#dont make weird cest jokes

[ao3-sucks]

my own ao3 experience was that i got into it when i was in a huge fandom that had a bunch of underage and incestuous pairings and fics. i really started getting into it when i was like fresh into middle school and not soon after that id start reading a bunch of explicit fics. basically pretty sure reading that stuff is what made me feel anxious around my 2 older siblings and like if i showed any kind of affection like even a hug or just laughing at a joke sometimes itd be seen as a sign of attraction. im in my 20s now and it still really affects me. i feel like less valid with my online trauma somehow bc i did it to myself lol.

  Anonymous said to ao3-sucks:

I got manipulated by an adult into writing an extremely triggering fic about rape and abuse between two young siblings, and ended up having to draw on my own traumatic experiences for it. I pretended to be okay with it, and let them say it was my fault it was like that, and when I finally got tired of hiding it and publicly called them out on it, multiple people defended them, using that pretense against me. I still haven't fully recovered from that. Sometimes I wonder if it really was my fault. 

Anonymous said to ao3-sucks:

thank you SO MUCH for this blog, I was groomed into thinking the wildest of things were acceptable by fandom people, and it wasnt until i was about 15 or 16 that i finally wised up and dropped the thinking once and for all. thank you again and have a really good week!

Anonymous said to ao3-sucks:

I don’t really know how old the post that talked about the experience of one of the mods with ao3 is, but just in case, this is about that post that had mentions of r//pe and @“cest. And damn, I’ve never stopped to think that my aversion to sex maybe came from my early exposure to that kind of stuff, now I know that I’m asexual, but it’s comforting to see that I’m not alone in this, so thank you for sharing your story

Anonymous said to ao3-sucks:

god this is probably stupid and you dont have to post this if you don't want to, but thank you so much for making this page. ive had similar experiences in online fandom and ive really struggled with classifying any of it as "real" since it was all online. that post talking about your experience with everything was really eye opening for me. thank you for reminding me im not alone.

Anonymous said to ao3-sucks:

wrt your ao3 essay // thank you for sharing your story about ao3. ive had some similar experiences, but i never interacted with anyone on ao3, just read ff. in around a 1-2 years of consuming that content, i had developed some psychosis relating to sexual trauma, but i never had anything happen to me so i didnt really know what to think. i was just scared. its nice to know that.. it wasnt just random? that more people are talking about this? something like that. thank you. i hope you are well.

Anonymous said to ao3-sucks:

i just read through your experiences and while i was never really involved with fanfiction during my childhood, i WAS exposed to plenty of other weird interactions on other sites starting probably as early as 11  and just realized that me starting to use the internet more probably coincides with me showing similar things such as starting to hate being touched and consider myself asexual/sex repulsed. it was nothing that i'd considered to be that impactful or big a deal before and there weren't really specific people to blame, but i definitely don't know how to feel about this knowledge now.

Anonymous said to ao3-sucks:

just read that post abt your ao3 experience and holy fuck, so sorry you had to go through that. but also, thank you. its scary to think tht ive cldve been in the same situation since i was browsing the internet from a v young age. i was huge into roleplaying and thereve been a few times where it became, uuh... not completely sfw (unknowingly to me, i just wanted to rp). but the moment it became too weird, i ghosted n blocked (i had a very anti-internet-stranger policy). again, thanks. take care

Anonymous said to ao3-sucks:

I was 12 when I got my first ship. I got into it because of the cute art online and I never once thought about it being bad. It was pedophilic amongst other things. I just started writing fic, so I wrote for this ship. I was asked to write straight up human AU "porn where xyz is a pedo" by people far older than me. I didn't know any better, I wrote it and every other request like it. It go so bad that I though that pedophilia was OKAY. It took me so long to unlearn that and many other things because of that ship and I still feel bad for ever having shipped it. So when people say things like "fiction doesn't effect reality" it makes me mad. It teaches little kids that things like pedophilia and rape are okay.

I opted to answer these as a group because they are all so similar. It breaks my heart how often I get anons, post replies, and reblogs about my AO3 essay from people saying that my experiences closely mirrored theirs. I hope that everyone who has sent me these messages can forgive themselves for what happened to them, and know that it’s not your fault that other people decided to take advantage of you. I’m working on healing, and I hope you can all do the same.

- Mod Daft

[thesharondefenseleague]

There is a few reasons even though they have said Loki is gender fluid and included it in the show ( via end credit sequence one sentence in his file) when it comes time to acknowledge that in any sort of way in the show they kind of deny it. Like there is a female Loki in the show because the show is dealing with different versions of Loki. But all other Lokis think that's really weird that any version of them could be a woman even though Loki is genderfluid.

Loki casually mentions he's into men and women as is Sylvie ( the female Loki variant) but Loki has no scenes where he seems interested in a man even casually like checking someone out casually flirting for information etc. And Sylvie has no scenes where she does the same with a woman.

The show is about Loki learning to love himself so they have him fall for Sylvie so...himself. Which some people find uncomfortable because they dont like self cest.

And honestly to me it seems more like a joke than anything as in oh of course Loki would fuck himself. Which he would but it's treated very seriously. I mean you could do it seriously but imagine if you did a story where 2012 Loki and Infinity Wars Loki go on a road trip and then hook up. It seems to me its harder to make it romantic easier to make it hilarious if its selfcest.

But more importantly he doesn't grow to love any of the other versions of himself the way he loves Sylvie. I don't mean in a romantic way I mean in anyway. In fact he seems frustrated by alot of them. And even though the show is about self discovery and love he only spends alot if of time with one variant the rest only get 1 episode ( the same episode) and the one who he has the most in common with as far as life experience goes isn't even Sylvie.

Sylvie is also not very fleshed out because she's more a vessel for Lokis character growth which made people upset because they wanted to see the actual Lady Loki.

I mean, listen, of all the Marvel TV shows, this one is the best. Not perfect, but better than the other two, in at least it had a great ending.

I said on another post that Feige wouldn’t show the racism that Sam would face as a black Captain America because then they’d have to acknowledge the existence of racism and how blatant it was in the comics. The same goes for Loki’s gender. It will be avoided as long as he can manage it. This is another thing where since the MCU will likely never do that, the comics is what you’ll want. I get not every MCU fan wants to read the comics, but seriously, they’re so much better, and they will deliver.

The Sylvie thing... does it matter? Did it ever matter? The number of fucked up ships in this fandom, this is the straw that broke the camel’s back? If Sylvie wasn’t female-presenting, this argument wouldn’t be happening, just so we’re clear. But because she is, I hate that when a character is bisexual, the fandom demands only same-gender attraction (which logically, they would likely both identify as genderfluid, so there’s that). It’s clear he’s drawn to her because he’s fascinated by the Loki that is essentially better than him, and he’s a narcissist, there’s logic no matter how discomforting it may be.

At this point, for the one show we know is getting a second season, let’s wait and see.

~Mod R