#wc cinders

[saffronscales]

butch lesbian(orange flag)cinders or lesbian palebird?:3

[warrior-cats-rewritten]

Sol

You just had your birthday!

Sol is a HUGE tortoiseshell tom with thick fur around his neck like a mane, long tufted ears, a long tail with fluff on the tip like a lion's, and brilliant amber eyes.

Sol, originally known as Harry, was born near a junkyard to Cinders and Whispers. Whispers hated his mate, who only ever asked him to hunt for her and their oopsie litter. He belittled her constantly, and resented his children. They had a massive fight one day, he never had a new mate, or kits. When he left, he walked across a very busy road....

Cinders was left full of grief. She still loved her mate, despite everything he put her and her kids through. After a major depressive spell, she gathered up her children, and took them all towards the nearest human settlement, meowing at doors, begging an Upwalker to let her and her children in.

Finally, a woman opened her door, and immediately let the tiny family inside. All together. Cinders's old name was Flame, and she is a sunshine torbie with bright golden colors and a white mark on her head. At least, before things got bad. Her coat has dulled, and living alone with her kits for a while left her murky and stained. She looked more gray than anything, hence the woman renaming her Cinders. Cinders took to the name immediately, even after her pelt began to brighten again. Her kits are given names as well; Harry, Sunny, Foggy and Ivy. 

Harry became lazy, and whiny, and spoiled from their new owner. He became bossy with his siblings, and when they stopped wanting to take it, Harry cried to his mother that they were bullying him.

Eventually, Cinders catches him snapping at one of them, swiping at his sister Ivy and connecting his claws with his meek sister's muzzle. Cinders snapped at Harry, and chased him out...

Harry would soon find himself on Skyclan's borders, where he would cause problems with Leafstar and Billystorm's children, making an already bad situation much worse.

Leafstar finds out about him more through his mother, and finds just how dangerous he can be. She boots him out of Skyclan for it, permanently.

He wanders through the land, forcing others to occasionally catch food for him, coasting on the kindness of Twolegs. He wanders into White Hart Woods, or rather, what is left of it. A storm drives Harry into an old cave system, where, at its deepest point, lies an ancient chamber with the broken remains of The Moonstone. It calls to Harry, and, in what will be a horrible turn of events for the Clans, he finds himself resting on the Shattered Moonstone.

I cannot reiterate enough, readers, that you Should Not Do That.

His head is filled with knowledge, things he shouldn't know. Blackstar's Trial and his leadership ceremonies, and how to charm him. Firestar's sacred Prophecy about his Kin, and who their parents are. He knows that Russetfur will be mauled by a Windclan cat and that the Moon will cover the Sun. Harry has been overexposed to a much more raw, archaic place than any Starclan spirit can get to.

He had found The Sky Beyond The Stars.

When he wakes up, he renames himself Sol, after an old, dead god that has now been reborn. And he knows about The Moonpool, too. It's like a beacon to him. He heads down, bullying groups he comes across like Jingo and her friends, but when he reaches Thunderclan territory and tries to climb a tree, he falls... There's a horrible crunch, and Sol falls limp for just a moment...

His father Whispers has been haunting him, and he decides to finally put that spirit to use.

Sol gets up, shakes himself off, and feels just a little lighter before continuing his walk, deciding to stay off of trees. Eventually, he hears a small group of young cats nearby...

He recognizes Hollypaw, Jaypaw and Lionpaw. He is taken to camp, where he makes his infamous prediction. Squilf is nearly killed in the battle against Windclan, and, to be fair, it looks like Sol caused the whole thing. He had forgotten about the WindThunder battle, genuinely.

Firestar exiles him, his heart broken over his Terribly injured daughter, along with his friendship with Onestar having shattered. Russetfur was mauled, his grandson Jaypaw was nearly killed, and Blackstar is almost definitely going to lose a life over this.

Not to mention Lionpaw has just killed someone.

So... Yeah. Bye Sol. Go find a new home.

And Sol does. He knew that Blackstar would be vulnerable. He charms him, speaks to him in that new hypnotic way he has learned to do, like staring at a small mirage created by the sun's heat on the road.

He had been able to get Russetfur out of her comatose state, he said exactly what Blackstar had wanted to hear in a way he knew would get to him...

It is to let Sol help him. Guide him. When was the last time Starclan spoke to you? Gee, it's been a while. If they don't trust you anymore, what's the point of trusting them? Your deputy has been mauled by a Windclan cat who has seen no punishment over it... Seems despite your trials and tribulations... Starclan has abandoned you.

Perhaps it's time to put your faith in a new god.

The next stage is so fast, Lionblaze desperately works with the young new Shadowclan warriors, Owlclaw and Redwillow, to create a fake sign, and while it becomes real, Jay is off fighting with Sol. But now, Jay's got some warrior skills under his belt.

He is about to seriously wound Sol, when the slippery tom speaks once more.

"You look so much like your father. Well, your real one, anyway."

The shock of that statement is too much, and when Jayfeather tries to gauge how Sol is feeling (because, well... He could be full of crap) his mind is filled with the Sun god's horrible blinding light, physically paining him that the boy crumples like tissue.

"Interesting power you've got there. Mine came from the same place. There's another Sky out there. Beyond Starclan. There is more out there than you can imagine. Spirits, places, power... Did you know you I've died before?"

Poor Jay is left dumbstruck as Sol darts away, not to be seen again until OOTS.

From there, he meets a different fate. Hollyleaf's mind has changed about the code. It's important, sure, but also stupid in places. And it doesn’t account for this.

She kills him, the two fighting in a dusty clearing outside of Thunderclan land, his head smashed onto a stone. She gives him a burial, as a kind thing to do for a body no longer housing a soul. 

The Sun God has had its vessel destroyed, and will have to seek out a new one.

Sol enters the Dark Forest. Most cats dislike him, but he doesn't involve himself with Tigerstar's plans. He keeps to himself in a corrupted version of the dump/Skyclan's camp, an amalgamation fused together horribly that he calls his Sun Kingdom. It randomly grows dark, and cold, and laughter is heard from countless cats until it suddenly becomes blindingly bright, then back to normal. The whole thing is sun bleached and the place stinks of wet cardboard box.

A king sits alone upon his cold, sun bleached throne, decreeing his royalty to a crowd that doesn't exist, and only laughs.

The Sun's Rage is brewing.

[sublimedragontragedy]

CINDERS

"What did I do to deserve such rotten treatment? Why do things like this always happen to me?"

[cheesecakedrawz]

[murkshade]

silly alert silly alert!!! watch out!!

[artaintfart]

Hollyleaf cinderheart baby? Prophecy baby?

OOIUUHHGHHHHHH MY FAV SHIP ALERT

[stoopidassjamesfranco]

I don't think Swiftpaw was retconned as Frostfur's kit, as he's seen sleeping with Goldenflower in that scene where Firepaw meet Princess again

I just think they said Frostfur's kits as whole for convenience

[lupiine]

[sprout-battlecats]

cinderpelt

[sweetriverstyx]

cinders v her design from 2022 omgggg

[thistledown-au-warriors]

did the challenge, with a Thistledown twist!

can't separate the siblings though

[talonpaw]

@lockandkeyhyena

i like her canon design… i adore when james l. barry gives the kitties eyeliner and mascara

[lockandkeyhyena]

genuine question whats ur thoughts on cinders neglecting her kits a bit. like i never really see that brought up

she didn’t really though, did she? if you reread the comic (which i have fully on hand because i love her) she just… doesn’t. she constantly tries to find food and shelter for them, she tells them stories to keep them entertained.

the only time its even implied she neglected her kits was when her mate left her and she sunk into a deep depressive episode where she didn’t move at all for a couple of days. so presumably she couldn’t find food for them. and idk, im not gonna blame her for neglecting her kits for a few days while she was dealing with mental illness.

and ultimately, she decided she couldn’t take care of her kits and left them where she knew they would be safe.

here are her words:

“be nice to the housefolk, and they’ll look after you.”

“because i can’t.”

which is fucking heartbreaking. she didn’t have the skills to hunt and look after her kits, and she didn’t have the mental energy either. she probably just found someplace to lay down and die after that.

but like, i like her because shes not a great mom, she snaps at her kits and leaves them without so much as saying goodbye, shes angry and doesn’t like her kits eating twoleg food.

idk. i kinda like that shes imperfect. you rarely see bad mums painted with a sympathetic brush- and honestly? if you read into it a bit, there is genuine sympathy for cinders in the text. its very harsh on her but it shows her doing good things, it shows her depression. i think at the very least the text isn’t biased to either sol or cinders’ side of the story, which is interesting because sol could have made up whatever shit he wanted and we would be none the wiser.

oh jesus i went on for way too long there. you just activated my ‘talk about cinders’ mode and i lit up lol. feel free to send in more asks about her, i adore her.

[exocynraku]

maybe a Mapleshade and Cinders (sol's mum) hypokit? i couldn't see them in the hypokit doc but if they are already on there then i apologize

tusk

[shallowbreeze]

Cinders

Cinders is a tortoiseshell-and-white she-cat with green eyes

Sol's mom

[eggfeather]

cinders