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i’ve seen some parallel of luffy and law being compared to garp and sengoku, and yeah their interactions and dynamics were pretty similar. you can say sengoku treated rosinante like his son (he said it himself), and even though it doesn’t make him a “grandfather” for law (not that rosinante himself was a “father figure” for law, law referred corazon as his benefactor/savior only, not someone that he looked up as a father), there’s still a connection between law and sengoku through rosinante.
and now i’m thinking “wow sengoku was such a fraud”
i’ve seen garp getting his slander enough and he deserved it, i think sengoku deserved his lashing too because i wasn’t seeing enough, not helping that i’ve been seeing a lot of marine propaganda on twitter lately for some weird reasons (i can understand if people like some marine characters but the tweets sound like actual world government propaganda, i don’t know if it’s a satire or what but yeah some people are actually serious lol)
from the doffy-law-cora flashback, we learned that sengoku found rosinante as a kid and he adopted him, and later rosinante turned into becoming a marine. i’ve seen some takes about how rosinante should be a revolutionary instead, the reason i’ve seen is because he’s the opposite of his brother that obviously loved being a celestial dragon and wanted to gain all that glory back, but in the end of the day rosinante became a marine, an opposite of doflamingo who was a pirate.
and it got me thinking…. i feel like there’s no scene where rosinante even said or thought that the celestial dragon was in the wrong side of history, he never acknowledged “yeah i was born a celestial dragon and they’re all monsters”, he only ever referred doffy as THE monster specifically, he even said that his parents were kind people (i mean he’s not wrong), and don’t get me wrong, rosinante was a good person (okay hot take here, he’s indeed a good person but he’s not the kindest either, he’s pretty fucked in the head too lol), but the only time he made a reference to his CD root was when he mentioned about the will of D being the enemies of gods, and that’s it—and to note law himself wasn’t aware that the “gods” were meant to be the CD, he just found out doflamingo and rosinante were one 13 years later.
so yeah, rosinante was a marine commander, sengoku claimed that rosinante had a strong sense in justice so then he became a marine, but i mean we didn’t even know the details of it, like in the end rosinante still worked under the government that served the CD, the group he was a part of but then abandoned him. rosinante sure was not like doflamingo and definitely grew up to have compassion to others, but he never explicitly said he was completely against the CD as a whole either, most of his anger towards doflamingo was personal, he was younger than doflamingo that he might understand less about what’s going on in their childhood, he was just sure that he didn’t want to be like his brother and chose a different path. i can see that he still had a little bias, but i didn’t mean in it in a way that rosinante still thought it was okay to have slave when he grew up, he just believed becoming a marine was the right path because he grew up seeing sengoku as his role model, it never really came through him that the marine was still the institution that worked under the CD.
i am also 100% sure that sengoku was the one who actually convinced rosinante to take a path as a marine like he was because he believed it was the true “justice”, just like how garp did to his son and grandsons. remember that garp, sengoku, and tsuru were the legends of the marine, the three of them were long time friends who had been through so much together and you could see they tried to get their family into the marine: garp tried but he failed, tsuru was confirmed to have a granddaughter who was a marine (maybe her child was also a marine), and sengoku had rosinante as a marine. sengoku taught rosinante his views and as a kid rosinante believed the marine was the justice, why not? sengoku saved him and raised him like a son, it was a noble job, unlike his brother, he would also become one because sengoku made him believe it was the right choice.
then we learned that garp didn’t like the CD, he didn’t even want to be an admiral because if he did he would have to work directly under them. it got me thinking, since garp and sengoku (also tsuru) were friends and it seemed like they actually shared the same views and values, it meant that sengoku didn’t really like the CD either right? like who the hell in their right mind—especially with how prideful they were about the true justice—seeing a slavery in front of their eyes and thought “oh yeah it wasn’t a problem since the ones who did the slavery was the noble i worked for”? be for real. but sengoku actually took the admiral position and then became a fleet admiral, so he did work under the CD directly. we never knew how he actually felt about it, but if he also shared the same values and beliefs as garp, was he not a bit ashamed? he might have conflicted feelings about it too maybe?

ooppss, sorry forget that he never questioned the government wrongdoings lmao.
all those decades working as a marine and even reached the highest position, he never thought to change the system at all, just followed orders that were given, and the conclusion he got before retiring was “yeah i’m tired of this shit, i’m out”. but he….. didn’t completely out, did he? he was still working under the marine as what… some senior inspector general or something like that. if i were him i would be just completely out tbh especially on that age, like there’s no reason for me to still be connected with the marine, and don’t tell me someone as influential as him couldn’t escape the marine because the world government wouldn’t let him, if kuzan could do that i thought it wasn’t a problem, sengoku could definitely retire and be out of the marine for good. did he still think he might have a chance to change it ? he couldn’t even do that as FLEET ADMIRAL. or maybe he just liked still being involved with them? you are near the graveyard just fucking retire old man, go to some nice island in south blue, get a new hobby that is not war crime.
then i remember about rosinante again. rosinante had told sengoku about his mission to cure law’s disease and it made him to stop spying the donquixote family in awhile. we already know what happened next, with the ope ope no mi, doflamingo killed rosinante, and law ran away.
i believed the event of the ope ope no mi was the turning point for rosinante. when law asked him if he was a marine, he lied “I’M NOT A DAMN MARINE” for the reason that we learned later he didn’t want law to hate him. he was also aware that he would be an enemy of everyone if he stole the ope ope no mi, including the marine, the institution he worked for, the institution he once believed was justice. but in the end he chose to betray it for a sick annoying kid he didn’t even get along with, just because he cared about law, and of course rosinante grew to love law. i also believe, at this moment, rosinante finally realized how flawed and unfair the system was, after 6 months trying to find a cure for a sick child, seeing he got rejected and even insulted because the propaganda about the amber lead that was spread by the world government, he genuinely felt hurt for the kid, he’s ready to betray not only doflamingo but also the marine, because he knew both sides had failed law, and he didn’t hesitate to do the right thing after he realized he wasn’t actually on the “right” side as he always thought he was.
but even after that event, sengoku, who seemed to be really sad over his son’s death, didn’t even do anything regarding that? if he actually cared and loved rosinante, wouldn’t he search for a kid that rosinante tried to save? he was an admiral at that point, he had the power and the connection to do that. but nope, he did nothing. and then i think maybe it was for the best because if sengoku actually found law and raised him, he would also make him a marine, especially with having that ope ope no mi power, there’s no way the world government would let go of law. but still, it just made sengoku look like he didn’t even try to do something as what he valued for.
and don’t get me started with how the hell he couldn’t do anything about doflamingo being a warlord. okay maybe he really couldn’t do anything since all those secrets doffy knew about mary geoise, but really? after all that he still kept working in that corrupt institution without even trying to change a bit of it? rosinante, his son, whom he raised, didn’t even hesitate to leave the marine and indirectly disobeying his dad’s wishes just to do the right thing, but why it was so hard for sengoku to do the same thing? maybe sengoku was right, rosinante indeed had the true justice in him but it wasn’t just about being a damn marine.
i would give sengoku a credit that he didn’t capture law and let him free, he also told law about how he didn’t need to find a reason why rosinante loved him, i still think it was the most beautiful thing to say and law needed that. but beside that, he’s just as fraudulent as garp, maybe that’s why they are besties. i know i know, these characterization was actually not unrealistic, it is actually very realistic for garp and sengoku, a lot of people in authority thought they did something right or tried to change the system from the inside just to end up doing nothing, and it what makes them interesting as characters. but i will still call them a fraud because i can, this is what agenda piece for right?

#one piece#one piece meta#one piece analysis#meta#analysis#rant#ramblings#trafalgar law#trafalgar d water law#donquixote rosinante#donquixote corazon#donquixote doflamingo#sengoku the buddha#monkey d garp#dressrosa#agenda piece#lmao why i tagged it as agenda piece#it’s funny okay#idk if tumblr even fw agenda piece#it’s not reddit or twitter#but let me have this as agenda too#sengoku deserves the slander as much as garp
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Vivi and her role in the strawhat

vivi is a strawhat, that’s what some people believe, and i’m not against it either. currently i just don’t really consider vivi as the official strawhat crew since she hasn’t rejoined the group, and like after all these years we’ve spent so much time with strawhats current crew, the time we’ve spent with vivi felt like it was a long ago (basically 20 years ago), well except you’ve just started one piece and marathoned it not too long ago lol.
but the thing about vivi, i’ve seen a lot of arguments about her requirements being a strawhat, and it’s mostly about her being weak and has no clear position/role within the crew.
about her being weak i need to disagree, sure if she joined the strawhat, she might be the weakest crew replacing usopp (lmao sorry usopp i like you), but she is also a fighter and she is actually not cowardly at all. i found her peacock weapon yoyo—or whatever is that—unique, but sadly we just never really see her fighting much with it, and when she did she mostly got against crocodile, which was why she would look weak, like it’s no competition at all lol.
now about her position/role within the crew. every strawhat has their own and distinctive role, and none of them have the same role, it’s obvious oda made them intentionally small since the strawhat is the main character and of course he will make the group smaller so he can focus on them, like we can see he is a bit struggling to balance every strawhat’s scene, 10 characters are already a lot btw. now if vivi finally joined the strawhat, what her position/role would she be? it seemed like every major role on pirate ship is already filled, and then it’s when people came up with something like “vivi is going to be the DIPLOMAT of the strawhat!!!”
now… that is something i have to disagree with, a diplomat? for a fucking pirate? A DIPLOMAT?? LMFAO WHAT??? why people treating these pirates—fucking pirates—who live freely by their own, need an official representative/ambassador to speak to others like they’re some kind of politician—is it just because vivi a princess? she’s good at politics? international relations? that’s it?
okay maybe i was too harsh, again you can argue that robin’s position is an archeologist/scholar and that job also has nothing to do with the actual pirate crew at all either. but the thing is, for them to actually reach the one piece, they need that position because she can read the poneglyph, so it’s still a role that is needed within the one piece context. and beside only the strawhat has this special role because none of the archeologists/scholars beside robin were still live, so yeah basically luffy has the privilege that the other pirates don’t lol.
you might also have an argument that a pirate crew especially the bigger one need some people who can communicate with others to make some deals, business, alliances, etc, but i think it doesn’t really need to have a specific position/role for that, hell i will say other strawhats can do that just fine without the need of the “diplomat” role, and we’ve seen it in the story already. luffy himself could gain people trust with acting as himself. he had his territory already in fishman island and wano, basically had a good relation with 2 big countries, did vivi have anything to do with that? no. and do i have to bring the ninja-pirate-samurai-mink alliance and the alliance with capone bege? again these characters are pirates, they don’t need a coolheaded diplomat to speak for them to gain what they want, they mostly do it with no rules and just vibes.
also people tend to bring the scene from drum island where vivi made luffy to apologize and ask the people to help them, and it proved that vivi was good at diplomacy and it would be her role in the strawhat later. but i would argue that scene isn’t to show that vivi would become a future diplomat for the strawhat, it just meant that she had more awareness on the situation especially as a princess, and it was needed for luffy to learn that he needed to humble himself and not to be so reckless when one of his crew was in danger.

in the other hand, that scene actually showed that vivi is much as capable as luffy as the captain—have you ever thought that the story actually told you that she’s a natural born leader? she told luffy that he was a bad captain if he kept acting so reckless, like she basically told him if you want to be a leader, you should be more aware of your surroundings. and all from we know about vivi, she cares deeply about her country, her people, and from all the flashbacks we learn that even since a child that she’s aware her position as a princess and tried to make a conflict among the countries just like when wapol hit her.
so then what make vivi’s role then? well just say what she is, she is a princess—no, she is THE princess. she is pretty much the first princess character we’ve met in the story and actually have much deeper bond with the strawhats. we met other princesses in later arcs but vivi is still like the main princess that people love the most and actually shows her capability as the leader of her country. let’s be real shirahoshi is nice but her character is still relevant because she’s one of the ancient weapon, rebecca is basically there to be plot device for kyros’ character development (i mean we still have viola but rebecca is somehow more highlighted as the princess of the arc), hiyori is also a great princess but in the end, it’s mononosuke who became the shogun, and she didn’t really have that deeper bond with the strawhats (except her simping on zoro lmao). basically vivi is the princess blueprint and even though we’ve met other princesses, she is still irreplaceable.
so you think that her role in the strawhat is basically just… a princess? yeah, i can think that she’s going to be crucial for the strawhat as an already known princess especially knowing how the story will be leading to. “what’s the different of her being a diplomat of the crew then?” LISTEN, do you really think they will just outright saying “vivi the strawhat’s diplomat” like she’s some kind of an ambassador for a country? like be for real lol, her role doesn’t need to be told as literal definition of diplomatic representation, that sounds so weird and so formal for a PIRATE, we need to remember these characters ARE PIRATES. does shanks have one? rockstar maybe because he was the one who was sent to talk to whitebeard first?
and it actually made me thing that the actual pirate role i can think of that fits vivi is the quartermaster, basically the second-command of the crew. like i said before, vivi is just as capable as captain as luffy is, she is the natural born-leader, without vivi the strawhat wouldn’t even be able to help nami in drum island, and she’s pretty much known how to lead a country, let alone a pirate ship. and she’s basically a walking exposition in the first grandline arc because the strawhats didn’t know that much about it, that proved that she was knowledgeable enough to know about the grandline. and yes i think she will be a great addition to the crew and she can help a lot with her skill as a leader too.
yes i know basically the strawhats roles actually just all over the places, you can said someone like zoro is already the quartermaster (because he’s basically the first mate even though it was never explicitly been said?) or even nami because she is…. nami lol. but it’s just how i see it that vivi has the capability to be the captain herself, but because luffy is already one and vivi believes in him, i can see her working as whatever she can to help make luffy as the pirate king.
#one piece#nefertari vivi#analysis#ramblings#long post#my first thought piece lol#i actually didn’t plan to write about vivi first but just saw a tweet calling her role being a diplomat#and i was like enough with this political bullshit strawhat is A PIRATEEEEE
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this blog is going to be my place to yap and rant, i don’t know if i’m good enough to pull an analysis or meta especially with my very limited english, but for now it’s just going to be a place for putting my thoughts and farts since twitter and bluesky are very limited and i realized i like to write a whole essay (aka yapping too much)
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