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1/n The post about hating Berlin 》 IT IS SO ME ! Even i hate characters like him, but then he went and died like *that* and Pedro Alonso and his pretty face and pretty voice ugh even i used to feel so guilty for watching edits and then seeing everyone say berlin was the best and we all realised that late I was like,,, yea but no,,, he was also the worst! And I also used to do that thing where you search up essays or comments that he was a bastard and I'd be like yep that he was i don't like him

2/n But I DID LIKE HIM and the first time I realised he was growing on me was right about that Russian roulette scene, I remember being so worried for him and being so mad at Tokyo?? and then he kicked Tokyo out (I love that scene, the music and everything is so EPIC) and I WAS SOLD I was like you're so problematic but you're my fav it just be like that 😅 the bella ciao scene and his affection for sergio just makes me SOFT everytime i think about it + I have a weakness for brothers in media too

3/n Then s3 dropped and while me and my fam were watching even my MOM who HATES him, we all went awww at that reunion scene in Florence, in fact for a second I was so excited that he somehow escaped :') lmao but then in s3 is when I finally accepted my LOVE for him.. his "Forza Michelangelo" and the whole scene leading up to guantanamera where he describes how to break into the vault and the scenes in the monastery between the brothers,,, they just break my heart 

3/n In s3 we see how much Andrés meant to Sergio and when Raquel asks him if it's all just revenge and if rio is just the perfect excuse to avenge his brother it always takes my breath away... and the way Andrés loved the plan so much and he isn't there to see it being executed? All he heard from Sergio when he was alive was how the plan is a disaster and now that his hermanito is actually doing it, he's not there to see it 😭😭😭 he's only a stupid painting on canvas

4/n i'm so sorry for dumping all my feels about andrés onto you, I just miss him so much like even right now if they made a way for him to come back alive I'd take it., I'd ignore all the logical fallacies if I can just see him ALIVE and reuniting with Martín and Sergio again :') one can dream! but yes, what I wanted to say was, that post is a BIG MOOD, and I still do remind myself now and then that they are major jerks (in fact, my sister does all the reminding I need she HATES them all lol)

Anon, are we like linked?? We are literally kindred spirits! LMAO same here. One minute I’m looking up Berlin hate posts and nodding my head along like, “yes, I too am part of the morally superior fandom club.” Then after patting myself on the back for doing the bare minimum of character critique, I went back to watching edits of his pretty face :’D Like, in my heart I always knew I was a hypocrite but I didn’t want to admit it lol. I also did the “no he’s not the best, he’s the worst!” thing you did, but every time he was on screen, I knew where my eyes were going (sadly lol).

I think during s1/2, every time I came close to “liking” Berlin, he’d do something that made me go “that’s terrible!!” until eventually he just crossed so many problematic lines he circled back to being not-problematic by virtue of being such a shameless fucker. He also grew on me during the bella ciao scene; granted, I thought he and Sergio were a couple at this point but I wasn’t too sure. Either way, I couldn’t help feeling soft for that affection (and once it was confirmed they were brothers, after I got over my luke/leia surprise.jpg moment, the brotp feels just went through the roof! And I was like, you know what, their relationship is so much more special as brothers instead. It’s my first time getting invested in fictional siblings so that’s cool.).

Also ngl, that scene where he kicked Tokyo out? Iconic and hilarious. Top 10 lcdp moments for sure XD And his death had me so conflicted because like, it really suited the character but it’s not exactly a redeeming moment because he dragged a hostage down with him for one last moment of trauma. I would have just accepted this as it was and moved on from whatever hangups I had about Berlin (and by hangups, I mean how much I hated the fact that I didn’t hate him lol). But they had to drop S3 and it was too late.

Flashback!Andrés was truly endearing (and once again, not usually the type of character I vibe with!) and Pedro Alonso managed to be even more attractive. This was when I knew no amount of hate comments could save me :’) Now all I can do is grit my teeth and say to myself, “remember that he is an asshole.” Anyway, my compromise now is to stan Pedro the actor but just accepting Berlin the character with all his flaws/nuances. You probably do the same- that’s why it doesn’t bother us to read character hate essays XD It’s like we’re trying to punish ourselves... and failing. 

btw, its funny that you mention your mom because I also watched lcdp with mine. It was a wonderful experience because she told me she disliked Berlin the most in part 1, but she also repeatedly went on about how handsome he was every time he was on screen. I didn’t even properly watch the “Forza Michelangelo” scene because that was the point where she went “whoa, Berlin is so handsome.”

Also, the brothers scenes in the flashbacks were some of my favorites! My all-time favorite lcdp shot is their reunion in Florence. The music, the cinematography, the Emotion on their faces. Just sweep me away :’) 

LOL given the way the bank plan is going, maybe it’s best that Andrés isn’t witnessing it. But it’s so bittersweet how he’s impacting Sergio’s decisions from beyond the grave. The only reason Andrés doesn’t feel dead is because of those flashbacks lol, but when we put them aside, then yeah, it’s like “oof” he’s dead and not coming back. Also I’ve been thinking the past few days about how he’s always the one to say “te quiero” first to others (Sergio and Martin). Neither of them ever got the chance to say it back to him in the show. 

I loved when Raquel asked Sergio if it was about revenge (and he didn’t even answer!) because Sergio’s grief has been very quiet. It’s such a powerful line, shows us that Sergio isn’t as calm about these things as he pretends to be. And it also shows how deeply Raquel understands what he feels/shows how much he told her about his brother. Just a great quiet character moment for everyone all around. 

Don’t apologize, anon! I haven’t had anyone to dump Andrés feels with either haha, so this is a fun experience for us both. And I get what you mean- if he’d just been shot or just been ill, maybe the writers could bring him back in the present. But no, they shot him like 400x and threw a terminal illness on top of it all lmao. I’d pay good money to see how they resurrect him from that. Maybe he’ll make a surprise comeback in the season finale and then immediately sacrifice himself to save the gang again. All in 10 minutes.

so flashbacks are our next best thing :’) It would be lovely to have some berlermo closure, but I’m also totally hoping for some hermanos moments. Anyway, thanks for the messages and glad we share a MOOD. Your sister is your conscience and she is on the right path, she won’t stray from the light like us XD I’m that person who will be like “Yes, rant away, say the truth!” @ anyone who writes comments about why Andrés is a bastard people shouldn’t like, while also giving him my vote in a sexiest character poll.