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I want Hong Lu to come out of Canto 8 a better person (someone who has recognized his own agency and asserts it).
I want Hong Lu to come out of Canto 8 a worse person (someone who asserts their agency in cruel and selfish ways as overcompensation).
Do you see the vision?
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Don Quixote (Announcer) is the source of all hope in this world. The vision of the future it presents is a utopia.
#limbus company#canto vii spoilers#no seriously it has totally sold me on the gremlin's new characterization#give me those intervallos i need them
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I really wasn't expecting the largest emotional beat of Canto VII to be that Don Quixote really loved her Dad. Like, I'm kinda choked up about it.
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The two kinds of Limbus Company fans are Meursault/Don Quixote fastball special believers and Ishmael/Don Quixote fastball special believers
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do you think multicrack faust has a massive rack because she gets intense body dysphoria when they're absent or is she just really into having huge boobs? like do you think she paid extra for them
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Every once in a while I get sad Greg had the first Canto because he is so absurdly hot had to share his screen time with introductory exposition. Give Gregor a serious Intervallo, I beg.
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Follow-up to my last post, where we are with each sinner rn. This is 100% accurate and I will not be taking notes.
spoilers up to canto 6.5.2
#limbus company#gonna bury this a bit in the tags but this is comedic exaggeration. tbh while i think ish does have less going on this directly mirrors aha#ahab is less "involved' than the other villains as far as main plot goes but makes herself important through charisma#ish is almost the opposite in that she's super grounded#a normal person to steady the ship#so to speak
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Do you think Ishmael is self-conscious about how she's surrounded by powerful and important people and her whole deal was just that she was gay and sad on a boat?
#limbus company#my girl is “thief who joined the party at level 4 and now has to fight god”-maxing so hard rn
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the casual transphobia in some (key word: some) dawntrail discourse makes me sad
i don't think saying "trans women will always sound mannish when trying to be intense and therefore can't have range in voiceacting as they have to restrain themselves" is anything but bald-faced bigotry
no i dont care that you were 'polite' about it
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Honestly just deleting my last post because they buffed Phillip Sinclair again. Now he enters EGO form at or above 40SP and only loses 20SP as a cost, so he's a whole lot more consistent in his coin flips out the gate and way less likely to instantly shift back because of a bad turn. In addition, his passive went from resonance to owned so he permanently (once requirements are met) has bonus coin power in EGO form and has access to it from the get go.
These are really good changes that brings him much more in line of what I would expect from a limited(-ish) Identity. I feel conflicted on the reason for the changes, apparently the KR side of the community was outspokenly disappointed. I can only hope it was just frustrations with the IDs performance and not abuse towards the devs.
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Imagining a mirror world where Sinclair manifests Phillip's EGO after Kromer kills his family instead of joining her. If that Sinclair were to meet the other SInclairs of the mirror... he would despise the One Who Shall Grip. That man didn't have it in him to run away or even to properly distort. He just gave in.
Likewise, NClair hates this person who actually overcame his sorrow and now looks at him with scorn and pity. Someone who rose with his sorrow, embracing a new path instead of meandering on road decided for him, a road that Nclair knows is wrong but will not diverge from.
Each reminds the other of their greatest failures, their worst impulses, their potential realized and unrealized.
#limbus company#project moon#all im saying is its actually somewhat poetic how im ditching nclair for my burn teams the second I get dawn office sinclair#god please be good#please be absolutely cracked
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btw, for the limbus fans that happen to read this kim ji-hoon can do the craziest shit for the upcoming walpurgis night event for the ruina fans
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Weird Question.
What does a good Limbus Company Tier List look like?
[Warning: Long]
Gacha games are, at least in part, games about optimizing limited resources. There is a daily stamina limit, and weeklies and dailies that you need to feed that stamina into. In turn, you receive an amount of rewards that need to be spent to acquire and upgrade units. Limited rewards. And you need so many just to upgrade one unit. Decisions need to made, resources allocated. You only have so much, you want to get and use the right stuff without wasting anything on someone you find out is trash 90 levels in. Right?
This is an aspect of Gacha that is often missed in discourse about pngs of anime waifus: the emotional and intellectual labor of investing into a unit, the constant worrying about if you are making the most optimal choices, and the satisfaction of planning well. How a lot of attachment to a character can stem not from their design or personality but just because they're all you had that countered this boss node and lord almighty they clutched out the win with 0.1% HP after you dumped all you had into raising them. I could talk about it all day, it' super interesting to me. But to refocus, the major consequence of this kind of game design are tier lists.
Tier lists will tell you, at a glance, what units are worth investing in and what's worth avoiding. Good tier lists will provide comprehensive explanations and guides for each unit to contextualize their placement. Bad tier lists won't. They can be the combined knowledge of an entire community for a game, they can also be an edict laid down without compassion or transparency. Again, absolutely interesting. And again, to refocus, Limbus doesn't really have one.
Ok, there are Limbus tier lists. Esgoo has great tier lists on which IDs and EGO you should prioritize when considering Uptie 4. Obviously those are his opinion, all Tier Lists are at the end of the day, but he has a whole hour of discussion covering the why's and hows of each category. There is a Prydwen tier list for units, but its rarely shown to new players in any of the PM communities I'm in and is instead largely chastised to my knowledge. I've seen Sinner tier lists, meme tier lists, so on and so forth. None of these are the Tier List.
Maybe its just a sign of the times, but I remember when Gachas had the Tier List. Community vetted, moderator approved, above any all all others. Offered freely to newcomers and watched feverishly by veterans after a new unit is released. Nowadays I feel like I rarely see them.
Limbus doesn't have the tier list. You may wonder if it even needs one and I think you'd have a point. Boiling an entire ID's value to a letter grade might seem unnecessary, especially as Limbus is a bit different as a Gacha. IDs are easy to get, and though the level cap continues to raise (in a way many others find alarming and I'm inclined to agree) it's still less than a week's effort to max one out. I've played games where it took a month of currency to get a single Unit useable. THere just isn't as much drive to worry about leveling the wrong things, investing incorrectly because basically anything works.
However.
There still are obvious differences in the strengths of each character ID. True, most if not all are "useable", but you're probably better off leveling Pequod Yi Sang than Seven Yi Sang. You are definitely better off leveling Pequod Ishmael than Sloshing Ishmael. Its fair to want a quick cheat sheet to communicate those ideas at a glance, with explanations for those who want to delve a little deeper.
But I ask again, what would it even look like?
By what categories and traits do we subdivide these IDs? How can you convey that W Ryoshu is a self sufficient DPS monster tahat requires no synergy to be good while Maid Ryoshu has AoE built into her kit as well as strong poise gen that also does good damage at a glance? Put one in an AoE group and the other in DPS? Is that truly accurate when part of attack weight is that it's great against Abnormalities, the most common type of one-on-one encounter?
I ask the question "what would it look like" because I truly don't know. Limbus is a complicated, evolving game. I don't think that makes it special or standout in any particular way, but for an example it could be that Seven IDs are top tier next event because of temporary buffs and that throws a whole tier list on its head. I don't know of many Gacha that do stuff like that.
That's kinda the end of the thought. The best I can come up with is a list consisting of three tiers: "great, good with the right team comp, and don't. Further explanation available upon request." That's not very helpful, is it?
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I desperately want more fanart of Erlcliff but not of him all clean and pretty. I want him fucked up. I want him crying. I want bloodshot eyes and uneven stubble, mud and filth all about him. I want hair damp with sweat and self loathing. I wan t his chest heaving and stomach hairy and his everything scarred and bloody. I want him miserable and angry and insane because that is why he's beautiful.
#canto vi spoilers#limbus company#project moon#clear all cathy#im straight i swear#i just like the sad man when he's sad
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Actual thoughts on Canto VI, the most convoluted Wuthering Heights Fix-it Fic of all time.
There's almost too much I want to say. So... bullet points random thoughts.
Distortion Heathcliff being over with so quickly was initially a little disappointing but on top of being a sick design, I think it both sets up how Distortion is firmly on the table and is a perfect representation of Heath's image of himself: a storm of anger and destruction that ends almost immediately but leaves so much pain in its wake. Sad he didn't manifest it as an Effloresced EGO, but maybe someday we'll get Berserk armor Heath wrapped in barbed wire.
Nelly being a traitor seemed pretty obvious, but I'm happy with her reasons. She just an employee at the end of the day, and the examination of the consequences of Mirror tech did a lot to explain how she could end up doing what she did. Also, Mirrors seem terrifying.
Heath and Cathy being a relationship I care about in current year was not on my bingo list but I'll take it. I feel like a resolution to their story is a long ways off but PM is actually big on happy endings so I want to believe he can get her back.
So the Golden Boughs are just fucking magic I guess. Literally containing the "power of possibilities" by which they mean "they grant fucking wishes like a god damn genie." I actually like this development, establishing all the ways this Sci-Fi setting is actually magic is cool.
Erlking Heath is... a lot. Entwinning him with Germanic myth is an interesting choice, I've seen some talk about how it specifically ties into Faust by way of Goethe. Better-read people than me will properly analyze that. He's the obvious candidate for a Heathcliff ID, yet how could such a thing be? Erlcliff has no reason to hunt when there's no Heath's killing no Cathy's because there are no Cathy's to kill. I'm sure they could come up with a reason, but he's also so integral to Canto VI's story is a way that even including him might be a spoiler? Maybe we see something like in FGO where voicelines and ID story are locked until you beat the correct story section.
Called it with the Guest Character, wasn't expecting Verglius. I hope this causes less people to ask for Color IDs so early, but I doubt it. Surprised they showed his EGO, but in doing so I think they've actually set a power ceiling to aspire to in gameplay terms, not just cutscene wins.
I'm sure there's more thoughts to share, but for now I'm looking forward to the new MD and the next event.
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Thought on the Bound King EGO now that Canto 6 is done.
Sitting and waiting, wrapped in bandages, made to heal. Waiting for the right time.
It's just so peak.
#limbus company#project moon#clear all cathy#also think about what that means for Outis and her long journey home#the quest to get !$%@$ will not be easy
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Last few part 3 predictions/thoughts:
Seriously wondering if, like many other gacha, we get a guest character unit. Don't know how I want it to go, there's a lot of possibilities: Heathcliff reconciling with his alt selves and embodying them, Heathcliff truly manifesting an EGO, Red Riding Hood Cathy (Ishmael?).
I'm really torn on whether Heathcliff distorts and is fought early or at the end. It seems like Cathy, in some, way or another, planned for this to go down this way, as she had access to mirror tech and likely saw her and Heathcliff's fate in every possible world. PM could still spin that in either a positive way (this is an elaborate attempt to get Heathcliff to a happy ending) or negative way (Carmen 2, electric boogaloo).
I do think Carmen will get properly introduced/explained, at least as far as Faust is willing to share. She's such a major part of the setting but is also so background, she needs addressing at some point for Limbus onlys.
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