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The 1 am urge to start 15 projects and follow through with none of them in the morning.

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Its so odd being in shipping culture. There are so many interesting ways to fiddle with characters, their stories, and thier dynamics. I often think about the effectiveness and importance of shipping alot. Like, whether shipping is something that can carry the weight of cannon material and societal expectations for real people or whether shipping is something more light hearted and fun without the weight. Cuz I can see it both ways.

Its weird interactting with shipping and potential relationships while being Ace and Neurodivergent. I can get into the weeds about the effectiveness of a ship as if it were a science. Like, I can understand the enjoyment of shipping and the dislike of shipping.

On one end, I think relationship dynamics can often be simplified or watered down if they become romantic. Like, people can forget these characters should be friends as well as attracted to eachother. What I mean is that I find that friendships are often written to build on and explore preexisting character traits and romance or romantic feelings can be treated as "A whole new part of a person we've never seen before😍" but its just the character behaving in plot convenient ways that overide, neglect, or destroy their pre-established character traits. Ultimately it makes both characters feel flater and less like people and more like paper dolls. And theres the case of a character being infatuated with another and the writers selling it as love but the first character never really, trully face the complexity of the other character enough to demonstrate that transition into love.

Attraction should not blind a character to the others full depth of character nor should it rob them from their own.

On the other end, I think adding a romantic or sexual tension between to people can allow for a type of exploration into emotional maturity, conflict management, internal priorities, and personal growth on both micro and macro levels. This is if you keep the characters consistent from before and after they fell in love. Thier ultimate goals, thier passions, thier sence of self, etc. should not be discarded nonchalantly. If they are, it should be a point of tension as that not healthy.

Then their's the issue of whether or not it matters what kind of characters you ship.

On one end, one can argue "Yes, it matters as it can reflect you view on both the characters and how the relate to real life dynamics. Shipping distasteful or problematic ships can allow voices to those who wish to support, romanticize, and normalize toxic or problematic behaviors in real life." And to a degree I can see that. Certain ship types like Adult/Minor are completely off the table for me personally because they make me uncomfortable. And that goes for certain toxic/manipulative ships as well. They're too real to me and can give me the ick. But certain ships with big age gaps or a very specific toxic behaviors are perfectly fine for me. Im sure there's an essay or psychological study out there explaining that experience, but the line between acceptable and unacceptable can get blurry. (And that's when debates happen)There's also a general worry that the over saturation of ships only prove to accentuate the preexisting issue of oversexualization media has. I won't lie, I think some characters should stay friends because I just want more healthy, vulnerable friends in media.

But on the other hand, there's the argument of, "It isn't always that deep. Sometimes I see a character on screen and I play with them like a little doll. Like a barbie or action figure I make dance and fly around my room because I'm board and I like seeing these two characters kiss for the hell of it. I'm not worried about the cannon or the implications, I just find it fun to play a game of what if and leave it at that." I can also agree with this to a degree. I do this all the time, cannon be damned. Crack ships, ironic ships, self insert ships, ships that slowly become unironic and ruin your life bc you sound deranged if you say it out loud without full context. It's all very fun! The issue occurs when playing becomes the object of criticism. It could be something as mundane as a person pointing out the ridiculous nature of the ship and how "That's not even close to cannon" to something more damaging like when a person accidentally leans on to a harmful stereotype or mindset that upsets and offends another person. Like someone knocking over a relatives urn and shattering it because they weren't being as mindful as they maybe should've been. Then there's debates on what is expected of people to know, how accountable someone should be, what is the correct experience to have, etc.

And I say that last one as sometimes shiping and character analysis can be greatly informed and persuaded by personal experiences. People and thier experiences are never cookie cutter perfect and often don't align or agree with eachother. One person could take great offense to a ship or interpretation bc the character they relate to would "never do that" while a different person relating to that same character can say "Yes, they would" based on their own experience.

This turned into a bit of rambling. There is little to no solution to these opposing viewpoints. A lot of it boils down to people with different experiences and personality types having to share the same dolls in a play room. Some use the characters as a means to process reality, some holding them extremely close to their sence of identity and/or place in the world. And others see them as toys ment to be played with, separate from reality and expectations.

Anyways, I'm very sick, my head hurts, and I am gonna go vomit now.

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Ok, So I am consuming an absolute delicacy of an ace attorney fic right now and it has introduced a concept that I absolutely adore!!

This is fic, like many I've been feeding on recently, is centered around the first Apollo Justice Game. God! There are so many great fics for this game!

Anyways, it's a case fic where Klavier is arrested for the murder of Machi Tobaye and Apollo must find out what happened. Problem is, the evidence is stacked against them, Klavier isn't being cooperative, and the prosecutor seems to have a personal vendetta against Klavier.

Link to fic. Its super good! I haven't finished reading it yet, but I'm gonna go into some spoilers from here on out:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/64459669/chapters/165515974

One of the things I love about AA4 fics is trying to see how Klavier fits into this clunky found family Phoenix started. Maya feels like a sister, Pearls feels kinda like a niece, Larry is like a brother, Edgeworth is his life long rival and partner, Trucy is his actual daughter, and Apollo is his first proper apprentice.

But he kinda failed Apollo. Majorly, actually. To the point where Apollo saw him more as a nuisance/questionable father figure for Trucy at best and a lier/drunk con artist at worst. So Apollo relied alot on Klavier's help during his first trials quicky growing attached to him as a friend, rival, and partner. And Trucy also attached to him as he is fun, lighthearted, and happy to help.

So Klavier has cemented himself into Apollo and Trucy's lives, but he's also the person who put Phoenix out of a job. He was the one who called out the journal page. So Phoenix's opinion on Klavier has always been an interesting point of fan speculation that I really love to see in fics!

My personal favorite interpretation is that Phoenix recognizes that he shouldn't have presented to page as evidence in the first place. He can admit that. And even if Klavier was behind it, Klavier was a kid! 17 years old! And most likely, just listening to what his older brother told him. And from what he hears now, Klavier is doing good honest work and helping his kids in and out of court. Besides, Phoenix probably realized Klavier's minimal part in the disbarment after Phoenix's years of investigating.

Turns out the prosecutor with the vendetta against Klavier is Miles Fucking Edgeworth.

There's actually two other fics by a different author that play with this concept a bit more in depth than this fic as a side point, and I'll link them if requested-

BUT ANYWAYS!

Klavier being awkwardly accepted into this found family is great! What I wasn't expecting was resistance from someone other than Phoenix.

And everything just clicks into place. Miles Edgeworth has a very stong sence of right and wrong. Miles Edgeworth holds on to things. Miles Edgeworth had to watch the man he admires most in the world fall to unfathomable depths over a single forged note book page. Miles Edgeworth, a prosecutor fimiliar with the idea of repaying the world for the sins of ones past. To him, being young does not negate your actions or pardon you from reaping the consequences thereof. Klavier: The brother of a mad man. The friend of a murder. The downfall of Phoenix Wright. And in this fic, Klavier: The likely killer of a 14 year old boy.

And did I mention this case was stacked against Klavier? Because it is. And Apollo is fighting tooth and nail for this not guilty verdict. Against Miles Edgeworth. A man experienced in spotting bluffs and shutting down excitable defense attorneys.

Miles is not so blinded by his own bias to deny the evidence Apollo is able to present. Edgeworth's professional performance is still fair and direct. The truth of the case is still his top priority. It's during a private conversation with Apollo that he lays out his apprehension regarding Klavier's innocence, even offering condolences to Apollo for having misplaced his faith in his client.

It's here where Apollo begins to defend Klavier, not only as a client, but as a person. When Miles asks why Apollo is so adamant, Apollo replys, "Because I know him. He’s dramatic and pretentious and a pain when he wants to be, but he’s not corrupt."

And it's in this moment Miles stares at Apollo in silence. He then moves on from the topic, but MAN! I LOVE THIS!

I made a post earlier about how I would love to see Miles and Apollo interact more, and this fic! This wonderful fic! Delivered!

I need more of Edgeworth grappling to forgive those who threw Phoenix into the worst depression of his life when he can't even forgive himself for all the turmoil he's put Phoenix through! I need more of Edgeworth seeing Phoenix in Apollo! You can't telll me Edgeworth hasn't heard a certain spikey haired lawyer say similar things about certain "Demon Prosecutor" with the same amount of conviction!

God!... And you know Phoenix is always trying to work with him on this grudge he holds against himself and against other people who are actively trying to do better.

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Halp! I cant find that one sound that's a remix of the We Are Young song but its just the loop of "I know I gave -I gave- I gave-"etc but it sounds like "I gays-" over and over again!

My brain needs this itch to be scratched and google is not being my friend rn.

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Give Bobby a gun. Bobby deserves a gun.

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Ok So I recently watched Kpop Demon Hunters and Im gonna let it rot my brain for the next week or so.

Anyways, I have a thought about the demons!

The Saja boy's, right? Who are they? Or who were they? I have a theory! The Saja boy we know most about is Jinu. A man who made a deal with the devil that landed him in the palace and his family on the streets. We know since then Gwima has been nagging him, torturing him with his own insecurities and regrets to (sometimes) physically painful degrees. Jinu believes that if he erases those memories, he will be free of Gwima's toutrure and control.

But that sounds like an easy and obvious answer, doesn't it? If someone is attacking you you, take away their wepon. And you mean to say Jinu is the only one in 400+ years to make this deal? Not only that, but why would Gwima, an entity struggling to get any new souls and demons followers, be perfectly okay with this deal but then laugh at and actively discourage Jinu from looking to Rumi for freeedom? It's like he knows the deal won't work.

So, erasing ones memories won't severe the connection to Gwima or release them from the prison of the demon world. But they will lose a part of themselves. They will no longer remember anything of who they were and have no jumping off point to imagine what they could be. And it's not just the painful memories that Gwima will erase either. It's all of them. When Gwima asked if Jinu was ready to be rid of his memories, yes his anguished mother and sister were there, but so were the happy times with Rumi and what they had together. Gwima is going to erase ALL of them.

So if Jinu won't remember anything, he won't remember how he got in to the demon realm, he won't remember the hope of being free, he won't remember any connections he made in life or death, and he'll still have the marks that tether him to Gwima. I say that last part because we see Rumi's marks don't go away when she's confident and happy at the end of the movie. They are part of her. And they are part of Jinu whether he remembers how he got them or not.

Traped, tied down to the demon world with no hope, no regret, no spite, no happy memories, no light at the end of the tunnel, no motivation to push him forward. Jinu would likely become..

empty.

FINALLY TAKING ABOUT THE OTHER SAJA BOIS

What if they are people who made the memory wiping deal with Gwima and actually succeeded in the deal?

Whenever the boy's look human, they put on a performance, representing the different tropes of a boy band, and the internet has fallen in love with these personas (myself included [mystery is everything to me]). BUT! When they are out of sight, or just back in the demon realm, they deflate and go slack. Their sholders slump and their face drops. Their movements become slow, half hearted, and apathetic. They are tired, shallow, and empty.

Honestly, I can argue that the boys are gutted puppets of thier former selves with no individuality with any lingering personality stomped on by dispare and replaced to fit Jinu's needs. They have no hope in escaping, they have no future, no past, and they will die being nothing but a husk of a person left to wollow in misery they can't even remember the root of.

But that's not the whole story.

There are reasons the fans have attached themselves to these characters. Yes, a lot of it is projecting on to tropes and stretching various points of the movie to fit a pretty narrative, but it's important to acknowledge the points people have attached to. Little idiosyncrasies that don't really have a purpose like Baby riding on Abby's back when they run away from the girls, Mystery growling at the fans only to be easily reprimanded by Zoey (Romance probably has one I can't think of off the top of my head). These moments are often less than of a second of screen time, but they help paint a picture of who these people might be under the perfomance, the exhaustion, and the apathy.

It's reminiscent of masking when struggling with depression. Feeling a constant weight on yourself along with the struggle to feel or connect to anything on a deep level makes it difficult to maneuver around people. It's exhausting and people can see those struggling with this as two faced. In a way they have to be in order not to draw unwanted attention to themselves. To blend in. So that their faults and fears are never seen.

But there are a few points of levity. Those fleeting seconds when something stirs the soul. When something or someone might be worth hovering around, maybe connecting to like an anchor. When someone says fuck it and impulsively does something that accidentally makes them feel something. When your laugh comes from a little deeper in your chest. When you find others also struggling and relate to them.

I don't think the boys really connected to eachother during the run of the movie. I think they had good times, but really connecting and being open and vulnerable after lifetimes of solitude and apathy would take much longer with various steps forward and backward. But those points of levity, those moments of personality are proof of concept to me that it is possible for them to grow, to connect, and to make new memories.

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I love this list! I can get lost in the sauce when I'm mad at a character and I can miss these moments! One of my biggest gripes was that she felt like she just hated the entire cast for no reason. I'm gonna keep my eye out for these on my replay!

And you are absolutely right. I don't care for Ema's grouchiness. I still want to kick her out of the way at times... A lot of times. Talking with another person on this post, I think I discovered that I just don't like difficult characters that play key roles in a group projects like a job or a mystery. And while I don't fully understand it, I can respect the love people have for her!

Thank you for your list and quotes! I can't wait to play Soj!

I don't like Ema Skye, PLEASE Change My Mind!

Ok, so I'm replaying Apollo Justice and I have rediscovered the I absolutely hate Ema. I find she is rude, extremely difficult to work with (unless she has a science related dohickey in which case it feels like she couldn't care less about helping the investigation and only wants to drag people into her interest and if it doesn'thave anythingto do with her interest then your shit out of luck), I hate the munching of the stupid snacks, she feels pridefull and arogent at times, it feels like she genuinely dislikes Apollo at times dispite him doing literally nothing against her (I can sorta see why she dislikes Klavier, but at the same time I don't??[then again Klavier is my favorite so I am definitely biased]), and she just grinds my gears.

BUT! I have read fics where she an awesome character and an actual good friend. It's in these fics where I find her more interesting. What reads to me as genuine pessimism and cynicism is played more as sarcasm coated realism and she genuinely seems there for her friends even if she isn't always there for thier theatrics. I really like that Ema! but I don't see it in the first game (I haven't played aa6 yet, but I will. I think she's in there, so Idk, maybe she gets more positive characterizing moments)

I know there are Ema stans out there. I would love to know why you love her! I'd much rather like a character than bearly tolerate them especially when they play a key role in the games.

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I don't like Ema Skye, PLEASE Change My Mind!

Ok, so I'm replaying Apollo Justice and I have rediscovered the I absolutely hate Ema. I find she is rude, extremely difficult to work with (unless she has a science related dohickey in which case it feels like she couldn't care less about helping the investigation and only wants to drag people into her interest and if it doesn'thave anythingto do with her interest then your shit out of luck), I hate the munching of the stupid snacks, she feels pridefull and arogent at times, it feels like she genuinely dislikes Apollo at times dispite him doing literally nothing against her (I can sorta see why she dislikes Klavier, but at the same time I don't??[then again Klavier is my favorite so I am definitely biased]), and she just grinds my gears.

BUT! I have read fics where she an awesome character and an actual good friend. It's in these fics where I find her more interesting. What reads to me as genuine pessimism and cynicism is played more as sarcasm coated realism and she genuinely seems there for her friends even if she isn't always there for thier theatrics. I really like that Ema! but I don't see it in the first game (I haven't played aa6 yet, but I will. I think she's in there, so Idk, maybe she gets more positive characterizing moments)

I know there are Ema stans out there. I would love to know why you love her! I'd much rather like a character than bearly tolerate them especially when they play a key role in the games.

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I'M JUST SAYING-!

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Im currently playing through the last few cases of Dual Destinies and they're ripping my heart in two.

Anyway, I know the fandom recognizes Christmas for being a big deal because of the DL-6 incident and Edgeworth's trail that took place around Christmas Eve. But, if I'm not mistaken, Clay died December 15th, right?

What if there were a somber fic where Apollo has to cope with his best friend's 1st death anniversary near Christmas.

Apollo might go cold or quiet around the 15th. Slowly withdrawing into his work and not wanting to talk about it, especially with Trucy or Pheonix: one of which is excitedly preparing for Christmas and the other is busy with god knows what. He may be willing to talk to Athena, but if she pried into it before he was ready to talk, he might shut it down. If the office is really emotionally dence that day, they may even tease him for burrying himself in work or being a scrooge.

Edgeworth would visit for the holidays, a habbit that formed over the 7 year gap.

What if Edgeworth, who understands the conflict of handling extreme loss around a "happy season", helps Apollo by pulling him off to the side and talking with him; giving him a place to be seen and heard and not be brushed off.

Edgeworth's experience was PTSD inducing, but he's learned how to cope in certain ways. The coping doesn't bring back the one you lost, and it doesn't always heal what's been hurt. In those moments its okay to not "be fine". Its okay to mourn. Its okay to break. Its okay to not be okay. Everyone eles may busy themselves with preparations and festivities, but you can take the time you need.

I think Apollo would quietly begin crying while Edgeworth spoke. Dispite his famos chords of steel, not a single noise would leave his person. Edgeworth wouldn't even know when he started crying. It would be awkward as they're not the touchy feely type nor are they all that close so a hug might not be on the table. But I think Apollo would appreciate Edgeworth's attempt at comfort none the less.

Edgeworth might even suggest talking to a closer confidant like Klavier or Athena because they are good listeners and care about Apollo.

I think Edgeworth and Apollo are remarkably similar but also very estranged. I want to see them interact more and I think this would be a sweet moment.

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ok yea idk why i did this LMAO but enjoy?

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Do you ever think that the reason Mia aggressively dragged Feenie's ass to the hospital goes beyond saving Phoenix's life and that it was a desperate attempt to prevent anither client dieing at the behest of a mad woman that was responsible for her first client's death?

That she needed this one to pull through because if he didn't, she would have done effectively nothing in terms of preserving the quality and quanity of his life and arguably might bare some responsibility had he died as it was the intense trial that led both him and the former defendant to take such drastic measures?

That perhaps she holds that first trial as a deeply personal failure as a figure ment to protect and serve those who needed it the most and, god damn it, she's going to make sure that this one lives?

Because I do.

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I'm taking a moral philosophy class and I can't stand deontologists.

They're a just bunch of kants.

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Iris is an interesting one. If I may add to this, there were some rhetorical questions posed that I believe have very interesting answers.

The first one was What was stopping her from speaking out against the kidnapping plot when she might have believed Dahlia was dead?

I think it has everything to do with the pedestal she has accidently put Dahlia on due to thier familial connection.

You mentioned that the Iris dating Phoenix may have been the first selfish thing she does. I'd argue that this is not the case as her helping Dahlia's plot was the first self-serving thing she does, even though she ment for it to be for Dahlia's sake.

Let me explain with some background context.

Iris wants an ideal. She comes from a very broken house, but she still regards the idea of family very highly. Family is her priority. This could be because she felt unsafe and uncertain in the wake of her parents divorce and the idea of "If the family was happy, everything would be safer. If the family were together, it would be less lonely". I think this stuck with her and became the base of her issues. She would do anything to keep what little family she has intact for her own sence of safty and belonging.

Dahlia was rightfully angry about the divorce, and was going through many valid turbulent emotions regarding her father, her mother, her new sister, as well as getting unwanted attention from older men that were supposed to be safe adult figures. I believe Iris would've see what her sister was going through and would've wanted to help her even if it ment lashing out drastically. As long as it helped her sister, her last fragment of family, feel safer and help reconnect the two sisters. That's why she never tried to rat out Dahlia when it escalated to murder. That's why she didn't rat her out when she thought she might've died. She was clinging to the idea that they were family and that ment something. To Iris, it ment everything.

When it comes to answering the question Why didn't she do anything when Phoenix was arrested for a murder he didn't commit?, I think Iris wanted more than anything was to keep Dahlia from going to prison. Iris didn't want to be alone.

To avoid such a fate, Iris went out with Phoenix to get the bottle from him. But then she started to feel a sence of safty and belonging with Phoenix, one she probably hasn't truly felt in a long time. She wanted to follow that feeling, but Dahlia has always been, and still was her top priority. Pheonix was better at making her feel safe, but he was an uncertain option, thier relationship was based on a lie, and they had only just met where as Iris where as Dahlia and Iris knew eachother since birth. And family was everything.

I think Iris wanted both. She wanted a "caring sister" and a "loving boyfriend". This wish was not inherently wrong, but what was was that what Dahlia and Pheonix were reduced to placeholders for her ideals at the end of the day. That's why when Phoenix was taking the fall, Iris didn't do anything. The fantasy fell apart and she felt she needed to choose Dahlia or Phoenix.

I completely agree that Iris didn't "love" Phoenix in a healthy way. She wanted what he represented. He was an escape for her.

But I think that she thought it was love. And I think she still highly regards her experience with Pheonix enough to count it.

I don't think she fully realizes the enormity of her actions outside of herself because she is in such a state of constant feer and uncertainty that she ends up burring her head in the sand. This would not be helped by isolating herself on a mountain as it gives her all the reason not to face the consequences of her actions and lets her head stay buried out a self perpetuated version of her past fears and guilt. Still, thowing yourself into isolation and beating yourself up is no substitute for facing your reality head on and owning up to your actions even if those actions were done when you felt the world was against you. (*cough* *cough* edgeworth *cough* *cough*)

Still, the mountain retreat was not entirely bad for Iris. Far from it. Getting distance from Dahlia and finding a more stable sorce of care and affection from Bikini set her up to be able to accept the responsibility of her past actions.

Getting closure on her past while also holding her responsible for her actions is exactly what Iris needed to start moving forward.

That's why I think she told Phoenix at the end of the game. She's only starting to move forward and she still remember's Phoenix very fondly. If everything was different, maybe she could've learned to truly love him instead of relying on him. But times are different now and she has a lot of work to do before she can even attempt to approach that. And whether or not Phoenix would even be willing to open that door again is a whole other can of worms that completely depends on subjective interpretation. But the potential is still there regardless.

I don't think Iris had bad intentions. But I also agree that nearly all her actions were ultimately misguided and self-serving.

I really like Iris! I hope that came across.😅 This was a fun post! Thanks for the essay and the fic!

An essay about Iris Hawthorne

So I will preface this by saying that I am not an Iris hater but she never sat right with me after Bridge to the Turnabout. I'm a biased Narumitsu shipper but I do entertain other ships (helllllloooooo Langworth) but I couldn't get behind Feenris for a few reasons.

She's a victim, yes, but she's complicit as an accessory to crimes. We last see her serving time for covering up the murder of Misty Fey but this is just the one that caught up with her. There's been at least two times she was at least privy to Dahlia's crimes (the fake kidnapping plot, Valerie's murder, Diego's poisoning) but the real issue in my mind is that she did nothing after the fact.

Firstly, she could have spoken up after the kidnapping plot but did not. We could give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she didn't know that Dahlia was even alive, or that she could plead ignorance to what actually happened, but this is only the first incidence in a damning thread. Also, she still could have at least passed information along that suggested the kidnapping was not all that it seemed, given that Dahlia had tried to recruit her. And, if she believed Dahlia to be dead, what was stopping her from speaking out?

Secondly, and I'm putting her deception during her relationship with Phoenix to the side here for a second, why didn't she do anything when he was arrested for a murder he didn't commit? It's hard to be generous here because Iris was privy to all of Dahlia's plans (Violet, Fawles, Diego Armando) except the one involving Phoenix, but that's only because Dahlia kept her in the dark intentionally because Iris would have sabotaged it. However, she had to have been aware of what happened in the aftermath. Doug Swallows was murdered and Dahlia was, once again, at the center of it all. It was Mia, not Iris, who saved Phoenix. There's no evidence to suggest Iris was somehow unable to take action because she just went back to Hazakura afterwards. She never provides any excuse as to why she failed Phoenix when he needed her the most.

Now, back to Phoenix, here's where it gets fun. I am going to posit that her falling in love with Phoenix and wanting to protect him from Dahlia is for her benefit, not his. This is also, ironically, the first time Iris does something selfish. She fell in love with him and wouldn't let Dahlia kill him, but that's because for the first time in her life she wanted something. But I can't accept this protectiveness as romance. If she wanted what was best for him, she would have done something, anything either before this point or at the time of his arrest even if it meant getting into trouble. She, once again, chose to obscure the truth and instead did nothing.

Further to that, I can't accept her actions at Bridge to the Turnabout as anything but self-serving. She continued to hide the truth until it was presented to her. It was only at the eleventh hour that she confessed she loved Phoenix all along. It doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in her motives.

Now, all of this actually makes her a more interesting character in my eyes, so again, this isn't an Iris hate essay. She's tricky to get right in a Narumitsu context but here's a shameless plug to my story if you want to see my take on it: https://archiveofourown.org/works/63292576/chapters/162138757

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So I'm slowly getting through Dual Destinies and I have formed a single thought.

I want to know if anyone has theoretically put Defence Attorney Aristotle "Get a Innocence verdict by any means" Means

And Prosecutor Manfred "Perfect Guilty Record" Von Karma

In the same court room.

Make it intense! Put their rep on the line!

I wanna see the cat fight! I wanna see these petty ass old men swiping at eachother! Not letting eachother finish a scentice! There might not be any real evidence by the end of the case!! These two would be playing underhanded 4D chess with daggers up thier sleves in a nonsensical Kangaroo court!!

Who would win? How? What would that mean for the case? I need to know!

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Ah yes, my favorite characters.

Martin Kartin Blackwood

Jonathan Sims Head Archives of The Magnus Institute, London

Joe spooky

Not Calliope

Victorian Harlet wearing a Stoner Twink

Lost Emo Child

Michael 1-5

Sky Grandpa

And Helen :>

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might fuck around and walk into a thick fog and never return idk