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holy-muffins · 6 months ago

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[Edit after writing: this got long, scroll on if this isn't an inane internet drama you're into]

Seeing people make that jump over to Xiaohongshu (I think that's how it's spelled) / Red Book / Rednote is very sweet in the early days of it. There are already some people finding that certain content is Not Allowed and getting posts limited/deleted/accounts banned but that's honestly probably every platform at this point. [staff here for instance have a beef with ace hardware fans iykyk]

BUT as for tumblr -- I have seen a deeply non-zero number of tiktoks saying "We should go back to tumblr!" and I do think that some people are going to do that, but not en masse like twitter and reddit users did.

I think the reason is multifaceted -

Tumblr doesn't appear to be easy to learn if you didn't know how to use it before. I say this because Tumblr is difficult enough to learn if you're into text/forum/image style sites like reddit, twitter, and imgr but the general format is still the same 'find primarily written content you want to look at, and look at it between images and limited instances of video' which is ultimately pretty easy for twitter/reddit/imgr refugees. Things like our tagging etiquette, how to block tags, content, and blogs aren't intuitive to learn on either the desktop or the mobile version, and it seems to be hard to figure out if it's okay to reblog things or not [a huge thing I noticed with the various migrations was that people thought "Do not repost this" meant BOTH not, well, reposting the art but also instructions to not reblog it].

There is no tumblr clout and what I mean by that is that one of the worst things that can happen to you on tumblr is to get tumblr famous. Tumblr famous people can only rarely use that fame for clout and are at risk of all manners of nonsense. Only look at how many have been driven to creative uses of the site to protect their privacy and safety after a tumblr callout blog went after them for real or imagined high crimes. You probably just thought of a few tumblr users off the top of your head who turn off anon and publish every ask, or turn off their inboxes, or lurk in a deactivated state, or change their username and longtime profile pic, or just leave/get bullied off entirely.

Sub-point of 2, is that there is no 'creator fund' and there is no 'qualify for paid content' from tumblr itself. They keep literally saying if we don't turn a profit they're turning our site off. Do you think that's a site that is going to pay any of its users to just be Out There Makin' Content(TM) for a few pennies a view?

This probably could go in as a sub-point of 1, but the growth limiting factor on tumblr is "you must decide what you would like to see and seek it out," which is very much not how tiktok operates for people. Are there awesome things on there that are very much something I found I was interested in once I saw them? Yes! Absolutely! It never would have occurred to me to look for that kind of content on tumblr organically, so I'd never find a tag to follow, I'd never find blogs to follow, etc. If you are used to discovering constantly new things, tumblr as-used is not amazing at that and literally never has been.

So you have a userbase on tiktok who either is integrating their business plan [even if the business plan is yapping] based on getting paid by the platform OR is on the platform to be entertained and build a community without a toooooonnnnnnn of additional work on their end beyond interacting with the timeline.

Tumblr could bring back tipping, it could try out pay-to-view posts again, it could even call up whoever was running tumblr live and see if they'll come back after the horrible way we all talked about tumblr live - but even with these three things, it isn't going to bring in the money that people who make their living by Being On TikTok are counting on.

Tumblr could make the feed more TikTok-like in just endless algorithmic slop, but that would drive away the userbase they have already -- AND the tiktokers by and large don't know and won't learn how to even USE tumblr, so they wouldn't come even if the feed WAS more TikTok-like. So there's no need for the change, since it wouldn't bring users and would in fact drive many away.

TLDR: Tumblr is like Mars. The gravity works better than the moon, but it's hella hard to get to and probably not worth colonizing when it's easier to get to the moon.

I find it so funny, in light of TikTok’s imminent American demise, that even now they aren’t considering moving to tumblr. The last two social media refugee crises (Twitter -> X and whatever happened with Reddit) prompted a wave of wide-eyed new baffled tumblr users to flood this app and yet last I heard all of the tiktokers are flooding en-masse a Chinese social media app. That is entirely in Mandarin. Instead of moving to tumblr.

#honestly didn't even think of OP being creative to decoy themselves as inactve #was thinking of a totally different user honestly and promise

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isackhadjargf · 2 years ago

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#paging bas slagbutton #sebastian vettel #vettelsource #f1 #formula 1 #f1edit #*#userbas #.gif

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opalsiren · 3 years ago

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at the risk of sounding like a boomer i think the reason why vine was so special compared to tiktok is that a platform can't get all but consumed by brands and corporations when the content it hosts is only six seconds long. undisclosed sponsorships, brand deals, and other such paid opportunities can't thrive within such a stringent time limit. vine had its issues for sure but by and large felt like a platform run mainly for its users

tiktok by contrast is all but controlled by corporate interests dictating what the algorithm spits out, the content that actually goes viral let alone what makes it to a given user's screen. maybe it's just nostalgia goggles, or perhaps vine would have mutated into every other social media platform trying to be instagramtwitterfacebooksnapchatyoutube all at once had it survived past 2016, but i do think that the strict parameters for the types of content one could host on vine at least made it feel hostile to the demands and interests of capital

#but then social media has evolved rapidly since even 2016. i stopped using ig in 2017 or 2018 and every time i see someone scroll down their #feed it really just looks like a shopping platform more than anything else. so maybe vine would have to get with the times so to speak #maybe that's precisely why the app died? because the lack of corporate interest was fundamentally unprofitable #me: never had a vine nor tiktok account #also me: anyway here are Some Thoughts #not to generalise but beauty tiktok is basically 2016 beautube likeevery other viddy is basically an undisclosed sponsorship.#usually for the same 3-5 products. undisclosed brand deals and partnerships are rife on tiktok in a way they haven't been since 2015-17 #beauty youtube. and i truly don't understand how these creators let alone the brands involved get away with it? maybe tiktok's main userbas #is too young to remember 2015 youtube. or maybe i am really starting to sound like a condescending boomer lol #.txt #queue

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teaveetamer · 3 years ago

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when you’re talking about edelstans are you just talking about what you find on reddit? because it sounds like a lot of what you have problems with and believe edelstans mostly are (cishet (american) men) are just the typical reddit userbas?

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. I don't have problems with cishet white men and I don't have problems with Reddit-as-a-concept or people who use it. I have issues with the ignorant cishet white viewpoint often supported by Edelgard stans (which does not apply exclusively to cishet white men or to Reddit, it's just where most of these things happen to originate).

Here's an example of what I'm talking about: have you ever heard the take that "Dimitri is ruder in Japanese"? Keep in mind where you first heard that if you have. I've personally seen it numerous times on both Twitter and Tumblr, parroted entirely by people who do not speak Japanese in any form and who have no idea where it came from in the first place.

Now I'll tell you where it came from. It came from a white, American Redditor who grossly misunderstood how the Japanese language implements pronouns and politeness. Then other ignorant (frequently white, American) Redditors saw that and parroted it to wider circles, and it caught on with them because it aligned with their biases so they parroted it to even wider circles, etc. That means this extremely ignorant take which ignores a massive component of Japanese language and culture, created by a white American man, is constantly parroted by Edelgard stans of all stripes as if it is indisputable fact. In fact that ignorance is celebrated by them because it aligns with their biases.

The reason why I tend to look to Reddit when discussing these things is because Reddit is such a large component of the Edelgard standom, and many of the things the standom discusses and supports can be traced directly back to it.

Hope that answered your question, anon :)

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