#trigun rant

[stefisdoingthings]

wings

[yayee-pspsps]

You know what hell yeah

[lunarelly]

mwah mwah mwah i love you characters that are not entirely human thus separating you from humanity thus you grapple with your purpose and identity every single day for your whole life mwaaaaahhhh

[makima-s-most-smile]

Gosh, yeah, the neverending question about Wolfwood's age. Problem is, Nightow goes by vibes and wholly by vibes. That's his whole worldbuilding. And damn, is he good at character writing. But a coherent timeline?!?! Naw, man.

Added to that, many manga show a distintive age timeline of Baby, Toddler, Child, Teen (which many manga focus at), Young Adult around 20, 40/50+, Ancient. So trying to pry an age of a character from their looks is nigh impossible.

If we take Maylene to build a timeline in comparison... She is at least an older teen around 16 years, if not a young adult around 20 years of age, when Wolfwood meets her again on his way to Jeneora Rock. And that was before the story in the manga starts.

So by that. Let's say caretaker Wolfwood was around 8-10 and Maylene was 2 when adopted out. With her being at least a teen, even if we go very young teen with 14 years like Lina, Wolfwood would be 20-22 at the start of Trigun Ultimate. And around 22-25 years old at his death.

And then there is Jasmine. In Livio's flashback, she was younger than Wolfwood and him, but not by such a degree that separated the ages of Wolfwood and Maylene. And when we meet her again near the climax of the story, she seems to be a young adult. Let's say, since she was able to keep a dog and help with household chores... She was around 6-8 years old and Wolfwood and Livio likewise around 8-10 years old. With her as a grown adult at the end of the manga, say she is 20. That would make Livio and Wolfwood around 20-24 years old at the end of the manga.

In former times, children would leave their home for an apprenticeship at the age of 12 and older. Taking Nightow's word for the six year time gap between leaving and coming back, Wolfwood would then be around 15-16+ years at the start of Trigun Ultimate and around 18 at the start of Trimax and around 19 at his death.

Then again... Wolfwood parting ways with the orphanage to learn a trade looks much younger than the one taking care of Maylene or Livio/Jasmine.

Though the focus of the scenes are also very different, which the latter being about Wolfwood's parentification and his life in the orphanage while the other one is about Wolfwood dying and parting ways way to young.

For me, all of this is contradicting.

Nightow wanted Wolfwood uniting with the orphanage to be more emotionally impactful. And that is done easier with Wolfwood still having peers living there. People who knew him once and from whom he differs greatly today. The difference between them is jarring. Especially with Wolfwood all in black.

Unlike 98' Wolfwood, Trimax Wolfwood protects his home and his peers. It is not only a concept for him. And not something he build up himself to protect others like him. The orphanage has as a place a completely different meaning for him than for 98' WW. And the resulting 'Welcome home' after all he had done gives credit to that. Because it is emotionally obliterating. Wolfwood's death and the grief that follows kinda overshadows the finale (for me).

But it also... kinda shows where Nightow's focus was. And that wasn't on the timeline or the worldbuilding, it was on character moments and motivations. Wolfwood left the orphanage as a child, trauma and pain made him grow up too quickly. Literally with the vials and experiments. And that build a chasm between him and his peers in age.

All in all, Wolfwood's age cannot even called Schroedinger's age, since looking at it more closely brings you not results but confusion. He was build up as an adult. The vials and the aging up seemed to be a late stage addition to make his death more painful.

I think Nightow succeded with that.

How old is Wolfwood in Trimax?

Hello :] this is going to be a small analysis for fun on how old I think Wolfwood is! This is all speculation so don’t get mad at me pls lol.

Personally, I think Wolfwood is around 15-16 years old [in trimax]

We don’t have a lot to go on so this age is extremely speculative. While we do have quite a few flashbacks, the only one we have with a date is when Wolfwood is adopted by the EoM. Wolfwood recounts that it was about 6 years ago. In my opinion Wolfwood here is at the very youngest 9 and at the very oldest 12 (so tiny!)

He looks pretty young in the specific memory in leaving, however there are scenes where he definitely appears to be older that we know occur before he leaves the orphanage.

Wolfwood and Chapels memories together unfortunately have no dates attached to them so they can really only be used to rule out ages. I think he’s about 13-14 before the treatments started. 👇

So going off these estimates, at the end of maximum, Wolfwood would be around 15 to 18 years old. Personally I lean towards the younger end of the spectrum because of Wolfwood’s insistence that he looks shockingly older than he should. It’s not impossible for a 17-18 year old boy to look a lot older than their age which is why I don’t think he would fall in that range.

I’d like to hear everyone else’s thoughts! This was just for fun so don’t get too heated about this lol.

[ohitslen]

*Vampirizes your Vashwood*

keep reading for more :)

If there needs to be much closer close-up please let me know!

[duncanor]

The implication in this panel that Rem was a bit of an alcoholic when she was depressed and grieving.

Vash really is like his mother.

[i-am-the-monster]

To all the people imposing there opinions really meanly ( I support all ships unless people get nasty about others) that Vash and Wolfwood is overrated and not real and disgusting I present these two shots of the Manga.

This is literally beautiful that's it that's the post

( for the record I also love Wolfwood and Milly and Vash and Meryl)

[makima-s-most-smile]

Why would you think people on No-Man's-Land do not need exorcisms? (No one needs that... but I digress)

People do not have easy access to doctors. Like at the start of Trigun Ultimate people tried to catch Vash, because they were unable to pay for a doctor in town. And that was April, one of the biggest cities! (Granted, this was the start of the story and Nightow was still finding his footing... 50 Plants dead, my butt!)

Desperate people with no access to healthcare look for help elsewhere. Today it may be essential oils, crystals and so on. Then it may be exorcisms and other practices. If you watch your relative speak to someone not there or falling to the floor in jerking motions, you want to help them, but have no means to even understand what is happening to them. You want if not a cure, at least something to lessen the pain.

And baptising children, blessing stuff (if it is sentimental, it helps/soothes the community and thus lines up with the real meaning of the position of a priest, if it is stuff like weapons, well, some bastard pays him for something that has no effect whatsoever), confessions (helps the community and people again) and giving the last rites (helps people passing on and helps the people staying behind). Those are victimless crimes. In a way. Why shouldn't he earn money that way?(Not like he is a fucking bleeding heart for children anyway) And no way old ladies see right through him!

The only reason why Wolfwood wouldn't do exorcisms is because it it outright abuse and... Listen, killing people is okay, they most likely are bad people anyway, but torturing some random soul just so he can get a few bucks out of it? Naw, man, would remind him of his own time on the altar of the angels. (Or in 98WW case would remind him of poor abused children that he had to take into his orphanage)

thinking of wolfwood scamming people. then i thought too bad people on no mans land don't need exorcism, fake or real.

then i thought wolfwood would do it just like miroku from inu yasha. their priesthood is really mostly in name, isn't it

[cedarnommer]

I've been thinking about it for a bit, but I think Trigun is the perfect example of an alternate form of masculinity. Vash is clearly a character that's shown to be masculine, but instead of his actions being shown as an exemplary manly man, it's more like he's a subversion of that masculinity. He's supposedly lazy, bad with alcohol and attracting women all around him. And then it turns out that there's a man in there that's just suffering and yet so loving and caring. He does the things he does in order to connect with people, to see them smile, to make their day better. His masculinity is never as a show of power, strength and authority. Instead it's always about the love he learned during his days with Rem. Because the world doesn't have to be in conflict. Because every little living thing matters. His painful fight is against actors that are more than happy to instead stomp out life for their beliefs or benefits. Yet he never falters. He never wants to kill anyone. No matter how much he suffers in the process.

I think this form of masculinity is important. It's one that should be looked at more often. Men shouldn't be these senseless unfeeling monsters that some culture tries to make them out to be. They should be vulnerable, emotional and with many moments of weakness. And they should be shown forging deep connections with others. To be shown them being genuinely loving and kind.

[makima-s-most-smile]

[crimson-nail]

GIVE ME CONTROL OF S2 DONT BE SHY I DONT BITE PUT YOUR FINGERS IN MY ENCLOSURE I DONT BITE

[viccytheimpaler]

hi please don’t crucify me for this take but this

to this

was an absolute downgrade

[stardustcleaningguy]

i really genuinely believe that of the entire tristamp cast, zazie had the best redesign of them all like ??

not only did we get this epic design but we also got an explanation into their motivations and a much more interesting way of controlling and using the worms than just using a wave frequency device - which can also be used as a tool to watch things from afar !! - AND an even cooler second design with the mask and insect-like face !!!!

just feel like in general people dont talk enough about how cool this redesign was, zazie went from a fairly insignificant, one episode charcater to an actual interesting part of the show that feeds into the worldbuilding and plot a LOT more :D

[revenantghost]

I love, love, love the subtle world-building of this scene

We can't build them anymore

Not birth, not duplicate, not even create. A century and a half into their history on this planet, and the concept of plants even being alive seems to be distant. Knives might see them as soulless (as Conrad says they both do), but it's obvious the rest of humanity has that same thought, even if there's less logic behind it.

[junipersrambles]

I know I'm a chronic hater of sorts, but I never really liked Trigun Stampede. So I can't say I have the highest hopes for Stargaze.

I like certain elements of the show, and I do appreciate that more people know about Trigun now than before. I like the soundtrack and overall art design. I also really like the arc they gave Meryl.

I also think that they are making some strange choices with characterization as well as character design. I'm not saying it has to be exactly like the original. I'm only concerned because many of the elements and themes I enjoyed in Trigun Maximum, or even in 98' are not present. I could be wrong, and these things definitely could change as the show progresses.

At the end of the day I just hope that people who like Stampede decide to try out Trigun in its other iterations. Those are the versions that happened to stick with me in the long run. I'll still watch Stargaze to see how it turns out. I will remain skeptical in the meantime.

[millionsghosts]

Trigun's so funny because I consider both Stampede and 98 silly comfort shows mostly. And then when I log onto tumblr I see the most soul crushing analysis pieces and fanarts of all time and it still makes sense. Like suddenly I'm bawling my eyes out over a picture of a couch from the silly space show.