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thegodcomplcx · 4 months
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i dont know, as someone who likes eleven i still have a hard time recommending it because like. a lot of the hate is less about The Guy and more about steven moffats bad writing. and i think the loud misogyny and heterosexism of elevens era is a huge thorn in its side and i understand why it would be disproportionately disliked (although i know a decent portion of people are also turned off by the Cringe 2010s Geekcore vibe of eleven which is a superficial but not unwarranted reason for dislike)
idk i guess what im trying to say is i dont necessarily Blame people for overwhelmingly disliking elevens era (but i do think that propping up rtd era as the pinnacle of doctor who by comparison is woefully stupid)
i just think its crazy that people will frequently say "eleven's era is rife with misogyny and therefore i can't recommend it and it's objectively badly written" and no one ever says (for example): "ten's era is rife with racism and therefore i can't recommend it and it's badly written"
and i'm not saying anything to the truth of those two statements, only that you hear that the thing about eleven all the time and while i've heard people complain about ten's racism, i've never seen someone say they don't recommend you watch him based on that. also. steven moffat also wrote during nine and ten's run. all of the flaws in his writing are present in RTD era as well. every era of doctor who has it's problems but suddenly eleven is the unwatchable one. okay.
this isn't to say i don't think there are valid reasons to hate eleven (or even, that you need a reason. being a hater based on vibes is fine and encouraged). i would just respect a lot of people more if they could say "i just don't like the vibes" rather than saying "this an objectively bad era" or "this is objectively worse than RTD who"
and! i do think some ppl are committing the sin of not being a REAL HATER and they hate 11 just cus a bunch of other people hate him
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