#idk man i used to be really like eww it's important to tell people about these freaks

[miraclemaya]

i do think especially arguments about this stuff that hinge on going, well im a victim and i think this is bad are unworkable because you will find a hundred other victims who go oh it helps me process it or whatever else

[genderkoolaid]

okay, so, i keep seeing this take come up a lot from non-trans men and non-trans mascs, and it’s making me a bit uncomfortable. for background, i’m a trans man that writes smut for trans mascs, trans men, and non-binary folks. i write in fandom spaces so this is a strictly fandom basis and not irl basis

more and more often i keep seeing non trans men and non trans mascs saying “if you think mpreg is gross you’re just transphobic” without nuance and when i explain “hey, this maybe isn’t a good take to have since there’s a LOT of reasons people may be grossed out by mpreg (eg. dysphoria, how heavily fetishized it is in fandom spaces by non-trans writers, how it’s used to fetishize trans m characters, the person grossed out may be a closeted trans man or trans masc or don’t realize that the “gross” feeling is dysphoria, etc.)”, i get shouted down and told that i’m wrong. and it’s kind of making me question my own line of thinking.

i guess, i’m just looking for some perspective from trans men and trans mascs on this topic? if there is any? bc i honestly can’t tell if i’m having a knee jerk reaction to my own personal experiences with fetishization. idk if you do much with fandom spaces, but i also don’t really know where else to get perspective

I think there's an important difference between different interpretations of "finding mpreg gross." One interpretation is male pregnancy being a squick for people as individuals for a variety of reasons, such as dysphoria. But in the context of systemic transandrophobia, "gross" is describing the idea that male pregnancy is an obscene, disturbing fetish akin to guro, something that is objectively abnormal and inappropriate.

The reason why "mpreg is gross" is transphobic is because its based in the idea that a pregnant man is unnatural and wrong, and that pregnant men can only exist as a "fucked up" sexual fetish. People are incapable of being normal about male pregnancy in any context and will compulsively go "EWW mpreg is so weird and fucked up!!! is this omegaverse!!!" even when talking about real men's experiences or desires. Male pregnancy is seen as a joke, a kink, or a crime against nature, but never something normal, natural, neutral.

Feeling dysphoria around pregnancy for yourself isn't transphobic, and people can write/depict male pregnancy in ways that are uncomfortable. Personally, I don't like how a lot of people's first thought when it comes to male pregnancy is cis men getting pregnant, with trans men- men who can and do actually get pregnant- are an afterthought. Its annoying to see posts joking about "getting a man pregnant" where people immediately jump to "cis male mpreg," distancing transmascs from our own bodies' abilities & replacing us in the cultural mind with cis men. I don't think cis male mpreg is inherently bad, but there are valid criticisms to be made.

And while you are just talking about fandom stuff, I don't think we should entirely separate this from the wider treatment of pregnant men- who are constantly dehumanized irl, treated like walking freaks (I was just reading an article the other day where a trans father talked about being called "it" throughout his pregnancy, and this is not uncommon), and having their gender validity heavily scrutinized for using their "female anatomy" even though they "want to be a man," sometimes even from other trans people. The way mpreg is treated in fandom spaces does very little to counter this narrative- if anything, in my experience, it just adds that "dirty" connotation, where pregnant men aren't just freaks, their pregnancy must be inherently sexual and should be kept out of public spaces. And this really does not help the idea that trans people are groomers who shouldn't be around children- I have also seen transphobes fearmonger about transmasc fathers & their children & whether or not the children will be safe, or be able to grow up properly, or if they'll be traumatized because of their father.

This is all to say: I don't know exactly the contexts you've heard "saying mpreg is gross is transphobic" in, but to me, arguing against "mpreg = gross" is a necessary part of dealing with the objectifying & dehumanizing way we see male pregnancy discussed in fandom spaces. Male pregnancy should be just the same as female pregnancy. Its normal, its natural. Some people have fetishes relating to it. Some people are really disturbed by the idea of it happening to them. & while there are unique brands of misogyny directed at pregnant women, the image of a pregnant woman isn't treated like something inherently dirty and obscene the same way a pregnant man is. People finding male pregnancy strange or gross- not because of dysphoria or personal preference, but out of transandrophobia- is the status quo right now, and its important to counteract this by normalizing male pregnancy as A Thing Some Men Do.

[randomidiocyncrazies]

hm. just finished ep 12 and i just gotta say.... i think, so far, the show had been irresponsible wrt trauma and abuse in some aspects, while being positive in other aspects. and with ep 12, i personally found the Sawaki subplot leaning more towards the irresponsible side

like... given the main theme of the show explores the grooming and abuse of minors (especially young girls), i find it a little distasteful that they have Ai say parallel!Sawaki is just “a monster created by her paranoia” when IRL abuse has hints or are otherwise obvious in retrospect, but ignored because the abuser is well-regarded. it’s frustrating to intentionally mislead the audience into thinking that someone is an abuser for a “heh heh gotcha!” twist that reinforces actual real life ideas about who is/is not an abuser (i.e. that person is well-respected so ofc they’re not an abuser, it’s all in your head, you’re just paranoid/reading into things too much etc). 

it also kinda sucks that part of the situation is framed as Ai’s problem that she’s ‘at fault’ for? like, her final confrontation with parellel!Sawaki is framed as her being jealous that a) her crush (eww) got together with her mom and b) her mom having a life outside of her interactions with Ai. She even says she’s “done with the me that craves attention” as if that’s the root of her suicidal ideation. the whole sequence is portrayed as her coming to terms with her mother being with her crush (again: ewwww) and giving them her blessing + getting rid of her jealousy (incidentally, the whole “daughter and mother fighting over the same man” is also pretty Freudian, just to reinforce that ep 11′s disturbing dynamic between child-and-father figure isn’t a one-off thing... but to be fair, ep 11 did make it fairly clear that it’s effin’ creepy)

(also.... i can’t believe str8 dudebros got it right that Ai was in love with Sawaki the whole time lmao. though thankfully it doesn’t seem like the “Ai actually hates Koito for being her competition” theory really panned out)

to throw in some mixed messaging, parallel!Sawaki (and Sawaki, since the show doesn’t really make a distinction between the two versions, and I think we’re meant to read them as basically the same figure in their impact on both Ais) is still portrayed in a sinister light—that creepy monologue about “the purity of young love” and goading Ai (and Koito) to take their own lives, plus the whole thing about how “my public face has got you fooled too”—Ai might’ve gotten closure, as evidenced by Koito being un-statued, but there’s still a lot of unclarity about what actually happened... which I wouldn’t be surprised if we never actually get to know, because the most important thing about these events is how Ai feels about it; she got emotional closure (even tho I sure didn’t lol), so there’s no real need to revisit what ‘actually’ happened. of course, i’d like to know what actually went down, but i’m resigned to it if the show never tells us

(also, in real life sometimes things just remain a mystery... nobody has access to someone else’s interiority, which works well for something about suicide—while you can speculate on the motive after the fact, you can’t really be 100% certain unless they leave a note, and even that note might not be 100% what was really going through their mind. HOWEVER, this is a show written by people, which means it’s not ‘real life’ but is something man-made—so whether they successfully pulled this off can be debated.)

maybe i’ll have different thoughts if/when i rewatch the episode, but for now... i want to be hopeful about the finale in june but i’m scared lol. i wonder how it will wrap all of this up, especially with the emphasis on parallel worlds. (i know that the parallel world gimmick is mostly so that Ai can address her suicidal ideation, but with how heavy-handed they were, it looks like it’ll play a large role? idk)

[iihappydaysii]

these cute boys and their poor communication skills god help us all

alright, strap in my pals, because I’ve just rewatched the infamous john makes a move on jamie in ardsmuir and it all goes to shit scene and I have a lot of fucking thoughts. (this is focused on the show btw, i haven’t read this part of the books).

ok so it’s been three months since they’ve decided to be all friendly. and it breaks my heart to see because, there’s this easy happiness here and it’s so obvious how well they get along and enjoy each other’s company — and Grey helping Murtagh obviously endeared him to Jamie a bit.

Also, let’s just acknowledge Jamie saying “why you cunning wee bastard” when John does a good chess move and how it’s sooo mother forking hot. i can’t even tell ye. and grey is so proud of himself. (also my heart is always so full when I see John wearing Hector’s ring).

(pretty much the overarching theme of this is going to be that I totally get why john gets the wrong idea from jamie, especially given how subtle things had to be at the time. it doesn’t /not/ remind me of how john and percy will eventually dance around their feelings without saying anything. it’s like a quiet, sad art. unfortunately, my sweet, sweet boy gets it wrong here.)

Anyway, it hurts my soul that they both wanted to die after culloden, like their lives were both changed that day and now Grey is going to talk about a “particular friend” kill me. “he inspired me” stab me. oops and him talking about that deleted scene of Hal dragging Grey away from Hector’s dead body. (idk why i’m sometimes calling him john and sometimes grey, don’t ask questions)

“He was embarrassed you see” this is where it all gets wild to me. there’s no way NO waY Jamie doesn’t realize what Grey is saying. You see it in Jamie’s face. Realization but it’s not like he’s upset or anything—and what John shares here leads him to talk about Claire—to trust John with her name—so obviously he’s drawing a connection between the two things.

All I’m saying is that right then is when Jamie knows that Grey is gay, or whatever concept he could have of it at the time. (i think jamie’s reaction here is a big part of why john gets the wrong signal), he’s not upset by it.

Jamie’s whole speech about “caring for those we cannot help” is such foreshadowing of John’s relationship with Jamie but carry on. Oh and, emptiness but no great burden seems to be important— I’ll come back to that in a moment.

“I’ve been meaning to thank you for some time, major” Thanking John and calling him major, sign me the fuck up, but i’ve always loved this moment. it’s jamie expressing his like a trust for the man—and again, this is where their wires start getting even more crossed.

(I love John’s face when he realizes it was Claire he saved not an actual english woman in danger, poor guy)

I don’t think Jamie is meaning to flirt here at ALL, but i totally get why John starts to think he is. There are some serious signals. Lots of eye contact, leaning in, playful banter, just he sound of jamie’s voice here etc. all following John’s obvious confession that he was interested in men. on top of that, jamie is complementing him. talking about what a good man he is.

now is the moment when it all goes to shit and it’s interesting that john says “I see”. it’s not the most appropriate response to Jamie’s “I’ve thought of that now and again since I’ve lost her”. It’s just such an interesting reaction from John here. What does he think he’s seeing? That Jamie needs someone the way he needs someone. I said I’d talk about the whole “emptiness but no great burden” thing and I think, in part, that’s what this is about—like maybe John is thinking “we both need something to care about to fill that emptiness.”

In general though it’s an interesting thing because it’s such a risk to do what John does here. He has got to think touching Jamie’s hand will be well received or it would be very stupid to do it. This is something that, in order to survive, John would have to normally be good at doing. He would have to be good at understanding who is interested in him and who is not. Even if he’s emboldened by the fact that no one would believe Jamie, he’s still clearly upset by the reaction (he cries) and knows the consequence of losing someone he’s befriended as well as losing his go-between at the prison.

So, John says “I see” then slowly reaches out for Jamie’s hand. Jamie doesn’t pull away. John says, “I am sorry for your loss”. At this point, John’s hand is still. We see Jamie’s face for a moment and he’s still smiling. Whatever it means, I think John sees that as well as Jamie not moving. But then John’s eyes cast downward to their hands. And then (I die) because he (does the thing that kills me) rubs his thumb on Jamie’s hand and gives him that look (a look I would fight armies to have cast in my direction). It’s a question. It’s obvious, John has been here before and he’s actually certain enough in the reaction he’s going to get (and boy is the sweet snuggle bear man wrong).

This is the point where Jamie seems to start freaking out. I dinna ken lmao what Jamie is thinking up to this point. (since we don’t know i’m going to go with what I want to be happening— he was flirting with john because it was fun and safe and he likes the man and when it actually goes this way, he freaks out.) But seriously, it could run the gambit between what I just wrote, that he’s just like eww he’s being gay in my general direction, or (and very, very possibly) it’s just the reminder of Captain Randall, like a trigger. John and BlackJack technically have the same name, they’re wearing similar clothes, it happened when Jamie was Randall’s prisoner. There are a lot of things in this moment that could trigger Jamie and it really, really sucks because John has no idea and is such a good man and would never, ever hurt someone.

See… and Sam’s choice to make Jamie’s lip tremble when he says “take your hand off me”. There’s fear there. It’s not disgust or anger, truly. He’s scared, looks like he’s going to cry and my poor heart is a broken pile of garbage dirt. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE JOHN DOES CRY.

I can’t believe I wrote like 1000 words of my dumb thoughts on this scene, but seriously, it’s such a pivotal moment and so expertly played by Sam and David. There’s so much feeling and care and loss. So much yet unknown about the other, that things are misinterpreted and people get hurt and panic. and just ughhhhhhh

i need to discuss everyone’s thoughts on this scene in great detail

[bwicblog]

RS: | Is Anyone Here not Enthralled by the Battle Talk | ? |

ID: yo.

RS: | Because | Heavens | I know I'm Not |

RS: | How Did That Even Start | ? | =:1 |

ID: i hit things until they stop moving, don't need to talk about it. =:I

ID: nerds. that's how.

VA: I Think iT sTemmed frŏm Talk abŏuT The upcŏming fair

RS: | Yes | Haha | That's about All You Need to Do | Isn't It | ? | RS: | Or Hit Them Hard Enough You can Abscond |

ID: i mean. i always hit them until they stop moving but absconding works for you so rock it.

ID: don't need to read about armies to figure out how to cull a troll. =:/

VA: Survival is The mŏsT impŏrTanT parT anyway

RS: | Haha | Well | I don't Always Abscond | RS: | Just | Mostly | It's a Little Pointless to Actually Fight People |

RS: | Never Mind | Cull Them |

ID: hey you take that back. =:P

RS: | Haha | Me | or VA | ? |

RS: | Survival is Important | ! | =:B |

ID: well i meant you but i guess i can fight survival too.

VA: I dunnŏ, survival is preTTy alrighT

LL: That's what I keep SAYING, tbh! LL: Like, everyone's on about fighting with STICKS and I don't GET why you don't just go and pick up a GUN.

VA: WaiT why are yŏu here

VA: Yŏu're Teal

LL: Insider secrets??

ID: fucking hell we're under attack.

LL: Also I'm moirails with ID.

ID: ...other id.

LL: The REAL one, not the dude that won't fight with a gun.

VA: ŏh, ThaT's beTTer Than The answer I was expecTing

ID: i have psi, i am the gun!

LL: IDK, I was just CURIOUS.

LL: Oh, shit.

LL: See, that actually makes SENSE!

VA: I dŏ jusT fine wiThŏuT ŏne

LL: Yeah, I was just CURIOUS about why there's a LOWBLOOD channel. LL: I can only see it like HALF the time anyways, I think the OTHER mod keeps kicking me.

LL: Yeah, but, like do you FIGHT people with guns?

LL: Bc if so: BADASS, tbh.

RS: | I have Contemplated Firearms on Occasion |

VA: I mean, I have

RS: | They're very Efficient |

LL: ^^^^

RS: | | Also | Dramatic | Haha |

ID: i fight everyone.

ID: but when you're reaching for your gun you're fucked!

RS: | You can Do All Sorts of Tricks with Them | ! | More Glamorously than With Psi | Hadean | =:P |

VA: BuT I have mŏre use fŏr a differenT kind ŏf weapŏn

ID: i can do anything with my psi that you can do with a gun. =:P

LL: How's that different from reaching for a SWORD?

RS: | Well | Yes | RS: | But When You are Using Your Psionics | There's Always a Bit of a Pause | Isn't It | ? |

ID: depends?

RS: | Can You Spin It Sixty Times in a Minute | ? |

ID: ...depends?

RS: | Er | That is to Say | You Said You can Copy Any Trick with a Gun | With Your Psionics | RS: | And I Sincerely Doubt You can Spin Your Psionics | =:P |

ID: jokes on you. =:P

LL: Psi's pretty COOL, tbh. My ID's got some sick pink psionics going on, they look pretty EPIC. LL: But I'm pretty sure I could get any psion with a BULLET in the PAN before they could crush me with their SPONGES or whatever it is they do.

LL: And, LOL

LL: RS has a POINT!

ID: is that id just. the telekinetic kind? stock psi model?

LL: Are there different KINDS?

VA: LŏTs

ID: ahahah.

LL: Oh, shit. I thought it was just, like LL: COLORS

ID: you innocent teal child.

ID: fuck no!

ID: i can't lift shit with my mind!

VA: I knŏw a guy whŏ can breaThe fire

LL: I mean, I know CERULEANS got weird shit, and CLOWNS have emotion stuff.

RS: | Your ID has pink psionics | ? |

LL: Whaaaat

TC: Fuck clow~s

LL: And I GUESS, RS. They're not, like, PINK pink.

LL: More like magenta?

LL: Does that MEAN something??

VA: Dŏes iT?

ID: fuck if i know. mine are usually just plain ol dark maroon.

RS: | Hahaha | It Means He has a Great Deal of Misfortune | in Both His Naming | and His Colours | =:B |

LL: What's THAT mean?

RS: | The Colours don't Mean Anything | RS: | Mine are White | ! |

LL: Why's that mean he's UNLUCKY, though?

VA: Iunnŏ, because magenTa is a high-visibiliTy cŏlŏr?

LL: Huh! LL: That's TRUE.

LL: ... He, like, works in an OFFICE, though. LL: I'm p sure it doesn't really MATTER.

RS: | Oh | RS: | I knew a Troll | named ID | with Similar Coloured Psionics | RS: | And | He's Dead | That's All | ! | RS: | It's an Unfortunate Coincidence | =:B |

RS: | That's All |

LL: Oh, SHIT.

LL: Man, that's bad VIBES.

RS: | Isn't It | ? | RS: | Yours Sounds More Reputable | Though | ! | Offices are Nice | RS: | Hardly any Culling There |

LL: Besides, ID's just his HANDLE, not his NAME.

TC: Awkward

ID: boringgg.

VA: ThaT is an unfŏrTunaTe cŏincidence

LL: Dude, fake ID, if YOU had pink psi you'd be freaking, don't even FRONT.

ID: offices btw, not culling of friends.

LL: Oh, mb.

RS: | Hahaha | Not a Friend | Thankfully | RS: | And | Yes | But | On Less Superstitious Topics | RS: | | VA |

RS: | and | TC |

TC: What

RS: | What Colour are Your Psionics | ? |

RS: | Since ID and I | have Already Shared | ! |

ID: va is a flatscan.

TC: They do~'t have a color.

VA: I dŏn'T have any

RS: | We are Educating LL | So | RS: | | Oh |

TC: ! just touch th!~gs

RS: | I'm Sorry to Hear That | ! |

TC: A~d the~ they just - do the th!~g

RS: | Oh | The Thing | ? |

ID: ps pheres most flatscans don't like to be told i'm sorry about them being flatscans.

VA: Eh, iT happens

VA: IT wŏulda made wŏrk easier, buT I wasn'T sŏ lucky

LL: Dude, I don't have psi, and it's no big DEAL.

RS: | Oh | ! | Well | Ah |

LL: Besides, don't you, like WRECK with WEAPONS like you were on about?

RS: | I Apologise | VA | RS: | Even if You Don't Mind |

ID: ahahah you're teal.

LL: I still think my guns're LOADS better.

ID: of course it's not a fucking big deal.

TC: ! speed the decay t!me of objects, RS

VA: IT's differenT fŏr lŏwblŏŏds T'nŏT have psii

ID: eww tc.

LL: How's it DIFFERENT?

RS: | If It Helps | My Psionics are Hardly Worth Having | Haha | RS: | They're Barely There | Really | ! | I Spark a Little More than LL | Maybe | =:) |

TC: Shut up !D

ID: man when did it turn in to psionic share hour.

ID: because it is ll. you have value in society other than being a psi.

VA: Because sŏ many ŏf us Dŏ have psii, ThaT Thŏse whŏ dŏn'T are kinda unusual

RS: | When You Failed to Give a More Engaging Topic | RS: | Than the Murder Hour Happening in the Main Lobby |

LL: IDK, I think it's pretty COOL. LL: I didn't even know you could DO shit like mess with TIME.

RS: | =:P |

LL: That's HELLA trippy.

AC: .u. it happens

AC: some psiionics are very strange

LL: Oh, shit, it's the sorry guy.

LL: Hey, what's UP?

RS: | ? | ? | ? |

ID: okay, better subject than psi!

ID: is every loser here going to the fair?

VA: Aye

ID: no nerd history talk allowed in your answer.

AC: Ø .u. the nice weather, there are some very pretty clouds overhead. Ø

LL: NAH, but only to the LOSER part.

TC: !'m go!~g to k!ck AH's ass

AC: Ø I keep trying to find lusus shapes in them Ø

LL: Is EVERYONE gonna go fight?

TC: Yes

VA: I'm gŏnna sell weapŏns and armŏr

LL: And shit, u rite, AC

LL: u rite

ID: wait which one is ah.

AC: Ø I'm going with Pheres Ø

TC: The blue o~e

AC: Ø To help him sell stuff! Ø

ID: oh gliese.

LL: Oh, the one that's got a halberd up her WASTECHUTE.

ID: don't fight gliese gliese is my cheerleader.

LL: Dude, TOTALLY fight her.

ID: i need her waving pompoms for me and shit.

VA: FighT her

ID: ye olde medieval cheerleader.

LL: What if I wave the pompoms?

AC: Ø .n. gosh, everyone always mentions Gliese but I've never met her Ø

TC: !'m go!~g to punch them !~ the gut t!l they vom!t l!ke RR d!d earl!er

AC: Ø maybe that's a good thing though? Most people don't seem to like her. Ø

ID: you don't even know the routine ll.

LL: I can make a BETTER one, DUH.

RS: | Haha | AC | Be Glad |

ID: tc no fighting gliese.

RS: | Was She Dreadful to You | LL | ? |

LL: And idk, AC, I kinda LIKED her until she started being SHITTY for, like, NO REASON!

TC: Shut up !D

AC: Ø Oh, that's too bad .n. Ø

AC: Ø I hope she wasn't too awful Ø

LL: Like I ASKED what her issue was and she wouldn't even SAY.

AC: Ø .n. Ø

ID: seriously. no fighting gliese.

VA: She's jusT anŏTher blueblŏŏd

LL: It's, like, if you're gonna be WEIRD, at least OWN it.

RS: | Oh | That's Unfortunate | I'm Sorry |

TC: St!ll go!~g to f!ght her

RS: | | Hadean | Ah | Are You especially Fond of Her | ? | RS: | I wasn't Aware |

LL: It's NBD but I'm TOTALLY cheering for TC.

ID: i said no fighting gliese. got a problem with it, take it up with me at the fair. and i will dissuade you.

AC: Ø .n. Ø

ID: she fed me.

AC: Ø Um Ø

ID: that buys my loyalty for like. a perigee.

LL: Dude, I will buy you a food TRUCK.

TC: !'ll f!ght you too

VA: Have sŏme mŏre pride

AC: Ø Who's everyone friendly with though? Ø

ID: come at me tc. make sure you can't rot shit ever again.

RS: | Heavens | Am I Expected to Feed You at the Fair | ? | RS: | Because | If So | RS: | I suppose You should Tell Me Your Coffee Preferences |

VA: I dŏn'T mind mŏsT ŏf Th'lŏwblŏŏds I've meT

AC: Ø .u. Pheres makes good coffee Ø

LL: I'm friendly with YOU, I think. >:D And ID, obvi. My ID, I mean. LL: IDK. LL: I guess I'm here to make FRIENDS.

ID: i don't drink coffee.

RS: | Why Not | ? |

ID: does nothing for me.

TC: Fuck!~g come at me

LL: Mine all up and SPLIT or DIED, so I don't, like, KNOW anyone anymore.

AC: Ø .n. that's really sad Ø

RS: | Oh | That's Unfortunate |

ID: i'm telling you to come at me tc.

AC: Ø I really hope you make lots of new friends!! You seem really energetic and fun. Ø

ID: you wanna fight gliese, you fight me first.

RS: | Come to the Fair | and Visit with Maidel and I | RS: | And Hadean | RS: | I am Sure We Can Direct You towards People You are Suited For |

TC: K

RS: | Assuming Hadean is Not Busy Fighting | the Entirety of the Fair |

LL: THANKS, I think!

ID: glad we got that settled!

AC: Ø Yes! Come visit our booth. ^w^ Ø

RS: | Aren't You Saving Yourself for Emerel's Fight | Hadean | ? | Haha |

LL: And HELL yeah. I'll bring you a SWORD and shit, even. LL: Since you all are into that shit.

MN: ;)

AC: Ø .n. you think? I really meant to be nice. Ø

TC: !'ll take a sword

RS: | Oh | ! | Yes | Please Do |

ID: i mean like i need my all to fight punching bag.

RS: | Come Buy a Sword | TC | I sell Hundreds | =:B |

LL: Dude, I only got ONE sword, sorry.

MN: you should dEfinitEly buy a sword from .PHERES.

RS: | | Not Hundreds | I think I Only Have Thirty on Hand Right Now | Actually |

ID: got plenty in reserves to fight tc!

VA: I'll meeT y'all fŏr a drink if y'wanT

LL: 31, now!

ID: and ll if she really wants to fight gliese.

VA: RS are yŏu a blacksmiTh?

LL: Hell no, I ain't fighting anyone unless they take a swing FIRST.

LL: Then I shoot 'em in the HEAD.

RS: | Haha | No | I am Not | ! | RS: | I am |

RS:

MN: whoa whoa whos fighting .GLIESE.

RS: | Um |

ID: great. noted ll.

TC: !'m mak!~g a 'Let's f!ght AH' Group, who wa~ts !~

ID: no one is fighting gliese.

ID: unless they fight me first.

MN: sorry but .I.m obligatEd to bE on .GLIESES. sidE for this onE so

TC: !'ll host the meet!~gs to pla~ !t

RS: | Emerel |

RS: | Really | ? | Haha |

MN: wEll who ElsE will watch star wars with .ME.

ID: yeah he and gliese are star wars nerd buddies too.

AC: Ø .u. those are fun movies Ø

AC: Ø I prefer the books though Ø

AC: Ø So much extra cool stuff! Ø

MN: .I. dont haVE timE for thE books usually

AC: Ø That's fair! I mean, some of them aren't very well written. .u. Ø

LL: What's STAR WARS?

AC: Ø Oh! It's about trolls rebelling against a fake, usurping Empire. .u. Ø

AC: Ø And restoring peace to the rightful one. Ø

RS: | Haha | Well | I Suppose I can't Object to Movies |

LL: Is it, like, all POLITICAL, or is it the COOL kinda rebellion?

AC: Ø It's kind of cheesy, but it's fun Ø

MN: rEally though MN: whosE thE rEal monstEr hErE whEn you brEak it down

RS: | Star Wars is a Film with Fantastic Fashion |

AC: Ø It's super cool! They blow stuff up and there's aliens and it's fun. Ø

RS: | That is What It Is |

MN: hEy .PHERES. wanna cosplay as stormtroopErs

AC: Ø And some of them have really cool weapons and psiionics! Ø

MN: complEtE with aiming skills

LL: I'm there for the blowing up and the ALIENS

LL: FASHION'S alright, I GUESS, but that's, like, not MY thing.

AC: Ø There's lots of aliens. .u. I'm kind of surprised the Empire let a film be made with so many alien characters! Ø

AC: Ø But I'm glad they did, a lot of the aliens are really weird and interesting looking. Ø

ID: i mean i wear a t-shirt and jeans every day of my life so. what's fashion.

RS: | Unfortunately | I am Matching with Maidel | =:( |

MN: it was a timE pEriod whEn wE wErE still ExpErimEnting with moViE ElEmEnts

RS: | But You are Free to Join Us | ! |

ID: except when i'm pheres' booth babe, then i'm wearing. white?

MN: .I.m not wEaring thE dElivEry uniform

RS: | | And | Ah | Hadean | RS: | Don't Forget | I am Dressing You as Well | So | That will Give You Practically a Written Definition of It | ! |

RS: | It Being Fashion |

RS: | Not White |

RS: | | I could Put You in White | Though |

LL: Are you watching at the FAIRE?

ID: i'm fine with not white. =:I

MN: .I. stand by my statEmEnt that whitE sucks

AC: Ø .n. but Pheres looks nice in white Ø

RS: | Hmm | How Pale are You | ? |

LL: White's good if it's the kind that GLOWS at a RAVE.

VA: WhiTe is beTTer fŏr hŏT climaTes

ID: i got plenty of tats. are tattoos fashion.

MN: oh .I. didnt say hE doEsnt look nicE in whitE bEcausE hE doEs

MN: its just a shitty color

LL: Tats are DEF fashion

AC: Ø .u. oh okay - pfff Ø

RS: | White is a Perfectly Good Colour | Emerel | RS: | The Best Colour | Really |

AC: Ø Emerel you're goofy Ø

MN: no it isnt stop that

RS: | But | Thank You for the Compliment | Both of You | =:P |

ID: well pheres i'm partially tattooed.

LL: I'm like 70% sure it's not actually a REAL COLOR.

MN: hE startEd it maidEl MN: with his whitE shirts

ID: so i'm partially always pale.

LL: Like BLACK and WHITE aren't colors, right?

MN: that stick out in thE dark

AC: Ø I guess he did, that's true u.u Ø

RS: | Marvelous | I will Have to Find Something to Show Those Off | Then |

ID: i mean i have them on my chest and back and arms.

AC: Ø Pheres, you started it all, I guess Emerel has a point there. How dare you wear nice shirts. Ø

VA: WaiT, dŏ yŏu have whiTe TaTTŏŏs ID?

MN: wEll that sEttlEs it MN: hadEan is going into this shirtlEss now

ID: well they're not stark white.

RS: | Heavens | ! | RS: | Well | Emerel | Am I at Least Allowed to Wear Terrible Shirts | or | Do I have to Eschew all Shirts | to Meet Your Standards | ? | =:) |

VA: ThaT's a cŏŏl idea. ShiT my nexT ŏne may have Tŏ be whiTe nŏw

MN: wEEEEEll

MN: .I. could answEr that but wErE in public ;)

LL: I think we're making it WEIRD again.

RS: | Hahaha | Not at All | RS: | Why would You Think That | ? |

ID: warning whtie fades like a motherfuck.

ID: you need to get them redone a lot.

RS: | Oh | Hm |

LL: Because MN totally just was like "Bluh bluh my answer is NSFW, bluh," dude.

RS: | Maybe You would be Well-Suited to Gray | Then | ! |

RS: | | I Mean | RS: | You could Interpret It That Way | RS: | If You are Weird |

AC: Ø .u. I like the shirt Pheres had designed for my uniform Ø

VA: I dŏn'T mind

AC: Ø It's very nice Ø

RS: | But I am Not | RS: | And Subsequently Did Not |

AC: Ø I like the red Ø

LL: There was a WINKY FACE!

RS: | Perhaps He Has Something In His Eye |

MN: ;)))

LL: Oh my god, I hate ALL OF YOU. D:

ID: i know a good guy va. if you can stand fish.

AC: Ø .n. I tried, LL Ø

ID: and him wanting you to smoke questionable herbs with him.

MN: wEll you arE thE onE in .OUR. chat so

LL: AC is my bro and the rest of you SUCK.

AC: Ø nooo, they don't suck Ø

MN: nobodys making you stay ll

AC: Ø they just um Ø

VA: I can fŏr The sake ŏf a gŏŏd TaTTŏŏ VA: My currenT guy is greaT, buT he's Teal

AC: Ø are affectionate Ø

AC: Ø they're very nice .u. Ø

RS: | Oh | Don't Run Them Off | Emerel | RS: | I Like Them | They are Endearing |

LL: And hell no, I'm not going to the chat with AH. LL: She wants my BLOOD.

ID: my guy is great, but he does uh. the thing where they do all the pokes with a hand needle. not a gun.

ID: so it takes for fucking ever.

AC: Ø ...I think she said she left? Looking at her last message. Ø

RS: | My Apologies for Causing You Discomfort | LL | ! |

VA: My arm was dŏne ThaT way

VA: Yeah, Takes a lifeTime and a half

RS: | We will Contain Our Japery | in Light of That | =:B |

LL: I mean. LL: There's nobody in that chat ANYWAYS, and I'm trying to hang out with PEOPLE.

MN: .I.m not MN: just pointing out that thEyrE not actually supposEd to bE in this chat tEchnically MN: so if wErE wEirding thEm out thats thEir fault not ours

AC: Ø beep boop I am secretly a robot. .u. Ø

AC: Ø boop boop whirr Ø

ID: looks good as fuck though!

LL: :\

ID: and i find it helps keep them looking nice longer. could just be my opinion though.

VA: Yeah, my arm was dŏne by an ŏrangeblŏŏd guy in a remŏTe area

MN: maidEl why are you a robot

AC: Ø .n. but I like LL, Emerel Ø

VA: Super greaT guy, I hŏpe he's sTill alive

AC: Ø oh I was just um Ø

LL: I USED to have a tat, but I had to get it get RID of.

AC: Ø I was making a joke, LL said they wanted to talk to people Ø

LL: Omfg

MN: thEn MN: likE ll MN: .I. wasnt tElling you not to maidEl

AC: Ø so I was being not a person a.k.a a robot Ø

RS: | Well | I Mean | They're Teal | RS: | I think They are Technically Allowed to Be Wherever They Want | ? |

ID: well that sucks ll. why?

LL: I TOTALLY didn't get that. LL: RIP, AC can't be my bro anymore. D:<

AC: Ø oh, I just - hahah .u. Ø

LL: JK, dude, don't even FLIP.

AC: Ø discriminatiooon Ø

AC: Ø no, I know you're joking .u. Ø

LL: And damn STRAIGHT I can be where I want! LL: Mostly cos I've got INSIDER CONNECTIONS, though.

ID: and it sucks when an artist dies on you va.

RS: | Robots Deserve the Disease of Friendship | Too | LL | =:B |

LL: And I had to get rid of the tat cos it's a huge, like, ID thing.

AC: Ø I know I'm bad at jokes sometimes but I got that one .u. Ø

LL: My line of work gets you on people's SHITLIST, you dig?

VA: ŏhh I see

ID: hahah. did you get your horns shaved down too?

LL: Yeah!

VA: ThaT's ŏdd fŏr a highblŏŏd

AC: Ø .n. did it hurt? Ø

ID: smart if you want to not be recognized.

VA: ŏr waiT, is iT nŏT ŏdd where yŏu live?

LL: Like a grubfucker!

AC: Ø whoa Ø

VA: Really?????

LL: And it's not THAT odd. I'm not the ONLY one I know, leastways!

AC: Ø you must be really tough! Ø

LL: HELL yeah! >:D

VA: Are yŏu dŏing iT righT?

ID: like. horns and sign and bloodcolor are your biggest identifiers!

LL: I mean, YEAH, but, dude, I had a LOTTA horn to knock off.

AC: Ø dang Ø

ID: so if you want to be sneaky you gotta get that shit taken care of.

VA: My rail shaves his and dŏesn'T geT pain VA: Unless iT jusT sTŏps hurTing afTer a while

LL: ^^^^^

LL: It don't hurt to, like shave 'em down a BIT on the regular, nowanights!

ID: i wonder what would happen if i shaved my floating horn.

ID: huh.

VA: His are like. Two, Three inches Tall

LL: First time when you're chopping off like a whole HEAD'S worth's a different STORY.

VA: AfTer shaving

RS: | Oh | It Hurts like Mad | the First Time You Cut Them Off |

RS: | But | It gets Easier After That | ! |

LL: Also, dude, WTF @ floating horn???

VA: I had nŏ clue. I knŏw iT hurTs like hell Tŏ break a hŏrn

ID: what you don't have a floating horn.

LL: Yeah, see, RS gets it!

LL: No, I got a floating MIDDLE FINGER for that HOOFBEASTSHIT.

AC: Ø I'm glad mine aren't too big. .u. Ø

RS: | Hahaha |

ID: i mean others can back up my floating horn claim.

AC: Ø it's true .u. Ø

RS: | He Does Have One | RS: | It is a Psionic Thing |

ID: all the coolest kids have one.

AC: Ø yup Ø

RS: | And | Be Glad | Maidel | ! | It is a Pain | Unfortunately |

LL: What happens when you're ASLEEP?

AC: Ø Big horns look really impressive but I can believe that. Ø

ID: yeah it keeps going.

LL: Or if someone, like, HITS it?

MN: at lEast your horns look grEat .PHERES.

LL: Like with a BAT or something.

ID: man i don't let people hit my horns.

LL: But what if they DID?

VA: Caring fŏr big hŏrns is hard Thŏugh

ID: i don't fucking know.

LL: It's never EVER happened?

RS: | They Do | But the Neck Pain is Awful | And | You can Never Lie on Your Back| For Starters | =:C |

RS: | And | Oh | Thank You | Em | ❤ |

AC: Ø .N. oh jeez Ø

VA: I shŏuld shave mine acTually...If They grŏw mŏre I wŏn'T be able Tŏ reach The Tŏps

ID: it's kinda a hard target. to hit my middle horn and not hit the main pair.

VA: CŏmfŏrTably

AC: Ø that's awful, Pheres Ø

RS: | Shave Them | VA | Before You have to Cut Them Instead | RS: | And | Haha | That's Why I Keep Mine so Short Now |

ID: wait you're supposed to be able to reach the tips of your horns. missed that memo.

VA: IT's easier fŏr me Tŏ care fŏr Them if I can

RS: | How do You Keep Them Polished | Hadean | RS: | If They are Too Long | ? |

VA: LasT Time my hŏrns were Tŏŏ Tall ŏne gŏT snapped ŏff

ID: polish.

ID: do i look like i have time and money for that.

MN: EVEr triEd making a homEmadE brEw

MN: its not that hard

RS: | | Brew | ? |

RS: | Are You Making Beer Now | ? |

VA: ŏh, hŏw dŏ yŏu make a hŏmemade pŏlish

LL: HELL yeah!

LL: Oh, shit, wait, actual POLISH.

LL: Nm, I've only done SUNSHINE.

ID: i don't bother. my horns stay alright?

VA: Sunshine is greaT Tŏ keep hidden away fŏr a bad nighT

RS: | Oh | You should Get Them Properly Polished at the Fair | ! |

MN: no .I. mEant polish

RS: | They'll Look Lovely | Especially Given Your Length |

ID: i dunno. maybe if i have time to kill.

ID: i don't let trolls touch the headgear too much.

ID: since that's just asking for some middle horn fondling.

LL: Omfg

LL: Dude, he's got a POINT.

LL: I bet someone would just, like, try and MOVE it just to see if it GOES.

RS: | Haha | Oh My | RS: | Heavne Forbid They Touch | Your Mysterious Middle Horn |

MN: gEEz go do your own fondling hadEan

ID: it's the source of my power- stop making it weird.

MN: stop asking the horn polishErs to do it for you

AC: Ø I've never gotten my horns polished before. .u. Ø

RS: | Oh | Really | ? |

MN: .I. haVE no idEa what yourE talking about~

AC: Ø Does it really make them look prettier? Ø

LL: Is it ACTUALLY?

RS: | I'll Do Your Horns | at the Fair | Then |

RS: | It Does | ! | I always Keep Mine Polished | RS: | | Oh | And I'll Sand Them | Too | If You'd Like | ? |

ID: what, no it's not actually my power source.

AC: Ø Oh, that's really nice of you Pheres! Are you sure? .u. Oh, um, if you know best! Gosh, I'm just used to the regular scrubbing and bed checks. Ø

AC: Ø I used to think only highbloods sanded and polished them, hah. Ø

AC: Ø Silly, I know. Ø

RS: | | Or | Well | Hm | RS: | We could Actually Gloss Them | That would Look Nicer | I Think | Given the Angle |

ID: do i get horn service too pheres.

AC: Ø ooh, okay Ø

ID: doesn't your booth babe need to look pretty.

RS: | Haha | Well |

MN: damn .PHERES. bEttEr chargE Extra for that

MN: sorry .I.m going to bEat up your booth babE

ID: attempt to beat me up. ftfy.

MN: will beat you up MN: ftfy

RS: | | I suppose | You will get the Full Horn Service | Hadean | RS: | Heaven Forbid | that You don't Look At Your Best | For Your Fight |

ID: great~ thanks. =:)

RS: | | Do I Get to Do the Middle Horn | Too | ? |

ID: i mean i guess that depends if you can handle some weird sensations.

ID: that sounds wrong-er than it actually is.

RS: | Heavens |

RS: | Hahaha | It only Sounds Wrong | If We do not Pointedly Ignore All Possibility that It Could Be Wrong | =:B |

RS: | Do You Spark if People Touch It | ? |

AC: Ø these aren't the wrongs you're looking for. .u. Ø

AA: yrn wrnongs arne in anothern castle. >:} RS: | Yes | Thank You | Sipa | =:B |

ID: it's kinda like a mild constant shock. hi sip.

AA: sup.

AC: Ø Your wrongs have not been rezzed .u. Ø

ID: fair talk. letting rs get all up on my headgear.

AA: lmfao, wow, phrnasing. AA: arne you gonna let him put beads on yrn horns, tho?? AA: b/c he totally used to do that. >:}

ID: what.

ID: no beads allowed my horns are weird enough. =:I

RS: | He doesn't Have the Grooves for Them | There'd be Nowhere to Hook Them | RS: | Unless We Carved Some In | But | That would Take Ages | Also | Brb | Customer |

AA: ... scrnatch that. no beads. you gonna let him carnve them up?? >:}

ID: hell no, i like my rack as it is. =:I

ID: also do you polish your horns sip. my horns look fine right. because i neglect the fuck out of them.

AA: lameee. why such a cluckbeast, dude?? AA: y, y, beforne fights. not, like, in gen. waaay too much of a bothern. >:} and the polish gets in yrn hairn. grnoss.

AA: and lmao. idk, man, they'rne not, like, flaking, rnight?

ID: i have a floating horn, i don't think my horns need more things for people to look at.

ID: note to pheres when he's back, no polish in my hair if you can.

ID: i mean. no? i never noticed them flaking. =:I

AA: idk, dude, ain't nothing wrnong w/ morne shit to look at. AA: it's what makes you stand out, duh. >:}

AA: have you checked if they'rne flaking??

ID: i think i stand out enough in a crowd already. no beads needed. =:P

ID: how do i check for flaking? not like i can reach most of my rack.

TC: !'ll look at them for you

ID: you won't be looking at anything once i'm done with you. hush up.

AA: rub 'em on a trnee and see if anything comes off?? that's what phern used to do. >:} AA: and lmaooo.

TC: Fuck ~o

AA: wow, hads, she's, like, trnyin' to be helpful. way 2bmean.

ID: i'm supposed to fight her so no she isn't.

ID: i don't know where to find trees in this stupid place.

TC: Shhhh let me help !D

ID: fuck off. =:I

AA: haha, shiiit, how many folks you fighting tonight??

ID: i mean i'm fighting them at the fair. tonight is my night off. i even got a hotel room, i get to use an actual shower. shit's gonna be great.

AA: bump 'em on a carnt, then. >:} orn, like, idefk, anything harnd?? AA: but not T O O harnd, you don't wanna snap 'em. AA: unless horn-grnizzled veternan is yrn aesthetic.

TC: !'m go!~g to shove !D's head u~der a horse wh!le !t takes a p!ss

ID: hmm. first attempt seems to result in no flaking and jeesh tc, gross and desperate.

AA: then yrn fiiiiiiine. they look fine, anyway. >:P AA: why arne you wornrnrying abt yrn horns, anyway?? AA: also, lmao, am i like AA: internrnupting, orn is tc just hella nasty? >:}

ID: so nasty.

ID: and because everyone was talking about horns and polishes and shit. =:I apparently i was the only weirdo not spending hours preening every night. so i want to see what i'm missing out on.

TC: Shut up !D

ID: how about no. and you shut up.

TC: Go fuck yourself

AA: ehh. phern's just a weirndo. he polishes his claws, too, dude. you gonna do that? >:} AA: and hahahaha, wowzerns. AA: tc, bb, calm yrn tits. like, spoilern alernt!

AA: but i am p surne he's just not that into you. AA: orn hornse piss. >:P

TC: AA please, !'m ~ot !~terested !~ h!m

TC: ! just wa~t to see h!m scream a l!ttle

TC: !~ horror

ID: is there any part of your body you can't polish? hey, maybe i'll let him polish my claws if he wants. i can look all shiny and new for like. five seconds.

ID: 1, you're weird, 2, not happening.

AA: n, prnobs not. rnoll arnound in oil and polish A L L T H E B I T S. AA: shit, if you ask, he's prnobs got that glitterny shit you dunk yrnself in.

AA: and - did i alrneady say lmao?? AA: bc lmao, W O W.

AC: Ø Glittery? .u. Ø

ID: i'm good without glitter. but hey. a little pampering never killed a troll, right? right.

AA: y. until you end up, like, in white up to yrn frnonds. >:} AA: and y!

AA: glitterny.

AA: like, y'know, sparnklernocks.

AC: Ø I never realized anyone put glitter on their horns, huh Ø

AC: Ø How long does it stay on? Ø

ID: hey, pheres said no white. and hey, get glittered up if you want ac. have to ask pheres for that info i bet.

RS: | Let Me Duck Over Here | However | ! | RS: | Because | Also | There is the Minor Matter of the Fact | RS: | Throwing Someone's Matesprit into a Conversation Erring on Pitch Flirtation |

RS: | is Not a Typical Means of |- DISSUASION -|

RS: | =:1 |

ID: remember she can usually spy in here.

ID: it totally works. what did you want me to say, stop this is icky? because, uh. definitely still fighting him. don't need to give him ammo.

ID: but scout's honor, definitely not pitch for the guy i couldn't even pick out of a crowd!

RS: | You Literally just Informed Me | That It is Entirely Possible to Tell Someone to Back Off | If They are Making You Experience Discomfort |

RS: | Is that Advice You are Evidently Unwilling to Follow Yourself | ? |

ID: someone you are definitely not going to fight, yeah.

ID: unless you want to fight me.

RS: | Yes | I am Dying to Fight You | You have Cracked The Case |

RS: | =:| |

LL: Dude, ID, it just sounds like you were kinda shoving your CARTILAGE NUB where it didn't BELONG.

LL: Like, this is usually the part where you say sorry and CHILL OUT instead of, like, making a weird THING out of it.

ID: thank you for your totally well informed opinion ll.

LL: I mean, I fuck up shit like that all the TIME.

RS: | Haha | Well | She isn't Incorrect |

LL: I don't KNOW you guys really well, and I don't know what HAPPENED

LL: So maybe PHERES needs to chill, too.

LL: But I'm saying GENERALLY.

RS: | I am Afraid You are Now Less Correct | =:P |

ID: well sorry~ and as for what just happened earlier. i tried to keep my flap closed and you encouraged me! so.

LL: I might be TOTALLY wrong, idk. LL: You guys just seemed kinda way more CHILL earlier, and you're both cool dudes.

LL: So I dunno why it has to be a BIG DEAL.

RS: | It is Not a Big Deal | RS: | I am Not Particularly Affronted | I am Merely Curious | as to What Hadean's Motives are In His Behaviours | That is All |

RS: | And | I Accept Your Apology | Although | I Encouraged You | RS: | Because I Was Not Expecting You to Actually | RS: | | Well | ! | I Thought We were Playing | Joking | Japing | That is All | =:1 |

ID: nope, that was definitely me trying to be nice and keep my flap shut.

RS: | | If You are Trying to Keep Your Flap Shut | RS: | Perhaps You should Not Say | That You are Actively Trying to Keep Your Flap Shut | RS: | Usually | We Simply Keep Our Flaps Shut |

RS: | No Need for Narration | Unless You are Orpheo |

ID: i like narration! and is orpheo the dumpster troll.

LL: He's TOTALLY the dumpster troll.

RS: | Yes | Haha | He is the Dumpster Troll |

ID: do i. want to know why others call him weeds.

RS: | Probably Not |

LL: I mean, guy that talks like THAT, he probably smokes BALES.

ID: well that's a lovely mental image.

RS: | Oh | Come Now | Smoking a Bale is not Historically Accurate |

RS: | I am Sure He Grinds It into a Fine Powder and Puts It in A Pipe |

ID: is that a thing you can do?

RS: | I do not Have the Faintest Idea | Haha | ! |

LL: That is

LL: NOT how you do it.

ID: damn ll you need to teach us clearly.

LL: lol

ID: in case i ever. want to see how well getting high works i guess.

LL: I mean, if you're freaking PULVERIZING IT, you're losing half the good shit! LL: Unless you're the kinda weirdo that goes licking it off the PESTLE, I guess.

ID: heavens forbid.

LL: Shit, I confused which RUSTBLOOD was TALKING for a sec.

ID: how dare you! =:P

RS: | How Very Dare You | =:P |

ID: it doesn't help that we have the same emoticons.

LL: No, dude, keep going, I bet you could do a NUTTY Pheres impression.

ID: i think me and pheres have had enough conflict for the night.

LL: Fair ENOUGH, dude.

ID: besides, pheres is like. one of the three or four trolls on here that hasn't threatened to kill me or wanted to hear me scream in horror or shit so i should be nicer!

LL: Duuuude, wtf?

LL: Don't people come to chatrooms to, like, MEET people to HANG OUT with?

LL: Why is everyone, like, FIGHTING and shit?

ID: i have a charming personality. =:P

LL: I dunno, man, you seem pretty COOL to me!

ID: and told tc no killing gliese. which has forever put me on her hitlist i guess.

LL: Oh, RIGHT, I remember that. LL: I don't get why GLIESE is all het up at me, neither, but I don't want her DEAD.

LL: She's just some RANDO on the internet.

ID: i dunno. something about you and calling the jades fakers. maybe she has a jade quad or something.

RS: | He does have a Charming Personality | And | Oh | She probably got Het Up on Emerel's Behalf |

ID: yeah they do seem close.

RS: | He does Like to Go On about How Unusual Jades Are | RS: | So | She likely Felt Offended at the Implication of | | People Faking Their Caste | ? |

LL: LOL

LL: Dude, I've TOTALLY done that before.

LL: It gets you IN places!

RS: | I should Clarify | Hadean | the Charming did not Hold Scarequotes | RS: | Despite Your Many Slights |

RS: | | Should You Admit That Online | ? | Haha |

ID: good to know because i was about to offer to not show my face around you at the faire.

LL: Pffft LL: I mean, it was FOREVER ago. LL: If you wanna call the COPS on me for something I did as a WIGGLER, go ahead, but I bet I got more cop friends than YOU. >:D

LL: Oh, shit, WHAT?

RS: | What | ? | No | Of Course You Should | RS: | Why wouldn't I Want You at the Faire | ? |

ID: because i'm a jerk?

LL: No, dude, we're hanging out and I'm buying you, like. FOOD and shit like you wanted. LL: You can't go avoiding PHERES, though, cos I'm chillin' with him, TOO.

RS: | Oh | You're Aggravating | But You're hardly a Jerk | RS: | And | Besides | I like Sipara Perfectly Well | And | Compared to Her | RS: | You are a Perfectly Docile Meowbeast |

ID: well i mean if food is involved. =:P can i have like. four of those giant gobblebeast legs. those are a thing at faires right.

LL: Dude, if it FITS in you, you can have it. LL: I have, like, WAY too much cash rn, idgaf. LL: Bring your HOLLOW WALKFROND.

ID: and well. yeah. fair. I'm not so aggro i put it right in my tag though! so sip got me beat there.

ID: sweet. =:D jokes on you like 75 percent of me is hollow.

RS: | ! | ! | ! |

LL: Between the floating HORN shit and the weird PSIONICS, I am only like 50% sure you're shitting me, here.

RS: | Congratulations | LL | RS: | I am Fairly Certain | That is the First Time I have Witnessed | an =:D smiley |

ID: oh so if i'm not a stock model psi i'm weird i see how it is.

ID: =:P at you pheres. food'll make anyone smile.

LL: Omg

LL: I made HISTORY, apparently!

LL: >:D

RS: | =:) |

LL: That SUCKS about Gliese, though. LL: Should I, like, TELL her I wasn't calling that guy a FAKER? LL: I was just saying WHAT IF cos people were on about how it was even POSSIBLE and shit. Doesn't mean nothing to me either WAY if a jade's a dude or even a JADE in the first place.

ID: don't let it go to your head. =:P

ID: uh protip: don't defend why you said things when you're apologizing.

LL: Too LATE, dude, my horns already GREW BACK.

RS: | Mm | I would Advise Against Telling Gliese Anything | RS: | But | If You really Wish to Get on Good Terms With Her |

RS: | Just Say that You're Sorry | You were Wrong | and Do not Focus on the Details |

ID: 'sorry, but-' conversations just end in more fighting. so yeah.

RS: | And | Then Move On | While She is Basking in the Feeling of having Socially Bested You |

RS: | She'll Forget about Her Ire | Soon Enough |

ID: yeah definitely do it where others can distract from the conversation.

LL: I guess that makes SENSE. LL: Then how do I know not to do it AGAIN, though?

RS: | Mm | ! |

LL: If I don't ASK.

LL: Not that she wanted to ANSWER, I guess.

RS: | | Ah |

RS: | Just | Watch What She Says | and Make Sure You only Agree With Her | ? | ? |

LL: I mean, I'm gonna just do what you SAID. LL: You guys got your shit resolved really NEAT-like, so you probs KNOW better.

LL: What, like about EVERYTHING?

LL: I don't care THAT much about her!

RS: | Not on Everything | She doesn't Get Aggressive over Everything | I Don't Expect |

RS: | Just the Things that Send Her Off into a Froth |

RS: | I don't Know | I Make Lists | Usually | of Contentious Topics | for the Individual | RS: | You could Do That | =:/ |

ID: no talking about faking or jades.

ID: should cover it.

LL: Ugh. LL: I guess I can TRY that, but if she starts getting WEIRD about shit then I'm gonna STOP.

LL: ID's thing sounds less hard to keep TRACK of.

ID: making a list of topics to avoid for everyone in the chat sounds like a pain pheres.

LL: ^^^

ID: but then i like. can barely remember most of their names so i guess i'm a shitty judge.

RS: | Not for Everyone in the Chat | Haha | RS: | Or | Most People in the Chat | Just | Quadrants | RS: | Close Friends | Enclades |

RS: | | Although | Making Ones for Chat Members does Seem Wise | RS: | Now that You Mention It |

RS: | You should Tell Me about Your Pet Peeves | The Both of You | Right Now | =:P |

ID: is your clade big or anything then? what about you ll?

ID: jeesh pheres put some trolls on the spot.

LL: LOL

LL: Mine's pretty SMALL! I just got my best guy and my moirail.

LL: Clydes ain't IN chats like this, though, and ID's the MOD.

LL: And, uhhh

RS: | No | Emerel's Kismesis is Gone | And | He never Let Me Meet Him |- Anyway -| RS: | So | He doesn't Count | Haha | Sipara has Her Ever-Rotating Kismesises | RS: | Riccin is an Old Clademate | But | Ah | The Rest of Them are Dead |

RS: | So | I don't Have to Keep Track of |- THEM -| Anymore | Haha |

LL: I get pissed off when people mess with my PEOPLE! LL: And when they get shirty and then get all CAGEY when I ask what their DAMAGE is. :\

ID: ll a lot of trolls in this chat are gonna annoy you.

LL: Gdi

LL: It's cool, YOU guys can be my bros. LL: And, like, that MAIDEL person.

LL: They're pretty cool.

ID: i cannot for the best of me remember which one maidel is.

ID: dr?

LL: The GREEN one that always says sorry! LL: Olive green, not JADE.

RS: | Oh | ! | Yes | Maidel is Practically Clade |

RS: | She is the Olive Green | Yes | Haha |

LL: Man, there's a lotta sorry GREENBLOODS around.

RS: | It's a Part of the Caste | I suppose | ! | RS: | The Ones outside of the Caverns are not a Very Confident Lot |

LL: Makes SENSE, I guess, if you grew up under a ROCK.

LL: CAVE, whatever.

ID: i kinda avoid talking to her. she seems so easy to set off. and then she leaves and that's no fun for her. =:/

LL: I mean, she should learn to DEAL with it better, then! LL: Like it doesn't matter how NICE people are, they're gonna say something shitty EVENTUALLY.

LL: So you gotte be able to CALL 'em on it or tell them to fuck OFF.

LL: Or have a quad to do it FOR you.

RS: | Oh | ! | Ah | RS: | He is Easier in Person | to Anticipate If He is Upset | ? |

RS: | He is just Very Shy | Mostly | But | Haha | Yes |

ID: i mean i agree but yeah. figure it'd be easier in person.

LL: He??

RS: | | I've been Looking for Her Quadrants | Actually | RS: | I think It would Do Her Good for Her Self-Esteem |

RS: | And | Confidence |

RS: | | He | ? |

ID: you called dr a he. and then a she. confused ll i think.

ID: also ll refresh me on what your name is.

RS: | Oh | They Switch | ! |

RS: | I am not Sure | the Particulars | ? | So | I just Switch | as the Inclination Strikes |

LL: That's CONFUSING as hell.

LL: But WHATEVER, I guess.

ID: means i can't call him/her the wrong gender i guess.

LL: Oh, shit, u rite

LL: Maybe it's LESS confusing, then. >:D

RS: | Hahaha | It is a Socially Fool Proof Strategy | on Her Part |

ID: ll. hand over the name. unless you prefer ll.

ID: but then at the fair people will think your name is ellell.

RS: | If You Prefer LL | That is Fine | Of Course |

RS: | Hahaha |

RS: | One of the Fellows Who Runs It | is Named Elilah |

RS: | LL would Fit Right In | =:) |

LL: Ellell sounds pretty RAD, but I'm BONNIE.

LL: And everyone keeps typing LL all LOWERCASE so it looks like II, ANYWAYS.

ID: bonnie. alright. bonnie is a nice enough name.

LL: Nice ENOUGH? LL: Damn, I SEE how it is! D:<

ID: it's no hadean. =:P

RS: | Hadean | Shame on You |

LL: LUL

RS: | Clearly | Bonnie is at Least A Name | of the Top Five Tiers | RS: | Perhaps the Top Eight | ? | At Least the Top Ten | =:) |

ID: aww i'm just joking pheres. bonnie isn't really offended! i think.

RS: | Below Pheres | Of Course | RS: | But | We can't All Have the Best Name |

ID: how do you even pronounce pheres.

RS: | | How do You Think It is Pronounced | ? |

LL: Dude, my skin's not THAT thin, don't even lfip.

LL: FAIR-iss?

ID: fear-ease?

LL: Or, like, feh-ree.

RS: | Close | Haha | ! | RS: | It is | Fuh | like | Furnace | RS: | And then | Reese | like Breeze |

ID: huh. okay. is bonnie like. bunny with an o?

RS: | But | You should Use Fair-Is | RS: | It is Easier to Say |

LL: I'm like 90% sure there's only ONE way to say Bonnie.

RS: | | Isn't it Bonnie | as In |

RS: | She is quite a Bonny Lass | ? |

LL: Yeah!

ID: hey sometimes people have weird ways of saying their name even when it looks easy.

LL: Shit, I lied. It's totes actually, like uh LL: BONE-AI

RS: | Bone Ai |

RS: | Well | It |- IS -| Six Letters |

ID: well then how do you say my name?

RS: | The same Way that Bonnie Does | I Imagine |

RS: | Ha | as in Laughter | RS: | Dee | as in | Ah | Dice | ? |

RS: | Awn | like Dawn |

ID: nah. but that's how like. everyone assumes i'm sure.

RS: | =:? |

RS: | How do You Pronounce It | ? |

RS: | Is It a Standard Name | ? |

ID: i mean what's standard when it comes to names.

RS: | Oh | No | Standard | As In | RS: | Central Continental Standard Alternian Common Dialect |

RS: | You Know | Standard | Haha |

LL: Wait, is that NOT how you say it?

LL: HADEAN, I mean

ID: like...

H as in hi, long a like. base. d as in dye. a as in about. and an n. like. no.

ID: like. hey-de-an?

ID: it's easier to just say and have a troll repeat.

ID: also sorry for the pause, was ransacking the snack bar in the room next to me.

RS: | Hopefully | They weren't In It | at the Time | Haha |

RS: | Hadean is a Pretty Name | Though | ! |

ID: nah, most trolls have cleared out. probably to parties and their loved ones or whatever.

ID: pheres is a nice name too. is the fuh-reese way you say it?

SA: haydee-in, bonny, phair-Rees, was how I was reading them until corrected. You all have such different names.

ID: well what about you sa? what's your name?

SA: I don't remember my assigned name. I go by Prisma.

ID: ...assigned name huh. okay. prisma it is.

SA: don't most trolls have their names recorded by the cavern matrons?

ID: i mean most people don't call them assigned? i don't think?

SA: oh. I apologize, I'm not very familiar with the terms. I am very forgetful.

SA: Hadean?

ID: yeah that's me.

RS: | Oh | I got Distracted | My Apologies | That is How I Say My Name | RS: | And | Hm |

RS: | I don't Know If Names get Assigned | ? | I never Thought About It |

RS: | you Just | You Know | Have One |

SA: I see.

SA: So where did your names come from? Did you just know them at the front of your mind?

SA: That sounded rude, i apologize.

ID: don't lusii do that shit.

SA: I was mostly going off of Pheres's statement.

ID: i dunno. i just know i have a name and it rocks.

LA: I LIKE MY NAME!!!

SA: Who are you?

LA: MYSELF

LA: DUH

ID: oh god it's in here too.

LA: AHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

RS: | Oh | I never Asked | RS: | I Grew up in a Hivestem | Haha | ! |

RS: | So | People have Always Used My Name |

LA: IT'S ARISTE

SA: Ariste.

SA: I like this one.

SA: I see... That sound different, RS.

LA: SOMEONE HERE HAS GOOD TASTE LA: IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!

RS: | Heavens | You're Enthusiastic | Aren't You | ? |

RS: | And | Haha | Is It | ? | RS: | Where did You Grow Up | ? |

LA: ABOUT WHAT???

RS: | | Everything | from the Sounds of It | ? |

LA: NO I'M PRETTY CHILL TODAY

SA: I meant I liked the name. But the enthusiasm is acceptable too.

SA: I grew up... elsewhere.

SA: It was very private and isolated.

ID: elsewhere is ominous as fuck.

LA: WELL MY NAME IS AWESOME SO I CAN FORGIVE YOU

SA: I was raised on a colony. Is that a less ominous answer.

LA: WAS IT AT LEAST A FUN COLONY

ID: barely.

LA: IS YOUR NAME SA NOW

SA: Ariste thinks it could be fun.

RS: | What Sort of a Colony | ? |

ID: ariste has the intelligence of a sponge.

SA: I don't know how to explain it. I don't recall most of it, either. It was an experimental colony. Scientific.

SA: I suppose that is "fun" in a way.

ID: /oh/.

LA: HOW DO YOU KNOW ID

LA: YOU'VE KNOW ME FOR 20 MINUTES

SA: my name is Prisma, LA.

LA: DO YOU READ MINDS

LA: PRISMA

LA: RAINBOWS AND SHIT

LA: THAT'S COOL

SA: I am clairvoyant and telekinetic.

LA: CONGRATULATIONS

SA: I don't read minds. I simply know things.

LA: I WAS ASKING IF ID READS MINDS THOUGH

SA: i msiread, I apologize.

RS: | Oh | ! |

RS: | I Think You are Our First Telekinetic |

RS: | Congratulations | Haha |

ID: nah i don't read minds. but i can sense idiots.

SA: do all of you have psionics...?

LA: DUH

ID: i think so.

LA: WHO DOESN'T

ID: plenty of trolls.

LA: OOOH ID SENSES IDIOTS LA: SO DO YOU SENSE EVERYONE OR WHAT

SA: i like this.

ID: nah, being around you is like trying to spot the stars when the sun is out. your stupidity blocks everyone else.

SA: LA, I think they were being facetious.

RS: | Yes | I think So | ! |

LA: I THINK THEY'RE BEING CUTE

RS: | Er | To the Fact We All have Psionics |

RS: | Not to the Idiots Thing |

ID: i'm fucking adorable as shit.

LA: COME HERE AND LET ME PINCH YOUR LITTLE CHEEKS

ID: how about no.

LA: AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

LA: CUUUUUTE

SA: what are you psonics, RS?

SA: look at them. they're bonding.

RS: | Presently | I suspect They are My Ability to Marvel at |

RS: | Well |

RS: | Everything in Here |

RS: | Haha | =:B |

RS: | | Ah | No | But | I can Teleport | ! |

SA: Teleporting... That's an admirable psionic.

ID: marveling at how weird la is you mean pheres.

LA: YOU SURE ARE HUNG UP ON HOW WEIRD I AM

LA: HOW OLD EVEN ARE YOU

LA: LIKE 2

ID: sure, i'm 2.

LA: COOL

RS: | Yes | Yes | That is What I Mean |

RS: | Haha |

RS: | | And | Oh | I don't know If I'd Call It Admirable | ? | It's just a Thing |

RS: | Telekinesis is So Much More Useful |

LA: IT'S ONLY AS USEFUL AS FAR AS YOU NOT GETTING HIT FROM BEHIND GOES

ID: can you teleport far?

SA: But many psions I've met don't have it. It is unique.

SA: My telekinesis is very weak, right now.

SA: I'd rather teleport.

RS: | Ahh | Define Far | ! |

ID: like. out of sight.

SA: could you jump blocks that way?

RS: | Oh | ! | Probably | Um | RS: | I can Go Up to Fifty Feet | I think | And I've Gone Farther | But |

RS: | It's not Ideal |

RS: | Haha | Too Tiring |

LA: WICKED!!!

SA: are there any risks associated with it?

LA: WHO CARES LA: I'M IMAGINING WHAT KIND OF SWEET AIR YOU'D GET WITH THAT!!

SA: and how many sweet broken bones could be received.

AA: | | No Broken Bones | ! |

LA: NOT IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING

RS: | And | Um | Not Really | ? | Nothing More than the Usual | ! |

ID: the usual, that's comforting.