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#as the family with the most power in the series they're symbols of the inherent injustice and corruption of that power
cookinguptales · 1 year
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Okay so... clearly people want to make sure I saw the Hanged Man imagery in 5.05...
Putting aside that I think it's very funny that this is apparently what people associate with me now, the reason I haven't really talked about it is because I'm not really sure what I think about it.
Yes, I saw the post. Yes, I saw the imagery while I was watching. But what does it mean? It's not that I don't have any ideas; it's more the opposite? I'm still not 100% convinced that all this is being done on purpose (though... it's certainly starting to feel more pointed the more it happens) but if it is being done on purpose... god, it could mean so many different things.
I talked about what The Hanged Man means a bit in my WWDITS tarot series, but it's one of those cards with a lot of different implications, and it's hard to know whether these things are being applied to specific characters, the overall narrative, etc.
So... some possibilities that immediately come to mind:
Colin Robinson as The Hanged Man. He was one of the characters I seriously considered for this card, so like. I get it. Particularly in s4 he seemed trapped in a sort of transitional period, and he still doesn't quite seem to have his path figured out. Like he's said himself, he just kinda keeps on truckin'. CR as Hanged Man could be alluding to his feelings of alienation from both humans and the other vampires. It could be a reference to his looping existence that prevents him from ever fully moving forward. It could be a reference to his meditative journey of self-discovery. This could go a lot of ways, tbh.
Many people talk about the Major Arcana as a journey, and The Hanged Man appears about halfway through when a break is needed to self-reflect, reassess, rest, etc. It can allude to feeling "stuck" or like you can't find a place where you fit. It's a highly liminal card, which -- again, it can go a lot of ways. If this is being applied to the overall narrative, is this an allusion to the halfway point? To the last few moments of internality and thinking before everything goes to shit? To the fact that a lot of characters currently feel "stuck"? To the way that no one can quite find a place for themselves anymore?
If anything, in this episode in particular, it feels like The Hanged Man might refer to Guillermo. He's hovering between two states, human and vampire, and he definitely feels trapped there. He feels trapped by his physicality (unable to use and control vampiric powers but still being burned by the symbols/people that used to protect him), trapped by his decisions (The Hanged Man is also occasionally used as imagery about punishment), and feels utterly stuck. He currently cannot move forward and does not know why. He's being forced to reconsider a lot of the driving beliefs and goals that have propelled him this far, and he's not necessarily liking what he's discovering.
Can this refer to the characters as a whole? Most of them feel like they're at a midway point in their current journeys, still feeling out information but currently unable to put it together in a way that makes sense. Nadja investigating her curse/Antipaxon family. Laszlo investigating Guillermo's change. Guillermo living through that change and investigating ways forward. Nandor being deeply suspicious of a change that he can sense but cannot make sense of. He doesn't even know what to investigate. All of them do feel a bit stuck, not just Guillermo and Colin.
Could this be an allusion to the way that vampires are liminal beings in this show? It's made incredibly clear in this episode that they don't really fit in anywhere and have this trauma of knowing that any "home" will last only as long as they keep their secrets. They have this trauma of knowing that there is no place for them, and they exist outside all accepted societal boundaries. They hang between worlds, and the lives that they've built are kind of inherently temporary. They're kind of constantly in a waiting period, aren't they, and they never know how long it'll last. Guillermo is only just now understanding what he's going to have to give up to join them.
Speaking of which, The Hanged Man is also a sign of sacrifice. This is a lesser-used reading, admittedly, but still very common. Is it a reference to the way Colin Robinson wanted to stand and fight, even if he had to sacrifice his life? Is it a reference to Guillermo sacrificing both of his families to his ambition, and really quickly coming to regret that? I worry a little bit about how this particular reading might come back to hurt us all later.
Honestly... these are my initial thoughts, but it's really just the tip of the iceberg. The Hanged Man is a card with a lot of different meanings attached to it, and it could be applied very broadly to the cast and overall events of the season. I have a lot of ideas, but like... it's hard to know where to direct them!
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dhampirwomen · 2 years
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"the ivashkovs were a royal family, one of the wealthiest and most powerful. they were the kind of people who thought they could get anything they wanted and walked over those in their way."
-rose hathaway, frostbite
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#vampire academy#the ivashkovs#the ivashkovs are prob the best example in va of the way royal moroi exploit dhampirs and reinforce cisheteropatriarchal moroi supremacy#the unjust and oppressive standards of their society are believed and reinforced by all characters to different levels#but it really hits its peak with the ivashkovs#as the family with the most power in the series they're symbols of the inherent injustice and corruption of that power#(anyone and everyone below them including other royals like tasha aren't immune)#tatiana daniella and adrian are sexually interested in dhampirs (ambrose and rose) but that doesn't make them any less moroi supremacist#in fact the way ambrose and esp rose are objectified is one of the biggest way moroi supremacy and misogyny is reinforced#daniella wants dhampir women enslaved with compulsion#tatiana's idea of a compromise is putting 16 yo dhampirs on the front lines#she slutshames and threatens rose's career for having the gall to be *checks notes* sexually harassed by tatiana's royal nephew#nathan's casual constant supremacy and support for oppressive policies speaks for itself#and adrian direspects violates and gaslights rose while telling himself he respects women's consent and did it all for love#one of the most fascinating levels of adrian's character is the way he mirrors the rest of his family tbh#and i feel like it gets disregarded bc it doesn't make him sympathetic even tho it makes him more interesting#(from a watsonian analysis pov)#his contempt/resentment for dimitri a working class dhampir man long predates last sacrifice#he always disregards rose's will and happiness if it conflicts with his own#and he has double standards for dhampirs even if he has no moral ground to stand on#(it's ok if adrian tries to seduce rose while she's dating mason but it's an outrage when rose cheats on adrian etc)#i should prob tag this#anti adrian ivashkov#even tho it isn't really an anti take but ik his stans prob won't want to see it#queue*
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