daddyrants

[daddyrants]

I am literally laughing my ass off at this point because you STILL refuse to acknowledge the point I was making. Instead you try to make everything about me being a `Destiheller`. I literally mentioned it once, when I said that I am NOT trying to prove that it is canon. Stop making this about something entirely different.

Also you said that I should stop sending you dms and hiding in them. I send you TWO messages to which you replied with TWO long messages of your own. After that I already stopped replying. Oh and guess what I was also doing in my previous post I was putting this out on a public platform and not hiding as you called it. I only messaged you because I did not want this to end in a huge ass debate or anything. THAT IS IT.

But you are right you do not owe me anything but if you make a certain argument you should be able to back it up that´s just how things work.

As for nobody caring about my opinion, well that is the part which made me laugh the most because at least you seem to care enough to reply pretty fast and in long posts whenever I say something. You literally contradicted yourself there. But even if you did not reply I wouldn´t care, whether or not people care about my opinion is not going to stop me from saying it. 

Seriously this is the internet and if you make a post saying something that I disagree with then I can say that. You have no right to tell me I shouldn´t just come to your post. People with different opinions exist and if you don´t want to hear from them then don´t post this on a public platform for everyone to see.

Oh and just to let you know I was not even actively looking for a discussion about this topic, I was in the Connor Walsh tag when I came across this post.

Anyways since you do not seem to want to listen to what I was actually saying I will not take anymore time out of my day to hear you repeat the same points over and over again.

I will say it one last time however:

All I wanted to say is that Connor Walsh is not the same as Dean Winchester and your comparison is shallow and flawed.

Their sexuality serves different purposes, for Connor it is a huge part of his character and a reason for certain developments.

For Dean his sexuality is still part his character, of course, but it did not have a huge influence on him as it did for Connor.

Therefore saying that nobody should view Dean as bisexual just because nobody is doing it with Connor is wrong!

I am not  saying that Dean is bisexual.

I am not saying Destiel is canon.

How is Connor Walsh, a character from How to get away with Murder, who has dated and slept with only men, and has stated that he is gay, Any different from Dean Winchester, a character from Supernatural, who has dated and slept with only women, and has stated that he is straight?

Why is it different with homosexuals? If a gay man sleeps with only men, we have no problem saying he’s gay. If someone asked you why you think Connor Walsh is gay, and not bisexual, you’d say because he has done nothing but show interest in men and has stated that he is gay. But if someone says that Dean Winchester is straight, because he has only shown interest in women, and has said he is straight, he could still be bisexual? There is literally no difference. NONE. Because you know damn well if someone started shipping Connor with a woman and said he could be bi you’d say the same thing people against Destiel would say. BUT HE HAS ONLY SLEPT WITH MEN AND HE EVEN SAID HE WAS GAY!!!! So don’t act like you give a shit, you just want your sexual fantasies to come to life.

[daddyrants]

Okay since you seem to think I am so afraid of other people on the internet I am going to show you that you were incorrect. I know that not all people will agree with me on this but that won´t keep me from saying it.

So first of all you don´t seem to have gotten the point I was trying to make. I was not saying or trying to prove that Dean Winchester is bisexual! Neither was I saying/ trying to prove that Destiel would become canon or anything. I never even mentioned Castiels name or said anything about their dynamic until now.

But I get why you have made that mistake, I was in a rush yesterday so what I was saying was far from a clear statement.

The point I was actually trying to make was that Connor Walsh and Dean Winchester can not be treated as exactly the same. In Connors case there is not one scene that could make the viewer doubt his sexuality. 

In Deans case however the show leaves room for interpretation. Again I am not saying that Dean is actually bi in the show. I even agree with you that if they had wanted to make him bi they would have done it earlier. But at the same time I do think that the scenes I mentioned and for example the one with Dean and the bdsm guy in that sex dungeon are deliberatlely written in a way that leaves it up to the viewers interpretation.

Yes, he has said that he is straight. But there are characters in other shows who are denying their sexuality up until a certain point, just look at Mickey for US Shameless for example. And as I already said Dean denying how he feels is nothing we haven´t seen before. So again this can be up to interpretation. (I am not going to count Jensen saying that Dean is straight into this arugment. It only applies to people who have just watched the show and nothing more, plus I asked you to back your argument up which you did not.)

This is also how I would interpret Deans and Castiels relationship. I know they are not a couple, and never will be but again some of their interactions can be viewed in a different way than them just being friends. After all for a lot of people this tension and the hope of one day Destiel being canon, is a reason to watch the show. 

To sum all of this up I´d say Deans character is written in a way that leaves enough room for interpretation for most viewers to be happy with, ergo the people how want to see him with a guy get shown the tiniest of hints that there might be hope, while people like you who want to see him as straight can still say that the others are reading too much into this. And that is the reason why Dean being bisexual is not viewed as something completely unrealistic or unexpected, at least for those people who see his character in that way.

Connors homosexuality on the other hand has been an undoubted part of him since season one. The reason for that is that he is already giving the fans who want to see a gay couple, what they want and at the same time there are plenty of other characters in the show who are in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex. And another important difference is that Connor being gay is much a bigger part of his story/character than Deans sexuality ever will be for him. We all know that if Connor would also be into women he would be a very different character than he is as a gay man.

I hope this made clear what I was actually saying. 

How is Connor Walsh, a character from How to get away with Murder, who has dated and slept with only men, and has stated that he is gay, Any different from Dean Winchester, a character from Supernatural, who has dated and slept with only women, and has stated that he is straight?

Why is it different with homosexuals? If a gay man sleeps with only men, we have no problem saying he’s gay. If someone asked you why you think Connor Walsh is gay, and not bisexual, you’d say because he has done nothing but show interest in men and has stated that he is gay. But if someone says that Dean Winchester is straight, because he has only shown interest in women, and has said he is straight, he could still be bisexual? There is literally no difference. NONE. Because you know damn well if someone started shipping Connor with a woman and said he could be bi you’d say the same thing people against Destiel would say. BUT HE HAS ONLY SLEPT WITH MEN AND HE EVEN SAID HE WAS GAY!!!! So don’t act like you give a shit, you just want your sexual fantasies to come to life.

[daddyrants]

Here are some of the reasons why I can still think that Dean could be bisexual which you have seemed to forgotten about / overlooked whatever. 

First of all remember that episode with the sirens where Deans siren was a guy? I know that the reason for that was that what he desired most was that he wanted a brotherly figure back in his life, because at that point his relationship with Sam was nothing like it used to be. But the guy had next to nothing in common with Sam, instead he had mostly the same interests as Dean such as the same the is music for example. If Deans biggest desire at that time had really been a replacement for Sam then why would the guy who showed up be way more like Dean? To me the dynamic between them was way more that of partners than brothers which only makes sense since a sirens ultimate goal is to seduce their victims.

Secondly there was an episode in which a guy pretended to be flirting with Dean but instead of saying that he was not into men Dean only mentioned (twice) that there was a federal investigation going on and that that was the only reason he had spoken to the guy. It would have been way easier to say that he didn´t swing that way but Dean just did not do it. Plus we see him get pretty flustered while talking to the guy, so much in fact that Dean runs into a table afterwards.

In conclusion I would say that eventhough Dean has only had sex with women before there are still scenes(there are more than two, these are just examples) which cause us to doubt that he is entirely straight.

How is Connor Walsh, a character from How to get away with Murder, who has dated and slept with only men, and has stated that he is gay, Any different from Dean Winchester, a character from Supernatural, who has dated and slept with only women, and has stated that he is straight?

Why is it different with homosexuals? If a gay man sleeps with only men, we have no problem saying he’s gay. If someone asked you why you think Connor Walsh is gay, and not bisexual, you’d say because he has done nothing but show interest in men and has stated that he is gay. But if someone says that Dean Winchester is straight, because he has only shown interest in women, and has said he is straight, he could still be bisexual? There is literally no difference. NONE. Because you know damn well if someone started shipping Connor with a woman and said he could be bi you’d say the same thing people against Destiel would say. BUT HE HAS ONLY SLEPT WITH MEN AND HE EVEN SAID HE WAS GAY!!!! So don’t act like you give a shit, you just want your sexual fantasies to come to life.

[daddyrants]

Since some people still don´t seem to get it...

You can ship WHATEVER you want. The only thing that matters is that it doesn´t hurt people in real life! It does not matter whether the ship is incest, abusive or toxic in any other way. Yes, I 1000% agree that anything like that in real life would be horrible and I do not support it. In fiction however you can do what you want.

But if I you come for people who ship something you do not like, no matter what it is, then you are the problem! You are the one that is making a fictional ship an issue in real life. You are the one hurting people because of something that is not real!

If you don´t like a certain pairing then ignore whatever fanart, fanfiction, cvm, etc. you come across and move on!