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I feel like it’s not been talked about that Israel set up a fake aid distribution organization in Gaza that they’ve been using to lure Palestinians into massacres for weeks now. They killed over 30 people just today!

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A lot of Mamdani's antisemitism makes sense when you realize his father is a professor of post-colonialism and was friends with Edward Said. When I said post-colonialism as a field was full of antisemites that are all connected back to Said I wasn't kidding.

His father being an ethnic Indian and scholar of post-colonialism, having been born and lived (and been later expelled) from Uganda is very interesting, and the implications for his antisemitic understanding of I/P even more so. I don't doubt Mamdani's antisemitism came from that environment.

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Queering the Map - No Pride In Genocide 

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Im sure by now many of you have already read or heard about this Haaretz article that talks about how 82% of Israelis approve of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

That same poll also shows that nearly half, 47%, approve of the genocide and believe every Palestinian in Gaza should be killed.

The survey was conducted in March by Israeli scholar Tamir Sorek, a professor at Pennsylvania State University. He worked with the Israeli polling firm Geocartography Knowledge Group.

Most of the Israelis you come across are bad people. Almost all of them approve of the genocide in some shape or form.

These are the people who Palestinians have been dealing with. How does any normal person support these kind of ideologies? Makes me sick to my stomach

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What Mohammed El Kurd said.

I'm Jewish, and unless you're talking about antisemitism *coming from white nationalists/supremacists*, I don't wanna hear it. The term has been so warped to silence and criminalize Palestinians and everyone with a heart who supports their right to exist that it barely has meaning anymore.

I've never felt more welcomed than in Palestinian spaces in part *because* of my position as an antizionist Jewish activist. And it is not OWED me, that generosity of spirit. Palestinians are if anything more understanding of and accepting of Jews than we often are of each other - and considering some Palestinians may never have met a Jewish person who didn't wish them harm, that's a damn miracle.

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Do you think Israel set a precedent that you can attack civilians and nothing will happen? And India is using that precedent?

Yeah absolutely. What you're talking about is often referred to as norm erosion and it's a really good point to bring up in context to Israel/India but also it goes well beyond this.

What we've learned and seen time and time again is that if a state/actor is well aligned globally, they will be able to violate norms repeatedly without suffering any meaningful consequences. That's norm erosion in a nutshell

India watched Israel violate a dozen norms and violate every Geneva convention for the past 2 years and they were absolutely emboldened by it. India believes itself to be a very well aligned global power and so it used that playbook.

However the number 1 violator of norm erosion is the United States. A million deaths in Iraq (mostly civilians), drone programs (also numerous civilians), Afghanistan, Vietnam etc are all examples of what a well positioned actor can get away with.

In fact both India and Israel pull from "the war on terror" playbook. They pull from America's stance on "collateral damage" and "pre-emptive self defense"

We've essentially been watching this happen for a really long time. We're seeing what happens when we allow unmatched global reach, legal insulation to go unchecked.

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One of my childhood friends who like me, was raised as a Zionist just rejected Israel Outdoor's birthright trip offer. We had stopped talking these last few months and she called to apologize and tell me she's not going in May because she's been wrestling with how to reconcile her faith with what Israel is doing. We stopped talking because she couldn't understand why I would do that and now she has come to this conclusion on her own.

This is such a big deal and such a big win for me and I wanted to share this because everyone should know that views can shift. It's definitely not easy and definitely not because of just me but it's possible.

Don't stop talking about Palestine. Don't stop spreading facts about Israel's violent occupation of Palestine.

Btw Israel Outdoors is absolutely disgusting. If you don't know, they recruit college kids on campus to go do birthright trips. They're huge Zionists who openly support the occupation and genocide.

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Great guy, I wonder what he said!

There can be no voluntary agreement between ourselves and the Palestine Arabs. Not now, nor in the prospective future. I say this with such conviction, not because I want to hurt the moderate Zionists. I do not believe that they will be hurt. Except for those who were born blind, they realised long ago that it is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting "Palestine" from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority.

And it made no difference whatever whether the colonists behaved decently or not. The companions of Cortez and Pizzaro or (as some people will remind us) our own ancestors under Joshua Ben Nun, behaved like brigands; but the Pilgrim Fathers, the first real pioneers of North America, were people of the highest morality, who did not want to do harm to anyone, least of all to the Red Indians, and they honestly believed that there was room enough in the prairies both for the Paleface and the Redskin. Yet the native population fought with the same ferocity against the good colonists as against the bad.

The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage

-Iron Wall, Ze'ev Jabotinksy (1923)

Wow, truly remarkable, makes you think that Zionism is a land back movement and not a colonialist project like he's describing it here.

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how do you respond to the fact that there are two million arabs in israel with equal rights?

The fucking Nakba law prohibits PCI (Palestinians in the settler state) to discuss or commemorate the tragedy of the Nakba

The Arabs who were allowed to stay following the war in 1948 were subjected to military rule until 1966.

A Jewish person has the right to return and claim their citizenship, an Arab or PCI and their descendants in diaspora who is native to Palestine and the settler-occupied territories are not.

A Jewish convert in the west is somehow more eligible to citizenship in the settler state than a Palestinian Arab in the diaspora.

There is a wage gap between PCIs and Jewish people in the settler state;

More than half of the PCI families in the settler state are poor.

The settler state issued a Nation-state law in 2018 that stated that self-determination is unique to the settler state. Arabic lost its status as an official language and the settler-state mandates and promotes the establishment and development of kibbutzim.

This gives precedence to settlements in the West Bank as the Likud party considers the West Bank (Judea Samaria, lol) to be part of the settler state.

PCIs are not allowed to develop their own infrastructure or settlements unless with a permit, which is impossible to get if you're PCI.

Many PCI communities are forbidden the right to a weapon's license unlike their Jewish counterparts.

The Call to Prayer ban by Ben Gvir.

East Jerusalem Palestinians account for 350.000 of the Arabs in the settler state civil registry. They are not eligible to vote.

PCI communities are treated like fifth columns;

70% of PCIs are afraid of expressing their opinions on social media about Palestine, fearing backlash from the Settler state community. A notable case is when Israeli students started chanting "death to arabs" when a student expressed their sympathies for the Palestinians. The PCI student was expelled.

No, 1.65 million Arabs/PCI are not enjoying the same rights as their jewish counterparts in the ethnosupremarcist state.

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And they still insist we shouldn't draw comparisons to the Holocaust

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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article300433159.html

A 17-shot fusillade from a shooter with a semiautomatic handgun sent two people to the hospital after an encounter Saturday night in Miami Beach, police said. As to what ignited such an attack on Pine Tree Drive, the arrest form details Mordechai Brafman in the police interview room, “spontaneously stated that while he was driving his truck, he saw two Palestinians and shot and killed both.”

Brafman didn’t kill anybody. One person was shot in the left shoulder, police added, the other person got a grazed forearm. Law enforcement sources didn’t say whether or not the people shot were Palestinians, only that they’re visiting from Israel. The Instagram account South_Florida_Simchas, which posts about Jewish life, posted a selfie video that showed a bullet in a man’s left shoulder and stated the victims were an Israeli father and son and neither were Palestinian.

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There's a video being shared by zionists "debunking" the land loss of palestine and one of the lines is "it was owned by colonial powers neither jews or arabs owned it" but.... so was alot of middle eastern and African countries but the ppl among them were still there. And the popular phrase was "the land was empty" is in that video too. I just don't understand that one even more like the whole of the middle east was settled but palestine wasnt? Who lived in the villages the irgun and Haganah described invading and blowing up? Is that not a sign of settlement? It reminds me when I was reading of the Roman empires conquest of modern day Spain and Portugal and the author of the book was stating that we dont have much evidence of the people living in pre Roman Iberia but we know the Romans, despite declaring them barbarians, would talk about putting them under siege for weeks on end and how the only thing you can put under siege must've been large cities that no longer exist. It's easy to fall for the conquerors narration when it's all you have but thankfully we literally have people who have taken pictures of pre 1948 Palestine that show villages and the fact that people who traveled would talk about the life in palestine. Atp I get so angry hearing that line because it's so nonsensical I know my great grandparents and their parents lived in palestine and their parents as well. You could never describe it as empty. And I think they like to say it was full of "nomadic tribes" to describe them as "rootless" and having no claim to the land but this is how Americans justified the colonization of native land by saying the natives don't really have a connection to the land like the settlers do

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‘She stepped forward, reaching up and catching hold of his shoulders, pulling him down until he was close enough that their faces were nearly touching. His voice faded away as she kissed him. Slowly.’—— Impress Upon You by Senlinyu

Fan art from this delightful little fic by Senlinyu. Particularly appropriate because it’s been snowing here already!

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wait I know why we hate AIPAC but what did ADL do? I thought the anti defamation League was good

The ADL is an Israeli/Zionist advocacy group at its core. It's main priority as an organization is to protect Israel and its mission for a Jewish Ethno-State. This is especially true under Johnathan Greenblatt's leadership who has said "antizionism is antisemitism" It's easy to think that the "Anti Defamation League" has no underlying agenda given its history as a "civil rights organization" but it has constantly used that as a screen for extremely right wing positions on Israel. Some of their greatest hits include: Equating Students for Justice in Palestine, JVP, and CAIR to "white supremacists" simply because they strongly oppose an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. A leaked ADL memo revealing how ADL plans to "soften" the news to Americans that Israel plans to annex the West Bank. (Source). In this leak Greenblatt recognizes that the annexation is a violation of basic human rights. To me this is a clear indication that they are less concerned with civil rights and more concerned with shaping the public image of Israel, especially in the US. Really urge you all to read this leak! Supported South African Apartheid (surprise surprise) and participated in propaganda against Nelson Mandela and the ANC. They even employed a spy named Roy Bullock to infiltrate the anti-apartheid campaign in the US. They later settled a law suit for this. (Source) That's not even close to the only time they've utilized spies. THIS recent leak of Greenblatt talks about ADL having spies in Jewish Voice for Peace and other organizations. It also talks about how they are having a hard time with the global youth no longer buying into their propaganda. Another source you should give your full attention to. PLEASE listen to that whole thing. It's truly terrifying. You're gonna hear them talk a lot about why Tiktok is a danger to their mission.

HERE is an article about how the ADL has a long history of smearing black activists, working with Police/ICE, and its attempts to demonize the BDS movement. I could go on and on about how terrible and deceitful the ADL is. The sources above are a good start to understanding why we shouldn't trust the ADL but please look into all the other things they've done like working with the FBI to spy on Arab Americans, infiltrating student organizations they find to be a threat to "Israel's image", surveillance, the people who fund/donate to them etc.

The best way to fight orgs like this is to share/spread this info as much as you can. It's clearly working because they're losing global support especially with the youth.

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saw your blog and wanted to ask a Zionism question! someone explained to me the difference between Zionism and Kahanism and said Zionism isn’t bad, and it’s bad for goyim (sorry if I got the word wrong, i mean the one that means non-Jewish people) to declare they are for or against Zionism because it’s nearly impossible for us to be educated enough on the issue to have a good opinion, and overall we shouldn’t talk over Jewish voices. They seemed like a very reasonable person. I just wanted to ask the perspective of that from an anti-Zionist Jewish person because I’m still not sure I’m comfortable with the idea of the homeland stuff, but they were right to assume I’m very uneducated on the topic. They said I should ask Zionists for their perspectives on the topic, but my one Jewish friend said an unfortunate amount of Zionists are also Kahanists so I should be weary, and I don’t know how to decisively tell the difference.

thank you in advance! sorry this may be a big question

The first thing to note is that Zionists are by no means the authority on Judaism so don't let them tell you what you can and can't speak about.

Zionism has global implications so it's not just an internal matter. Zionists use that as a way to shield themselves from criticism. You can and should listen to both Jewish and non-Jewish voices that are advocating for human rights. So yes you can speak on Zionism because of it's impact on global politics and it's various human rights violations.

Yes Kahanism is extremely violent and extremist but so are many Zionists. Zionism is a 19th century nationalist movement for a Jewish homeland and it has achieved that through human rights violations and an ongoing genocide. Personally I have a problem with the idea that a homeland for me should come at the cost of Palestinian homes and lives.

Sure Zionism means different things to different people (most Zionists aren't even Jews fyi) but it's important to pay attention to whose voices are being silenced in the name of a nationalist movement.

Tldr: your Zionist friend is wrong to silence you and use antisemitism as a shield from very valid criticism. Zionism is a violent movement and has been responsible for numerous human rights violations. Both ant-Zionist Jews and non Jews have not only the right but an obligation to speak out against violence towards Palestinians. Fuck Zionists. Zionism is antisemitism

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Not only is this person extremely incorrect, they're also a huge antisemite. You cannot be stripped of your Jewishness. No being ostracized by part of the Jewish community doesn't mean you're not a Jew anymore.

The Neturei Karta are Jews who follow Jewish Law and mossadspypigeon is a stupid antisemite and has no idea what she's talking about.

Also there was no Cherem declared against them. Jfc these Zionists are disgustingly antisemitic