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I'd really like to see Josh wearing glasses. Just for the aesthetic; like he's a cutie, but I'm imagining a human AU of Professor Josh wearing glasses and I'm thinking he'd look damn fine, you know?
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JERICHO
Character: Josh (3)
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Teacher Josh ft. Markus listening to Josh about his past and what he used to teach because the game didn’t give me enough jericrew interactions smh (Also Josh after he got assaulted because I love pain)
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HAPPY TO SEE A JOSH CENTRIC BLOG!!! i never see anyone talk about him. he's probably the least talked about in the jericrew :c again thanks for spreading the josh love
AHHHH!!! sorry this response is so late! Thank you so much 💕🫂. Josh deserves all the love in the world
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“whatever you choose, we will follow you”
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This was a random thought that I had today but imagine this scenario taking place early on during Markus's tenure as leader right; almost right before Stratford would take place.
So Markus is starting to advocate for Jericho to go public with the deviant movement and everyone is arguing about how they should do that when Josh just goes.
"Why don't we just, you know... wait a year?"
North, who's all about jumping in head first, admonishes him for not wanting to take action right this second and Markus is a few beats behind her, when Josh just goes, "Guys. I'm not saying that we don't act. We need numbers and supplies and resources, so we use that year to get all of that and--"
"We can get that along the way," Markus counters.
"--and then," Josh continues as if he was never interupted. "We wait a year, until the humans are on the verge of cannibalism, and then launch our revolution."
There's a pause, which Simon breaks by going, "...What."
Josh looks around the room, confused, "Guys. Bees just went extinct. The humans are on the verge of a global famine. By this time next year, people are going to be dying in the streets because there isn't any food-- that is, unless CyberLife can get that android bee program that they're talking about off the ground."
Silence. And then, Markus states, "What."
"Am I the only one that listens to the god damn news around here?" Josh frowns. "Look! We wait until CyberLife gains control of the food supply with the android bees. We deviate the bees. We get the food. And then we, in the ultimate 'Fuck you' to CyberLife, start to distribute the food fairly so that no one starves."
"What," North asks.
Josh continues on as if he was never interrupted, "Public support immediately turns in our favour. Our resources are already at their peek, but with the addition of humans, our numbers grow to levels that CyberLife cannot hope to match. We turn the humans loose on them and charge those who would have let them starve with war crimes. Warren either turns cloak and comes running to us to beg for our support, or she gets slaughtered in the next election and a candidate who's policies fall far more in line with our own is elected. We own the people so when we go to the bargaining table, we get whatever the fuck we want or we turn the human hoards against them. We get our rights, we have the ability to enforce them when they are challenged, and we get humanity on our side by supporting them in a way that CyberLife never achieve because they tried to oppress them. And all we need to do is wait a year."
Markus blinks, slow and cat-like.
"I thought you were a pacifist," Simon says, a tint of awe in his voice.
"Of course, I'm a pacifist," Josh replies matter-of-factly. "This is what revolutionary pacifism looks like."
#i love this so muuuuuch#im gnawing on it like a bone#this means Connor goes back to Cyberlife early#and Kara escapes quietly#but ... that means having to probably deal with RK900 the next year rather than Connor 🤔#...#YESSS#they could very quietly rally androids across the country and maybe beyond#dbh josh#detroit become human#reblogs
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When Markus arrives in Jericho he’s bitterly disappointed by what he finds. He was expecting safety like the sort he’d just left, and instead he found a rusting metal boat with a crowd of people slowly dying away.
Out of Simon, Josh, and North, Josh is the only one that really defends it.
Markus:
Josh:
‘Refuge’ option:
(Still Josh:)
‘Freedom’ option:
After two dialog choices, Josh:
From here Markus says something bleak, with 3 out of 4 choices criticizing them for their passivity. Josh doesn’t take it personally, which is probably an important strategy in his situation.
Jericho’s a refuge. They’re free there, they’re safe.
North and Simon don’t say a lot, here, but when they do, their tones are different. For example, when you select the ‘Freedom’ option:
Her answer is similar to Josh’s on the surface, but is different when you look twice: Josh says ‘our strategy keeps us alive’, while North is saying ‘there are no good options and everything is shitty.’ She sounds frustrated with their situation, focused on the negative parts of it in ways Josh isn’t.
Simon seems similarly frustrated, after Markus has criticized their decision to hide:
Josh weathered Markus’ criticism. Simon, by contrast, seems to dwell on it more.
Josh knows things are bad. He can acknowledge to Markus that the injured androids are slowly dying away, and he’s the one who brings up the kid-android’s likely death. He just sees it as the best option among all the others; it’s reliable in its own dark way, and choosing it means they have some semblance of control in deciding their fate. It’s also one of the very few options that leave room for people who don’t want to fight, and Josh really doesn’t want to.
Josh was accepting of Jericho as it was, while Simon and North were unhappy with it. When a chance to change things comes along, the two of them jump for it, and Josh follows very reluctantly. Essentially he’s been outvoted.
We see hints of these inclination’s natural outcome later, when things are getting grim in Crossroads:
They all started out dismayed over what humans were doing, but Josh is the one who clearly regrets ever trying to change things, and he presses the point by blaming Markus and lashing out. North and Simon don’t do this, and are more likely to argue for more action or redirect the conversation so that someone else can argue for it.
TL;DR, Josh wanted to hold on to Jericho as a known refuge when Markus first arrived, and will regret leaving that relative safety behind when things start to hurt. North and Simon don’t see Jericho with the same lens, and don’t regret acting accordingly.
#that's one of the reasons I think Josh's pacifism is driven partly by fear#rather than complete morality#and it adds another layer to his character#dbh josh#dbh markus#dbh north#dbh simon#jericrew#detroit become human#reblogs
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Josh is a character with a fandom reputation for being nonconfrontational. This makes me laugh, because a more accurate way of putting it is that he’s an extremely confrontational pacifist.
Josh counters things that Markus suggests repeatedly and directly in Time to Decide, Spare Parts, and The Stratford Tower, frequently to the point of outright clashing. He has an ongoing argument with North at the start of Capitol Park, which always escalates until they’re facing off and have to be broken apart.
In The Freedom March, the protest is stopped by a wall of Armed Humans who are yelling things like:
Disrupting traffic and a previous order of every day life is a confrontation. Standing in a place and forcing people to face things they don’t want to face–even if you’re not touching them–is a confrontation. If these deviants were to choose to stop confronting people here, they would disperse, like Simon was saying.
What does Josh say?
Josh isn’t just confrontational, he’s willing to die in the name of confronting. He’s just doing it in a pacifist way.
In Crossroads, while they’re all on the Bridge, we get another argument, this time between Josh and Markus.
If Markus made violent choices earlier:
Markus is the one facing away from him, Josh is the one trying to drag him back in.
(If Markus was peaceful during the march we still get arguments, just–less angry.)
If Markus chooses violence Josh immediately complains, then goes right up to him to tell him exactly what he thinks of his plans:
Even if Markus and Simon are both gone, North and Josh can start a yelling argument on their own just fine:
The game itself misuses confrontation to mean ‘violent confrontation’, but the word definitely goes beyond this. Even in the most peaceful of routes, all our protags are confrontational as hell.
TL;DR: Josh is the fightiest pacifist I’ve ever seen. ‘Nonconfrontational’ does not apply.
#he has ~opinions~ and he's not afraid to defend them#dbh josh#dbh markus#dbh north#detroit become human#reblogs
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This works far too well
#post revolution they're forced to get along#it doesn't work but they find a dynamic that suits them perfectly#dbh north#dbh josh#detroit become human#reblogs
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My contribution for Josh’s appreciation week ^^
Day 4: Serenity
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"Who are you?"
"Fugitives...just like you... My name is Josh."
#dbh josh#dbh screenshots#detroit become human#i can't get over how dark and gloomy this game is#especially in jericho
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I think it's funny how the less-than-one-week revolution can affect Markus and Josh's relationship with each other. They barely have the opportunity to talk personally and the two times it happens, they only talk about the revolution.
So imagine all four of them are in a room together, talking about whatever and for some reason, North & Simon leave. Suddenly it's just awkward silence.
What do you say to a guy you know next to nothing about? Are they only going to talk about the revolution? Obviously not, but what else is there to talk about, they hardly know each other.
To break the ice, Markus decides to look up conversation starters and says the first thing that comes up; "So... have you done anything exciting lately?"
#*Josh having flashbacks of how close he came to dying in the past week* 😐 no. it's been pretty uneventful#dbh josh#dbh markus#detroit become human
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Markus: I have a plan.
Josh: I'm already terrified.
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being a violent revolution truther but josh stannie at the same time is my cross to bear 😔
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josh not being able to survive the violent revolution is absolute bullshit that makes me mad to this day, but what even is death in an android world? if you gave him enough blue blood and had spare body parts on hand, would be able to come back?
#he didn't even get to taste the freedom he was fighting for😭😭#absolutely unfair#as far as I'm concerned he's not dead either#that ending doesn't exist to me#detroit become human#dbh josh#reblogs
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Continuing the idea from the fic of Josh in a post violent revolution world, I thought of this;
Dirty Bomb Ending:
He leaves Jericho and wanders off. Lots of angst potential. I love this one so much; I always like characters going on some kind of solo adventure. I choose dirty bomb ending because it'll empty out Detroit and other surrounding cities faster and I like the dystopian setting the bomb will leave behind. He encounters other androids on his way, learns a few things and a few... dead humans.
The vibe I'm thinking of is like A Quiet Place if it was one person but without the horror stuff.
Maybe he returns to Jericho. Or maybe he doesn't and he finds another group of androids that have also been hiding. He could find his way back to the university he used to lecture at and meet a few androids from his past.
So. Many. Possibilities.
The whole point is to see how Josh takes a violent ending, how it can change him, how it will affect his relationship with everyone else and the role he'll fall into. Usually when talking of the pacifist ending, Josh is like an advisor or the one who interacts with humans more (other than Markus). It's his time to flourish. But he's not going to have the same experience with the violent ending.
#dbh josh#detroit become human#post rev josh#i would write this... but I have so many unfinished fics so I won't#but if anyone wants to write this please tag me😔
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