reminded me of this dialogue.

I had already thought Kris was the knight after ch2 but this had made me all the more certain. Kris was the knight, and wanted Tenna to pretend they weren’t in front of their team, wanted Tenna to distract and keep them in this for some time, something that among other things, called back to the theme of escapism prominent in this chapter.

I was so certain, and yet… at the ending, we meet a mysterious character named the Roaring Knight. I was confused, thinking maybe I interpreted it all wrong, but… maybe not.

Às Queen said, the “knight” could be any lightner with the will to create a fountain. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume “The Roaring Knight” is just a title, and not necessarily a person. It is not impossible for that Kris and this mysterious character (who I’ll be calling “Cavaliera” for simplicity’s sake) are working together, both *sharing* this title. Not just in a “Kris opened à fountain once” way, but they’re specifically working together às partners, maybe even taking turns on opening fountains.

In S-Class, mini-Kris enters the bunker and specifically stabs (and kills) Tenna’s character after he anxiously mentions their deal, reminding me of the phrase “stab in the back.” This obviously foreshadows Cavaleira literally striking Tenna in the back (possibly killing him) and kidnapping Undyne to the bunker. I am sure Toby Fox didn’t choose this specific form of foreshadowing for nothing, and believe it’s also meant to signal these two at LEAST working together.

There’s also the fact that Ramb chastises Kris over the situation they put their mother in by intentionally opening the fountain with her inside the room, questioning if this would “get them what they want.” After chapter 2, many speculated on why they did so, and after watching how Cavaleira original kidnapping target was Toriel, i think Kris did this as part of this plan they had together.

Às à bonus, We know the dark worlds are shaped by where the objects are in the light world. Kris and “that girl” got darkners like Queen, Tenna and Spamtom to meet by bringing their light world equivalents together to “play pretend.” They could have either done this intentionally, or genuinely been innocent back then and only later found out they could alter dark worlds like this, but regardless it doesn’t hurt to keep note of this.

If both of them share the “Roaring Knight” title, it’s possible Kris struck the deal with Tenna (às they were the one who opened the fountain [which Tenna knows] and dó not have an alibi from then to Susie waking up) while Cavaleira watched over the show to keep Tenna from breaking the deal for whatever reason. Tenna certainly wouldn’t have reason to mention the identity of the KNIGHT, especially if Kris was involved, it goes against his goal to stay on and have an audience!

I believe I’ve made myself clear on why I think they share thte title, but who IS Cavaleira? Às I want to keep this vídeo short (bc i do want to play ch4 soon, plus this has less evidence) I don’t want to go in depth on it, but I think it is either Mayor Holliday or December, leaning more towards the latter.

Dess’s current absence feels more haunting than the Mayor’s ever did, because it doesn’t have the explanation of “work.” People talk of her às if she was gone. Her connection with Kris and Noelle, how she explored the forest near the bunker (which might have gaster connections) with them, the DECEMBER spelling bee, this… weirdness surrounding her made fans agree she‘s important long ago.

Cavaleira’s design includes horns almost identical to the Hollidays, gaster-like hands and a sword that sometimes looks like a bat. Thsi cant be a coincidence toby Fox pls pls pls

TL;DR: Kris and Dess are working together and share the title of roaring knight (real)

I want to end this off saying I don’t think Kris or Dess are evil or even want to hurt anyone. They could do all this for the sake of some greater good, an objective I just have no way of knowing yet. Regardless of ch4 denying this or not, I enjoyed this little (rushed) thought experiment.