#society if torna wasn't a bumch of nihilistic assholes....

[ultrakatua]

Xenoblade 3 end game spoilers and severe Jin brainrot

Ok so stuff like "she didn't want eternity, just a moment with you" and "If the world cannot change, then we'll destroy it" (paraphrasing, I play in French) are obvious Jin callbacks but I'm personally obsessed with the parallels between the Lost Numbers and organisation Torna. The Lost Numbers are the orga Torna of 3! 

inb4: “But user ultrakatua, Torna are bad guys! The Lost Numbers are good guys”. Yeah yeah, obviously. But bear with me.

The soldiers in XB3 are Blade-like in more ways than one. In the “real world”, they are humans yes, but in the context of Aionios, they are born from core crystals (literally their data in the Origin are stored within core crystals, as you can see when you reach the Theater right at the end). Add to this their Blade weapons and of course their cycle of death and rebirth, their immortality at the cost of their memories, the stagnation it creates, and so on. They function the same as Blades in 2, but without Drivers.

Now, the Lost Numbers are people who are living outside this cycle, labelled as terrorists by the Moebius. They are stealing these "Blades" in order to free them from the cycle in turn... Well, I guess you see where I’m going with this: that’s exactly what Torna was doing. A bunch of Flesh Eaters who are freed from their Drivers and stealing core crystals so they cannot be used by humans.

In Xenoblade 3, the first time they show you that room where they keep the "cradles” (both inside the castle and in the City), all I could think of was the room inside the Marsanes where Torna keeps their stolen core crystals... inside cradles as well. Visually they are very similar, both evoking the image of a beehive. Granted, that’s still a common SciFi trope, but I still don’t think it’s a coincidence.

Monica states she won't awaken the soldiers until she can give them the life they deserve, much like Jin was against using the Blades he had saved as canon fodder/soldiers to his cause (stated by Nia).

Well, of course even if #JinDidNothingWrong he was also a nihilistic genocider and a definite antagonist in 2 (sorry nobody's perfect 😔), which I'm obviously not contesting. In the context of 3, destroying the world is a good thing, which was not the case in 2 lol

But with regard to the Blade stuff and Amalthus, Jin was correct and I never felt like the game ever tried to tell you otherwise. That was part of the appeal of his character, right. His corruption came from his nihilism and his inability to conceive a future, and not from his ideals. Those parallels in 3 really cement it.

Anyway, that’s probably the most “Xenoblade 2″ aspect of 3 for me. It’s not just a neat reference, but it builds on the lore and the characters from 2.

Why the fuck does Amalthus have a landmark in the City though