#it works in s12 bc like I said before he hasn't seen her in ages and the last time he saw her she was like soo helpless and like
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Lloyd vs. Avatar Harumi has done irreparable damage to me !!!
#like the way that he still thinks there's a chance with her would make sense here !!! he thinks he can fix her !!!#he hasnt seen her since her death so he has faith in her being able to change !!#but then in crystalized its like. he shouldnt trust and try to appeal to the person organizing a council of villains to destroy shit#like theres such an interesting contrast between the way they wrote Avatar Harumi and Lloyd vs. Harumi and Lloyd#it works in s12 bc like I said before he hasn't seen her in ages and the last time he saw her she was like soo helpless and like#she was scared too#so the first chance he gets to see her again itd make sense hed try to appeal to her a bit more#and it makes sense that she would blame him for dying to the bulding because shes a simulation based on lloyd's own feelings#ofc hed feel guilt for 'letting her die'.#that DOESNT work in s15 tho bc she KNEW he was too far to do anything at all#ninjago#raine's rambles#hoipe this makes ANY sense at all..
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