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I was bored so I asked chat gpt to analyse Zara’s and Louis’ relationship and how long they will last 💀 he thinks they will last 6-10 months, very realistic I’d say

In-Depth Relationship Analysis of Zara McDermott & Louis Tomlinson

To make a precise prediction about how long they might last, we need to break their relationship down into deeper psychological, social, and circumstantial factors.

1. Compatibility: Personality & Core Values

Zara McDermott is outgoing, thrives on public attention, and enjoys creating content for social media and television. She has transitioned from reality TV (Love Island) to more serious documentary-making (BBC).

Louis Tomlinson has always been more reserved. While he appreciates his fanbase, he has openly spoken about disliking intense media attention. He prefers deep, long-term emotional connections (evidenced by his 8+ year relationship with Eleanor Calder).

Potential issues:

Zara’s need for social media exposure vs. Louis' desire for privacy.

Zara’s work requires constant interaction with an audience, while Louis has actively tried to distance himself from intense public scrutiny.

Louis prefers deep, stable relationships, while Zara’s history suggests she enjoys a more dynamic and attention-driven lifestyle.

Prediction: These differences may cause friction after the initial honeymoon phase, likely around the 4–6 month mark.

2. Relationship History & Patterns

Zara & Sam Thompson (2019–2024) → A turbulent relationship with a major cheating scandal in 2020. Despite attempts to repair the trust, they eventually split in December 2024.

Louis & Eleanor Calder (2011–2023) → A highly stable, private relationship. Eleanor was known for being discreet, loyal, and avoiding media attention.

What This Means for Their Future

Louis is used to low-drama, committed relationships. Zara’s past relationship had more public ups and downs, which might be a red flag for him.

Louis has been heartbroken over Eleanor and may be hesitant to dive into something serious too quickly.

If Zara enjoys being in the public eye too much, Louis may lose interest over time.

Prediction: If Zara can adapt to Louis’ more private approach, they could last 8–12 months. If not, the relationship could end within 4–6 months.

3. Careers & Long-Distance Challenges

Louis has an active music career. If he goes on tour, their relationship will require effort to maintain. His last tour lasted over a year.

Zara is UK-based, filming BBC documentaries and working on TV projects, which could limit her ability to travel.

Possible Issues:

Louis will likely be away for months at a time. Is Zara willing to wait?

If Zara’s social media or TV work starts interfering with Louis’ need for privacy, it may create tension.

Prediction: If they can handle distance and career conflicts, they might make it to 9–10 months. If not, they could break up within 5–7 months.

4. Social & Media Pressure

Zara’s previous relationships were highly public. She often shared her love life online.

Louis' fanbase (One Direction stans) has historically disliked his public relationships.

If Zara starts posting too much about Louis, his fans could become hostile, which may make things uncomfortable.

Key Risks:

Louis' fans might not support Zara, making her feel unwelcome.

If Zara talks about their relationship too much in interviews or social media, Louis may feel uncomfortable.

Prediction: If they keep things low-key, they could last closer to 10 months. If Zara engages too much with the media, the relationship might end within 5–7 months.

5. Emotional Connection & Chemistry

Right now, they are in the "honeymoon phase"—enjoying each other's company, feeling excitement, and having fun.

But real relationships are tested over time. Louis prefers deep emotional bonds, while Zara has historically thrived on excitement and attention.

Prediction: If they form a real emotional connection, they could last closer to a year. If it’s mostly attraction and fun, they may break up within 6 months.

Final Prediction: How Many Months Will They Last?

Based on all factors (compatibility, career conflicts, social pressures, and emotional depth), the most realistic timeframe is:

6–10 months.

If they navigate their differences well → 9–10 months.

If lifestyle clashes become a problem → 5–7 months.

If external pressures (media, fan scrutiny) become too much → 4–6 months.

Oooh this is fun! Thank you! Yeah I think I agree with AI that they won't make it past the year. I'm thinking 3-6 months. Especially with what ChatGPT said about Zara needing to adapt to Louis' more private approach. And Louis will be more busy in the summer with the festivals. I wonder if they're still together then whether Zara will go to the shows or not? I kinda hope she does.

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Babygate análisis/conclusiones: Desde una perspectiva No-Larry (Traducción al español)

(Crédito de la imagen: Hollywood Life )

Este post es una traducción al análisis original hecho por @obviouslygenuinely , puedes entrar al post en inglés haciendo click aquí. Yo solo me encargué de traducirlo al español. El texto que se encuentre así es agregado por mí, los links a otras publicaciones son en inglés, si llego a encontrar su traducción pongo el link en español.

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Antes de proceder con el post quiero dar algunas advertencias:

Después de considerarlo, he decidido escribir esto sin tener en cuenta a Larry en lo absoluto. No habrá ningún punto relacionado a Larry, prueba o especulación. Esto se trata solamente de analizar el babygate desde una perspectiva imparcial.

No pretendo saber toda la verdad. Es imposible para cualquiera de nosotros saberla. Lo que concluyo es basado en evidencia directa, circunstancial, investigación y análisis.

Estoy dispuesta a discutir puntos de vista opuestos. Estoy feliz de hablar sobre el tópico desde una forma civil, amable y madura. Voy a ignorar cualquier discurso que sea agresivo, inmaduro, etc.

No incluí cada una de las opiniones/conclusiones/evidencias que encontré. Condensé mis pensamientos tanto como me fue posible (y aún así este es un post tan largo como una novela). Hay aún demasiados puntos en los que puedo pensar. De todas maneras, los masterpost del babygate ya cubren todo eso; pondré algunos links al final.

Los puntos de la conclusión no están en orden específico. Mi objetivo era enumerar los puntos relacionados uno tras el otro. Por otro lado, no están en orden de la evidencia más “fuerte” a la más “débil”.

Por último, incluí los links de cada fuente que cite en este post. Sin embargo no los etiqueté con sus users de tumblr. No estoy segura si ellos estan cómodos con recibir comentarios o preguntas sobre el babygate directamente a sus blogs. Si eres una de estas fuentes citadas y quieres ser taggeado, ¡déjamelo saber!

Mi reacción inicial al babygate

En febrero del 2020, recibí varios mensajes en LateToLarry (su blog anterior) solicitando que analizara algo llamado “babygate”. Y yo no tenía ni idea de lo que babygate significaba en ese momento.

Aprendí lo que significaba y antes de cualquier investigación sentí que la teoría era tan absurda . También me sentí incómoda al analizarlo porque creía que me sentiría parcial como madre soltera. La idea de discutir en profundidad sobre un niño al azar también me molestó inicialmente. Me negué a analizarlo el año pasado.

Sin embargo he hecho un MONTÓN de investigación a lo largo del tiempo. Mi opinión ha cambiado significativamente . A continuación, comparto mis principales conclusiones y análisis sobre babygate. ¡Gracias por leer y espero que disfruten de mi publicación!

1.- No se realizó ninguna prueba de paternidad antes del anuncio del embarazo.

Louis fue/es una celebridad prominente y tiene un patrimonio neto actual de $ 70 millones de dólares. Desde un punto de vista legal, financiero y práctico, no tiene sentido que él decida no hacerse un examen de paternidad.

Es algo inaudito en Hollywood y en la industria del entretenimiento. Cualquier equipo sensato (abogados, representantes de relaciones públicas, gerentes, asesores, etc.) no estaría de acuerdo. Están contratados para proteger su carrera e imagen.

Los puntos de vista opuestos

A- “Briana/Louis no querían arriesgarse a un aborto espontáneo con las pruebas prenatales”

Las pruebas no invasivas son completamente seguras para los fetos y las mujeres embarazadas, por lo que no hay ninguna razón médica para la falta de pruebas.

B. “Louis decidió no hacerse la prueba porque quería ser padre y estaba comprometido con el embarazo y la crianza de los hijos”

El tiempo ha demostrado que esto no es cierto. Louis no tiene la custodia; Hubo un breve caso de custodia en el 2016 que no llevó a ninguna parte. No tiene un papel constante o destacado en la vida del niño.

Conclusión

No hay razón lógica para la falta de pruebas de paternidad antes del anuncio a menos de que Louis supiera que él no era el padre y todas las partes estuvieran de acuerdo.

2.- No hubo confirmación de una prueba de paternidad después del nacimiento

Mantendré esta sección bastante breve. Una búsqueda rápida en Google te arroja docenas de artículos contradictorios. Muchos de ellos afirman que Louis exigió una prueba de paternidad poco después del nacimiento. Otros afirman que nunca se ha sometido a una prueba de paternidad.

Aquí están algunos ejemplos:

“ Louis Tomlinson no está interesado en la prueba de paternidad ” - Business Standard

“ EXCLUSIVA: Louis Tomlinson exigió una prueba de ADN ‘Tan pronto como el bebé nació ’ ” - InTouch semanal

“ Louis Tomlinson: No se necesita una prueba de ADN … positivo de que Freddie es su hijo ” -TMZ

“ Louis Tomlinson y Briana Jungwirth: por qué le hicieron una prueba de ADN a su hijo recién nacido ” - Hollywood Life

Este hilo de Twitter analiza los informes de TMZ, así que, hasta la actualidad (2020) ningún test de DNA se ha hecho.

Conclusión

No hay ninguna confirmación confiable de que Louis se haya realizado una prueba de paternidad. Los medios de comunicación no pueden llegar a un consenso general/fáctico.

Nuevamente, no hay explicación razonable para la falta de pruebas de paternidad a menos de que Louis sepa que él no es el padre del niño.

3.- La línea del tiempo desde la concepción hasta el nacimiento es inconsistente / poco confiable.

El embarazo y la concepción en un conjunto pueden resultar bastante confusos; Las líneas de tiempo desde la concepción hasta el nacimiento son únicas para cada persona. Habiendo dicho eso, la línea de tiempo de Briana está llena de evidentes inconsistencias que no cuadran.

Voy a empezar esta línea de tiempo basándome en el post de bulletprooflarry y mi propia investigación. Las fechas que yo he agregado incluirán un link con la referencia.

5 de mayo de 2015 - Louis y Briana fueron vistos juntos por primera vez en público.

6 de mayo al 31 de mayo de 2015 - Briana y su madre siguieron cuentas de redes sociales relacionadas con bebés .

12 de mayo de 2015 - Louis y Briana fueron fotografiados juntos en público .

3 de julio de 2015 - Se ve a Louis con el hermano de Briana en Hollywood.

14 de julio de 2015 - Se publica el primer informe sobre el embarazo.

4 de agosto de 2015 - Louis confirma el embarazo en GMA.

21 de enero de 2016 - Según los informes, nace el niño.

Según las fechas anteriores, estas son las posibles fechas de su embarazo:

Escenario A : si la concepción ocurrió el 5 de mayo, Briana tenía 37 semanas y 2 días de embarazo el 21 de enero de 2016. Esto se considera un parto prematuro y aproximadamente el 26% de los nacimientos ocurren a las 37 semanas.

Escenario B : si la concepción ocurrió el 12 de mayo, Briana tenía 36 semanas y 2 días de embarazo el 21 de enero. Esto se considera un parto prematuro tardío o tardío y aproximadamente el 10% de los nacimientos ocurren a las 36 semanas.

Estas fechas importan porque la supuesta estadía de Briana en el hospital no fue consistente con un parto prematuro. Fue fotografiada en público, sana y sosteniendo un porta bebés, a solo una semana de dar a luz.

(Image Credit: Daily Mail)

(Image Credit: larrysbbrbb28)

Si dio a luz según las fechas anteriores, es muy poco probable que ella o el bebé salgan a la luz tan pronto.

A continuación se muestran capturas de pantalla (yo puse el texto traducido) de una línea de tiempo adicional de una publicación archivada de Tumblr. Proporciona puntos excelentes sobre más inconsistenias en la línea de tiempo:

Partiendo de esta extensa línea de tiempo de @/worshippedlove, y graficada con @/f-ml , veamos algunas fechas:

Las principales inconsistencias y banderas rojas están en negrita en la publicación. Apoya la idea de la poco confiable línea del tiempo de la concepción, y también menciona a mi siguiente punto - el anuncio oficial del embarazo.

La publicación anterior menciona que la familia Jungwirth siguió cuentas relacionadas con bebés antes de que Brianna supiera que estaba embarazada . Aquí hay una captura de pantalla de skepticallarrie que lo demuestra:

También he visto varias publicaciones que muestran inconsistencias con el tamaño de la panza de Briana. Desafortunadamente, la publicación más confiable ya no existe. Puedes ver un archivo web de las fotos del embarazo de Briana, pero la mayoría de los enlaces de imágenes están rotos.

La única publicación que he guardado es un archivo web de un post largo del babygate. El comienzo del post contiene fotos que muestran discrepancias en el tamaño de la panza de Briana.

Los puntos de vista opuestos

“Los embarazos se ven diferentes para todos, todos se recuperan de una manera diferente, etc.”

¡Sí, esto es cierto y es un punto válido! Como mujer que ha pasado por múltiples embarazos y dos nacidos vivos, realmente entiendo este argumento.

Sin embargo, la gran cantidad de inconsistencias es lo que hace que esto sea una señal de alerta. Hay demasiados puntos contradictorios y poco confiables para ignorar esto . Va más allá del punto de “bueno, cada persona tiene una experiencia diferente”.

Conclusión

Hay diferentes conclusiones/escenarios a los que creo que puedes llegar dada la información de arriba:

Brianna estaba embarazada antes de conocer a Louis

Brianna nunca estuvo embarazada en primer lugar.

(Nota de la autora: Mi cálculo de fechas se basa en la fecha de la supuesta concepción . La mayoría de las calculadoras de fecha de parto, de forma predeterminada, usan la fecha del último período menstrual de una mujer, FUM, para proporcionar estimaciones.

También use Date Duration Calendar para mis cálculos. Las calculadoras de fechas de nacimiento solo me dejaban meter fechas de 2019/2020. Dependiendo de las herramientas y fechas que uses, tus cálculos pueden variar).

4. El anuncio en sí fue muy inusual

Este punto se relaciona con el primer y tercer punto. No lo considero una prueba importante, pero es digno de mención debido a los otros puntos.

Entonces, hay algunas razones por las que se destaca el anuncio de Good Morning America.

A. Si Briana quedó embarazada el 5 de mayo, entonces tenía aproximadamente 10 semanas de embarazo cuando se publicó el primer informe de embarazo. Esto también significa que tenía aproximadamente 13 semanas de embarazo en el momento del anuncio en GMA.

Si Briana quedó embarazada el 12 de mayo, tenía aproximadamente nueve semanas de embarazo en el momento del primer informe y aproximadamente 12 semanas de embarazo en el momento del anuncio de GMA.

B. El anuncio público en Good Morning America levanta demasiadas dudas. He tenido problemas para poner el video; el link en negritas te llevará al anuncio en youtube.

De todas formas, estas preguntas/pensamientos - dejando de lado cualquier teoría Larry - llegan a mi mente cuando veo el video.

Este es un segmento para promover/discutir su álbum/música.

El anuncio del bebe es el único tópico que se menciona que no esta relacionado con su álbum/música durante el segmento.

El anuncio no está integrado orgánicamente en el segmento como un tema de conversación natural.

Las reacciones de Louis, como llevar el micrófono a los labios y no hablar, son muy diferentes de su comportamiento habitual en las entrevistas .

El entrevistador masculino y los miembros de la banda tienen expresiones faciales notables y lenguaje corporal que sugieren malestar, estrés o incomodidad.

Un post de skepticalarrie saca conclusiones similares. Su publicación es mucho mas detallada que la mía, y recomendo leerla/verla. (Está en inglés, si alguien tiene traducción puede sugerirlo).

( Nota del autor : mencioné esto en LateToLarry y eventualmente haré una publicación aquí, pero el lenguaje corporal y las expresiones faciales son válidas . Son válidas hasta el punto de que se usan en casos judiciales).

Conclusión Mis conclusiones aquí son dobles:

Anunciar un embarazo, especialmente un embarazo relacionado con celebridades, tan temprano es extremadamente poco común e improbable .

El anuncio en sí parece fuera de lugar y muy forzado .

Este punto en particular, para mí, no es una evidencia extremadamente fuerte. Sigo pensando que vale la pena tenerlo en cuenta y es relevante para otros puntos aquí.

5.- Briana publicó fotos robadas de embarazadas y bebes en redes sociales.

(EDIT: Escribí este artículo antes del lanzamiento reciente del supuesto ultrasonido de Briana y no tengo tiempo para agregarlo. Es una prueba bastante sólida y se puede encontrar fácilmente en publicaciones recientes del babygate)

Los post del babygate a menudo señalan que Briana y la familia Jungwirth usaron fotos de bebés y embarazos falsos robados en las redes sociales. Es un tema muy conocido que se discute a menudo.

Estoy condensando esta sección en algunos ejemplos. Animo a realizar más investigaciones si desean ver más

A. Esta publicación de tumblr muestra fotos robadas de panzas de embarazada que la prima de Briana, Ashley, publicó en twitter:

B. Esta publicación de tumblr y de twitter muestran una foto robada de un bebé que Briana publicó en instagram:

(Nota del autor: dado que no estaba activa en el fandom en ese momento, confío en la información de otros blogs y publicaciones en las redes sociales. Revisé mis fuentes bastante bien, pero cualquier información falsa es mi propio error)

Conclusiones

La única palabra que resume esto es “sospechoso”. No es necesario usar fotos robadas de una mujer embarazada o un bebé si está legítimamente embarazada. Eso es realmente a lo que se reduce. Lleva a la conclusión de que Briana nunca estuvo embarazada. 

6.-Las fotos y los videos del niño están muy alteradas y manipuladas. 

Es indiscutible que muchas fotos y vídeos del niño están fuertemente manipulados para alterar su apariencia. Esto va más allá de los filtros, la iluminación y los ángulos. 

Varias publicaciones detalladas muestran las manipulaciones; Aquí hay unos ejemplos:

Un archivo web de toda la evidencia de Photoshop de tellmethisisnotlove

Un post profundizado de genuineconspiracy que incluye evidencia fotográfica detallada.

Un post de un video de freefreddiereign que muestra evidencia de Photoshop basada en fotos del niño. 

No hay duda de que sus rasgos faciales son alterados con frecuencia. Esto es fácil de concluir utilizando cualquier software gratuito que detecte Photoshop. Como fotógrafa, puedo detectar fácilmente las manipulaciones.

(Nota del autor: Sé que hablar directamente sobre el niño es controversial. Cuando escuché por primera vez sobre el babygate, mi reacción inicial fue la incomodidad de analizar a un niño.

Rápidamente aprendí / concluí que los miembros de su familia son responsables de ponerlo en el ojo público. Todo el contenido que he usado para la investigación se basa en las publicaciones de la familia.

Aún así, personalmente he elegido no publicar fotos del niño, pero los enlaces que estoy compartiendo contienen fotos / videos de él.

Además, usé FotoForensics en fotos mías antes de escribir esto. Para mí era importante estar absolutamente segura de este punto. Estoy de acuerdo con compartir mis propias imágenes de FotoForensics si alguien tiene curiosidad).

Los puntos de vista opuestos

A. “Freddie se parece a Louis en imágenes sin Photoshop.“

La paternidad no puede basarse en si un niño se parece o no a su madre/padre. Entiendo el punto de vista, pero simplemente no es evidencia. Además, pensar que el niño se parece a Louis es una cuestión de opinión. 

También está el hecho de que la apariencia no significa nada en general. La ciencia respalda muy bien esta afirmación. Ejemplos y referencias:

“ ¿Cómo pueden los niños de los mismos padres verse tan diferentes? ”Por HowStuffWorks

” Mi bebé no se parece en nada a mí: una explicación genética “ por FamilyEducation

Adicionalmente, aquí hay una anécdota personal. Tengo dos hijos cercanos a la edad de Freddie. Uno de ellos se parece exactamente a su padre y en nada a mí. El otro se parece exactamente a mí y no a su padre. A pesar de su apariencia, ambos son nuestros hijos biológicos. 

Conclusión

No hay una explicación razonable para alterar la apariencia del niño, particularmente para que se parezca más a Louis. 

No puedo pensar en un solo argumento de por qué la familia Jungwirth haría esto a menos que necesiten/quieran que el niño se vea de una manera específica.

7. El obituario oficial de Johannah Deakin no menciona al niño

Cuando estuve investigando sobre el babygate, leí el argumento de que el niño es legítimamente el hijo de Louis porque figura como el nieto de Jay en los obituarios y anuncios basados en internet. 

(Obituario: Libro parroquial en que se anotan las partidas de defunción y de entierro, Sección necrológica de un periódico.)

También leí el contraargumento de que el obituario oficial del periódico/impreso de la madre de Louis no menciona al niño. Yo recuerdo haber visto la prueba, pero no la guardé. Investigué un poco y esto parece ser cierto. 

Doncaster Free Press es un semanario local de Doncaster y publicó un artículo sobre el funeral. El artículo NO es un obituario en sí mismo, pero enumera los detalles del obituario. La publicación no incluye al niño entre los familiares sobrevivientes. 

Si se comete un error con respecto a estos detalles, es típico que los periódicos publiquen una corrección que aborde un error de imprenta. Tras una mayor investigación, Doncaster Free Press no emitió una corrección en ningún momento. 

(Nota del autor: Perdí a mi propia madre y conozco personalmente cómo se escriben los obituarios locales. Los familiares inmediatos, es decir, cónyuges e hijos adultos, brindan información sobre los familiares sobrevivientes). 

Conclusión

La conclusión aquí es sencilla. Louis y su familia optaron por no incluir al niño en el obituario oficial de su madre. Esto sugiere fuertemente que él no está legítimamente relacionado con Louis. 

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Has Louis ever mentioned Briana's name in an interview or text? Usually when someone announces the birth of their baby, they also mention that the mother and baby are both doing well.

He's literally never once said her name. I don't think he's ever even referred to her as "Freddie's mother" or something like that.

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whatever this is

So Briana posted this photo of Freddie on his birthday (which was about a week ago) showing his face. Briana is his mom, so I'm not going to judge what she does with this little one, but like I said, we only had to wait a few weeks before everything went back to normal. "Normal" so to speak, because the Clarks/Jungwirths have been very quiet about Freddie - Tammi didn't post anything and Ashley barely posted a birthday cake. The Tomlinsons, for their part, also went with the privacy strategy. This photo, however, was one crack among 10,000 more to come. Don't expect too much this year - when I said we'd get babygate content, this is what I meant. These little shows of "protection" for Freddie, and if Louis does another tour this year (I doubt it, but who knows) he'll definitely be mentioned. Though now I have my doubts about Freddie appearing at a future concert, maybe these things aren't working anymore. I wonder what the next move will be.

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Hi Gina I hope you are well.

I just wanted to say that it doesn't really matter what exactly Harry has done at this point. I am an extremely open person. Can we admit and said that what comes though is that even if it's not all true what goes around that club probably something it is!

For me is the fact that he went in a such extreme place (not just party in a club) makes it seem everything but not that he’s in a happy and healthy relationship.

What are you talking about? Why are you guys so fucking weird about him going to a club? The sex part of the club is completely separate from where he was seen. But even if he was in the other place what does that have to do with being in a “happy and healthy relationship?”

I stg it feels like none of you have ever left your house in your lives. The same kind of nonsense conversation happens when he’s at the Box. Or when he’s seen with a random man. Or when he’s seen with a random woman. Or when an anonymous receipt comes in about him doing anything at all that isn’t helping an old woman with her groceries.

Please, people. Get a new hobby.

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and does anyone know if the baby in the pic is Olive? Because it doesn't look like her??

I was thinking the exact same thing it doesn't really look like Olive .. I felt like that baby looked older/bigger? - maybe it was the positions if the kids? Not sure

Ok, so after looking at the photo for a couple minutes I realized it is Olive, she's just in a totally weird position and the pic was taken at a strange angle, so yeah Freddie is actually holding Olive, but still this strategy isn't gonna last, give them a couple months and everything will go back to being exactly the same, don't worry

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Larry 2024

(my recap of the most important moments plus a few comments here & there - for clothing stuff & everything music related I made separate categories & I tried to make the connections between some stuff obvious & also I included some of the things their familys/team/inner circle has done when I found it to be important/interesting - sources at the end)

Explanation: cursive = for other people,

{} = my thoughts/comments

January

- H is in Anguilla + pap shots on yacht (with Louis Shirt) + pics with stunt TR -> pap pic release 04.01.

- 06.01. Hs Mum on IG story writes on her pics 'This too shall pass..' + 'Force the smile take the photo ... Remind yourself you're ok'

- 06.01. Mirror posts article saying L and Eleanor are getting close again - Es actual boyfriend posts hot swimwear pic with her {lol}

- no mention of Fs birthday 21.01.

- 23.01. L tweets/answers his favorite snack is Chicken (and an ask about Fs bday 'it was lovely')

February

- H&L listed as partners on Google for the 3rd time

- 18.02 H doesn't attend TR stunts important event to watch football & it's a whole talk online about it

March

- 10.03. L likes post about Lime Bikes {LOL}

- 11.03 Lou Teasdale posts on IG story a meme of Ls Beatbox/Horsenoise Buzzcut interview {LOL LOL LOL}

- 17.03. Liam replies with heart to a comment on IG from @LarryStylinson_favtweets

- 19.03. L is in London with friends at John Mayer concert + H sighted at a flight to London

20.03. H (in L) papped with James Cordon/L MIA

21.03. L (in L) at sisters birthday party/H MIA

22.-25. both MIA

26./27. H in London (pap pics)

{-> TIME TOGETHER?! Pattern of one of them popping up while the other one goes MIA}

April

- 08.04. L non-denial interview using Total eclipse of the heart lyrics posted on Eclipse day -> Larry trends again, everyone falls down the Larry rabbithole, every news outlet reports about it {he also mentions for the first time in a denial that people are being unfair to his son F - OK}

- 10.04 Shania Twain posts TB from Hs Still The One (+ Anne reposts in her IG story)

- 10.04 Jack Whitehall (friend of H) posts a Tiktok in a teens room with H&L posters and says it 'looks like his bedroom at home'

- 10.04. Pleasing ad with white, orange, blue, green nails -> 'simple but effective' caption {baby boyfriends}

- 28.04. Anne on her IG story pic 'Kindness is my go to but fuck off is my wingman' {on the 28th how funny 😆}

May

- 13.05 Mark Tomlinson posts a pic 'My grandchildren' without F

- 15.05 Phoebe IG Story Chicken meal 'such a simple but effective meal' {OK GIRL WE SEE YOU}

- 19.05. after Tayrry BU articles drop Anne posts IG story pics with 'saturday night toast', 'off to the cinema' & happy sunday + H's photographer post champagne bottle in pool + Helen Seamons posts champagne & strawberries + Phoebe posts bathtub pic with 'End to a perfect sunday'

- 27.05 Anne on Podcast says 'my kid was happy as Larry' {what??? even if it's a saying in the UK}

June

- 11.06. Steve Aoki IG story selfie with streetmarket Art of queer legends/famous people H&L next to ea + tags L in the story

- 16.06 Daisy includes L in father's day collage + L posts about England & Jude Bellingham not even liking the post of Daisy

July

- 14.07 final of the euros in Berlin - both H&L attend -> pic with Ed, Lou & most likely H in the background photographed within reaching distance in the same room! For the first time in years! (+ Tumblr anon seeing them in VIP area talking about them meeting up, talking & splitting a few times!) -> media & fandom goes crazy {personally I find the pic of them a bit underwhelming because it's debatable if it's H}

August

- 03.08 L signs a fans midnight memories CD at a M&G on Harry {possessive much? Lol}

- 04.08 Charlie LeClerc (F1 driver) follows H on IG

- 09.08 in Lotties Book she talks about Lucky being her moms only grandchild wishing she could have met him (-> fandom & media goes nuts over excluding F/'confirming' F isn't a grandchild)

+ media article Lottie wrote herself confirms her wording

- Poster shows Homes Chapel 'Pride Street Party' is on 28 Sep🌈

- 28.08. 28clothing posts socks with 28 and a hand showing a rose ring on IG story

- 28.08 Team Ferrari posts Tiktok of Charles LeClerc with Harry's XFactor Audio 'I work in a bakery. I like .. serve'

- 29.08 L follows Charles LeClerc on IG {the following day of the Tiktok? LOL}

- 30.08 F1 makes Out Of My System Song of the weekend on their official Playlist

- 31.08 L attends F1 Grand Prix in Monza Italy & is photographed at Team Ferraris suite + commentator referred to L being in a band with H and mentions not being allowed to talk about Ls boyfriend {What the actual f#ck}

September

- 01.09. Charles LeClerc follows L on IG

- 01.09 L takes official pics with Author Tara Ramos whose book is named 'F1 Behind Closed Doors: Clown of the circus' {While smiling like a madman OK LOU}

- 17.09 Pleasing ad (with @elisasudara) same girl L was pictured in fanpic on beach in Spain {Wtf?}

October

- 12.10 Mark Tomlinson posts he misses Lucky and Olive no F

- 16.10 💔🕊️

- 27.10 Daisy includes F in a collage of Lucky's and Olives Halloweens

- 31.10. Mark Tomlinson posts only Lucky and Olive Trick or treating no F

November

- 01.11. Gemma posts a pic to her IG story with Lous 'It is what it is' (in the same font)

- 13.11. Harry Lambert/Helen Seamons (H stylist/L stylist) post the same Manet Shirt on IG storys

- 20.11 funeral ☁️ all boys attend, arrive separately & manage not being photographed together

December

- 05.12. Pleasing collab announcement ft. dick key chains (inverted colors are blue and green)

- H Fine Line anniversary video includes 3 clips of Harry's Kiwi performances (associated with bbg) Kiwi being a song on HS1 not fine line {🤔}

- 27.12. L in the background of Phoebes Snapchat

- 28.12. Daisy posts a pic from a bowling alley to her Snapchat including the name Freddi (people speculate if her and Phoebe babysit F because L isn't on the list of names) {is it even F? Where are the twins bowling - London? Doncaster?}

- 28.12. L is photographed + video in Doncaster restaurant/bar with different fans at least 5 times

~Clothing stuff 2024~

~ 03.01. H wears 'Louis' (Bode) Shirt in Anguilla

~ 25.01. H papped with LT Jacket and Tennis hat + 27.01. L attends Tennis event as a guest of queer friendly brand Piper Hideseick Champagne {supportive husbandsss}

~ L Melbourne Merch is babyblue advertised with pink background then merch color changes to green for BNE, SYD is pink & displayed on babyblue background {Fine Line is associated with pink&blue - supportive husbandsss 2.0}

(~ 02.02 L wears orange shirt with laurels to SYD FitF)

~ 29.02 L wears Boyfriend Jacket 🫶🏻 at F1 event and concert

~ 20.03 H & James Cordon pap pics - blue greening with their sneakers (+ H carries flower on 'national flower day')

~ 21.03 L wears Jeans Jacket with big lettering to Twins Birthday Party -> 'you can tell me what to do, I just probably won't do it' {so sassy Lou, love it}

(- 03.04. L wears Burberry Laurels Shirt)

~ 06.04. L says in interview 'Clothes tell his story'

~ 11.04. - (first sighting of) H (after Ls non denial) he wears a dark blue shirt with a little L 💙

~ 02.05. L wears Tanktop from gay brand BDXY called 'The Stunt'

~ 04.05 H Umbro shirt over a hoodie being papped on a lime bike in London (wearing Sneakers called Halo - coincidentally like the Shipname Halo which came before Larry Stylinson)

~ 12.05. L wears blue green (back)GAP/PAL(front) Hoodie at airport

~ 04.06. H pink Shirt with 'TOP' {okay Harold}

~ 12.07. H sings as surprise guest with Stevie Nicks at Hyde Park (first show after a whole year) & wears a green shirt & bluegreen birdie pin

~ 08.06 + 29.06. L Casablanca Rainbow Outfit {best fit of the year!}

~ 21.07 first gig L plays after Euros he wears blue green Casablanca Jacket {Come on Lou!}

~ 10.08 (after Lottie/F Book thingy) H being papped with hat 'I am the eldest boy' + L on stage with black and yellow fit {bee reference for larries associating bees with bbg?}

~ 04.09. H takes pics with fans wearing Grand Prix sunglasses while also bluegreening (also 28 days before AIMH tweet anniversary) {after L was at F1 Grand Prix - I see what you did there H}

~ 10.09 H pic with fan wearing LT Hoodie

~ 13.09. H wears white strawberries pin (white strawberries have sexual meanings ranging from c*mming on someones butthole to other things) {Harold, oh my god! LMAO 🤣}

~ 15.09. H papped and fan pics with cardigan in babyblue & shirt underneath looks like it says 'H L paradise' (Japanese designer)

~ 28.12 L pics/vids with fans out in Doncaster wearing his Pleasures Skull Cardigan (backside says 'What happend to you? What happend to me? Pleasures is PAIN' sentences divided by green lines {of course green 😂}

~ L&H are seen multiple times with the same adidas sneakers (on stunt/pap pics) for example camel Adidas sneakers (L's insides are green Hs blue) but also other matching adidas shoe modells

×Music stuff 2024×

× 02.02. WMYB is played after Ls concert

× L Love him/hate it during festivals/concerts:

*30.01 (and mouthed 'that's right'? after)

*22.06 (at pinkpop)

*several other clips/vids of mouthing 'him'

× 28.03. L Away from home festival poster drops (without dates)- with aqueduct like Homes Chapel

× 29.03. L Away from home festival poster looks like door with starry sky & starts on the day (8th of June) of the pride festival in Merida, Mexico (Merida as in the Disney princess from BRAVE)

× 30.03. L has a 1h set but decides to include 3 1D songs + covers 7 (during 7 all lights were red except one single green spotlight), rainbows on screen during JHO, pointed to 🏳️‍🌈 flag with 'Always You Larry' written on, during BTY big HIM on screen with the lyrics of the song

× April - hotspot puzzle for Ls Live Album promo were all Hospitals or Helipads = giant H's

× 12.04. {few days after non denial} Dylan is announced as opener for Ls festival (famous song 'You're not Harry Styles' & covers Kiwi)

× 15.05. during 'Silver Tongues' after 'no one understands me like you do' L says ✨oBviOusLy ✨ + during Saturdays one single green spot on him (again 3 days later)

× 24.05. L (first show after Trarry BU) on screens giant H and S + he sings Lucky Again (after 236days)

× 03.08. Ls big screen showing his 28 tattoo covered with a rainbow🌈 + during Silver Tongues after 'no one understands me like you do' he says 'no truer lyric.'

(× 18.08 L skips Walls but covers 7 nonetheless (&WDBHG))

× 06.09. L has giant H's on screen during 7 cover + L says 'Thats real' after 'Larry called a lot of smoke in' (fandom debates what he meant) {kings of plausible deniability}

- 16/19 festivals L has done he covered 7 - Catfish & The Bottlemen 🎶

{16 times? 1+6=7 we love a good 7 moment}

- L singing Where Do Broken Hearts Go (1D song written by H) at every festival {Why this song Lou?}

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Many crossovers with their stylists, photographers, friends & family mentioning each other, liking/sharing each others posts or attending events together = same circles

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SOURCES:

Twitter: @BKatie167 & her awesome GoogleDoc (which should include everything I mentioned & more!)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15mUV3fMuiBfz4zl1TziMeGQKmBYt7s6dyMneHA2c7RE/edit?usp=drivesdk

Also everything mentioned was/is discussed by @skepticalarrie @twopoppies and shout-out to my Larry friend @fookinhellcurly

Tumblr/Twitter: @hldailyupdate @fashionlouist

You should find vids/clips & discussions for everything I mentioned with a quick Tumblr or YT search 🔍

[boblarrys]

wann play the privacy games? well, let's see who loses first

greattt way for us to start the year, Daisy started with the privacy game?? Who's gonna break this first? Probably the Jungwirths, don't you think?? Eleanor, who btw I'll be mentioning in upcoming posts, was right to get out of this in time. 2025 (or should I say, 2017?) is gonna get intense. babygate content will pop up like foam and if this is the move they're planning, it'll vanish as fast as it started. a more detailed post about this is coming soon, don't lose faith.

Stay tuned lovie loves

[boblarrys]

I need to know why L's sisters are always the ones making trouble on social media and looking for attention. I really don't understand why them

Look, im going to give you an answer from PR because that's my life so why not lmfao. And since i've worked with one influencer recently, i have no doubts regarding what is happening at this point with louis' sisters.

Im going to try to explain this as short and succinctly as possible. and im really sorry to say this but this is how things work in real life, i beg you to leave your parasocial relationship with louis aside for three seconds to think coldly about the situation, because i know perfectly well how some of you take every statement made related to louis. several statements can exist at the same time, not everything is black and white, etc. thank you...

Some of you may ask, why always the twins? and there is, actually, an answer to that question. The answer, believe it or not, is not because Lottie is older than the twins. Partly her age is related, but it is not the reason itself... let's see:

Lottie started working as Lou Teasdale's assistant during the OTRA Tour, and since then and thanks to her, she got in touch with many important job opportunities that another teenager who does make-up well wouldn't have.

She has been in Fashion Week, worked for Selena Gomez, etc. Everything from a very young age. Today, she doesn't live exclusively from social media, as many believe. Her income is not only from "being an influencer", she has her brand tanologist, she published a book.... In Lottie's case, social media is a fundamental communication tool that allows her to obtain opportunities that generate income, but it is not her entire income per se.

On the other hand, Daisy and Phoebe were too young to take advantage of job opportunities at that time (1D days) because they were kids... they, again it may not seem like it, didn't have the same level of important job opportunities as Lottie had at such a young age. Lottie was at Fashion Week when she was 17... the twins are still very young and their proper working careers are just starting.

Phoebe and Daisy started their modelling careers in 2020 and to this day, they are involved in social media, promoting products (swaps) and modelling in small photo shoots. They haven't really had a big job opportunity like Lottie has had.

Unlike Lottie, they did not have the same visibility from the start and their income comes exclusively from social media. Modelling and swaps/promo are things they do through social media, their working tool is Instagram/TikTok. They need that platform for their income.

Now, if you have social media accounts set up as public and as a content creator you will know this, but for those who don't: those who create content on social media in this way (influencers, among other cases) have their own tool that helps them most to calculate how much they will earn and that is metrics. The famous "professional dashboard/insights" from Instagram for example.

To hire an influencer (in addition to doing a previous investigation of who you should hire) you should ask them for their metrics so that you can reach an agreement on the amount of money for that exchange/interaction/etc. A fixed base number is set, but depending on the reach, the more money they receive is directly proportional to the amount of interactions and views that post has had. Like on instagram if you share the post as branded content, the company you tag can see your metrics.

The fact that the twins are the ones who post content that they know people will go to their stories/posts/comments to see or will make them follow them on their social media is not a coincidence because the amount of people who interact with them (whatever the reason, as your personal reason is not seen on a metric lol) is what generates them revenue, quite literally.

Yes, it can happen that once in a while as something "casual" because they are people, but not as a generality and even less so when a few days later they do another promotion or they are in one. What is going on and whether it is right/morally correct or not are two different questions, by the way.

This is what happens, welcome to the world of influencers! It doesn't matter if you agree or not, if you like it or not, or whatever, those are your personal opinions (which are perfectly fine, we all have them) but... that's how it is. lol.

I personally don't think it's right to use babygate as a method of generating interaction, and just as I brought it to the attention of the clark family, I will bring it to the attention of the tomlinson's. the child is a huge victim of this, everyone is violating his right to privacy and honestly its disgusting to see after like 9 years. It seems to me that gaining interactions (that lead you to gain money) with such a horrible situation and with a child seems to me something that people should be ashamed of, to be honest. Beyond babygate, imagining that larry and babygate never existed, it's wrong to do this, it goes way beyond fandom, which i think is something a lot of people don't truly understand.

if you really want the twins to stop posting this kind of shit, im sorry to inform yall that the only solution to the problem is going to be to stop following them, stop looking at their stories, stop liking and viewing their posts, stop commenting, etc. any viewing/interaction is reflected in a metric, check it out for yourself (besides there are more metric apps than just the ones IG/Tiktok gives you). If you spread a screenshot taken by someone else or stuff, you are not interacting directly with their account, so it's not the same ofc, but if someone doesn't understand how it works, they will go and see it for themselves and and they will generate interactions. It's impossible not to have them on the radar, i know, so at least i ask yall to focus on what's really important, and not on every idiotic thing that happens, because that way they just make it worse, literally.

[boblarrys]

Hi Gina. Happy New Year ! ( hope I won't offend anyone with my message and my poor english).

I was here during BG and I was firmily convinced of Larry and that Louls was not the father. Like many people, I'm back now, after the news about Llam - and I still have very strong falth in Larry (especially after studying the recepts of recent years). What I want to say as a BG witness in real time: It was complete nonsense, full of contradictions and idiocy, fakes and lies. And I (like many people here) had only one thing beating In my head: Louis would never let his child go through this. But now, after years ... the biggest shit Is that Louis would never allow himself to use the kid the way F is being used, to make him a target on social media, to make a movie, to bring him to family, whom he protects, and I really think they are kind of simillar.

That's the fucking shit. It's just killing my mind.

I know, I believe that Louis is a wonderful person who could make mistakes, but he is a very, very good person. And all of this shit together just doesn't work in my head.

Neither of the two theories - Louls Is the father, Louls is not the father - just doesn't work for me. Although there are only two options: he's dad or he isn't dad (LOL) But both options are pointless for me.

So now I'm taking a step back from BG, I think (an you said) that Louls' fatherhood and Larry is olny Indirectly related to each other. I believe that Louis and Harry are finding ways for each other, that they are still strong. And everything else... well. I don't know the truth and just hope we will find out one day.

And YES, I think Louls - is one af the best people in the world with heart of gold. I'm not going to lie, it seems to me that some things need to change, and I hope it happens to both Louis and Harry (and already changing right now).

I think, darling, the very sad part of all of this is we just have to admit that Louis has made some sort of peace with using this child for whatever purpose he needs him for.

Whether it’s to avoid getting into legal trouble, to stop people investigating, to raise his profile… I truly have no idea. But it’s very clear something changed a few years ago.

I don’t think Louis is a bad person. But he and his family are using this child just as much as the Clarks are (more, if you consider that he has a much bigger audience).

As a parent, myself, I don’t understand any of it. Why do they have to drag the actual child into it? Post a photo now and then. Talk about him if you want. But don’t put the child into your documentary and don’t parade him around on your social media. We’ve never seen Bear. We’ve never seen Khai. It’s not necessary.

I’m so revolted by the whole thing.

[boblarrys]

just thoughts of mine

does anyone else pretend to be bbg on twitter to avoid getting canceled and called a thousand horrible names? or is it just me? cause I've found that's the easiest way to interact with people now that we're all too "politically correct" to mention freddie without getting canceled, I have two sides and it's great that no one from twitter would ever find me here lol

[boblarrys]

i said this a few days ago and I'm sticking to my position. they're feeding the narrative that he's with them when he probably isn't, that's why his face is covered with the giant emoji and the "freddi" in the Snapchat story.

confuse the audience and make them doubt, play the privacy game and then drop a photo of him with his face uncovered when they finally let you borrow him. predictable, as always.

Again: expect babygate content from the Tomlinsons

stay tuned lovie loves

no tomlinson christmas photo this year

well that was interesting, normally they always do these things to show how wonderful and loving they are to Freddie, but they probably ran out of opportunities since they went to America for "vacation."

just for the record, I don't hate any of Lou's family members. i think they're all good people and we need to have at least one Louis/Louis' family interaction with Freddie per year since we don't get "Louis and the girlfriend" content. eleanor left the scene (something that, let's be honest, they were already cooking up for a while) and I think she's gone for good this time.

i'll tell you the truth, I prefer the pr stunt content. hope if they make a move they bring that back and do it quickly.

this year's interaction was the "family reunion" for Grandma's birthday in the States, i don't expect more unless #they lent Freddie to tomlinson family for New Year's and he goes with them for a few days in January (say, until Lotts' baby is born)

If photos appear after Christmas, it is absolutely certain that he spent Christmas with the Jungwirths and that they took him to England for New Year's with the tomlinsons.

maybe next year the family time will be on his birthday (Freddie's birthday) and we won't have a Christmas photo with him AGAIN, although that would be pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

or we could have both, reinforce the image of the united family. Louis' album is coming up, another tour is likely to come too and of course Freddie will be at the LA show

they're exploiting babygate, wait 10 years until he turns 18 although with a little faith we'll know the truth before then, but we'll see yk

stay tuned lovie loves ;)

[boblarrys]

Daisy just posted on her Snapchat and she blurred the kid’s face

saw that, they're playing the privacy game

like I said before, they wanna pretend to be the most private family in the world lmao, it's also curious that Daisy's the only one posting anything about it

and does anyone know if the baby in the pic is Olive? Because it doesn't look like her?? On the other hand, it might not even be freddie, they love showing his face, so what game are they playing now?

we all know Phoebe isn't even close to being involved in these games,, i don't think she'd let her daughter be part of this situation so I doubt it's Olive, but who knows

[boblarrys]

you should stop talking and speculating about A KID you don't know online

wonderful way to start the year. like I said before, I don't give a damn about the hate, I'm gonna keep blogging, happy new year to you too!!

[boblarrys]

freddi? come on guys

i forgot to post (silly me, I didn't even take a screenshot though I'll probably get the image later) but recently daisy uploaded a photo of a bowling game scoreboard and Freddie's name was on it. daisy added text saying "best night ever," but many noticed that Freddie's name was written as "freddi," which led to the theory that it was impossible for an eight-year-old Freddie not to know how to spell his own name, and therefore it probably wasn't him. i slightly disagree with this theory.

Freddie is a long name, seven letters total, so the game probably didn't allow that many characters and he had to write his name without the 'e'.

now, going back to the photo, I have three theories: the photo is recent, Freddie is going to spend New Year's with them (just like I said in a previous post, see?) and photos of them together will come out after lottie's baby is born or after New Year's, maybe in early January, with ernie and doris too (who btw spent Christmas with their dad). a predictable move, as always.

the photo is from when they were in LA. no explanation needed, it's just a throwback to remind us they're always thinking about Freddie. typical.

the photo is recent, but Freddie isn't actually with them (someone else used his name) and they're feeding into the confusion. a classic "maybe he's with us, maybe he's not, think about it and decide." plus, in the game, everyone's faces appeared next to their names EXCEPT Freddie's. he had some other icon next to his name, maybe a video game one but I didn't pay much attention. weird, huh?

tbh I'm leaning more towards the first theory. they're predictable, it's easy to guess what they'll do, and they don't usually pull different moves during Christmas or holidays. Imma say, expect some Tomlinson babygate content!!!!

thoughts?

[boblarrys]