#wof thoughts

[resident-wof-expert]

Unsorted WOF thoughts part 262:

Can you imagine if one of the last things your mother ever told you was that you were her personal choice to inherit the crown?

And then you realize just how little anyone else in the entire kingdom believes in you?

This is on top of how horrible an experience it is to lose your mother. On top of the attempted genocide by way of biological warfare that your kingdom just survived.

And then suddenly, an entire race of unknown dragons show up who turn out to be related to the woman who clearly had connections to the guy who caused that plague. And now you have to choose between housing them and turning them away.

If I were Snowfall, I think I might just go insane as well.

[scrollwyrm]

Some Headcanons about Pantala because AAAASNMSKAKAMA

The mountain range of Pantala is said to be cursed because of the mysterious ruins there, which Wasp destroyed all evidence of. This is because they held the BeetleWing palace. It is generally avoided because of this and because of the extremely harsh conditions.

SilkWings can be (almost) cleanly separated into the more moth-like SilkWings (thicker build, floofier, slightly duller scales, larger wings, but smaller overall) and more butterfly-like SilkWings (slimmer, longer antennae, less flexible wings, curled claws, MUCH flashier colours).

HiveWings aren’t all descended from ClearSight: when ClearSight saved everyone, BeetleWings started trying to have dragonets with more black scales as a tribute to her. The only HiveWings really descended from ClearSight are the royal family: the idea that all HiveWings are her family is (VERY) old propaganda to make HiveWings seem superior.

LeafWings have a weaker version of RainWing photosynthesis.

[the-reel-albacat]

Dragon beauty standards?

so, I’ve been thinking about Anna of cleaves (idk how to spell it) and how Henry said she didn’t look like her portrait and stuff, and then I started thinking what would make her *ugly* to Henry aaannnddd now I’m here. So what would be considered unattractive/attractive to WoF dragons, because we’ve had descriptions of dragons being pretty, like winter, various rainwings, and (maybe it’s me being biased) I think scarlet? But what makes them different to all the other dragons.

first thing to consider, beauty standards are usually based on what we consider healthy, in the past being more plump was the best because it meant that you were wealthy and had plenty of food. In modern times, people consider being skinny as healthy, which to a certain degree it can be. But dragons? What is healthy for them, anyway I’ll think about this. If anyone has ideas please share!

[onlystupidity]

Nightwings and Seawings probably look crazy at night.

Ok, so nightwings and seawings are the only tribes that are actually confirmed to see in the dark. (I think, I haven't read the books in like 2 or 3 years) So I kinda just assume that the rest of the tribes can't see in the dark very well, much like humans. So I'd bet if you had a light source with you at night and shined it just right by accident at either 2 tribes.

(Drawings of Turtle I did just for this thought.)

Ok, that's all I had to say, good bye.

[dragon-in-a-stew]

so it’s obvious that the hybrid prince is mulberry right

[loyle-2-my-capo]

I need some more wof lore. Lemme hear about y’all’s theories, headcannons, etc, especially if it’s about dragon culture or anatomy.

[fbc-group]

Sometimes i wonder if pyrite could've been a completely different dragon.

I mean this, not in the sense of "OuHo- WhAt iF iT wAs WiNtEr" No, i mean what if pyrite could've been split entirely from hailstorm. Or even Ruby from Tourmaline? A lot of the dragons who were enchanted to be another dragon seemed like they had their own memories. Ruby chose to keep those memories, as well as the appearance, which i find is a good contrast to hailstorm. Hailstorm got his memories back, yes, but at this same time, Pyrite also existed, having a whole life behind that. When winter tried on the "Pyrite change necklace" pyrite KEPT those memories. By the way Queen Scarlet had the necklace before hand, it makes me wonder how may dragons were turned to this dragon, "Pyrite". Most likely not many of course, but i still think about it watch time i hear or see pyrites name. How many memories did she have before (if I'm remembering this right) it got destroyed. Imagine waking up at one point and being a different dragon, with so many more memories than what you had flashing back to you. I feel like Pyrites situation is HORRIFYING, as you fail to believe who you are as a person, having sudden blanks, and having distressed people around you whenever you put on something new. and to add onto that, an OBSESSION with someone who abuses and neglects you. With this thought, i wonder if pyrite could've had a chance to be her own separate dragon. ANYWAYS- I could make a WHOLE video essay on this, most likely with more research soooo :p also, SUPER SUPER EXITED FOR THE NEXT BOOK OMMLLLLL-

[wingsoffiretings]

gill is depicted as light green in TDP but what if that’s due to the lack of water. when humans are very sickly they tend to get pale. i bet that happened to gill too. i imagine his natural scales were more close to that of auklets. just a thought.

[namelesscat07]

So, I had this discussion on Reddit a while ago, but it just resurfaced in my brain...

How do you think sneezing looks like for the different wof tribes?

Ok, this might be a weird question, but hear me out. This started with Rainwings, if they change color depending on their emotions or when they are sick, would they turn into a disco ball, would they turn a random color/-s or would they flash a specific color while sneezing? I personally like to think they turn a random color when sneezing so if they sneeze a lot they are like an RGB light

Then the convo moved on to seawings

I thought that Rainwings might be like a flash of light, but that wouldn't make sense, they just change color. BUT someone reminded me that seawings light up, so now it's my head canon that seawings light up (brightness differs from dragon to dragon) when sneezing. Just a BIG flash of light, be sure to cover your eyes if you have a seawing friend who's about to sneeze!

And when this resurfaced I thought about if other tribes might have something special when sneezing as well and I think Icewings would sneeze snow. Hear me out, if they can breathe Frost breath they can sneeze snow

Any ideas for the other tribes? Or any other ideas for the tribes mentioned?

[aposematic-jessica]

Rereading wings of fire and like. I forgot how violent it is. I guess you always forget how violent the stuff you read as a kid is. Kestrel bites and hits and hurts the dragonets, and they all just. Have to take it. They know that neither of the other guardians will stop her or help them. They don’t try to teach any of them about their cultures, they don’t try to help them learn to make good decisions. I mean, what do they need to learn to fight for? I think Kestrel just wanted to hurt them, honestly.

And then Clay and the other kids watch their foster father be brutally murdered in front of them by the second new adult they’ve met in their lives ever. And that’s AFTER finding out that the FIRST new adult they’ve ever met has instructed their only guardians and parents up to that point to kill one of their adopted siblings. And Clay has to listen to his adoptive mother agree to kill his sister! And he has to tell her and the rest of their siblings that, and she just… accepts it! I think we gloss over how easily Glory accepts that her foster mother is planning to kill her in her sleep that very night.

The narration describes the sound of Dune’s corpse on the ground. Clay watches his guardian, one of the only three adults he knows, die in front of him, despite his best efforts. Glory watches one of her abusers be murdered in front of him, and then she’s taken captive and used as living decor by the murderer! I think it’s also pertinent to mention that the closest thing any of them have to a therapist is one of their other sisters, whom they unilaterally treat as being generally too dumb and friendly to be of any real help.

Of course they’re all relatively well adjusted and most untraumatized because this is a children’s book that I personally was introduced to via a scholastic book fair. We don’t really have space for the kind of cptsd responses that these kids absolutely would have. They all pull through more or less evenly rewarded by the narrative. Clay gets to meet his sibs and has his place in his adopted family reaffirmed; Tsunami gets a sense of personal and cultural identity kind of thrust onto her; Glory gets to say “fuck you all” to everyone who was ever mean to her; Starflight gets a gf; Sunny finds her family and becomes a princess. Tbh the boys are the ones who lose out the most, Glory Tsunami and Sunny all become royalty. Poor Starflight. But hey, your adoptive sister is now technically your queen, so yay? Sorry Clay, don’t think Queen Moorhen will be inviting you to family dinner.

I would love to see some theories or fic that touch on what a more realistic portrayal of their symptoms and healing might look like. I’m not educated enough to make any guesses as to what kind of psychological scars being raised in a cave as a chosen one might leave.

[resident-wof-expert]

Unsorted WOF thoughts part 263:

The main antagonist of each book.

The Dragonet Prophecy: Scarlet.

The Lost Heir: Whirlpool.

The Hidden Kingdom: Magnificent.

The Dark Secret: Morrowseer.

The Brightest Night: Blister.

Moon Rising: Arguably nobody, possibly Icicle or Scarlet.

Winter Turning: Winter's parents???

Escaping Peril: Scarlet again.

Talons of Power: Darkstalker.

Darkness of Dragons: Darkstalker.

The Lost Continent: Wasp.

The Hive Queen: Wasp.

The Poison Jungle: Wasp.

The Dangerous Gift: Wasp?

The Flames of Hope: Some random human we've literally never heard of.

[scrollwyrm]

Some more Pantala Headcanons because I’m insane about arc 3

HiveWing royalty is fed a jelly-like substance in the same way a future queen bee would be, giving them distinct features such as a third pair of legs, a pair of antennae, compound eyes, and usually a larger stinger.

SilkWings are not herbivorous. They are, in the vast majority, VEGETARIAN (not the same), however they, like butterflies, can theoretically drink and subsist on blood.

Tired so that’s all for now but I’ll be back :)

[talewind-arts]

Hi I'm Aromantic and struggle to comprehend subtle and complex romances. So here's what I like about the simple, squishy, sappy, DoD romances!

-Clay/Peril

Clay grew up being told he was a monster, just like Peril. He sees a part of himself he has seen nowhere else in her and believes deeply that she is good, just as he believes he and everyone else is good.

Meanwhile Peril is 2 inches from his face staring and blushing and bubbling over the one dragon who was sincerely, openly, and unabashedly kind and genuine in a way nobody else could. Also he is the first person to be able to touch her, literally and figuratively and it's fucking hilarious any time the DoD shows they all know and he doesn't.

-Tsunami/Riptide

Two people whose lives have been out of their control since forever. They understand each other in ways only people who have had to learn how to flail around in the dark can.

Plus Riptide being in the Talons of Peace and Tsunami being royalty/the seawing egg is so juicy. Tsunami is, to no fault of her own, the cataclysm for everything about Riptide's life. Riptide is a member of the organization that Tsunami hates more than anyone, far more than the other at best resentful DoD. Their empathy and crushes for one another must be held at bay. Both are extremely loyal and have their own duties, and at the same time care too much for the other to enact those duties in a way that would directly bring harm.

It's a perfect display of the complex morals of Tsunami's character/book.

-Glory/Deathbringer

(I'm in the camp that scavenger logic does not apply to dragon age cause I love these two and its fiction, I do not condone pedophilia nor do I think it applies here. If you disagree that's totally OK, but if you feel the need to debate, I'd honestly rather it be about the actual psychology of the relationships so that I may learn more about this rather alien concept)

It's so fucking cool that after Glory's parental figures tried to kill her, she meets an assassin meant to do the same, who even though it is his job, actively and vocally tries not to kill her. AND THEN he becomes her bodyguard, making sure she never gets killed. It's SO GOOD.

Anyhow much like Glory, Deathbringer grew up an outsider. He is a healthy, continent bound, silly Nightwing, as unheard of as a fierce, serious, sarcastic Rainwing. Deathbringer says it himself, Glory fascinates him, I think he sees himself in her a lot, which is a uniquely new feeling for someone who broke free of the Nightwing’s trademark ‘all for the plan, none for the self’ mentality. At the other end, Glory's life is/was very unstable, and she constantly grapples with self worth and feeling like she doesn't belong. Having someone who constantly gives her affirmations (clearly crushes on/is attracted to her, finds her deeply funny and interesting, believes strongly in her choices) is so important for her. She needs someone who will worship the ground she walks on just as much as Deathbringer needs someone who can step on him who knows what it's like to be on the outside looking in.

-Starflight/Fatespeaker

(FYI I haven't done much thinking on these two yet, this may be subject to change)

All Fatespeaker ever wanted was friends. Heck, she actively lies to herself that she has friends in the false dragonets, who instead take any chance they get to berate and annoy her. Like all the false dragonets, Fatespeaker is a deliciously fascinating warping of Starflight. Both groups poke fun at their annoying Nightwing nerds, but only the DoD care enough to prompt Starflight to infodump, and they only tease him because they know he could dish it back. This was the life Fatespeaker thought she led, so of course Starflight piqued her interest. He is everything she wants to be.

Meanwhile, Starflight as we all know is totally into bubbly and hopeful personalities. In fact, his book is entirely started by him having some of that hope himself. Fatespeaker is hopefulness to the MAX. Starflight needs to be around her, to ground himself with that hope and kindness and reckless abandon, to keep his mind from racing. Just as Fatespeaker needs to learn what healthy relationships are from Starflight and those around him. They ground each other in ways they wish others could, in ways they have been searching for their whole lives, and even if they don't end up together (They will cause it's a sappy book but I headcanon it going either way)

So those are my thoughts. Please share your own if you have them, and keep in mind I'm Aromantic so if I missed any subtext…woops! Maybe add it onto this post so I can learn? Thanks for reading!

[yourelocaltransdude]

IF AND ICEWING SHOT ICE BREATH DOWN PERILS THROAT WOULD IT KILL HER, NOT AFFECT HER, OR WOULD IT MAKE HER SCALES NORMAL?

[dragon-in-a-stew]

do we think Jade Mountain Academy has any breaks? Do they have a month or two long break to visit family? When do they graduate?

Does anyone else want a winglet book with what classes there are and how often winglets collaborate, who teaches what, when do they get up, do they have detention and is there a "principal's office?"

[the-leafiest-leafwing]

since queen coral always forgets her sons’ names, it’s probably reasonable to assume she doesn’t name them, but do we think it was gill or someone else in the court who is appointed to take care of them? or did they even pick their own names when they got old enough? having a lot of thoughts about the seawing princes rn like how neglectful WAS coral really, did she take care of her sons at all and did she even bother to have other dragons looking after them and teaching them? probably yes, because they’re royalty and all, but i wonder what their lives are like. also does constantly popping out eggs like that have any physical effect on coral? how does procreation even work in wings of fire