#is certainly not free of problems in any way whatsoever (especially and unfortunately in dany's own plotline and character development)
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#in the original story azor ahai's wife willingly gave her life so her husband could become the hero #it's something we've seen many times in stories: the woman dies so the man can be the hero #(it's not a feminist story but that does not make azor ahai a villain) #but daenerys mercy kills drogo #she is not doing it to become a hero but because it's cruel to let him live a vegetative life (and rhaego was an unintentional sacrifice) #and unlike the typical story here the man dies so the woman can be the hero #also re azor ahai being a villain because he killed his wife to forge lightbringer (the sword that saved humanity): #i saw people theorizing that jon will kill dany to forge lightbringer like azor ahai did with nissa nissa (the same story being told again) #yet no one says that this would make jon a villain #unsurprisingly the “azor ahai is a villain” comes only when daenerys is considered being azor ahai (via @mikastormborn)
From time to time, I see some people argue that Dany can't be Azor Ahai because Azor Ahai was a man who killed his wife and such a character can't be considered a hero. So Dany couldn't be Azor Ahai because she is a hero and because such a feminist character like Dany can't be associated with Azor Ahai.
I agree that Dany is a hero, and I agree that Azor Ahai killing his wife is not the most feminist story. But I disagree with the idea that this means Dany isn't Azor Ahai, because literally all the foreshadowing points to her, she fulfills every aspect of the prophecy. Just because we as readers might think there's a moral dissonance in Dany being Azor Ahai, doesn't mean that she isn't. Whether we as readers might not like her being Azor Ahai, whether we think it's not feminist for Dany to be Azor Ahai, it doesn't change the fact that GRRM wrote all the clues pointing to her.
Also, while some people may argue that it's not feminist for Dany to be Azor Ahai because the original Azor Ahai killed his wife, other people might argue that Dany being Azor Ahai is a feminist subversion, because everybody expects the prophesied hero to be a man.
#those prev tags exactly. exactlyyyy#also re the question itself as laid out in the original post:#it's a wildly bizarre criticism of a theory to say that ��it can't happen because it would be “bad feminism” if it did"#y'all remember this is grrm right? this is asoiaf? which while remarkably feminist compared to many other high fantasy epic stories#is certainly not free of problems in any way whatsoever (especially and unfortunately in dany's own plotline and character development)#an argument like that is basically saying “it can't happen because i don't like it and people would criticize it”#and thus is utterly nonsensical and illogical when it comes to judging the actual text and the way grrm has written and is likely to write#(mind you i've seen that same argument re multiple theories/speculation ranging from ships to potential rulers to historical reveals#so dany is no exception alas. but it never stops being a terrible illogical and nonsensical attempt at “theory busting”)#asoiaf#asoiaf meta#valyrianscrolls#daenerys targaryen#azor ahai#nissa nissa#feminism#fantasy tropes#fantasy#tropes#oh fandom#queue and me we're in this together now
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