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#members decided to screenshot one of my posts where i said 'ppl need to accept that their gods arent inherently good' but accidently
snekdood · 1 year
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Vaush almost seems manipulative in the way he talks about religion, like i feel very strongly that he doesn't actually think religion is *quite* as bad as something like toxic masculinity but he wants his audience to feel that way, so he keeps drawing comparisons between religion and all these other fucked up things like antisemities or whatever, to give the impression to his audience that he genuinely thinks its that serious, and knowing how a lot of ppl can be in his audience, whatever vaush thinks they decide to take as like the best most intellectually and well thought out take ever, no self analyzing, no questions asked, and i feel like hes manipulating that fact to his advantage, he literally said in his debate w oceankeltoi (which i wasnt gonna watch but did eventually bc i heard vaush kinda sucked in it (and he did)) that hes okay with using peer pressure to try to discourage people from being religious. It seems like hes going to try whatever he can socially to like. Shun anyone whos religious or any of their beliefs and is probably even totally okay with ppl bullying religious ppl so long as the social pressure gets people to stop. Which. Uh. I feel like i shouldnt have to say is a pretty fucked up philosophy
#you are already putting too much work to control ppl just existing#social. political. systemic. wherever you're putting this energy to control it will only end badly.#anyways this whole stuff kinda made me look at him in an entirely different light.#i think hes become too convinced hes always right and has got really into his ass. idk if hes changed since that debate tho bc#i stopped watching him for a while even before it#the problem w that debate is that vaush is doing the thing where hes actually debating the beliefs of certain audience members#whereas ocean is actually just trying to debate him specifically w/o changing the audiences mind quite as much#oceans here trying to understand vaush and vaush is just here to try to make ocean look stupid. not actually understand or come to a#mutual understanding or literally anything. idk. but its pretty frustrating how he devolved to JUST doing that in debates.#hes decided religious ppl are evil or whatever and thus refuses to meet ocean on an equal and respectful level. theres so much lack#of respect here.#i also sorta feel like vaushs 'what about those ppl who think their gods are always in the right' thing was bc perhaps one of his audience#members decided to screenshot one of my posts where i said 'ppl need to accept that their gods arent inherently good' but accidently#typed are instead of arent and idk. maybe its a reach to decide thats why he brought that up but yknow. i do sometimes feel like yall#(hi vaushs community whos probably stalking me online bc i used to be in the community and you think im cringe bc i love#my main boy shiv)#well. ig obviously i feel like some of yall stalk me to poke fun at me and prolly posted that in his discord or smthn#idk but. its gotta stop if its happening bc im literally just some guy#I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I DONT THINK VAUSH IS ABUSIVE BC IDK HIM LIKE THAT AND CANT MAKE THAT CLAIM#just bc someones being manipulative does not make them ABUSIVE which is a whole different and bigger step towards Bad
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failbaby · 3 years
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I have a real life tale of Homeric Epic proportions for you all. I do not condone the actions of anyone in this story
My senior year of high school, I was entrenched in a preposterous scandal between two of my friends.
Guy 1 was this completely indescribable, sexually ambiguous, utterly ridiculous little xc/debate club twink who was an armed libertarian leftist, HYPERfixated on working class history, and VERY intelligent but so hyperactive and deliberately loud/obnoxious that all of our teachers hated him anyway. He called me “Rosita Bonita,” and was accepted to Princeton and CalTech but was going to a mid-tier school nearby because he didn’t want to leave the mountains. 🥺
Guy 2 was an extremely easygoing, widely-beloved football player with a FIANCÉ he’d been with for 3 years (religious people in small towns get engaged young) who was a devout environmentalist and was planning on going to trade school in Italy after graduation. No real reason, he just thought Italy was dope, which I respect. 
Both good guys, both weird
We were all the same friend group (me, the dudes, the fiancé, & several other ppl), and those two were really close. Like if I was slightly more heterosexual I would say “bromance.” The summer before senior year, those guys, another friend of ours, and the fiancé went on an educational environmental science trip to Peru, where they, like, hiked around and camped out in the mountains. I don’t know or care what they were supposed to be learning about the environment up there, I just know that they split their little group of 4 up into a boys tent and girls tent, and these two boys who the Lord God put on this earth to play high school sports started fucking each other in tents in the rocky mountains of Peru.
Which would normally be like, okay, so what, Rose, why are you telling me these dudes’ business, but you have to remember that the second dude had a fiancé, a female fiancé no less, who was on the trip and was sleeping just a few yards away from where these boys were fucking each other. And this is where it morphed into everyone’s business
My friend, the only member of their little group who was not involved, called me from a hotel one night when they’d gone back down out of the mountains and into a town (and thus had cell service again), and she was like, “Rose, you need to help me.”
And I was like “What? What’s wrong?” Panicking, because my four dear friends were very far away in a weird mountain town and I had no idea what could possibly have happened
And she goes “I think that [guy 1] and [guy 2] are having sex, and I don’t know how to tell [fiancé].”
This is news to me, because I was previously SO sure that guy 2 was straight. I was like “I really think you’re losing it”
So we talked it out a little bit and decided that the high altitude was getting to her, and our friend wouldn’t cheat on his fiancé, who he really loved, and our other friend wouldn’t sow division in our close-knit group like that
School started back up however long after they got back, and things were just like. Completely normal for a while, and then after like a month of the whole thing being forgotten and under the bridge, guy 1 becomes overwhelmed with guilt and decides to tell the fiancé that he was in fact fucking her beloved in the Peruvian mountains.
Now, this was a MAJOR blow to the law, serenity, and order of our group, as im sure you know if you’ve ever been involved in a situation where a member of a friend group was cheating with another member of a friend group. All of my friends are very progressive, so it was much more about the cheating and lying than the fact that they were both men, but I would be wrong to say that that was not also a concern, because it came so completely out of nowhere. We were all blindsided (except for my friend, who I had accidentally gaslit into believing this wasn’t happening and she was going crazy from mountain air 🤪)
So. This is where it gets wild
Guy 2 takes the logical path out and decides to just lie and say that this never happened at all. Like, he straight up denies everything guy 1 is alleging.
I don’t know why he did that. You should never lie about something if the other person has screenshots, which guy 1 did. He had screenshots like you would not BELIEVE.
And he IMMEDIATELY took to the public Internet, which my mother uses, with these screenshots.
A lot of people had heard rumors about this by now, because these guys were both athletes and guy 2 was like “popular” or whatever, so it just kinda gets around. Guy 1 decided to feed the people and send the screenshots to the school gossip IG acct (“____ high school tea”), and of course, the person running the page was THRILLED to have such top-tier content so early in the school year, and it was all posted for their 1,188 followers to see.
The screenshots told a story that ran much deeper than two dudes fucking each other on a field trip. I had initially kind of assumed was just a “gay-for-the-stay,” messing around kind of thing, but there were screenshots of texts from guy 2 about getting MARRIED, telling guy 1 that he was his SOULMATE, telling him he “set my heart to flame,” “I love you more than anything,” etc etc., and, most notably, a picture of guy 2 in the act of SUCKING GUY 1’s DICK. Some of these things dated from WEEKS AFTER they got back from Peru.
So, it was clear to me that guy 1 AND the fiancé both felt (justifiably?) extremely fucked over by guy 2 at this point. The previously-airtight group was on the verge of collapse, as all of us had been dragged into this conflict between these 3 mfs. The girl called off the engagement.
Guy 2 wrote a notes app apology to the entire school claiming he had dissociative identity disorder and blaming the entire affair on his gay alter ego. Then he wrote a sad rap begging his fiancé to get back with him.
But the most insane part of all of this is that, since guy 1 AND guy 2 were both 17 when the explicit pic was posted on “[redacted]hstea,” the POLICE got involved. Guy 1 was investigated on CHILD PORNOGRAPHY charges for a picture of him getting his own dick sucked by a peer, as was guy 2, AS WAS the person running the tea account.
(This tea account had ruined lives, so when her identity was revealed, she literally transferred schools within like a week. Or maybe she’s in jail idk)
The charges were dropped and the boys were let off with a warning, because like. From a legal standpoint, who cares, but we All had to go to an internet safety assembly run by cops where they lectured us for two hours about not taking nudies, and EVERYONE was looking at me and my friends, because even though we had nothing to do with it, they KNEW we were affiliated with the defendents, and that was enough for them
Then guy 1 shot out the back window of guy 2’s car, which was the catharsis of the whole event, and it effectively blew over within another month or two.
Our group was split in half by loyalty (we joked and said guy 2 and his fiancé were like our divorcing parents), and I did not see those two in a room together for SEVERAL months, but then there was one weekend in like February that we all got together like old times (except for the fiancé who had moved on to a better man, as she should), and we were talking about going to a party with some of guy 2’s football friends, and guy 1 was like “I’m not gonna do that. You know what they say about me.”
And guy 2 tucked guy 1’s hair behind his ear and said with ZERO hesitation, “But you know I won’t let anything happen to you.”
This is a completely benign interaction, but imagine being me, witnessing this after 8 months of general social hell, child pornography charges, ruined friendships, Megan is missing assemblies, THE most dramatic breakup I’ve ever seen in my life and subsequent SoundCloud raps, shot out car windows, and a fake DID diagnosis, ALL because guy 2 wanted to avoid allegations of gay behavior. For WHAT.
Anyway coronavirus happened and idk what’s going on with them now and I don’t care but that’s my villain origin story
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Hey for the ask thing, all the questions you're comfortable with answering
oh boy!!! heck yeah fun shit thanks my dude! little did u Kno…… I LOVE oversharing !!! lmao muahahahahaha i’m probably gonna answer all of them thank u for enabling it lmfao
1. Do you ever doubt the existence of others than you?
yah on Rly Bad days
2. On a scale of 1-5, how afraid of the dark are you?
like… 3.5? i like the dark but,,, ‘m Scare,,,,,
3. The person you would never want to meet?
Orange Turnip
4. What is your favorite word?
it changes tbh,, hm but i can’t think of any rn!
5. If you were a type of tree, what would you be?
i’d be….. a nice oak! thicc and full of secrets
6. When you looked in the mirror this morning what was the first thing you thought?
i didn’t lmao reflection what’s that
7. What shirt are you wearing?
i’m wearing the dress i wore to work
8. What do you label yourself as?
annoying or boring lmao but also the Goblin King and that is Good
9. Bright room or dark room?
i still don’t know if this is referring to like paint shade or like the amount of light it gets or like if i sleep in a bright room or dark room so like??? *shrug emoji*
10. What were you doing at midnight last night?
i was?? drawing i think
12. Who told you they loved you last?
i think it was @wrenn-frug​ 💕💖 lov u fren!
13. Your worst enemy?
dunno man probably myself but that sounds cliche so like??? the sun bc it always burns me
14. What is your current desktop picture?
a screenshot from song of the sea!!! lOVE that movie!!!! i’d post it but like?? i don’t think i have it saved anymore or if i do i don’t feel like looking but it’s that one scene where they’re walking thru the pretty field towards the trees and there’s foxes in the corner and she’s playing the shell it’s so pretty,,,,,
15. Do you like someone?
uh yah my cat
16. The last song you listened to?
Young God - Halseygood song lov it,,,,
17. You can press a button that will make any one person explode. Who would you blow up?
oraNGE TURNIP
18. Who would you really like to just punch in the face?
orange turnip my dude i Hate
19. If anyone could be your slave for a day, who would it be and what would they have to do?
uh nobody ????
20. What is your best physical attribute? (showing said attribute is optional)
my squishy thighs and my fantastic stretch marks (which have taken me YEARS to accept)
21. If you were the opposite sex for one day, what would you look like and what would you do?
No
22. Do you have a secret talent? If yes, what is it?
????????????? secret???? talent?????? lemme check, ,, , , *reaches into a bag* nope bitch empt y aint got No Talent lmao
23. What is one unique thing you’re afraid of?
okay so like this is really dumb and i partially answered this in this ask abt the flushing toilets @ night thing but like to elaborate and make it even more dumb not only am i afraid to flush toilets @ night bc it’s just rly creepy and loud to me (esp if i’ve been asleep) but like,, , sort of in the same vein of fear is that when i was little my older sister told me that there was a ghost in the toilet and if i don’t flush it’ll get me and like i kno it’s not tru but like,,,,,, Sometimes,,,,,, (i must clarify i’m not scared of toilets themselves but like flushing freaks me out sometimes like @ night or if i don’t flush fast enough lmao don’t look @ me i’m a mess)
24. You can only have one kind of sandwich. Every sandwich ingredient known to humankind is at your disposal.
Excuse? is this like that i can ONLY eat this sandwich or is it that this is the only sandwich i can ever eat or like i can only ever have one last sandwich bc honestly i’m Not Okay with any of those scenarios no matter how many ingredients i get for the initial creation
25. You just found $100! How are you going to spend it?
Dream daddy dating simulator lmao uh?? also probably more food for archie bc he is Expensive
26. You just got a free plane ticket to anywhere in the world, but you have to leave immediately. Where are you going to go?
Ireland probably. always wanted to see ireland
27. An angel appears out of Heaven and offers you a lifetime supply of the alcoholic beverage of your choice. “Be brand-specific” it says. Man! What are you gonna say about that? Even if you don’t drink booze there’s something you can figure out… so what’s it gonna be?
“Even if you don’t drink booze there’s something you can figure out” like???? no???? if u don’t drink alcohol why would u want a lifetime supply??? unless i could like…. sell it??? whats the Most Expensive kind i’ll just get an unending supply of heavenly Expensive Alcohol to sell for incredibly inflated prices to the rich bc it’s From Heaven and give the money to the poor bc like,,, why not
28. You discover a beautiful island upon which you may build your own society. You make the rules. What is the first rule you put into place?
bitches gotta keep they damn opinions to themselves if they can’t respect somebody’s life based on factors they can’t help (race, religion, orientation, gender etc) also no money like We Don’t Need It i’m so tired of Needing money
29. What is your favorite expletive?
Fuck bc u can use it in So Many situations
30. Your house is on fire, holy shit! You have just enough time to run in there and grab ONE inanimate object. Don’t worry, your loved ones and pets have already made it out safely. So what’s the one thing you’re going to save from that blazing inferno?
o shit probably the twenty dollar metallic watercolors i got bc shit son??? actually probably like my laptop or smth idk
31. You can erase any horrible experience from your past. What will it be?
my childhood thx
32. You got kicked out of the country for being a time-traveling heathen who sleeps with celebrities and has super-powers. But check out this cool shit… you can move to anywhere else in the world!
this is.. not a questionalthough it is a wonderful scenario
33. The Celestial Gates Of Beyond have opened, much to your surprise because you didn’t think such a thing existed. Death appears. As it turns out, Death is actually a pretty cool entity, and happens to be in a fantastic mood. Death offers to return the friend/family-member/person/etc. of your choice to the living world. Who will you bring back?
none of them bc if the celestial gates of the beyond is real then all the people i’d want to bring back are probably in a Better Place or something and why would i want to drag them to Hell?
34. What was your last dream about?
Cannot remember to save my life altho i kno it was rly weird and convoluted
35. Are you a good….[insert anything you’d like here]?
u did not put anything Here so i will Ignore
36. Have you ever been admitted to the hospital?
Nope
37. Have you ever built a snowman?
yAH it’s fun!
38. What is the color of your socks?
not wearing any
39. What type of music do you like?
A Lot
40. Do you prefer sunrises or sunsets?
Sunsets,,, evening is so nice mm m
41. What is your favorite milkshake flavor?
chocolate ayyyy
43. Do you have any scars?
a couple but like for Dumb Reasons
44. What do you want to be when you graduate?
I’ve graduated hs but i wanna be an animator when i decide which college to go to
45. If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?
my brain pls bartender can i have a Healthy One (correction to favorite word #4: fav word currently is deign)
46. Are you reliable?
i would like to think so
47. If you could ask your future self one question, what would it be?
are you happy?
48. Do you hold grudges?
YAH but only if i’ve been Pushed Too Far which is Pretty Damn Far by most ppls standards
49. If you could breed two animals together to defy the laws of nature, what new animal would you create?
none I am Not a God
50. What is the most unusual conversation you’ve ever had?
i have had So Many???? the most recent one was two times in a row random ppl i barely knew asked me for my netflix account bc they didnt have one and like…. bro what who R U,,,,, (i had literally only talked to the first guy once for ten minutes on fb)
51. Are you a good liar?
is the sky green? don’t think so
52. How long could you go without talking?
Very Long but like Only on Bad Weeks
53. What has been you worst haircut/style?
None my hair is Magnificent (idk)
54. Have you ever baked your own cake?
like birthday cake? never but i lov to bake cakes so like i bake myself cakes all the time
55. Can you do any accents other than your own?
i am so bad @ accents i can’t even Read in my Head in accents even though i know what the accent Should Sound Like
56. What do you like on your toast?
peanut butter and banan slices
57. What is the last thing you drew a picture of?
working on a picture of a tiger redraw
58. What would be you dream car?
a Bike bc i Do Not Like cars
59. Do you sing in the shower? Or do anything unusual in the shower? Explain.
i only sing in the shower when nobody is home (which is infrequent bc my mom is Always here) bc i am self conscious around most ppl but like Music,,,,, also when i was little i would pretend that i was standing in the rain all sad like in movies lmao
60. Do you believe in aliens?
yah
61. Do you often read your horoscope?
i follow an astrology blog and i read homestuck i mean,,
62. What is your favorite letter of the alphabet?
i??? A maybe bc there are a lot of ways to write it pretty idk but like specifically capital A ig
63. Which is cooler: dinosaurs or dragons?
Dragons they’re fire-breathing friends and i love them
64. What do you think about babies?
Gross
65. Freebie! Ask anything interesting you can think of.
U Didn’t put anything Here either so like how abt i give u a random fact abt myself that seems good my favorite bird is the lammergeier bc they’re basically irl dragons and they’re so pretty??? love them??? also i hate monkeys and apes esp chimpanzes bc they are scary and too much like humans to me i don’t like them
BOY that took way longer than i thought bc i had to feed my cat halfway thru and everything and like this is a Long Post sorry guys but ayyyyy this was fun thanks ari
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