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MGSV: Awakening vs Truth (Differences)
I got curious and wanted to compare the differences between the Awakening vs The Truth Mission. Wasn’t sure how best to format it, so it’s just side by side caps and my explanations. Obviously, the biggest changes. and differences, come with the beginning scenes and the end scenes. (Cut scenes in the middle escape the hospital section are almost completely identical, as is the main tutorial you’re given)
In Awakening, shortly after waking up, the doctor asks you to recall your name, and your birth date.
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You’re then prompted to enter it.
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And choose your ‘face’.
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This bit is skipped over entirely in ‘Truth” Instead, Venom wakes up, freaks out, gets put back to sleep. The next time he’s ‘awake’ is when he’s shown what happened to his body. This is also present in “Truth”.
After this, Venom panics, and is once again sedated. This is true in both. The next time Venom wakes up, the Doctor and Nurse are in an argument he cannot understand. In Awakening, they’re shown arguing.
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Venom hears, but doesn’t comprehend.
In “Truth” He is able to understand their conversation, so you are given dialogue properly.
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After this, the Doctor brings Venom the photographs. In Awakening, you can briefly see the text written on the back.
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He does not let Venom grab the photographs. So the player and Venom cannot see what is written there. It’s too blurry.
In Truth, Venom grabs the photos, revealing his own self, and the message on the back.
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While this is happening, Quiet is garroting the nurse. She’s visible in both versions, doing this.
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In Awakening, she’s shown a little coming up behind the doctor. However, the mirror blocks her after a second or two of visibility.
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Caps don’t show this, but she’s covered up faster.
In Truth, she’s visible for longer.
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She’s shown more clearly here.
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Here, the scenes are identical with almost no change. Ishmael’s dialogue for ‘getting our of here. come on, move it’ sometimes alters a bit, but not enough that it’s really anything significant I find.
After Big Boss and Venom escape and crash the ambulance, we cut to Venom waking up alone in Awakening.
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Here, at 3:07 am, he looks over and notices that the seat originally occupied by BB is empty, and he’s alone.
Venom crawls free, and is soon rescued on horse back by Ocelot, after which the two of them escape.
in Truth, we get it from Big Boss’s perspective.
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Big Boss wakes up first at 2:32am and is pulled from the wreckage by Ocelot. There’s a gap of time until we cut back to Big Boss and Ocelot saying goodbye at 5:59am (Why they didn’t just make this 6am on the dot idk but WHATEVER)
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Since he rescued Venom at 3:07am, we can assume Ocelot took care of Venom, fought off Volgin with him, prepped him for the days to come, and left him on the Heiwa Maru. Then rode DHorse back to Big Boss to say goodbye to him, before returning to Venom and the Heiwa Maru to leave port for their trip.
The final scene in Awakening is Venom and Ocelot on the Heiwa Maru, en route to Afghanistan.
The final scene in ‘Truth’ is Venom, ending with him going off to complete the mission he’d die in (video here)-Operation Intrude N313, 1995. Where Solid Snake kills him. As per Metal Gear 1.
There’s also a post-credits dialogue of Ocelot and Kaz at some unknown time discussing the truth. I have a video of that conversation here.
Truth also has the unique opening-right after the chopper crash in 1975. We see Kaz and Big Boss, with the latter being worked on by the doctors. This is from Venom’s perspective. and nobody notices he’s there until Kaz actually points him out.
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That’s about the only differences I’ve noticed myself. This post was also completely unnecessary save for my own amusements.
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Hi, probably weird question, but can you offer any tips on how to co-write, like two different authors working on the same fic? How does that work?
hello there is actually nothing i would rather do let me give you the unabridged version because I think people romanticise it and it's important to be real. I'm going to give you all of my experiences and why I did it and which ones worked and which ones didn't.
HERE IT IS :
2-Let's start with @greenvlvetcouch who was my first duo writing experience. I was heavily part of an online thing at the time and I met him there, and we somehow (I genuinely can't remember how but I think it was me) ended up DMing about something, which actually pretty quickly evolved into me throwing a concept idea into the chat, and it just took off. We ended up losing our minds over the library scene from God Eater and that was that. I had read Zar and Jude's fic where every 15 min they switched (I think??) and I'm not a "minute" writer so I suggested to Green we did 700-1200 words each and pass it back. I also have a background in theatre, and I am part of a improv group in my city so improv games was part of my curriculum and I've always LOVED IMPROV GAMES, especially in small groups. (this is relevant for later). That's how God Eater was written. it happened very organically. We wrote it all in four months, in a doc, and didn't talk about publishing it until we realized that actually it was going to be a thing we were super proud of, that we would want to post it. The writing experience itself had none of the stress of "what if it's bad". We just wrote until we were done with no expectation. There were a lot of inconsistencies we fixed when we were done and TA-DA.
Since then Green has been a writing partner for a lot of published and unpublished works. We have several projects, some which we started and never finished because we lost the interest, some that we might publish, we don't know. I think he and I are aligned on the fact that writing is meant to be this fun thing and if the joy isn't there when writing, then the project dies. We had a LOT of really cool fun projects that only lived inside our mutual DMs and I think it still makes them real and great. They just weren't tangible enough to see the light of day. Green and I's writing process isn't *super* involved. We rarely fangirl over each other's works. I think we've reached a healthy balance of we *know* we love each other's writing, so we don't need to tell each other that. We will when a line slaps particularly well but other than that we mostly just hype the story up which is our way of saying we love working together.
Which is a perfect segway into inthesquare and I's writing process (hi I still don't know if I can tag you so imma send it to you after).
2-I'm currently writing a story with her, and our start was very different. I read this fic from hers and lost my mind. I cried and was very upset, it was such a great story, so I left a comment (as one does). What would you know, a few days later I get a comment on my fic about how she freaked out because she liked *my* work. So we literally met the most organically way possible: through ao3 comments. Then the normal pipeline happened: Tumblr, then Discord, then Whatsapp.
I wrote one fic that felt very much like something she would do and asked her to participate and add bits and bobs, she said yes, I was overjoyed. And then a few months ago I popped in and was like... *you like myths, right?* and TADA we have the amaranth hymns.
The writing process with us is very different. We each write until we're done with a scene (which usually ends up capping at 1500/2000 words-ish). We are posting as we go, we have 0 plan, zero foresight, we're just hoping for the best, rocking with a Pinterest board and voice noting each other at 3am going "hey do what was this thing you wrote and what does it mean?" "oh cool" "and so does this mean that X? Cuz we need to Y then" "Yes, right". We're problem solving as we go, and I think we're both kind of unbothered and unstressed about it: the story will write itself, we're just along for the ride. We also don't really hype each other up (a little ya know, when a line slaps), but we *do* talk about the fic itself a lot, which I think is our way of showing our engagement. We talk about the fic because we like writing it (I have a point to make later on bear with me).
3- You remember how i LOVE improve games, right????? WELL. There is a game called the "yes" game. A scene starts, you have a theme and a concept and you can't backtrack. Whatever the person throws your way you have to work with it....hence the "yes". You can only move forward, never back. That's how Raise Hell was created. I asked a bunch of my friends if they wanted to create a frankenstein fic, some said yes, some said no, and Raise Hell got started. I knew all of these people beforehand, so that made it easier. We still want to finish this fic but ya know, life got away from us.
What ended up happening is that there were no "writing" rule aside from : you must write enough to propel the next person. Give the next person *something* to work with. So what accidentally ended up happening is each person ended up writing a chapter.
Now let's talk about the rest:
As stated before, I love writing with people: I have the bandwith to work on numerous fics at once (it keeps my brain fed and entertained, I like the community of it), I like it, and thus I seek it.
But I think (and THIS is my point) that people romanticise it and it can stress people out. This is what I mean:
I started writing fics with several other writers because *I like it and I seek it and it brings me joy*, but some writers didn't like feeling like they were one in a lineup.
I wrote 30k with a writer and then the story died and we never picked it back up.
I have had two people I was writing with tell me they didn't like it because I wasn't 'involved' enough (by this I think what they meant was that I wasn't showing enough hype and enthusiasm for their writing).
I had one person tell me that our writing didn't match up and it felt weird and they didn't want to continue.
I have had one person tell me I hurt their feelings because I made them feel like their writing wasn't good enough by the way I edited.
I think it's important to mention that co-writing *is* a skill and it's not something that will work for everyone.
I have a graveyard of fics and a few friendships that died because of that, too. I'm not a big hyper. I do edit a lot. I show my enthusiasm in ways that perhaps isn't obvious enough. I don't praise other people's writing that much because in my mind, the fact we're writing together is proof enough that I love their writing, but that actually isn't always enough.
And I think the difficult part of all of this is that writing is a very personal endeavour. When you expose your guts to another person and they do not react the way you want them to, it's not very easy I think to say "Hey, you hurt my feelings because you didn't tell me you loved this and that". That's another layer exposed and because talking about hurt feelings is hard and uncomfortable, sometimes it will drag on and take proportions that lead to broken friendships.
So you do have to be careful.
...But I also don't know how, in the sense that *before* you start writing with someone, you won't *know* how they will react to the duo process.
What I'm saying is it' a gamble and actually I have lost more than I have won, BUT I still don't regret trying. I personally have had good experiences every single time. I have grown and I have learned.
I know for instance that writing with Green and Inthesquare is a great experience because we approach writing in the same way and we are all very confident in our own writing. We like how we write. We like how the other person writes. We know that, we don't feel the need to say it.
But I think I tend to forget that some writers (even really good ones!!) can feel self-conscious about their own writing and need more praise than what I give.
So bearing all that in mind here is my advice:
-Talk about what you need from the experience BEFOREHAND. How much hype, can I edit, how much editing can I do, etc etc. When green and I edit our works, we fully destroy each other's parts. We will go in and add and remove a LOT, to the point where it really becomes kind of undetectable, who wrote what, because we're in each other's lines everywhere. This isn't something that will feel good for everyone. When I write with inthesquare, we *barely* edit each other's work. The separation is much more obvious, and I don't really know why this is? It just is? We just kind of never edited the other person's part. And it works really beautifully, too. My point is these are two very different approach yet there isn't one better than the other, it's just different.
Some people do not like when you tinker with their writing too much. Some people do not like when you tinker with their writing at all. Make sure you know what each person is comfy with.
-Decide on a plan: are we writing each for a set amount of time? Of words? Are we each doing a chapter? The only rule is the one you make up.
-Don't put pressure on the work. See where it goes. If it dies, let it.
-I would advise against posting as you go if this stresses you out. That way if the story doesn't finish, no stress.
-Start with someone who you feel very confident writing with. Someone you know, who knows you, where the communication canals are OPEN. You're gonna need to be able to tell each other if someone does something that wasn't appreciated.
Not all co-writing will end up with a fully fledged fic. Not all co-writing will end up being a good experience. If the person you really want to write with doesn't want to write with you, don't take it personally. It just do be like that.
But I'm the kind of person who really has come to love it, and while I'm a lot more picky now with who I write (because I'd love to like, not lose more friends), I think I will always seek it out, especially with the people with whom it's been a success before. I love, love, loveeeeee writing with my friends. I find it so rewarding and fun and great and I have nothing bad to say about it. I just really, really love it.
And if you've made it till here just know I have ONE fic I wrote with 2 other writers that we published under anon. and it's just out there. Doing its thing.
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So I've been flying a lot recently and there's been some turbulence, but every time it makes me think of blue line and Will (I'm pretty sure will) and how he hates turbulence when flying. Basically whenever there's turbulence ona flight I now think of blue line and how much I love it!
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You are absolutely right, anon! Will…hates turbulence. Like. Hates. It. I’m sorry there’s been anything except fabulously calm flights for you, so this happened because your message was very nice and everyone knows how much Will hates turbulence. 
“Scarlet, I need you to move your elbow, like, two hours ago.”
“We weren’t on this plane two hours ago.”
“Yes.”
Will glared at him, eyes narrowed and jaw almost obviously clenched, and Killian tried not to sigh too loudly, far too aware of the head on his shoulder and Ariel had slept the entire goddamn flight – even through the turbulence.
There was a lot of turbulence.
Enough that there’d been some kind of proclamation from whoever was in charge of air-traffic proclamations and they couldn’t fly home that night.
Killian was not pleased.
Will still looked kind of terrified.
“You’re going to do damage to your knuckles,” Robin pointed out, slumped in his chair on the other side of the aisle and Ruby’s limbs were everywhere. She’d unbuckled her seatbelt at some point, which might have been at least three quarters of the reason for Will’s white-knuckled grip on the arm rest, and they’d been sitting on the tarmac for what felt like several days.
Killian was going to dramatically sigh himself to death.
Maybe then Ariel would get her head of his shoulder. He was only slightly worried she was pinching a nerve. Or twenty.
His whole body hurt, bumps and bruises and one very solid check that earned that rookie in Minnesota two minutes, and they’d been on the road for over a week, a string of games that felt far too long, particularly when they weren’t winning any of them.
They hadn’t won any of them.
Arthur must have set a record for whiteboard damage.
He was probably pacing in the cockpit.
And Killian really just wanted to go home and see Emma and Matt and they hadn’t actually told anyone anything else yet, but thinking about that made his heart doing something absurd in his chest and he really hoped it was a girl.
He kept telling Emma that.
It made her laugh.
“Shut up, Locksley,” Will hissed, pulling Killian back into the moment and the general frustration of a team that was probably not going to make the playoffs. “This is—“
“—An overreaction,” Ruby mumbled. She didn’t lift her head off Robin’s knee, voice just a bit muffled by league-mandated dress pants, but Killian was fairly certain she still managed to glare at all of them at once. “And you are talking way too loud.”
Robin hummed in agreement. “Screaming more like. Sometimes I wonder who’s the actual child in this hockey family. Gives Matt a run for his money.“
“Yeah, that’s super funny, Locksley,” Will said. “Did you not feel what was going on before? They tried to fly us into a hurricane.”
“Eh,” Killian argued, and he’d apparently moved his body too much if Ariel’s not-so-quiet grumble was any indication. “Sorry, sorry, Red,” he added, shifting further into his seat, but that didn’t help the pinched nerve or the bruise on his left hip. He really wanted to make out with his wife. “Go back to sleep, Scarlet’s just whining.”
“Too late,” Ariel sighed. Killian groaned when she pressed the heel of her hand into his thigh, propping herself up, and she looked vaguely traumatized by that. “Oh shit,” she gasped. “Shit, shit, shit, Cap, did that hurt? Did you get hit?”
“We just played a hockey game against a team that had one of the worst starts to its season in, like, ten years.”
“Is that supposed to be an answer?”
“He’s saying Chicago was pissed about how their season went,” Robin explained, and Ruby had sat up, but her legs were perpendicular over his now and they were all far too comfortable with each other.
“And that meant they had to try and kill Cap?” Ruby asked.
Killian rolled his eyes. “No one was killing anyone and there were no hurricanes involved in anything that happened tonight. It is March.”
“There can be hurricanes in March,” Will said, but he was met with several different types of laughter and something that sounded like an actual guffaw out of Ariel.
“No, there cannot, Scarlet,” Robin said. “And Henry just took Earth Science, like, two years ago, so my meteorological knowledge is unquestioned.”
Will did not looked convinced. He still hadn’t let go of the armrest.
“We have been on this plane for hours,” he grumbled, huffing loudly and crossing his arms and it was a pretty spot-on impression of Killian’s two-year-old kid. “And the whole thing shook. That was…that was not fun.”
“Scarlet, were you freaking out?” Ariel asked, a distinct lack of humor in her voice. Will flushed. “Oh my God, you were, weren’t you?”
“No.”
“No?”
“No.”
“Liar, liar, liar,” Ruby muttered, and Killian glared hard enough the he felt like he was disciplining all of them. Ruby laughed at him. “Dad face.”
“That’s not a thing.”
“I promise it is. Emma does it too. But, you know, the mom version. It’s super cute. Also, the word you were all looking for before was nor’easter. So, clearly, I’m the one with the science degree.”
“You do not have a science degree,” Robin said, hooking his chin over Ruby’s shoulder and it couldn’t have been comfortable when she shrugged in response.
Will groaned again – a mess of limbs and emotion and the absolute, deep rooted fear of turbulence that even a decade in the NHL hadn’t been able to shake. “God, I hate all of you,” he sighed, snapping his jaw when Ariel tried to reach around Killian to tug on his very loose tie. “Leave that alone, A. I don’t need to choke before all the air pressure gets yanked out of this cabin.”
“That is not how air travel works,” Killian reasoned.
“Do not try and dad me, Cap. It’s not going to work.”
He opened his mouth to disagree, something about he wasn’t dad’ing anyone, whatever the hell that meant, but Killian absolutely knew what it meant and he was far to busy answering his phone to care about anyone on a plane that seemed as determined as Arthur to set several different, equally frustrating, records.
“Did you have that on the whole time?” Will shouted, jumping up and Ruby mumbled something about seat belts, Scarlet under her breath. He flipped her off.
“Whoa,” Emma muttered. “I was not entirely prepared for the parental advisory on this conversation.”
Will blushed again, lips pursed and breathing heavy, and Killian wasn’t sure if Ruby or Ariel was laughing louder. Arthur yelled from wherever he’d been pacing. And probably breaking whiteboards.
Killian widened his eyes. They were still at the restaurant – chairs on the tables behind her and he could just make out a clearly sleeping Dylan hitched over Eric’s shoulder while he tried to stack stools on top of the bar.
Henry and Roland were quite clearly playing hockey, the sound of what might have been an actual puck hitting against the wall and it was a wonder they hadn’t done permanent damage to the walls yet.
“Are they hitting my walls?” Ariel asked sharply, but Killian brushed her off and his heart was doing that stupid pounding thing again.
A girl. They were definitely going to have a girl.
“No parental advisory, Swan,” he said, smiling despite the pinched nerve and whatever Ariel was asking and how freaked out Will was by several normal meteorological activities. And maybe Killian had kind of hated the turbulence too. “Just Scarlet being irrational. Par for the course.”
“Yeah, that’s kind of what I figured.”
He couldn’t quite hold back his laughter – Robin shaking underneath Ruby when he nearly cackled a few feet away – and Will looked vaguely scandalized. “That’s rude, Em,” he mumbled. “A hurricane. They wanted to fly into a hurricane.”
“I don’t think that’s what it was called.”
“Told you,” Robin said. “Thank you, Emma!”
She grinned, eyes impossibly green and hair practically shining in the dim light of the restaurant and Killian was a giant, sentimental sap, who thought even more absurd, sentimental things when he hadn’t kissed his wife in a week.
His pregnant wife.
HIs pregnant with their second kid wife.
“What are you doing with your face, Cap?” Ruby asked knowingly and, yeah, definitely too comfortable together.
“Nothing,” Killian said quickly. Ruby arched an eyebrow. And some voice was making some kind of announcement, Arthur shouting to be quiet, but they were a plane full of children masquerading as professionals and every single one of them groaned as soon as they learned they’d be stuck an extra night in Chicago.
“Damn,” he sighed. Emma was still smiling. “Did you know already, love? Is that why you called?”
She shifted in her chair, a body colliding with her side in a flash of dark hair and something that looked a bit like a jersey. “Maybe I was just trying to talk to you. Also is your hip ok?”
“What happened to your hip?” Ariel screeched, at the same time Will and Ruby muttered gross. Robin was texting Regina. Killian could hear her phone through his phone.
God.
“Nothing, nothing, Red, I’m fine,” Killian promised, and possibly, lied, and Emma widened her eyes in disbelief. “Fine, Swan. Hey, Mattie,” he added, the blur of colors jerking up and he probably should have been asleep, but he’d also probably been trying to play Roland and Henry in whatever game was currently destroying the restaurant walls.
“Hi,” Matt shouted. He waved with both hands.
Killian was going to walk home.
He could probably get there before they let them off this goddamn plane.
“I had a hunch,” Emma said, answering a question Killian almost forgot he’d asked. “About the nor’easter. That’s what it’s called, Scarlet.”
“God, I told you,” Robin yelled. Killian shook his head when Emma’s eyebrows pinched. Matt was still waving.
“Whatever,” Will scowled.
“That’s the spirit,” Emma laughed. “But also part of the reason why we called and why we’re not sleeping like some other slightly better behaved children in this restaurant.”
“And because he wanted to cheat a hockey,” Roland added, voice not quite even when he groaned at whatever Henry did, but there was more laughter and Regina chastising both of them, and Dylan was some kind of professional sleeper. Apparently. He probably got it from Ariel.
Her eyelids were starting to flutter again.
“Anyway,” Emma said pointedly. “I’m ready to use our kid’s inherent cuteness to our benefit.”
Killian arched an eyebrow, but he could feel the smile on his face and his heart should probably be studied at this point. “That so?”
“Yes, we practiced.”
He needed to look up how long it would take to walk home.
Will let go of the armrest.
It was a miracle.
Emma nodded once, something that felt like amusement on her face as she tugged Matt onto her lap, and his entire expression changed as soon as he saw so many familiar faces. Ruby might have melted. Or sighed dramatically. She did, at least, move, stepping around Ariel and perching on an arm rest to get into the phone frame.
And that probably would have been enough for several professional hockey players to mock, if they also weren’t impossibly charmed by the kid on the screen in front of them too.
“Hey mini-Jones,” she said softly, and Matt tried to jump through Emma’s phone.
“Thanks a lot, Rubes.”
Ruby was definitely melting. “I make no apologies for how much your kid loves me. You score on, Rol, mini-Jones?
“Hey Dr. J,” Will said quickly, ignoring Ruby’s clicked tongue at the interruption, and Killian rolled his eyes. “You use that move we practiced before?”
“Oh my God, he’s not even three, Scarlet,” Killian groaned, but Will didn’t pay any attention and Roland was shouting again.
“It’s cheating, Uncle Will! You can’t go for the ankles like that!”
“What are you teaching them?” Ariel gaped.
Will made a face, but Killian had some fairly strong suspicions and there were probably bruises on Roland and Henry’s ankles too. “A child,” Robin said again. “The most child.”
“Childish,” Emma corrected. “That’s the word you’re looking for. And you guys are distracting me from my point and my plan, so can you just be charmed by my kid for, like, two seconds and then we can all try and sleep.”
“Maybe,” Killian said. Will gagged.
“What’d you practice, Dr. J?” he asked.
Matt’s eyes widened, a hint of nerves, and Killian’s eyes met Emma’s. She smiled. “It’s ok, kid,” she said, tugging lightly on the side of his jersey and the ‘C’ on his shoulder was almost too obvious.
He made a noise, not quite an agreement because he wasn’t quite three, but he tilted his head slightly and it was a bit like watching a replay of several decades before and Killian barely heard Ruby’s quiet laughter over the ringing in his ears.
“A record,” Matt yelled. “Chic…chich…Chickaaago had lots of snow and no planes. And there were snowmen!”
“We looked at pictures,” Emma explained, and Killian’s laugh was shaky and a bit emotional, but Ruby might have still been melting and there was a snow job win there somewhere.
“That was good, Dr. J,” Will grinned. “Thanks for the facts. And the interesting pronunciation attempt.”
“It’s a work in progress.”
“Ah, I’ve got no doubt.”
“A record, Swan, really?” Killian asked, and she was already nodding.
“Oh yeah, something historic this February and more snow this month and some other things about global warming that I figured were way too heavy to talk about with a toddler, but we looked up some stuff and Henry was almost interested in the information before Roland reminded him that he’d won the first round of hockey. And we’re horrible influences because they made some kind of bet about rules I don’t understand.”
“They wrote them down,” Robin said. “Gina made sure if they were going to keep doing this, there was some kind of plan. That way when they shout at each other about cheating, we know what they’re talking about.”
“Proactive.”
“I’ve got some dad-type experience.”
Emma hummed, eyes flitting back towards Killian and he was going to sprain several face muscles. “I’m fine, love,” he said, answering a question she hadn’t asked. She held onto Matt a little tired.
“Long week” she muttered, and they were finally starting to get off the plane, Phillip shouting for them from the back of the cabin and he refused to sit near any of them ever, something about sleep and voice levels and it was more than fair.
Killian nodded. “Yeah, it was. Tomorrow, love. Thanks for the facts.”
“Figured it might be a good distraction.”
“Good instincts.”
“Something like that.”
“I love you,” he said, and Will had the good sense not to make any noise.
Emma’s eyes definitely got greener. “I love you too. Tomorrow. No snow. Except maybe the snowmen.”
“Did you promise to build snowmen, Swan?”
“There had to be some give and take in this practice, Cap.”
“Ah, of course.”
She shrugged, but she was still smiling and Matt appeared to be on the cusp of sleep already, exhausted once his job was done. “Tomorrow,” Emma repeated, and Killian didn’t really sleep that night, but he didn’t have to walk home, and there wasn’t any turbulence on the next flight.
There were, however, several detailed drawings for snowmen and photos on their next off day and no one got bruised in the rather extravagant snowball fight they staged in Central Park.
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