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[redlightning1]

Hi writer of [An AI in Talokan].

The Story is mainly a Nashuri Fanfiction but it's mostly Namor, Namora & Attuma. Learning the history of Earth before Wakanda Forever. Or just a MCU Recap.

But I am not sure What should I include and not include.

I already wrote recaps of :

Captain America: The First Avenger

Captain Marvel : Part 1

Iron Man

Iron Man 2

Thor

The Incredible Hulk

The Avengers

Iron Man 3

Thor : The Dark World

Captain America : The Winter Soldier

The one I haven't done yet :

Guardians of the Galaxy

Guardians of the Galaxy : Vol 2

Avengers : Age Of Ultron

Ant-Man

Captain America : Civil War

Black Widow : Part 1

Doctor Strange

Black Panther

Thor : Ragnarok

Ant-Man & the Wasp : Part 1

Avengers : Infinity War

Ant-Man & the Wasp : Part 2

Captain Marvel : Part 2

Avengers : Endgame

Black Widow : Part 2

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings

WandaVision

The Falcon & the Winter Solider

Hawkeye

Doctor Strange & the Mutiverse of Madness

Thor : Love & Thunder

I left some out, for example.

The Eternals & MoonNight & WereWolf by Night.

The SpiderMan Movies were not told because no one remembers Peter Parker.

[Spoilers for Ant-Man & the Wasp : Quantumania]

I also decided not to include Ant-Man : Quantumania. Because in the End. Scott said he wasn't going to tell the Avengers about what happened.

So I don't know what should include and not include.

If anybody has any ideas, please let me know.

[stxleslyds]

The idea is not in the final book Anon. It is not canon!-That wasn't the point being made at all. The point was that the original story was meant as a one off. This was true up till the printing of the final comic. They changed their minds after and made changes to the trade. This was all canon at the time. It got retconned after. UTRH was not planned to change anything or start any new story lines. It was a one shot and the popularity of the character made them keep him alive.

"Already a Moonnight fan, why are you bringing up a comic that was never printed. I talked about the original print at the time the story was coming out comic by comic. You made a statement about all the things UTRH Jason was meant to do and what you were supposed to have but no those weren't the plan at the time. There wasn't a plan. You weren't supposed to have anything. Which was why you didn't get it and authors did whatever they wanted with him and you had wildly different versions."

"Like sure the original author wanted to explore certain ideas with the character. But the company had no plans for Jason to be anything but an antagonist at that time. So getting mad at what Jason is because of "what he was supposed to be" is just not an argument with weight. The character was ""supposed to be" the BTFC version and the Countdown version and the Morrison version. And he was written as dumb at times then too aka the Tim Jason fight over the kid gangs."

"An idea was started by one person. But we have no idea where that idea could have ended. There were reports that Outsiders was originally going to have Nightwing be Jason working with Batman. I never said how we arrived here was good. I never said you can't dislike it. Just that this is where we are and talking about what the character would or wouldn't do based on their first appearance when so much has changed is talking about a different character and different time not applicable to now."

Anon.

I wasn’t here in 2005. I have no idea what the original print looked like. I rely on what I have. If I read it online there is a last page with a rainbow mist and then another with several Batmen yelling Jason’s name. My trade on the other hand has ONLY the misty page.

If Jason became popular, good for him. Judd Winick wrote him in everything he was writing at the moment so he was obviously excited about his work. If Jason really died at the end of UtRH, fantastic. And if he died and wasn’t meant to come back, well, he sure came back and that’s what we have to show.

I brought up MoonKnight to end this conversation. We think differently, I talk about my DESIRES and you come back with “what you want was never meant to be”, yeah, I know. They are my desires built from the Jason that was initially.

The company goes where the money goes; they didn’t think someone like Red Hood would be liked by the readers but they got they asses handed to them. When they decided to write him back into comics, they didn’t know what to do with him. Every writer took him and said “I will build my very own character with this Red Hood template, no one will notice!”, but we did notice, and we can be mad at it despite years having passed by.

When I say he was “supposed to be” I mean that the first idea of the character sent a very defined path that could be developed, but for the sake of money and poorly written events we got none of it.

I don’t know how to make it clearer; I don’t want to keep having this conversation, we are both talking to walls.

I have seen those ideas, and they sucked, I am VERY glad they didn’t make the final cut. I am just sad that instead of building from what was already there, DC and every writer decided to deconstruct Jason and Red Hood so they could all have different characters at their service.

It is not Red Hood, but you sell it as such, knowing perfectly well (at the time) what the readers wanted to see.

And they knew what people wanted because when the animated movie was done, they got Judd Winick as the writer and everything. They KNEW, they wanted money and that was that. After the UtRH animated movie came out and everyone was excited about that Jason we, in comics, got Lobdell.

This is my perspective, you have yours, I won’t talk about this further, sorry. I am glad that you are a Moon Knight fan though, he is fucking great, reading about him has put me in a certain mood about what we could have had with Jason if DC stopped fucking around and gave us a Jason that kills again.

And NO, I am not comparing these two characters, Jason has nothing on Marc.

Have a nice weekend Anon.