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STAR TREK - S3E10 Plato's Stepchildren

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Star Trek: the Original Series - Season 3 Episode 10 "Plato's Stepchildren"

"Do you still feel anger toward Parmen?"

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Mario and the Magician by Thomas Mann / Star Trek: The Original Series S03E10 / Job 27:5-6 / Achilles Lamenting the Death of Patroclus by Gavin Hamilton / Onegin by Alexander Pushkin / Star Trek: The Original Series S03E10 / Maiden Wine by Leonard Nimoy / The School of Athens by Raphael / Symposium by Plato

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The Original Series - Trekkies' Log

Sezon 1

1x1 The Cage

1x1 The Cage - gdzie się podział kapitan Pike?

1x2 The Man Trap

1×3 Charlie X

1x4 Where No Man Has Gone Before

1x5 The Naked Time

1x6 The Enemy Within

1x7 Mudd's Women

1x8 What Are Little Girls Made Of?

1×9 Miri

1x10 Dagger of the Mind

1x11 The Corbomite Maneuver

1x12 The Menagerie (I)

1x13 The Menagerie (II)

1x14 The Conscience of the King

1×15 Balance of Terror

1x16 Shore Leave

1×17 The Galileo Seven

1x18 The Squire of Gothos

1×19 Arena

1×20 Tomorrow is Yesterday

1x21 Court Martial

1x22 Return of the Archons

1x23 Space Seed

1x24 A Taste of Armageddon

1×25 This Side of Paradise

1×26 The Devil in the Dark

1x27 Errand of Mercy

1x28 The Alternative Factor

1x29 The City on the Edge of Forever

1×30 Operation - Annihilate!

Sezon 2

2x1 Amok Time

2×2 Who Mourns for Adonais?

2x3 The Changeling

2×4 Mirror, Mirror

2x5 The Apple

2x6 The Doomsday Machine

2x7 Catspaw

2×8 I, Mudd

2x9 Metamorphosis

2x10 Journey to Babel

2x11 Friday's Child

2x12 The Deadly Years

2x13 Obsession

2x14 Wolf in the Fold

2x15 The Trouble with Tribbles

2x16 The Gamesters of Triskelion

2x17 A Piece of the Action

2x18 The Immunity Syndrome

2×19 A Private Little War

2×20 Return to Tomorrow

2×21 Patterns of Force

2x22 By Any Other Name

2x23 The Omega Glory

2x24 The Ultimate Computer

2x25 The Paradise Syndrome

2×26 Bread and Circuses

2x27 Assignment: Earth

Sezon 3

3x1 Spock's Brain

3x2 The Enterprise Incident

3x3 And the Children Shall Lead

3x4 Is There in Truth No Beauty?

3x5 Spectre of the Gun

3x6 Day of the Dove

3x7 For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky

3x8 The Tholian Web

3x9 Plato's Stepchildren

3x10 Wink of an Eye

3x11 The Empath

3x12 Elaan of Troyius

3x13 Whom Gods Destroy

3x14 Let That Be Your Last Battlefield

3x15 The Mark of Gideon

3x16 That Which Survives

3×17 The Lights of Zetar

3x18 Requiem for Methuselah

3x19 The Way to Eden

3×20 The Cloud Minders

3x21 The Savage Curtain

3x22 All Our Yesterdays

3x23 Turnabout Intruder

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Powrót do serialu TOS - Planeta Kapeluszy

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Powrót do serialu TOS - recenzje

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Powrót do listy nierecek :)

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TOS REWATCH 2020-2022: SEASON THREE

(reaction post masterlist)

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3x01: Spock’s Brain

3x02: The Enterprise Incident

3x03: The Paradise Syndrome

3x04: And the Children Shall Lead (bonus thoughts)

3x05: Is There In Truth No Beauty?

3x06: Spectre of the Gun

3x07: Day of the Dove

3x08: For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky

3x09: The Tholian Web

3x10: Plato’s Stepchildren

3x11: Wink of an Eye

3x12: The Empath

3x13: Elaan of Troyius

3x14: Whom Gods Destroy

3x15: Let That Be Your Last Battlefield (discussion thoughts)

3x16: The Mark of Gideon

3x17: That Which Survives

3x18: The Lights of Zetar

3x19: Requiem for Methuselah

3x20: The Way to Eden

3x21: The Cloud Minders

3x22: The Savage Curtain

3x23: All Our Yesterdays

3x24: Turnabout Intruder

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DS9 Companion liveblogging (5/14?)

First half of season 3 (3x01-3x10):

Interesting context on the first part of season 3, which was the only time when DS9 was the only new Star Trek show on air (between the end of TNG and beginning of VOY): Quark and Odo were apparently the favorite characters, people wanted more travel outside the station, and were lukewarm toward the Bajoran religious and political plots. Fascinating.

The Defiant was originally going to be called the Valiant but that name was vetoed because it was too similar to Voyager. Both ship names come from TOS episodes.

Some interesting notes on the reveal that the Founders are Odo's race: Behr and Wolfe joked about the Founders being Odo's people throughout season 2, then Michael Piller separately floated the idea to them and they cracked up and decided to propose making that happen. And Auberjonois was worried about the reveal because he'd always joked that the day Odo's backstory is revealed, that's when he's getting written out of the show. But he was reassured that they had more directions to take Odo's character post-reveal.

^ I'm sorry, it will always be funny to me that Bareil had a sizeable fan club. Interesting notes about why Eddington was brought in. (Eddington's character is apparently influenced by a character of the same name in the film In Harm's Way. I am unfamiliar with this film though.)

3x01 "The Search Part I": There's a note here about how Armin Shimerman didn't like the scene where Sisko asks Quark to kiss the nagal staff since there is an air of mocking Ferengi culture to it, but I love that scene. 👀 (For horny reasons lol.) Also apparently the prop sculptor (Dragon Dronet) based the head of the staff on Quark since he was given Quark's picture as a reference and didn't realize the prop was meant to belong to another character entirely.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Jadzia's very short-lived hairstyle in this season opener. Apparently it was controversial so it was changed afterward.

3x03 "The House of Quark": Love this episode because of all the ridiculous drama of Klingon noble houses and inheritance law meeting very polar opposite Ferengi sensibilities. There's some notes here on how Gowron's actor Robert O'Reilly was pleasantly surprised to transition to DS9 after TNG ended. Also, this is sweet:

Looks like Keiko's temporary departure from the show was to free up Colm Meaney for film projects (mentioned earlier) and to allow more focus on the Bashir/O'Brien relationship.

The story behind 3x04 "Equilibrium" is so funny. Basically, a producer got really into a stage magician and bought a pitch for a DS9 episode that just had the magician as a guest actor and his act involving masks, and the writing team had to create a whole plot around it: "Moore recalls that the original storyline had something to do with 'the circus coming to Deep Space 9, and this magician was in it, and we thought, "Well, we're not gonna do that."'" -- lmao. Initially it was about Odo before they realised that masks worked better as a metaphor for Trill hosts.

Apparently, the original plot of 3x05 "Second Skin" involved O'Brien as the secret undercover Cardassian instead of Kira, but the writer couldn't make it work with the Keiko/Miles marriage resulting in a human baby. Also some interesting thoughts on a more ambiguous version of the ending we got, where it is Kira's determination to be Kira and Bajoran that is what makes her so:

(The theme of this episode is that everyone is wearing a fake deceptive appearance (i.e. a second skin): Kira, Ghemor, the Defiant and Sisko, Garak, etc.)

Wow, lots of interesting notes on 3x06 "The Abandoned" -- so many I can't really summarize them all. Briefly: a lot of teenagers growing up/maturing in this ep including Jake, the Jem'Hadar, and Odo himself; Avery Brooks (who directed this ep) felt it was very much an allegory for how to deal with a generation of troubled, addicted, and potentially violent youths and what it says about society if it gives up on them (very much grappling with race and class issues although through sci-fi allegory and not direct analogy); Mardah's time on DS9 spanned from 2x17 "Playing God" to 3x10 "Fascination"; the way people worry about the age difference and Mardah's job but no one in this episode blinks an eye at her and Jake's interracial relationship, a casual depiction of a post-racial world; Jake gets a new outfit; Sisko also gets a dignified three-piece outfit for the dinner with Mardah, to indicate how seriously he's taking meeting Jake's girlfriend and how he doesn't want to embarrass Jake.

Also some interesting notes on Odo getting quarters in this ep (including the scene where Kira gives Odo flowers that he puts in his old bucket, and later flings that bucket/vase in 4x13 "Crossfire" -- Auberjonois added that detail to the "Crossfire" scene) and also makeup restrictions on babies/children, which constrained the young Jem'Hadar looks.

I like how the synopsis of 3x07 "Civil Defense" only covers the A and B plots of the Ops group and the ore processing group, making no mention of the Quark and Odo C plot. It's okay -- the two of them literally contribute nothing plot-relevant to that episode lmao. Reading the summary, I really love this episode. It's one of my favorites just for the ridiculousness of the security program that has Dukat cringily chastising rebelling Bajoran workers and responding to an increasingly severe hypothetical uprising in a way that manages to come off as both smug and panicked, and his boss publicly shaming him for abandoning his post lol. Like, nothing about this security program makes sense; it's all just done for the lols and for the sake of making things increasingly dire. I suppose maybe it establishes that there is just something buffoonish about the way the Cardassian military (/fascist governments more generally) operate. But mostly it's just a very silly plot.

On polishing the script for 3x07 "Civil Defense": "'He [Michael Piller] hated it, he hated it, he hated it,' states Behr, likening the tortuous experience to one he and the other staff writers on TNG went through to turn 'Yesterday's Enterprise' into a solid script." -- So surprising to hear this, because the final result (of both episodes) is so good! I am considering reading whatever is the TNG equivalent of this book because I have so many questions about what they were thinking / what was going on in some of those episodes and plotlines...

^ O-omg... 😂

^ I always wondered about this... I like the look without the belt better too, although maybe if it were around longer it would have grown on me.

^ I agree. 3x10 "Meridian" sucks. It has some interesting cinematography because Frakes directed it but the romance in it is so painful and unconvincing.

Dang, I didn't realize the alien in this episode was Jeffrey Combs' first Star Trek role ever. (Apparently, Frakes cast him because he remembered him from the Riker audition! -- according to Memory Alpha, not this book.)

^ I always kind of wondered (1) when did the writers first get the idea to make Odo's feelings for Kira romantic, and (2) when in the timeline of their relationship did Odo develop his crush (kind of wondering the same question, just from a Doylist + Watsonian point of view). For (2), I think this is the earliest explicit moment (it has kind of a "I hope this doesn't awaken anything in me" kind of vibe going on with Odo), although I suppose the feelings could have started earlier. But it looks like the answer to (1) is sometime after this point. Interesting!

(Also, I feel kinda bad for Quark in this episode as I think a lot of the humor is a bit mean-spirited/at his expense. But at the same time, Kira and Odo ganging up on Quark is a great dynamic (see also: 2x24 "The Collaborator").)

Some interesting notes on 3x09 "Defiant" on where the story idea came from (they wanted to do something with Tom Riker and have a plot where the Maquis are gaining strength due to his help/leadership); the humanization of Dukat; Tom's characterization (vs. Riker); that this episode sets up that the Obsidian Order are planning something but what exactly was not decided at this point; and the dangling plot thread of what happened to Riker. I agree that it always bugged me that you never find out what happened to Tom (Frakes says he envisions Kira would at some point get sent to Cardassia to get him out of his sentence). He and Kurn are two great TNG characters that DS9 brought back just to do something vaguely depressing with, and I'm honestly tempted to just render those plotlines non-canon. 🤷‍♀️

Some interesting notes on (1) 3x10 "Fascination" being an homage to A Midsummer Night's Dream, and (2) how the set design and costumes were played with in light of that:

Also, OMG:

^ I mean, Quark does have cartoon character energy... Shimerman's evaluation of the episode is a bit cranky but he's not wrong.

More on the earlier note about Odo's crush on Kira from "Meridian": "And it ["Fascination"] openly reveals a plot point that only had been hinted at previously: the fact that Odo loves Kira. Interestingly, this was a case where an actor's performance strongly influenced the producers. 'There was a moment in 'The Collaborator,' Behr recalls, 'where Rene [Auberjonois] does a take with Nana that we hadn't been expecting. And we all looked at it and said, "Odo loves her. That's what he's playing!" Recognizing the rich story possibilities, Behr's team took the ball and ran with it, giving Auberjonois plenty of material to play with in the coming seasons." (I'm guessing he was referring to "Meridian," not "The Collaborator.")

Oops, I have to end this post a bit early because apparently I am hitting Tumblr's limit for images in posts. (Also, I know I focus on Odo and Quark a lot in my notes. I am biased.)

[smallblueandloud]

we also watched tng 3x10 the defector last night, which was VERY good in that it had good moments for almost every crewmember. picard and data perform shakespeare together, apparently?? i love it.

it was fascinating to watch this right after tos 2x06, which is so focused on the chain of command and who can give orders. in tng, riker just casually gives orders while picard is on the bridge and no one says anything. because it's fine! this is the USS NPR and the bridge crew meditates together :)

[evviejo]

STAR TREK // S3E10 Plato's Stepchildren Uncontrolled power will turn even saints into savages.

[mr--spock]

"Do you still feel anger toward Parmen?"

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[captainsantiagos]

Hannah what is the best b99 episode on Netflix to cheer me up that isn't a Halloween episode or the beach house one bc ive watched those recently bc they're my go-tos but I want something new

HI LUCY! Now I know you only asked for one but any of these that I list are fantastic episodes and you could pick any of these and it would have my highest recommendation (All episodes are fantastic but I get the feeling you want a squad driven episode.)

1x05 - The Vulture (A go to of mine because I feel like it is the first time you really feel the cast gelling together and the squad work so well off of each other it is a GIFT.)

1x07 - 48 Hours (Another squad episode that I love with all my heart.)

1x16 - The Party (Honestly this episode probably sits just outside my Top 5! I love it so much. Every plotline was genuinely funny and interesting 10/10 would recommend)

2x17 - Boyle-Linetti Wedding (Seriously my fave episode until HalloVeen. Again, every single storyline makes me laugh my head off.)

3x10 - Yippie Kayak (I will never not laugh at Amy in this episode.)

4x03 - Coral Palms Pt.3 (Squad being the best. Seriously funny episode. Gina kills me.)

4x17 - Cop Con (Underrated tbh. Another episode where every plotline is really funny.)

I hope you find an episode you love within this list Lucy and I hope you feel better soon <3333333

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