#No it doesn't prove your point because I've literally never harassed ANYONE over kris's gender and it's very out of pocket for you to use

[cryptideye]

Kris isn't a player insert but their gender is up for interpretation. It's like in a voice acted game where you can name your character, so no one actually calls your character by name. So it can be whatever you want.

I'm sick of people like you harassing people and acting like they're awful for having headcanons. I've seen 12 year olds get freaked out at by people like you.

girl what 😭 please point out any time ive "freaked out" at any kids, or where I was aggressive in my post. I just said I hated an *argument I saw people use* and then explained why I disagreed with it. All I did was present my opinion, and you're acting like I personally bullied kids over it. Do I really need to hand-hold and add a thousand "but it's just my opinion it's okay if you disagree honey uwu uwu uwu"s to my posts for them to not be taken as a personal attack? I literally said *in the tags* that I wasn't mad at people who did this on accident or because they didn't connect the points together that I made in my post. How does this read as the ideology of a bully to you? You are overreacting, I'm allowed to have an opinion just as you are (even if you're wrong) LMAO. stop trying to villify me because you dont like my opinion

But this ask kinda pissed me off so I might Actually be a little mean here to You Specifically because I'm so sick of explaining this

Your argument here doesn't make much sense to me. In most games where you can name your character, there isn't a literal scene saying you don't get to choose who you are in this world. Kris isn't customizable! There is an entire CUTSCENE about how they aren't customizable! You literally make an entire custom character, name them, and they are then discarded and you play as kris instead! the game is REALLY clear that kris isnt just a normal rpg protagonist like youd get from games where they’re more customizable. The fact you even made this comparison at all proves you didn't fucking get the point of my original post! If you acknowledge that they aren't a player insert, why are you comparing them to a game where you can name a character whatever you want? If Kris isn't a player insert like you said, why is it OK to misgender them when they are *exclusively* referred to by they/them in the text? Their mom calls them they, their teacher, etc. You can argue they're nonbinary to make the character more neutral and relatable to all genders (which I bring up in the tags of my post), but they're still exclusively they/them in game.

Using your "characters not referring to the player by name" argument, if the point was for kris' gender to be up to interpretation why wouldn't deltarune just... Do this? I'm sure the writers are more than capable of avoiding using any pronouns at all for kris, so why use they/them exclusively? Especially in a series where multiple NON player characters are also they/them only like blooky and monster kid. We also see multiple characters not referred to by any pronouns at all in game like the shopkeepers (though seam is called they/them on stream) and undyne before she is properly introduced, so it is DEFINITELY possible and something realistic to take into account here.

I have NEVER seen this shit happen with cis characters who by go exclusively he or she which is why this bugs me so much. You can name link whatever you want in some of the earlier Zelda games, but you don't see people arguing that his gender is up to interpretation, or that him being a dude isn't canon because they choose to see him as a girl. This ONLY happens with nonbinary characters (and sometimes trans character, or just those who are androgynous but it's mostly NBs) and I am sick of arguing about this!