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I’m transmasc and my girlfriend is transfem! We thought it was cute and funny. My girlfriend specifically loved it and is using the blushing reaction/Gangle saying that Jax seemed like a person who would’ve wanted it as evidence that Jax is an egg trans woman. This is an idea she thought of prior to the episode because the creator is a trans woman who said that she based some of the character off herself. The scene honestly made me like the idea of Jax as a trans woman in denial as well!

Question, cause I do not want to be offensive in any way to the trans community, who I am asking this to specifically:

Do you find this joke in the episode offensive? Or is this fine?

If you DO find it offensive, it's okay to admit that.

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I want Carol to be the Roaring Knight so bad. If December is a red herring and actually is dead, it worked perfectly because I saw so many people saying that it’s her and that Carol couldn’t be the Roaring Knight because she’s old or smth. Not to mention the aura™️ that she’d have with a full set of armor??

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I have a bad feeling that Jax’s fear of corn has some kind of backstory :(

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I'm so sad that Kris isn't attracted to Berdley because I think it would be fucking hilarious if they were. Specifically, if interactions between the two became unavoidable, so it's this tables have turned situation where nobody gets to escape from seeing Berdley as an annoying boyfriend (even the audience).

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I don’t think this was Toby Fox’s intention at all, but the amount of ellipses over the phone and the choppy sentences that Carol speaks in when she shows up for the first time had me imagine her voice as Senator Palpatine after he gets attacked and he starts looking evil??

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I haven't seen anybody else say this anywhere, so I figured I would ask: Were the lightning bolt cheek marks for Solaria an intentional choice? Sure, Solaria wields a glowing, jagged sword for her wand, but double lightning bolts are a well-known Nazi symbol and that's an extremely coincidental design choice for a genocidal, fascist character. But I also feel anybody who worked on the show can't confirm this either because that's such an intense thing to put in a kid's show.

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Posting this out of surprise

Igor actually has some fan activity in recent years? I remember looking around in 2020 (and periodically throughout the 2010s) and finding nothing.

Did I miss something or did people rediscover the movie?

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Just remembered this weird little fun fact that the main antagonist was supposed to be a commentary on George Bush?? It was mentioned in a special feature track on the CD.

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In light of recent events, but can be applied at any time:

If a trans person in the media is outed as a terrible person and people immediately start being transphobic, they probably were in the first place and were looking for the opportunity to do so. Unfortunately, a trans person in the public eye being good isn’t the thing preventing droves of people from being transphobes.

A person who wasn’t transphobic wouldn’t be acting like a person’s identity is something that can be taken away based on behavior. If the person acknowledged trans identities as valid, why is there arguing about who’s good enough to have earned being transgender?

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Media illiteracy is very much a thing, but I think it’s also true that if a lot of people leave a piece of media not knowing if the creator is for or against an issue discussed in the story, it can just be bad writing.

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This may not make any sense, but Walmart Superstores are like unethical dog breeding to me, yk?

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Queen could be extremely skilled at video games if she ever played them because she’s a computer (smart), she just wouldn’t take it seriously enough to put all that energy into it.

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Comic I had been drawing on-and-off where Velvet has a completely normal time about the stress of having a rapidly increasing fanbase in her shared dressing room.

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I wouldn't even consider this to be a serious complaint, but I'm putting it in the critical tag regardless because the fanbase can be very interesting sometimes. I've seen a good number of posts about how the body types should be more diversified, but I also feel that the character designs would benefit by making a couple of visibly older characters? I specifically think Husk would look more interesting if he had features that were more reflective of how he was in his sixties to seventies when he died. I feel that additionally having a plus sized body type would break up the sameness in the main cast but also be reflective of how much drinking impacted his body. While Alastor is supposed to be in his thirties(?), I think it would be neat if he were aged up to look a lot older! A physically older design could match his overall vibe more and that he is a has-been that nobody seemed to notice or miss when he disappeared for seven years.

Though I must say that the amount of skinny, youthful characters is a pretty widespread problem in art spaces. Hazbin Hotel is just one of many examples.

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I love that the fandom has agreed that Velvet and Veneer are twins. Velvet implies at one point in the movie that she's actually older than her brother, but I like to think that she was just born a few minutes before him or something.

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Panel from a comic I may or may not finish where Velvet is having a normal one in her shared dressing room.

The dialogue is a rant I ad-libbed and am only partially confident about how canon-accurate it is, but here's the full text if anybody wanted to read it:

"Do you ever feel like our fans are going to get bored of us? They're always asking for more and it's annoying me a lot. I'd never let those losers tell me what to do, but I'd die before anyone catches me slacking! This look is cute, but I've done it a million times before. I think I'm going to do something a little more extra? Glamorous is all what I'm about, so I totally am! I'm iconic, I'm pretty, I'm young. I'm sixteen, I'm not thirty and old or anything. Blegh! We're still the trendiest celebrities on Mount Rageous! We're not nobodies like we were before, and I'm never going to go back to that place. I did so much for us to get here and I'm not going to lose it! Our fame is the best thing that has ever happened to me. I wake up every morning and I think to myself, "I've got a million people who love me" and it's the best feeling! You get that, right? Yeah, you totally do! Why the fuck aren't you saying anything? Are you listening to me right now?"

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Overanalyzing the flashback scene because why not?

I've seen some people throw around jokingly that Velvet is "delulu", and "crazy", and stuff, but I legitimately think that she might believe some of the lies that she says. What makes me think this, you may ask? The flashback scene. I'm referring to is where the viewer sees the point of view from both siblings about what it was like when they were younger. It's quoted a lot because it's hilarious, but I've been thinking about it a lot lately.

There's three major elements that I considered while interpreting it: the tone/expressions of the characters, the people involved in the interaction, and how the flashbacks are utilized.

To start, Velvet is having a conversation with her brother. This is a person who lived in the same household as her and would know the most about her out of the entire cast. Velvet's argument to Veneer about not releasing Floyd to continue their lifestyle is that they would have to go back to an awful place, which would bank on him having that same perception. Her expression is very serious and upset as it transitions into her flashback.

The interpretation of "a dark place where we had nothing" is not left to the imagination, with a scene of the two starving and living in poverty. It cuts back to the current time, and Veneer states as if he were responding directly to the flashback, "Girl, we grew up in the suburbs. Our parents were dentists." Veneer doesn't hesitate to say this as what she had described is objectively false.

Both flashbacks take place in the same setting, but there are some key differences between them. The first flashback has them both filthy and holding the same bowls as the second flashback, but they're empty. The second flashback has a full table, and the table has no food in the first flashback. Velvet's interpretation has their parent's house as unkempt, sad, and colorless. In stark contrast, Veneer's flashback shows a tidy and vibrant house. However, Velvet isn't happy in both flashbacks. Velvet is sad in her flashback of their past, and Velvet is angry in Veneer's flashback.

Velvet lashing out in the second flashback led to what I'm explaining the whole scene is about. Velvet's interpretation of the past was based on how it emotionally felt, which led to her memories looking far more depressing. Velvet's younger self, with those issues controlling her emotions, may have felt like she was alone and living in "a dark place". It was objectively false, but felt real!

I'm willing to give this scene that more thorough interpretation because it's clear manipulation if Velvet said it any other character, but when said to her own sibling, it's a very strange and blatant lie that would never have worked. Would it not have made more sense if she had instead left it at appealing to Veneer's materialism?

Emotions can be so powerful! It may even lead to a different view of the same event.