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#pmd2#my art#grovyle#dusknoir#pokemon mystery dungeon#tempted to tag this as ship lmao what is their relationship if not the confrontation of irreconcilable ideals in a doomed world#theyre both surviving for only one reason#to fulfill their clashing objectives no matter the cost#and because of this their lives are inextricably intertwined#its no wonder it was grovyle who managed to get dusknoir to change loyalties and objectives man who else could have gotten through to him#they match each other's freak fr#pmd eos#pmd grovyle#pmd dusknoir#ig i wont tag it since its not really accurate here but trust me its canon chunsoft told me /j#edit actually no im gonna tag it#actaeonshipping#duskvyle#this is also ship content if youre a real shipper
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Willy was stopping time to go to babe's house and look at charlie just as charlie was seeing visions of willy inside babe's house, staring down at him.
Scary as fuck.
#pit babe 2#pit babe the series 2#pit babe 2 the series#pit babe season 2#that's a horror movie right there#no wonder charlie fainted#i would to if i were in charlie's position#it's like they met eo but in the 4th dimension
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This is exactly how I remember Darkrai's fight at Dark Crater in PMD: Explorers.
(Bless the Snapcube fan-dub)
#I had so much fun animating this.#Uaargh the brainrot is not stopping#my art#my stuff#tagas friend spoiler#magmortar#darkrai#pmd darkrai#chimchar#totodile#pmd eos#pmd#pmd2#pokemon mystery dungeon#pokemon#I must say I did have the desire to add dusknoir and grovyle laughing in the background but ugh i did go for one of the Darkrai crew becaus#the other two simply would have not fit for this scene :(#But I still have some future trio doodles lying around so I want to post those soon as well but in a batch which isn't completely done#anyways hope you have a wonderful rest of the day :D!#should I tag this as animation?#ugh why not#animation#animatic#sorry cresselia did not make it in here...#actually i really wanna draw her more
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Yeah, my Dusknoir uses little nicknames for his children. Little Spark for Fenja and Little Flame for Blaze, because I think it's cute.
@fujii-draws @bexdrey
#Gosh golly gee#I sure wonder if B and F could possibly relate to being thrown in prison#hmmmm#my artwork#digitalart#artists on tumblr#Pmd#pmd eos#pmd explorers#pmd2#pokemon mystery dungeon#pokemon fandom#pokemon#pokeblr#Dusknoir#charmander#Pikachu#Partner#hero#dadnoir#Angst#angst with a happy ending
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When life doesn't come with a manual, it comes with a momma bear by Shelly Lynn Hachey O Via Flickr: Momma teaching life skills to her young bear cub (you can see by the dirt on their noses they had been digging for food).
#animal#Canon#look#mammal#nature#outdoors#watch#wild#wildlife#brown bear#Grizzly bear#bear#bears#two#Mother Nature#mother#Alaska#eos#powerful#RF#RF400#wonderful#view#water#together#youthful#youth#furry#paws#claws
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one of the things that fascinate me about thawne: yes, he CAN be normal with kids! surprisingly normal!



((not at all times, though. his mental illness still spills through and as usual he, in trying to manipulate or hurt others, spits out at them the exact stuff that would hurt him (or have in his childhood/barry's rejection interpretation) the most in the first place lmao))

but at the same time. his like second instinct when doing his bullshit is FUCK THEM (as) KIDS





(and, well. whatever this classifies as)

#whats wrong with him. seriously. he loves picking fights with literal children So Much#AND NONE OF THEM WITH WALLY ON THE MATTER OF BEING THE BIGGEST FLASH FAN. HOW DID THAT NEVER HAPPEN#about the middle page. honestly i DIDNT remember he is a Jerk in that way too until i checked his interactions with bart for this post#this man officially should not be allowed near children as a mentor.#just straight up drops ALL his insecurities on a poor kid in trying to make him feel ashamed. NO breaking the abuse cycle for this bad boy#the only thing he doesnt say is the direct 'you are a disappointment' altho the message is still the same 💀💀💀💀💀💀#AND I BET HES HELLA PROUD OF THAT. I MEAN CONSIDERING THIS FACT IG HE DOES TRY TO BE BETTER THAN HIS PARENTS. SOMEWHAT.#and omg he formulates his point like in problem based learning (leading the child to making the correct conclusion themselves)#im dying. professor to the fucking core.#and the way he feels the need to bring up flash facts in his appeal?? EO YOURE SO HOPELESS. THIS IS 100% HOW BART SAW HIM THROUGH#and god knows what he told thad promising to get him out of the speed force if he fought barry there and whether he was going to fulfill it#and do you even IMAGINE how FUCKED barry's mental condition would be growing up if thawne fulfilled his button threat#and i really REALLY wonder about the tornado twins and their relationship with 'uncle eobard' but that will be a separate post#he doesnt know any other way tho. and he might be actually mad at bart for not supporting his every action as The Flash#like. he tries to play family but the second they question he just goes WHATEVER. I DONT NEED IT. FLASH OF MY VISION RUNS ALONE#his problem is that he just wants attention. he doesnt see family/heroing for what 'its really about' or downsides that may come with them#everything is so idealized in his head. and the moment he faces reality with its complications the concept immediately gets antagonized.#and then he reconsiders and changes the conditions but fails each time never realizing the problem is his mindset and not everything else#black white at its finest yall#and man. RELATABLE.#also WHY is he standing LIKE A STATUE when appearing in front of bart????😭😭😭😭#poor museum rat has no idea what heroes in real life stand like#eobard thawne#professor zoom#reverse flash#the reverse flash#bart allen#the flash#dc
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partner calls out grovyle over that teeny tiny detail he forgot to explain about the plan to save the planet.
#pmd2#my art#grovyle#pmd partner#pokemon mystery dungeon#darkrai#pmd grovyle#pmd darkrai#pmd eos#im sorry i cant let go of grovyle hiding that piece of info#i just think the game is wonderful for subverting expectations (starter is evil-ghost is good)#un-subverting expectations (starter is actually good-ghost is twist villain)#only to attempt to subvert them again at the very end (starter willingly hid vital [ha] information-ghost is only fighting to survive)#thank you pmd for making duskvyle morally gray#also darkrai is there ig
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this ship is growing on me a lot more than I expected it would. help
#jcu#julien bam (character)#mann im mond#eos#ju/eos#me doing art#hello non germans#in case youre wondering what this is#dont ask#just.. uh#join the shipping cult#/nf#itd be funny
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Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4 / Part 5 / SE5 (you are here)
I do in fact regularly gaslight my friends for their own good.
I can't have them suspecting the truth after all. (aka continuation of @the-cr0w 's playthrough)
#FEELING NERVOUS? HAVING YOUR BACK EXPOSED TO ME? <- You have no clue how often I said that during the playthrough.......................#There exists a follow up doodle for the 'I won't call him daddy' drawn by crow#Also seeing future trio together I remembered something. There is this one pmd fanfic I found in the depths of deviantart and I was so#shocked when the author introduced a sceptile elder that turns out to be the grovyle from the game but then he mentions that he's married#to Celebi but Dusknoir is only a good old friend. PULL HIM IN THE RELATIONSHIP!!! That man's suffering!!#but that fanfic is also really old I think it was finished 2017 but I greatly enjoyed it. About what you'd expect from a fanfic that starte#in like 2012? Ah yeah looked it up. Author said 2012. Wonder what they're doing now... They did create a really cool adventure...#They didn't post anything since 2017. Maybe I'll write a sweet comment and look if they might reply.#pokemon#pmd#grovyle#dusknoir#celebi#future trio#pmd2#pmd eos#pmd explorers#darkrai#<- you know I can't do anything without him. Me about to lie to crow to bring up MY FAVOURITE CHARACT- I will shut up now.#oshawott#shinx#primal dialga#dialga#my art#my stuff#pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky#dusknoir x grovyle mostly but trust me celebi is in it to.#professor e gadd#luigi's mansion#never thought I'd tag luigi's mansion and pmd... how did you land here e gadd. why did dusknoir say that.
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pr so good even their gfs joined it
#lmao#i wonder how they*actually* feel about it?#yes im good with the girl of my boyfriend's teammate#in which both of our boyfriends have a very charged homoerotic relationship with eo#but they're work buddies doing their PR too. so while they do their fruity stuff we hang out and boost each other on instagram#and this united us#rebecca donaldson#alexandra saint mleux
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Thinking about how these two met. Get adopted, idiot.
More human!Echo.
#adopted as in “you are my sibling now; no take-backsies”#I just love the idea of Echo seeing this deranged little gecko and being like “Get away from me” and Treecko being like “Make me”#Grovyle's stubbornness overpowering Echo's festering anger is the best okay#Him choosing to love Echo despite their flaws and Echo in turn becoming a better person through exposure#Learning what it means to have a purpose; to have someone you care for so deeply that you'd protect them over valuing your own life#Echo yearning to see the past and all of its wonders because Grovyle has nurtured this new love through stories and old texts#A yearning to see the sun; the real sun and feel it's warmth because it's Grovyle's dream but having the strangest feeling of guilt#A guilt she cannot understand because it's buried deep inside and clouded in amnesia and pain and regret#I am emotional okay#another art post so quickly? yes#I blame everyone that left me nice replies and tags on my last human!Echo post#thanks for encouraging me to make more content I love you guys#Will try to write up some lore soon to share!!!#echo/human#echo/umbreon#pmd ocs#pmd grovyle#pmd2#pmd eos#pmd explorers#explorers of sky#my art
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Wang isn't just a lover to Tian. He's not just his forced younger brother, his family, his bestfriend, or his first (and only) love. He's all of that and more. Way more. The way I read it, Wang seems like Tian's lifeline. He has only ever felt alive when he's with Wang. Pre- and post-Wang, he was just a human-looking robot.
Wang is Tian's person. The One. The only one.
#the on1y one#read the novel#their parents suck BIG TIME#how they stayed sane i wonder#thank god they have eo#thank god they found eo again
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Hey you know how it’s implied throughout the Pokémon franchise that despite there being multiple appearances of different celebi, they’re all supposed to be the same Pokémon who is living thousands of lives in thousands of eras simultaneously? And how celebi are extremely sensitive to temporal distortions and paradoxes, to the point of being able to see them as if they were physical objects in front of them?
I think it’s very nice and polite of the Celebi in Explorers of Sky to keep a lid on all that.
#Celebi is absolutely terrifying when you think about it and I am very glad she is on the good side#fun fact: if I say Celebi looks at something like she’s seeing double#or she squints like she can’t see something directly in front of her clearly#she’s staring at a temporal distortion!#in my AU she can constantly see every form Twig has taken#both that of a weary charmeleon#and that of a confused charmander#and that of a terrified human#they’re all there at all times#I wonder what she sees when she looks at Darkrai?#stuff by sofie#the present is a gift AU#pmd celebi#pmd2#pmd eos#pmd explorers#pmd sky#pmd#pokémon mystery dungeon#pmd oc
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#have been chatting trade szn witb eo and wondering what the residents of tumblr think#🚫 twitter sportsmen opinions needed#tumblr sportsppl only#anaheim ducks#trevor zegras#nhl
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I've recently seen again a post talking about the Sableye and Dusknoir's relationship so i'd like to put my two cents in the discussion, for I love screaming into the void about PMD. (this isnt meant to discourage any other interpretations btw this is just my take on theirs and Dusknoir's relationship, bc I think they're very fun characters and I am very glad the game actually gives these minions a bit of relevance in se5).
Tbh I don't buy that Dusknoir treats the Sableye nicely, at least not out of kindness. I don't think he's a tyrant or inexplicably mean, of course, and I think his minions ADORE him, but i also believe that doesn't mean he's nice to them, sth that i consider meaningful for their character arcs.
Throughout the entire game he's exclusively giving them orders, in se5 he concocts a plan that involves thrashing them MULTIPLE times (he's lucky Grovyle isn't one to try and kill enemies in battle ig), and the cherry on top is that the first time we see him being fully genuine he does this:
(yes, he is in turmoil in here, but there's not a single thing implying that 1. this is an unusual response towards the sablye, 2. dusknoir feels bad for it at some point or is surprised at himself, 3. this has any impact in the sableye at all. You can argue these reactions happen off screen and we don't see them, they don't happen bc they have pressing matters to attend to or they happen after they return to life, and that's perfectly valid, but i'm sticking with what the game shows us, here.)
I must say, though, the fact that the Sableye, despite having been almost mindless pokémon up to now, STAND UP TO AND ATTACK Primal Dialga for their boss and even try to look after him despite him ordering them to check on Grovyle and Celebi first is SO important to me. they are goons to the bone and they love that scheming ghost so much.
My own view is that Dusknoir is generally polite to them (you wouldn't randomly break your own revolver or weapon without any reason, would you?), but is quicker to get mean with them than with people he doesn't know or he is seeking to manipulate. He doesn't care about their behaviour as long as they get the job done, which is why I think the anime thing of the Sableye climbing onto his shoulder isn't that remarkable, rather it's a very cute moment, one that is showing how they've been working together for long and how their size difference affects their interactions, but it is not necessarily conveying an affectionate bond (this is a bit random, but it reminds me of Disney's Jafar with Iago lmao. throw your pet sableye at your enemies so they mock them and then return to your shoulder). Additionally, Dusknoir letting the Sableye onto his shoulder is probably as close as we are gonna get to a villain turning around in his chair while petting a cat in PMD lol.
[this isn't meant to be a one-to-one comparison, it's just a detail i find cute and shows that this gesture can have multiple interpretations, with none being the only right one]
Leaving that aside, I hesitate to claim Dusknoir trusts his Sableye as allies, as Grovyle makes a point in the main story of how the Sableye (your Sableye, he says, as if objectifying them; not friends, but tools, weapons at Dusknoir's disposal) are lacking compared to the way hero/partner/grovyle support one another (power of friendship and hidden information babyyyy). The Sableye are used to Dusknoir's way of doing things, though, I'm sure. They know what happens when he's displeased, after all.
I think, most of all, the Sableye are meant to look disposable: they are 6 identical pokémon that almost act like a hivemind, and we are not supposed to think at all about how we may hurt them in battle any more than we do with the angry Manectric pack or random dungeon pokémon. This, I believe, is why the game has them stand up against Dialga and gives them unique dialogue at the end of se5. They're meant to show their inner shine, just as Dusknoir managed to do. They suddenly gain an individuality they had never shown while they were working to maintain the dark future.
Where they abandoned Dusknoir in the Old Ruins, now Grovyle has motivated them to look for their dignity and fight for a better world, and that starts with protecting their leader from Primal Dialga's rampage, and supporting his new objective and allies in their quest to save the future. In their own small way, they've also grown as characters throughout SE5.
I believe that, overall, Dusknoir saw the Sableye as tools, but thanks to their growth and clear care for him, there's a possibility he might start to see them (and by extension other pokémon) in a more genuine, less pragmatic / objectifying way in the future. Now that Dusknoir has the chance to live a fulfilling life, he may learn to care for others without surrounding himself by so many walls. If anything, I think their future is quite bright. Not that the Sableye would mind if he still thrashed them around, though lol, they're clearly not bothered much by it (special episode 0 had a great depiction of the sableye imo, you can check that romhack if you haven't yet).
In conclusion, look at these little guys who adore their can-get-mean-but-is-mostly-polite boss and probably have a body count but now are good, they're so cute:
#tldr: i think dusknoir not being nice and them being cowards is what makes their se5 actions more significant. they both have an arc#this is all surface level analysis i know but thats how i read them#i didnt bother to talk about grov saying the sableye do 'all the dirty work' around the future bc i didnt know where to put it but. uh.#add that to the prepared execution room and i think these guys have killed people lmao#i must reiterate this isnt throwing shade to any headcanons this is just what i got from the game. people are free to have fun.#also. dusknoir in the middle of his se5 panic attack and existential crisis: get the fuck out of my way this is my moment#HE GETS OUT OF HIS CRISIS ANIMATION SO FAST TOO. HE REALLY SAYS 'not now sweaty. daddy's having some him time' and slaps them#so he can go back to his drama queen pose#hes so awesome. gay toxic uncle behavior#his nemesis is in agony the entire time while this happens. se5 is truly peak fiction#the height difference is so funny too#like no wonder dusknoir didnt have any issue trying to kill the mcs. the sableye are tinier than some starter options ewionfwojfewo#highly throwable imps they are#him beign a bit jerk and him letting the sableye climb him up to give him rocks like in the anime special are not mutually exclusive. to me#this is pokemon. these magic creatures constantly beat up each other#the sableye get climbing privileges if they are good boys and it is useful to give him what he's looking for. and also it's very cute#this was gonna be just a textpost but then it got long and i strted looking for game moments that seemed relevant to the sableye oops#i like to babble about this game and dusknoir especially#sableye#dusknoir#pmd2#'scribz isnt it cringe to write 500 words retelling the events of a children's game' look if 90% of eos video essays can do it then so can#this is the closest thing my lacking understanding can manage to a meta/analysis post ig
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