#uu victhor

[digitalzombie]

Ch. 19 | Undead Unluck | Tozuka Yoshifumi

[wickedsick]

I'M NOT READYYY

EVERYONE LOOKS SO GOOODDDD

SHEN AND MUI HAVE KIDS

MICO IS THEREEEE

"fuuko's attendant" THERE'S STILL TIME TO ADD A THIRD MEMBER TO THE WEDDING

I'M STILL CLASSIFYING THIS AS YURI

WHAT IF WE KISSED ON MOUNT ARARAT

I love this goal for them

Also WIND because they WON

We finally have an organization that doesn't have the UN beginning because there's no more negation abilities

I AM LITERALLY VIBRATING WITH EXCITEMENT I LOVE THIS SERIES SO MUCHHHH

LET FUUKO BE BUTCH

BILLY AND TELLA AREN'T MERCS ANYMORE

It's because of working at Chikara's school, right? God I fucking love that for them

Everyone's doing so WELL I'm going INSANEEEEE

FENG IS A TEACHER

FIVE POINT LANDING BABY

I love how they're both taking the knee it's so good. You're not even supposed to do that in a wedding! That's for proposing!

With the MOON IN THE FUCKING BACKGROUND

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THAT WAS SO FUCKING GOODDDDDDDDD

I've had my issues with the pacing in this series, but my god is this the perfect finale. Everyone's doing what they want to in life, they're all still friends, the wedding is just as batshit insane as these two deserve...

You know what?

For a manga like Undead Unluck, this is the greatest ending-

No, the greatest death-

Ever.

Now let's enjoy life, everybody.

[derseprinceoftbd]

I love this manga so much guys

[ilovelumity3000]

I am still not over the implications of flashback Juiz:

Like, her apearance in all those scenes means one of two things:

She used to have short hair and look more masculine (the boring answer), or...

She was once a guy

Now, was it becuase she was born before the Gender UMA, as people have speculated for years? Did she actually went through HRT in one of the loops with Victor's support, and there is no magical element to her gender? Honestly, i have no idea... but, even if the UMA theory is the correct one, that would simply make her the world's oldest trans woman

The Big Good of the story might be trans, and it was revealed in the most casual way imaginable

Anyway, read Undead Unluck, its amazing

[spiracchi]

OMGGGGGGG THIS MAN IS SO IN LOVE IT HURTS ALL HE WANTS TO SEE IS HIS WIFE HAPPY OMGGGGGG

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Source: Undead Unluck [2023]

[derseprinceoftbd]

That last one tho

i really really like victor and juiz

[animehouse-moe]

Undead Unluck Episode 6: Spoil

David pro might not be perfect, and the CGI might be arguably even more clunky than what Zom 100 is working with. But you have to admit, there's a lot of charm in this episode. There's also a lot of information, so plenty for me to talk about!

I'll get it out of the way first, I love how Yase and co are approaching the framing in UU. Wide shots that tend to place character and focus on the bottom or top third is very very fun, and they love playing around with those ideas to create interestingly spaced shots. It can be seen as a bold decision, but I think it's a really important one as it plays into the visual identity of the series while staving off boredom during exposition.

The art in general is just so damn bold. It really goes all out with what it has, and effectively considers the thought of "what is the most that I can do in this moment?", and it delivers incredible pieces.

Though I think the real icing on the cake is the first reveal for Spoil. Not the one that happens at the end of the episode, but the one that happens through the secondhand account of Union investigators, relayed to Fuuko and everyone.

It's just incredibly good, and proves you don't need scary imagery or jumpscares to really provide a sense of discomfort and unease. Really really great work that doesn't use zombies or Spoil as a crutch to express anything about the UMA, and plays directly into the best vehicle for horror: the imagination.

Alright, last piece about visuals, and it's David's 2D smoke. My god I love it, I can't fathom why other studios put their smoke through so many visual effects when you can produce incredible works like this. Getting to see how the smoke moves, it's just such an impressive feat of animation that so often gets overshadowed by composition and other visual effects.

Anyways, onto the story! There's a lot of really really interesting ideas that I'd love to explore here.

First of all, why was only a single corpse appearing in New York City? Obviously, some of them can have a will like the woman in this episode, but how on earth do you get from wherever Longing is to New York City without being spotted? Personally, I feel like it has something to do with Spoil, but I have no idea what the objective would be in placing a rotten corpse in NYC, when Spoil's ability is denoted to be a continuous activation ability within a set range. Not quite adding up, so I'm very curious to find out the reasoning behind its appearance.

Next up is Victhor, as Shen says. Gena was (as far as we know) the oldest of the Union members that are currently active and/or alive, but Mr. Know-It-All could also have been the source of that information. Regardless, Shen was told by someone at the Union about Andy's past, which insinuates the fact that Andy is repressing either that past, or a personality via the shard in his head. Considering the content of the ending, it's rather clear cut that his past was traumatic and something that he's fleeing from, so I'm very interested to learn more about these two Undead's that have been displayed.

And Shen just keeps layering on the explanations.

Shen calls UMAs "the very Rules themselves" which is interesting as it closes the rift between the idea of Rules and UMAs. Which makes building an image of the world leading up to this moment that much harder. Juiz references "Rules" in a separate context to how Shen explains them here, dropping the "UMA" association within her explanation to Fuuko in the prior episode.

Because of that, I'm not entirely certain that Rules and UMAs are one in the same, but it's hard to find the correct separation due to Shen's words. Do these Rules always exist, and UMAs are more like direct enforcers of those rules? It means that UMAs stem directly from whatever God exists, regardless. They are not a happenstance or byproduct of Rule in any capacity, like Negators might be. Though, at the same time, the idea behind the quests begs the question: where do negators come from?

They are a separate class from UMAs which "enforce" rules while Negators break them. They are also humans in comparison to, well, "angels" as the episode so eloquently references them. Having that imagery, and understanding that a god exists makes me think that there's multiple, or it's a case of betrayal or whatnot where one entity sides with humanity and the other is against it. The question is why that would happen in the first place, and how these entities settled on, or even agreed, to this concept of quests and Rules.

But that's a discussion for another time, let's talk about the little bit that a group of kids gives us!

All these children have much larger timers than what Andy and the others have, but why?

Furthermore, that many seconds (or about 2.5 hours) is far too short for the children to have survived on. So, do kids just get a longer timer from Spoil? That can't be it, because the children's ability to last for at least a full day would mean that Spoil's ability is entirely unbalanced. Alongside that, it can't be that Spoil assigns a different timer based on age, because we're shown a child in the crowd of zombies during the episode.

It also can't be because they're underground, as both Fuuko and Shen start with a 1,000 second timer. So it's something intrinsic to people, not necessarily children.

So, for the sake of argument, let's assume that every living entity is given a timer of 1,000 seconds before they spoil. How then, are you able to increase that timer, and what is it about these children that is different from the rest?

Well, the largest thing is that they're completely isolated from the rest of the zombies. But space from the zombies and Spoil itself wouldn't be effective, as I've already explained above.

You might argue that the children could move back and forth between the edge of Spoil's range, but that would still just incur a 1,000 second timer, and we don't even have a guarantee that exiting the range will prevent the spoiling or the countdown.

To that end, I might have just answered my own question about the rotten corpse in NYC. That corpse may have been the first to appear from Spoil, but exited Longing before his timer went off. That would mean that the timer was still incurred, as would be implied by the idea of a "curse", but would also mean that adults would be able to increase their timer through some method.

So it can't be something entirely exclusive to children if we open it up to that idea.

Everybody would be aware of their timer when it appears, but the question is whether or not they're aware of what it is. Does awareness of what the countdown implies change how it works? Did Spoil tell people what was happening when he first appeared in the town? Thanks to the woman Andy marries, we know that zombies understand what Spoil is and where he might be.

I'd argue that you might be able to explain that thanks to their "connection" to Spoil, but Andy doesn't get that information once he begins to spoil. That means that the woman knew what Spoil was prior to her zombification, but I have no way of knowing if that's the case for everyone else.

But, for the sake of this theory that's gone on far too long, let's make some bold assumptions. Spoil appears in town and announces that they're going to turn people into zombies. Panic ensues. People attempt to flee, children get stuffed in underground tunnels. A survey group appears and engages in a hopeless rally against Spoil's ability.....

I think that's it. The survey group did not take 1000 seconds to spoil like Andy did, but they would have had a timer for 1000 seconds all the same. Now, an even crazier assumption is that the zombies didn't kill that survey team (as we have no visual proof, nor do we see any zombies attempt to directly harm the group in this episode), which means they expired far faster than 1,000 seconds.

This means one of two things. Spoil can directly spoil someone in an instant, or the timer can also decrease. If the timer can also decrease, it continues down that rabbit hole of psychological interference.

And at that point, I would say the answer is hope. Hope that whoever stuffed the kids in the underground will return to save them. Or a lack of hope that as you see the people around you start to spoil, that you'll spoil as well. Or, hope that you got away from the zombie apocalypse, but then the hopelessness of that timer continuing to count down no matter how far away you flee.

Now, I can sit here and brag that I made some crazy theory, but I'd be pretty shocked if it comes out to be true. There's quite a few assumptions in this crazy rambling, and just as many black boxes to deal with. But, at the end of it, I think it's a pretty good attempt at explaining why timers can change.

Anyways, one last bit! The Rule vessels, as Spoil explains it.

Claiming that Negators are Rule vessels puts them in very interesting territory. My first question to this idea is, how can a rule vessel and a UMA exist at the same time? We have Unburn the negator, but also Burn the UMA. Are they symbiotic? But then, wouldn't that be the case for any negator out there? Could Andy's nature as the undead vessel be the root cause of the potential for a split personality?

I don't think it likely, but Unburn and Burn is the only example of both a Negator and UMA existing in this world at the same time, so I really want to see how that works, as it entirely shapes the concept of rules and negators.

Because you'd think that a rule must exist for a negator to exist, but that would imply the existence of a great many more UMAs that we as readers do not know about. It could be that they're locked up and in containment with Union, or that they're pacifists or non-sentient rules, but as far as we know, any UMAs that Union has subjugated or neutralized have been hostile ones towards humans (as they are expected to be, given their role), and there are countless UMAs that exist where we don't have any awareness or understanding of the existence of their Negator. So, not a whole lot to add to this idea (mostly because I already used all my brain power on the other theory), other than the fact that I really need to see what goes on with Unburn and Burn.

So yeah, a whole hell of a lot of writing, but overall a really great episode. I could spend all day picking apart this series, really.

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It's likely that for the first few loops after sex and gender getting added as rules, they weren't master rules, so it's likely that Victor and Juiz had random genders for the first however many loops of gender before it eventually became a master rule and they settled in their current ones

[derseprinceoftbd]

Oh, also, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen.

[wickedsick]

We're finally doing it, huh?

The true Unjustice is that we only get two panels of the Fu Manchu 😢

Bunny has finally done... A single thing.

Hell yeah, here we- wait.

Zoom.

Zoom further.

Too far. Back up a bit.

CLOTHY JUNIORS?

Oh my god they've got little pacifiers...

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I can hear this conversation in my head so easily. Glad Tozuka's using this arc to show off pre-100 vicjuiz

Not silver??

Also Fuuko princess carrying Julia is cute

Fuuko's face. I need an emote of that.

Julia is insane in the best way

Shen and Mui casually taking out Platinum

Sean I swear to god

Oh she's a sabre fencer

Pack it up, we don't need this one, she's a lost cause.

Recognition of the self through the other (derogatory)

The sabre was holding her back. Now she can get a foil and do actual good fencing

TACTICAL THIGH SLAP

How did they find pants strong enough to contain Shen's legs

I can show you the woooorld~

First stop, Top's mom's house

[derseprinceoftbd]

Obsessed with the idea of "the two of them were born without gender, when they discovered it one chose male and one chose female", Canon or not.

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All of these vignettes are so adorable

Okay, this is a mistranslation. This is such an egregious mistranslation.

Sex and Gender did not exist in the first world. We know this, because Juiz said as much.

This pisses me off.

Aw...

LONG TIME NO SEE, MISTER V!

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Are they going to beat him with the concept of the Geneva Convention

"stop monologuing, shithead"

MISTER V IS ON HIS WAY BACK!

[wickedsick]

Uh... Soul? Did you guys forget about Soul? He's still there, right?

And Kururu doesn't make it to the finale, either.

"I expect nothing, and I'm still let down."

Phase Three, Phase Three, Phase Three...

Forgot the second half of the title, idiot!

Me when I lie. Me when I fib. Me when I spread falsehoods.

"wait, we're main characters?"

"Not on your life."

HAHAHAHAHAAAA GET FUCKED

GO PHASE THREE YOU FUCKING IDIOT