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Lucien is the weakest male we’ve read of so far and has the biggest SDE. How many females got abused on his watch? His mother, his lover, Feyre, even his mate got turned on his watch because of his friends decision to trust ianthe who ratted their location out. Who can he take care of is the question? 🥴

the victim blaming 🥴

Lucien was a child when his mother was abused but I guess that doesn't count. He was almost killed when Jesminda was killed, but again I guess that doesn't count. Lucien was also being physically abused in Feyres place with Tamlin but I guess that doesn't count, either. Lucien doesn't get to make rules for Tamlin with Ianthe but that Also doesn't count, either, I guess

but y'know what tho? Lucien is the only (main) male character in this series that isn't some form of a Male Aggressor. Cassian, Rhys, Azriel, Tamlin have all put a woman in a position to feel unsafe around them

We gonna keep that same energy with Azriel, Cassian and Rhys letting countless women get brutalized on a daily basis or?

the half baked misogyny wrapped up in fake woke feminism tells on itself in this Fandom. I'm embarrassed for yall 🥴

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Nesta trying to go through the woods, even though everyone knows how dangerous that is, to get Feyre back from Prythian is one of my favorite moments from book one, and I think it goes a long way to prove what kind of person she is deep down. She does love Feyre, and she always did.

I feel like people will be gearing up to leave me angry comments for this, but I don’t know, I just can’t bring myself to hate any of the sisters. All three of them have trauma and express it in different ways, and I think female characters should all be allowed the same complexity and differences as the male characters are. I love Feyre, but also love Nesta and Elain and can’t imagine the story without them in it.

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If you wanna feel Lucien pain, listen to “The Loneliest” by Maneksin, and think about him and Jesminda🥹🫠

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If someone ever says Lucien did not help Feyre I would love for them to read this scene.

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I don't mean this in a mean way, I'm just thinking out loud here. but my problem with e/r*el in the Az bonus chapter isn't that Az is being creepy or toxic for being horny for woman who wants to have sex with him too. like he's a grown man and he's allowed to want sex. he's even allowed to want sex that would be a tremendously bad idea so long as the other person is a willing adult. (plus you know we stan wanting to make a woman come on your face. zero problems there.) I even think he's allowed to be a bit of a brat when a third party intervenes and tells him, an adult man, that he can't have a woman come on his face. that's all pretty understandable to me.

my issue is that I just don't find the whole "I want you but I'm unworthy of your touch for I'm a bad, bad man" shtick he's got going on internally in regards to Elain particularly romantic. like that is not a relationship dynamic I don't enjoy. he straight up says that he feels like he's tainting her by touching her, and like, I'm not angry at Az for feeling that way, dude clearly has some self-esteem issues, but it isn't something I find romantic. it's not a dynamic I enjoy. sympathetic or not, it does put the other person on a pedestal they can never live up to. that's not love to me. that's a recipe for a bad relationship where Az will always have this baggage of "oh I don't deserve you" and every time they have problems because Elain is not the perfect person Az sees her as and she shouldn't have to be, it's going to eat away at his self worth because he will continually see himself as the problem. it won't be that they're two people having an argument. it will be a reflection of how Az ruined her. Elain merely accepting and loving him will not be enough to fix that he currently sees her as better than him.

also while I find it understandable that he's being a brat with Rhys, nothing he's saying particularly makes me think he's in love with Elain either. honestly the whole thing reads like he's just lonely and lashing out. when Rhys asks about Mor, I think that's supposed to be read as a clear indication that Az talking about how "no this woman is actually my mate! I know she is!" is just something Az does when he's infatuated with a woman. the fact that he's ignoring the potential of war and losing political alliances in favor of his boner doesn't strike me as the pinnacle of romance either. again he's allowed to be horny, but the fact that he didn't have an answer for what he's going to do with the fallout of getting with Elain speaks volumes to his mental state about her. that even his internal monologue was like "I hadn't gotten that far" when he spent a year planning for a snowball fight is pretty meaningful.

idk, we can argue until the cows come home about how Rhys is a huge hypocrite for telling Az to steer clear of Elain when his relationship with Feyre ended up with Tamlin siding with Hybern, but those two things are really apples and oranges. Feyre's physical and emotional health was in danger. she had been locked up somewhere she didn't want to be, and someone needed to get her out of there. Elain is not in any type of danger from Lucien. he shows up once a year for Feyre's birthday and fantasy Christmas and barely speaks to Elain while he's there because he respects the boundaries she has put up. if Elain doesn't want Lucien, she can just reject the bond between them, which Lucien would be fine with and then nobody would really have a reason for her not to be with Az, but she doesn't. and we haven't gotten her perspective so she's narratively stuck in this holding pattern between the two men where we don't know if she's going to reject Lucien and be with Az or if there's something more going on in her head in regards to why she isn't rejecting Lucien because there's plenty going on in ACOWAR that suggests she might feel more complicated emotions towards Lucien than just "ew get this man away from me."

and like none of this is really anti-Az and it's definitely not anti-Elain. I think Az gets a bad wrap because there was clearly a major change in his relationship with Morrigan between MAF and WAR that makes him look worse than the author intended him to look and that him acting like a sullen teenager with Rhys in the bonus chapter was definitely a low point that even Az can seem to tell he's out of line for. all that said, I don't think he's in love with Elain. I think he's lonely and attracted to her, and he's not really a person who can differentiate between those two things. before the scene with the necklace, he even says as much that he's so envious of what Rhys and Cassian have. furthermore, in order for Elain and Az to even remotely have a chance of working out, he would have to do a lot of work on how he sees himself and how he sees her in a way that doesn't just require Elain accepting his darkness. he would have to actively recognize her as an imperfect person, and we are just clearly just not there yet as of the bonus chapter.

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Meanwhile, her favourite son:

The Lady of Autumn’s favorite son — not only from Lucien’s goodness. But because he was the child she’d dreamed of having … with the male she undoubtedly loved.

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What if Lucien goes on a mission, and he has to go to a masquerade ball and gain intel. What if when he puts on a mask, all the pain of the past comes back to him. The suffocation, the loss of identity, the panic, all the trauma. Suddenly he’s back 55 years, when he hadn’t - couldn’t feel the sun, was trapped within himself and could do nothing to get out of it. He has a panic attack and winnows away, back to his room, and rips the mask off, clawing and roughly touching his face to let free himself from the suffocation, to remind himself that he is no longer strained. But when he looks in the mirror, he’s struck with nausea and shock once again. What if he see’s his scar, and feels repulsed and disgusted with his own face. What if he feels self conscious or embarrassed, or broken and marred, and can’t help but think that no one can probably dare to look at him. Lucien got his mask not long after he lost his eye, and so he didn’t have time to overly analyze the “damage” on his eye or how his scar looked after it healed. And it made me think, that for almost 50 years or so, he never had the chance to process this change. And then suddenly, he gets to take the mask off, and it this big realization that he’s been hit with, that this is something that will always be there now. We know Lucien has this casual grace and confidence, but I can’t help but imagine what he truly feels. 

I don’t know why I do this to myself, but yea. Here ya go.

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Lucien Vanserra deserves to be happy.

Gwyn Berdara deserves to be happy.

It honestly frustrates me how much the two of them are hated on due to the ship wars.

They have done nothing wrong.

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I hate how the acotar fandom constantly put the women against each other. Especially the Archeron’s. Like just stfu and stop being such petty bitches and just appreciate the women in the series.

They’re all dealing with their own shit and deserve some respect and praise for how far they’ve all come. And we see through their actions and how they communicate with others that they’re still heavily dealing with their trauma. Yes, even Amren. None is better than the other. They’ve all done questionable/controversial stuff so there’s literally no point putting them against each other. No one is winning. And I swear to god shut up with the goddamn internalised misogyny at your grown ass age.

And if you can’t do any of that then just leave the fandom. It’s not that difficult!!!

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My hand commissions with @lib-arts

Collaborators: @gwynethvalkyrie (gwynriel art) and @/starswithsparks on ig(nessian art)

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Preach. They’re friendship was just so refreshing and meaningful, reading about it made me so happy🥹

Nesta's, Emerie's and Gwyn's relationship is the best thing to ever happen in acotar

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Elucien & Tangled

Elain - Rapunzal

Like do I even have to explain? The want for adventure and exploring just screams Elain. She wants to travel to the continent and see the world, and yet she’s held back. That yearning for travel I think will play a part in Elains book because I think she’ll leave the NC and find herself and see the world like she wanted!

Lucien - Eugine Fitzherburt

Guys come on, WE KNOW THIS. Sarcastic, funny, charming, loves exploring, preferred books, always on the run, and hot? It’s Lucien all right. Book 1 Lucien matches his vibe perfectly, and once he an Elain get comfortable, his sass is gonna come back and he’s gonna pull a Eugine for sure. I feel like he’d bring Elain out of her shell and encourage her.

^^ Elain finally leaves the NC and Lucien is just waiting for her to finish, gawking at everything but we know that he actually loves seeing her like this and it just feel so new to Lucien.

Luciens Brothers - Stabbington Brothers

They’re ginger and a pain in the ass so yes they shall be them. Shitting on Lucien for no reason but Lucien is obviously smarter and better in every way so it all works out in the end cuz he manages to out wit the dummies. (Not including Eris)

The Night Court - The Tower

Before anyone gets mad, I am making this assumption based off of what was written in ACOSF. I think like Rapunzal, Elain will continue to try an convince herself that this is her place, but then at some point she may feel stifled and will wanna pursue her adventurous side. Like at some point, all those bottled up feeling may explode and she’ll just want to leave. Also pls do not be mad at me, I just like tangled and like these cool comparisons.

Eris - Maximus

Lowkey iffy with Lucien but support him nonetheless. Annnnd when the time comes, tease him about Elain. 

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This brought me back to life.

GWYNRIEL X LITTLE MERMAID pt 2

I miss them and can’t wait for the day we’ll get to read their book 💙🦇👩🏻‍🦰 for now, enjoy another little mermaid parallel between gwynriel 🥹 prints and stickers are available on redbubble! Link below ;)

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SJM pissed me off because how Cassian treated Lucien made him look weak, or how Az spoke of him in the bonus chapter? And Lucien being right upstairs as Elain’s arousal for Az’s drifts upward to where Az can smell it? It almost makes me want Lucien with Vassa…the way that situation in the bonus chapter made Lucien look will always be rough..

They were thirsting for eachother while he was upstairs asleep. I’m surprised more Elucien stan’s aren’t offended by Elain’s lack of consideration for Lucien to be honest 👀

Hello Anon!

I sort of have mixed opinions about this. I think through out the whole series, Lucien has always been undermined and underestimated by a lot of people. It took me a while to realize that SJM will most likely put the IC members above all else, so it wasn't surprising to me when Lucien is talked about like that. In terms of Cassian, I know he has mixed feelings on Lucien because of his association with Tamlin, and of course Cassian is older than Lucien, so there was already gonna be some animosity towards Lucien, even though I didn't see the need for it lol. I think its a combination of SJM putting the IC above all else and Lucien's connection to Tamlin. The IC has this picture in their head that Lucien was terrible to Feyre and that he did not try to help her in any way. Also I think because Lucien is someone who thinks with his head, and opts for words over violence, he's made out to be weak because he's not like Rhys, Cassian, or Azriel.

Azriels beef with Lucien was just funny to me, but understandable. Azriel is obviously hurt. I'm not gonna go into detail about his feelings towards Elain and how they don't scream endgame to me, but his animosity towards Lucien is a product of all that. The way he said he could defeat Lucien with little effort and that he's not good enough bothered me too, but I understood where it was coming from. Azriel is close to hitting rock bottom, and I think his insecurities are starting to come out stronger, and I think his negativity towards Lucien stems from him thinking that he just has to be with Elain, that that is the only possible solution. I think he try’s to justify his reasoning by negating Lucien.

I actually don't think the bonus chapter made Lucien look bad in any way. Of course I was bothered by the way they were talking about him (disclaimer: I like all the characters), but I don't think it hindered Lucien's character in any way. He is still the patient, respectful, and smart male he's always been. I know a lot of people feel bad for Lucien because of that scene, but honestly we really don't know what he's thinking right now. He has his own stuff to deal with, both political and personal, and I know a lot of people pity him, but I don't, at least not for that reason. I feel for him because Elain is probably a reminder for him of what he lost, as Lucien is to Elain. Again, I'm not gonna go on a tangent about this because it would be terribly long lol. Vassa and Lucien never really occured to me, I've always been on board with Elucien lol, but I understand where you're coming from for sure!

Now I personally wasn't exactly offended by Elain's lack of consideration. Neither of them owe each other anything. Of course I think Elain could just tell him to leave, but I also understand her not wanting do anything right now. She will definitely have to address this soon, because its not only her that's impacted by this mate bond, and she's not the only one that's not a fan of it, as we know of Lucien's hesitancy as well. Honestly I think Lucien might be the first one to finally say something like "I didn't want this either, so reject the bond already and let's be done with it", but alas thats a post for another time lol. I think that moment between was Azriel and Elain was necessary for both of them, for their individual stories and growth, because I hope they realize that its not what's best for them. Also the angst it'll serve for Elucien will be top tier 🥴I do think Lucien knows about it, but did not act on it, but I guess we'll see what happens.

Lucien is such an important character to me, and it is irritating to see the way he gets treated, but I'm sure his comeback is coming!

Thank you for the ask Anon, it was nice talking about this, and sorry for going off on a tangent lol! <3

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I was having a good day till I saw this an also remembered she hasn’t seen Lucien in who knows how long. She saw his eye get ripped out and saw him also getting crushed to death. She hasn’t gotten her sun. Now my day sucks.

I was having a good day until I remembered it’s been 7 years since the first book and LoA is still not free

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Friendly reminder:

Lucien had no reason to trust one single soul in the Night Court, let alone its High Lord.

@rbhatesmangos I needed to share your comment, hope that’s alright haha

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I love elucien. That will always be true. But I don’t like how people make Lucien out to be some desperate fool constantly pining and waiting for Elain to love him. It just minimizes his great character. He’s got a shit ton of other stuff to worry about, and although I love them both and would love to see them together, I just find it odd how Lucien is described as this sad desperate loser whose only waiting for Elain. They’ve both got their own aspirations, and I hope a romance between them comes into play, but not at the expense of reducing the characters to just that.