#and disproportionately. like guys chill. they didn't even breach the walls

[myrddin-wylt]

I feel like I should warn my new followers that I have PMDD and sometimes get extremely, unreasonably combative for absolutely no reason. like right now. I wanna rant and this is your disclaimer.

like I cannot for the fucking life of me understand how people think the First Crusade was the first holy war between Catholics* and Muslims when the Umayyads and Franks, Visigoths, Normans, Italians, and Sicilians et al had been duking it out in Iberia, France, and Italy since the Early Muslim Conquests in the 7th and 8th centuries. do not let the name fool you, the First Crusade was not the first crusade. like it’s just... bro they were fighting on and off more or less constantly since first contact. what do you MEAN you think the Crusades were the unprovoked start of Christian-Muslim holy wars and not a new phase of an already extant centuries-long conflict. I think you’re just a fucking idiot.

strictly speaking, depending on how you want to define ‘Catholic,’ (since the Nicene Christian denominations at least were extremely ambiguous and fluid at this point and significant/formal schism only happened much later) the first Catholic/Nicene Christian-Muslim conflict started in September 629 AD with the Battle of Mu’tah, which was fought between the Byzantines and Ghassanids vs the Muslim Arabs led by the Pr. Muhammad. like when I say ‘first contact’ I mean first contact.